00:00Conflict and therefore growth would have been, I mean, and the personalities couldn't be further apart.
00:05You have the enigmatic Chloe Fraser, hustler, wheeling dealing, always backing out when it gets too tough.
00:12The pragmatic, militant leader Nadine Ross, it was perfect.
00:16Yeah, I mean, when I first read that I was like, oh wait a minute, Chloe is like impulsive and
00:22Nadine is still like calm and collected.
00:24And I was like, and we're going to talk about teamwork and they're going to solve this adventure together?
00:29Are we sure that's going to work out?
00:31Yeah, that's it. That's exactly the question.
00:33Yeah.
00:34Right, right. So another thing we saw in that trailer is you got revealed who the villain is in the
00:38game.
00:38And it's somebody that a lot of people might not know about.
00:41I think diehard Entreted fans might know who this is. Could you explain who that is though?
00:44The villain?
00:45The villain.
00:46Well, the villain is Asav. Asav is this insurgent leader who is basically, you know, creating turmoil in India right
00:54now.
00:54And he also has entitlement to these lands. At least he thinks he does.
00:59He has, there's two factions of the old empire, the old kings and the new king, which was a more
01:05progressive king.
01:06And Usman, who plays the character Asav, he's an amazing actor, did a really good job of bringing Asav to
01:14life, which is he believes in the old king.
01:16He believes in the purification of this establishment and wanting to gain back these lands for himself.
01:23Right, right. He's zealous, man. I swear. They just want everything to be their way.
01:28Right.
01:29All right. So, and that eventually forces Chloe and Nadine to join forces, if I'm not mistaken, right?
01:35Yeah, they're after the Tusk of Ganesh, which is, you know, we always base our Uncharted on some seed of,
01:43you know, history.
01:44So, the Hoysal Empire, which is a real thing. And we take our, we Uncharted-ify, you know, ruins and
01:52bring a little, you know, some of the, there's like such a rich cultural history in India.
01:57And we blow it up to, you know, to 11, you know, these giant statues of Ganesh that you see
02:05in the trailer.
02:05And so, the setting just is, everything Uncharted is there. And we have, you know, the, the Jeep is back.
02:15Chloe's the best driver in the business.
02:16So, she's there and we're pushing on exploration a little more in, in this game, kind of evolving it from
02:23the past games and just providing more player choice throughout.
02:28Nice.
02:28Yeah.
02:29Other than the statues of Ganesh, are you guys going to get into any Hindu mythology, given like the vastness
02:33of that situation?
02:35Well, these are archeological sites. I have to say this, right? Because that's true. We, we, these are ruins of
02:41the great Hosala Empire, right?
02:44And we did a lot of research for, to ensure that we, you know, respect the, you know, the religion.
02:50There are thousands of people, hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions,
02:53that still practice Hinduism avidly daily. So, we wanted to approach this thing with respect, reverence, but at the same
03:02time in context of a game.
03:04So, a lot of these archeological sites are based on the Hosala people and their empire.
03:09And the story of the Tusk of the Ganesh and how he lost his text, lost his tusk, which they
03:14talk about in the trailer, that kind of thread, that is like from a real text in Hinduism.
03:19So, there's like, it's, we've taken it and made it as the base of our, of our story.
03:24Right. I really like how you guys always dig into the intricate history of these settings and of these cultures
03:29before you implement them into the games.
03:31It's always astounding to me. So, I want to talk a little bit about the fact that this is the
03:35first Uncharted expansion, standalone expansion in history.
03:39You guys have never really done anything like this. What led you to this point right here?
03:43Well, we explored many storylines. After we finished the Nathan Drake story, we were done with Nathan Drake.
03:50We were done. We were done. We wrapped it up.
03:52Broke her heart.
03:53Broke her heart.
03:54My boyfriend's gone. It's fine. No, I'm very excited for this one.
03:58Yeah. Well, we, we explored many different, cause we have such a vast cast to pull from.
04:04We went down a few different storylines. We went through the Sullivan storyline. Even Cutter came back up.
04:10Yeah.
04:11And we were messing around.
04:12We were going to talk about that.
04:13We want to talk more about Cutter before we go. We're going to.
04:16But, you know, the, the, the Chloe story just kept jumping back out at us. It was, you know, she's
04:22such a self-preservationist. She's, you know, always like bailing out at the last minute.
04:27Right.
04:27You know, she was just an intriguing character.
04:29Exactly.
04:30Yeah.
04:30Survivor. And we wanted to see how, you know, just putting her up with someone like Nadine, if Chloe was
04:37the showrunner, if this was her job, how would she fare?
04:40What would she stand to lose now that she has everything to lose?
04:43Right.
04:44Would she go all the distance? Would she complete the task?
04:47So these were the questions we started with that led to.
04:50Right.
04:50You know, that's the one similarity I can see between the both of them is they're both kind of survivors.
04:54I kind of got that vibe from Nadine in Uncharted 4, the way she was.
04:57You can tell she really didn't like Wraith, but she was working with them because it was for her betterment,
05:02you know?
05:02Of course.
05:02And it was kind of the same thing with Chloe and Drake in Uncharted 2, so I really liked that.
05:06All right.
05:07So, you know, I'm a big multiplayer fan.
05:11Kurt, you know this.
05:13You know this more than anybody.
05:15I love the Uncharted multiplayer.
05:16Will there be any tie-ins of any sort from the game?
05:19Yeah.
05:20So Lost Legacy comes with the entire multiplayer suite of Uncharted, kind of unifying the multiplayer.
05:26So both Uncharted 4 and Lost Legacy have the same multiplayer.
05:28So you get everything with all the DLCs released, all the survival mode, the co-op, and then, yeah.
05:35So all the DLC that we've done, and then we're going to have some Lost Legacy content in the future
05:40that we'll be talking about soon.
05:42That is so great.
05:44How was it kind of taking this different path as far as narrative goes?
05:49You know, you had this wisecracking, very clever, witty Nathan Drake, and now you have like a completely different personality
05:55in the driver's seat.
05:56How was it kind of changing gears on that?
05:58I mean, we built the game around Chloe.
06:01So, you know, the tone of the game reflects her state of mind and where she goes, the arc that
06:07we're going to be pushing.
06:08It's a little grounded, a little more grounded, maybe even darker at times, but it's still fun, still has that
06:15sense of wonder and adventure.
06:16Chloe, in the end, is a fun character.
06:18Yes, right.
06:19That's why we like her.
06:20Yes.
06:20So she fits the Uncharted, you know, the main character being a fun character is an Uncharted thing.
06:27So it fits right in.
06:28Now, I got to ask, since Chloe is there, does that mean there's going to be a lot more driving
06:31in this one?
06:32Because I got to say, in Uncharted 4, I didn't do so well with those driving scenes.
06:36We, uh, there's driving.
06:38There's more driving.
06:40That was good.
06:41It's driving.
06:42You really don't like driving sequences.
06:43I do not like driving sequences.
06:45You guys are trolling Meredith.
06:47There's, uh, there's parts.
06:49Yeah.
06:50We're trying to provide a lot of different options to the player.
06:52So, yeah, there's parts where you drive, but there's also, you know, a lot of encounters you can engage or
06:58not engage with.
06:59We have a lot more stealth options and silence weapons and the lockpicking is a...
07:03Silence weapons.
07:04That's kind of new, right?
07:05Yeah.
07:06So, yeah, you can lockpick.
07:08Lockpicking is new as well.
07:09Nice.
07:09Open a crate.
07:10Yeah.
07:10It's literally the sum of all our Uncharted.
07:13We're building on the foundations that we have and known all throughout Uncharted.
07:17We have big set pieces.
07:19We climb and traverse, like, enormous statues and ruins of ancient civilization.
07:24So, the sense of wonder is there.
07:26We also went back to the scale factor that people loved of the old Uncharted as well.
07:30Right.
07:31There's a lot of puzzles, too.
07:32Gotta have puzzles.
07:33Gotta have puzzles.
07:34Gotta have those.
07:35Alright, I got one more quick question.
07:36Cause at the end of Uncharted 4, I was asking myself, uh, where's Chloe at?
07:40And now she's here.
07:41So now my question is, where's Charlie?
07:44Where's Cutter?
07:45Charlie.
07:45Yes.
07:45Charlie Cutter.
07:46Where's Charlie Cutter?
07:47I love Charlie Cutter.
07:48Are you gonna make maybe a little appearance?
07:49I mean, I know they have a little something going into Uncharted 3, so...
07:54Any chance?
07:54All of the conspiracy theories right over here.
07:56I would say that this story is about Nadine and Chloe.
07:59Okay.
07:59Alright.
08:00But you never know, right?
08:01In another life.
08:02Maybe, yes.
08:03Well, I'm glad you guys at least mentioned him in Uncharted 4.
08:05That felt good.
08:05That felt good.
08:06Well, anyways, thank you very much, Sean and Kurt, for your time.
08:09And Meredith, for joining us.
08:10Absolutely.
08:11Thank you.
08:11Understandable.
08:12We're gonna go ahead
08:12Now we get чи-
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