00:00Isasalang na sa mismong pagdinig sa susunod na linggo ang dalawang impeachment complaint laban kay Vice President Sara Duterte.
00:06Ang kampo naman ni Vice President Duterte muling igniit na may depekto ang mga reklamo at wala umunong basihan ang
00:13mga paratang.
00:14Saksi si Tina Pangaliban Perez.
00:20Uusad na sa hearing proper ang ikatlo at ikaapat na impeachment complaints laban kay Vice President Sara Duterte kasunod ng
00:28pagpapasya ng House Justice Committee kanina.
00:31The chair declares the third impeachment complaint, the fourth impeachment complaint is declared sufficient in grounds.
00:42May nagtangkang kumontra.
00:43We should have determined the sufficiency in ground before we voted for sufficiency in form and substance.
00:49We need to provide him a copy of the rules.
00:53Again, the proceeding before the Justice Committee, Honorable Mark Coleta, is summarized into five.
01:00And you can confirm this from the rules of impeachment adopted by the 20th Congress.
01:05One is form.
01:06Two is substance.
01:08Three is ground.
01:10Fourth is hearing proper.
01:11And fifth is the determination of probable cause.
01:15After that, we go to the plenary.
01:18Basahin po natin yung rules para hindi po tayo nalilito.
01:23At nang sa ganun po ay maiwasan po natin yung mga tanong na maliwanag naman po sa ating rules.
01:35Isinusulong na grounds o basehan ng dalawang reklamo ang culpable violation of the Constitution, betrayal of public trust, graft and
01:44corruption, bribery, and other high crimes.
01:47Kabilang sa mga alegasyon ang umano'y maling paggamit ng bise ng kanyang confidential funds, umano'y di maipaliwanag na
01:55yaman, at umano'y pagbabanta sa buhay ng Pangulo.
01:58Sa Consolidated Verified Answer at Kotalam ni Duterte, pinulaan niya ang kumite saan niya'y double standard nito sa pagtalakay
02:08ng impeachment complaints laban sa kanya at kay Pangulong Bongbong Marcos.
02:12Hindi ito gaano'ng tinalakay ng kumite dahil hindi naman daw isa-isang sinagot ang mga alegasyon.
02:18It alleges violation of due process and failure to state ultimate facts.
02:24And these are matters which should not be addressed to the Justice Committee.
02:28This should be addressed to the Supreme Court via a petition.
02:32I maintain the position that the committee observed, the necessary requirement of due process.
02:40As a matter of fact, the filing of answer is part of due process.
02:44Nakatakda sa March 25 ang unang araw ng hearing proper.
02:49Ayon kay Luis Tro, bibigyan ng notice si Duterte at ang mga complainant para humarap sa kumite.
02:55So, this will be a minute trial, should I say, no?
02:59Because the full-blown trial will happen in the Senate.
03:02What is important is to give ample opportunity to the complainant to present their witness and evidence per ground.
03:14Nasa bisi na raw kung dadalo siya sa pagdini.
03:17This is her prerogative.
03:19Her presence during the hearing proper and even her presentation of evidence is actually part of her right to due
03:31process.
03:32Hindi pa tinalakay ng kumite ang mga mosyo ni Akbayan Partylist Representative Chell Jokno para kunin ang House Committee on
03:39Justice ang protective custody sa nagpakilalang dating aid ni VP Duterte na si Ramil Madriaga at sa pagsabina sa mga
03:48financial records na konektado sa MISI.
03:51Tatalakayin daw ito sa hearing proper.
03:53Ang abogado ni Duterte muling iginiit na may malalim na depekto ang mga reklamo laban sa pangalawang pangulo at wala
04:02umanong matitibay na basehan ang mga parata.
04:04Our position remains unchanged. The complaints for us really suffer from a fundamental defect because they are based on conclusions,
04:13speculations, narratives that are not anchored on the ultimate facts na sinasabi na rin natin sa answer namin.
04:20Ipinaliwanag din ni POA kung bakit hindi detalyado ang isinumite nilang sagot.
04:25I think we have to remind the public na sa ating legal system, it is not up to the defense
04:31to prove the case of the complainants. It is the complainants that have the burden to prove their allegations.
04:40Sa tingin ng political analyst na si Atty. Paulo Tamase, posibleng strategiya ang matipid na tugon ni Duterte.
04:48I think the advantage is that it keeps her cards close to her chest. Mahihirapan or mag-add ng complication
04:57yun on the part of the prosecution na hindi nila alam kung mayroong possible na ebidensya.
05:02Si DT Sara to defend herself, hindi nila mapaghahandaan there for as much as they would probably want to yung
05:10kaso.
05:11Well, talaga naman ang Senate trial din naman talaga ang magiging pagsusuri nito o pag-delitis nitong kaso na ito.
05:18But as to strategy or not, even if it were strategy, of course, it's not something for me to disclose.
05:24Pero kung strategiya man daw, nagbabala si Tamase sa posibleng panganib ng ganitong hakbang.
05:30Disadvantage nga is binibigan din ng fuel card paano yung perception na hindi ginagalang ng Vice President ng proseso or
05:39hindi siniseryoso itong proseso na hinahanap sa anong pananagutan sa kanya.
05:45Pagdating sa hearing proper ng Kamara, ayon kay POA, walang obligasyong dumalo ang bise pero handa raw sila.
05:52This is not something we did not expect naman. So, meaning this was quite expected. And we are ready to
05:59proceed.
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