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Episode 8: War in Iran
Latin America and China discuss world effects of U.S. and Israel's decision to attack Iran, and repercussions as the events did not go as planned
Latin America and China discuss world effects of U.S. and Israel's decision to attack Iran, and repercussions as the events did not go as planned
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00:05one more episode of overlap this conversation from across the world such a busy week this week we
00:13have been following the violent escalation in the middle east that was unleashed by the unprovoked
00:19attacks of the united states and israel on iran and the retaliatory attacks in the region in this
00:27case we are joined by professor genji from the food and university to go deep into this topic
00:33understand its roots and consequences and what we are looking at in this week and in the coming weeks
00:40so professor thank you so much for joining us here in overlap once again and first i wanted to ask
00:46you
00:47how do we understand how do we characterize these attacks that were unleashed by the u.s and israel
00:54on iran i think that the attack is not that surprising on one aspect because the united states
01:03has prepared it for quite a long time they gathered military assets in the region for months and it
01:12seemed that they decided they want to use the military force to solve this problem but on the
01:19other side this action is quite different if we're comparing with the so-called u.s military intervention
01:27warfare since the end of the cold war you will find this time frankly speaking the united states is not
01:37prepared enough for the full operation according to the latest news development we can make several
01:46conclusions the first israel side provide some information to trump and quite successfully persuade trump
01:56they can have a quick winning solution in iran which means if they can launch a head cut operation which
02:06means a surprising attack launch a very precise even a kind of political assassinations to the top leaders of
02:15iran they can defunction of the whole command and military structures of iran and then the possible
02:23development is those either the pro-american petitions elites inside iran government will have the power
02:32all those peoples they believe pressed by the regime can go to the street and peacefully quickly take over the
02:42the regime and in short they believe they can launch a kind of color revolution by using military force to
02:51cut off
02:52those political elites and the pressing institution inside iran and then leading them a very quick winning this
03:00solution is very charming to president trump because he need these winning scenarios to get more or to recover or
03:11regain his
03:12political support inside the united states uh in this year because he have to win the very important
03:19midterm elections of the congress and the second it seemed that from u.s side they did not have a
03:30very clear
03:30understanding or very clear strategic plan how to solve these iran solutions this is the main result of trump's
03:41administration's car power construction inside which trump take the top and only positions can make the final decision
03:53no one has enough capacities to persuade him to change his mind to accept a more moderate long-term cautious
04:03plan
04:04decision to take military action it seems that the quick capture of president maduro in venezuela providing trump more confidence
04:14to believe that his decision is correct and he can duplicate his winning in iran so that he make that
04:23decision
04:24but it's quite clear he did not prepared enough that iran may take a quite different reaction toward the attack
04:36and he did not prepared enough what should be the next step if iran did not surrender in few days
04:45if what will happen
04:47how to solve it if the conflict lasting longer than weeks or even lasting longer than months i don't know
04:55he is prepared enough or not i don't even know whether the u.s military ammunition supply chain has been
05:02prepared enough for the long time lasting conflict in the middle east it will test and affect the future
05:11development and the third but not the least it seemed it's quite interesting to note this time
05:20iran's reaction toward attack is more quicker and with higher capacities and it seemed iran tried to
05:32demonstrate its military force not only to united states and israel these two countries but to the whole
05:40regions then i still need more information to find out why iran will do such things but it's quite
05:49clearly the region maybe not only united states but also israel did not prepare that iran will have such
06:00kind of reactions it raised a very tough questions but it's quite clear israel will continue or insist
06:10it's tough military strategies which the main characteristic is political assassinations by
06:19military force it already send a very clear signal it will kill every target they want to kill every top
06:27leaders if still insist a hawkish attitude toward israel did not surrender or did not take a pro-israel or
06:37pro-american
06:39policies will become the target of the idf and it insists the possibility maybe
06:47this conflict between iran israel and the united states will become long time middle or
06:55high level military conflict in the region and make the whole geopolitical situations in the region more complex
07:05and the way that in which in 2026 donald trump seems to be pushing this international red lines trying to
07:18see how far he will go without backlash and how many wins so to say he can earn in this
07:26way in this
07:27election year i wanted to ask you because you were talking about it being clear that there was not a
07:35good
07:35preparation for the case that iran responded as it did with the readiness and the quick reaction
07:43and a possible full escalation that we are seeing right now for the audience that is following this
07:50event and with so much information and so many things being said what are the things that you would point
07:57out that show us this thing that the fact that they maybe weren't ready for such a reaction
08:04first president trump already called for conference in white house ask the military industry companies
08:13to go there and ask them whether they can speed up the production of emanations which is necessary
08:21for their use for the continuity of the military operations in the middle east regions these are very
08:29clear signals very important signals and the second you'll find that in last two days secretary of state
08:38mark rubio and the other guys make intelligence briefing to the group inside the congress and every congressman
08:48especially the congressman from the democratic parties when they hear after the meeting here when they finish
08:55the briefing they providing nearly the same information to the news press they say that the united states did not
09:04have a very clear intention why it will launch this attack toward iran what is the real target what is
09:14the real
09:14threat very clear and the existed threat which need to be immediately re take action to deal with that
09:23the united states and the united states and the united states will take the joint action with israel
09:42is first united states cannot persuade israel to cancel the attack to the top leaders of iran and the second
09:49united states believe such kind of attack definitely will trigger the retaliation from iran side so
09:56united states have to take actions with israel to protect israel from the possible iran's military
10:04retaliations okay come on guys that's a total mess and if you heard the the press conference uh produced by
10:12the
10:12the department of the department of war you'll find the secretary hexes he can tell nothing about the detail plan
10:19what
10:19he will do next in that region he even said that that's classic information and it's not necessary to tell
10:26you all the
10:27details what i will do next that's not the united states if you read all those military histories when united's
10:35launch a military
10:36military intervention in the post cold war areas for example when go to the war of kosovo the clinton administration
10:42will tell you they have a very clear target why they launch these bombing actions to form more youngest
10:48yungoslavia republics and what kind of military actions will they do what kind of targets they
10:55already bombed they were providing you a very regulated daily daily based press conference you tell
11:02you the information and you can find out a very clear step-by-step actions and the second case is
11:10true war with iraq and the first 1990s posting gulf wars you will find that before the launch of that
11:17military actions pregnant senior bush at that time preparing all the necessary legal requirements
11:26to got the power to legally launch the military intervention not only the legal
11:32supporting from the domestic congress process but also senior bush launched a very famous so-called
11:39telephone diplomacy which means he sit in his office and call every single top leaders of the major
11:48countries in the world he know and to got their understanding and agreement to launch these military
11:54actions let's prepare and they have a very clear very precisely designed plan where to start the
12:02actions and what the most important part is they have a very clear stopping point it means that when
12:10they destroy and push out all the militaries of iraq in the kovit which means they liberalize kovit they just
12:17stop they stop at the borders between kovit and iraq and that set a very clearing target till now we
12:26don't know
12:26what's what's the real target of united states in iraq because trump named too many things like
12:33denuclearization denuclearization demilitarization or even the regime change but we all know that
12:41in the country if you're thinking about the territory size and the population of iran nearly mission
12:49impossible only used the air force to launch a successful so-called regime change inside iran
12:58the latest development they say that there's information say that the cia is finding out whether
13:06they can depend on the kurd's revelations to launch the landing attack by the supporting of united states
13:12and israel on the air force so that he they wish this landing attack can help them to overthrow
13:19iran's regime frankly speaking the enemy such kind of actions should be finished before israel and
13:27united launch this airstrike rather than after that such kind of action just like that the plan a is
13:35failed we need to have a plan b and plan c but we did not have a prepared plan b
13:41or plan c we need to
13:42find out a quick solution as soon as possible but in a rush all of these points are so key
13:51to
13:51illustrate the way that we are seeing this unfold that many of these are not coming to the media the
13:57way that these events seem to have been prepared or not prepared by the united states and it continues to
14:05characterize these different actions that the united states administration has decided to take on an
14:11year that is key for its continuity and power in the u.s as well but you were saying professor
14:16continue
14:18yeah i think also you will find united states they're including israel and the united states
14:25they both underestimate the possible retaliations from iran's side and
14:33uh you will find that they did not prepare that iran will take such a quick and large scale
14:41the retaliations to all the u.s military base and to all the israel's targets and according to the
14:52information released by president trump it seemed that he believed
14:56um they have an simulations of these scenarios and he preferred he believed what will happen is when they
15:08kill the top leaders of the irans the iran will launch a very small scale and the soft retaliations to
15:18express their unsatisfaction and then very quickly they will have a more softer leaders to guard that
15:28positions and these soft leaders will agree more uh strict strict requirements raised by israel and the
15:38united states accept everything united wants so that the president will got his second winning in the
15:46geopolitical stage and it also seemed the president trump never ever prepared that iran will launch this
15:54long time large scale countering back he did not how to he cannot understand it just like the news report
16:02trump cannot understand why iran did not surrender when they see these two air korea battle groups
16:08had gathered in front of his homes it's a little bit ridiculous but it's it's very trump
16:16because he controlled the final decision powers and no one can position no one can persuade him
16:23on how tough the situation is and he never allowed those people to tell the unhappy truth
16:31just like the director of national intelligence miss jabat when the united states finished the long-range
16:40air bombing of air bombing of nuclear institutions she said that according to the real intelligence
16:46seem this airstrike did not really destroy iran's nuclear nuclear capacities just because this one
16:54sentence has been margin she has been marginalized she has been kicked out of the decision inside the
17:01cycles of the decision making process of trump's administrations so it means trump cannot
17:07and go to the real situation because if the real situation did not afford fulfill his fiction scenarios
17:16which can got him the possibility duplicate the winning very quick winning in venezuela so i think that's
17:23it's leading to a little bit of a little bit of a mess and nowadays they open the pandora box
17:30just like where the iran's military or foreign affairs already said no one can de facto
17:37control iran's military retaliation actions unless they have a new top leader but another thing is very
17:46interesting it seems that israel has a more bigger plan according to my understanding maybe israel have a
17:55quite a different real target of purpose on these iran issues to united states
18:02uh the best result should be a soft pro-american leaders control iran power and then iran become a very
18:15stable pro-unite states regional actors so that united states can have a more friendly geopolitical
18:27regional orders and then after realizing that plan united states can withdraw its forces from the middle
18:36east and transfer it to a more important sub-region but to israel it seems that the real purpose of
18:45israel is want to transfer iran into a big syria which means they try to make iran break into pieces
18:55and all those small pieces and all those small pieces they can they should fighting against each other
18:58and it will providing israel an opportunity to realize the so-called big israel plan in that region
19:08because if iran has been collapsed nearly no one can stop israel to take such kind of tough military actions
19:16but here there's a problem if iran transfer into a quite fragmented region and become the new source
19:30of internal military conflict of the region it will make impossible for united states to withdraw to
19:39defectively really withdraw the military force out of the region it will force the united states to
19:45investment more military assessment to that region so that to avoid any potential over film of this
19:55instability and the uncertainties to other critical uh u.s partners in that region including
20:03saudi arabia and other countries because the turmoids or the unstable of the whole middle east did not
20:11fit for the long-term interest of united states and especially did not uh good for the u.s european
20:19strategic partners and so on so i don't know uh how long and israel and united can keep their corporations
20:28to take actions to take actions on that region uh because uh there has the possibility if the military uh
20:39conflict lasts longer it will be more easy to get more casualties of united states troops in that region
20:49and this problem will be very sensitive in the domestic politics of united states and trump is quite
20:57sensitive on that things that's his final goals everything every scores he want to winning in the foreign affairs
21:07to serve it his target to finally got to win in the middle term elections of congress this year
21:14and the middle term election of congress already begin and today there's but still we have several months to
21:23go but trump needed the time to harvest the winning and transfer the geopolitical winning into a domestic winning
21:32so that raised one of the most important point of uncertainty um till now trump seem like those people's
21:43those gambling people's those gambling people's maybe after the first small lose uh
21:52he did not win the first time maybe he will leverage the gambles to investment more military assets
22:00and to got the win he want but here uh raise very high uncertainties and the risk for the potential
22:09development of the situation
22:11and there's definitely a very high risk in that regard and he's betting a lot on these international operations
22:19i was thinking from what you were saying this pattern of expecting the united states expecting a
22:26quote-unquote like quick win that will give him the support he needs inside the united states at a very
22:34unstable
22:35moment inside the united states but we are seeing in different scenarios for example in venezuela they
22:43didn't they did kidnap the president but they didn't get the public uprising and the government
22:51change that they were also sort of expecting they now have a long process of negotiation with the government
22:58that continues to push for its own interest in the framework of a bolivarian government that continues to work
23:07in iran we are seeing in the whole middle east on violent escalation that you were just mentioning could
23:15drug on for way more than they were expecting in the last interventions and the last speeches by
23:23marco rubio by donald trump himself they they are now talking about well this may last a few weeks they
23:30may last more than four weeks they are maybe preparing the scenario for um open and longer confrontation
23:38than they had expected how does that coincide and how does that work with uh an administration
23:48that had first sought and and told its voters its mega voters and trump supporters that they would not
23:57be involved in this long-term escalations abroad and that was part of the support they were getting the
24:06idea that they were withdrawing from different sites in the world and that all those funds for example would
24:14be going to internal objects and internal conflicts in the united states the idea of america first also
24:22had that idea behind and even part of the conservatives that were supporting trump and even within the mega
24:30movement itself that was an important part of the international strategy now we've seen that the internal
24:37conflicts were growing with the migration enforcement and the entire social backlash that that was getting
24:46and ice deployment inside the united states states and it seems that the administration was betting on this
24:53large-scale international operations to win back some of that support but if they drag on maybe they could have
25:02the opposite effect how do you think that this is playing out if as you were saying the situation in
25:10the middle east
25:11does not go as donald trump intended i think it's a very important crossroads there's already the voice raised
25:22from the maga in represented by tucker carson he make a very clear tough criticisms of trump's policy
25:32towards iran and i believe he betrayed the whole maga movement because on the very beginning the whole
25:38maga movement one of the critical point of view is united should not waste those resources especially
25:45they should not waste military resources for jewish peoples in the middle east because this is necessary
25:53it's not u.s business it's not american business and the united states should serve for the american people
25:59take a real american first rather than israel first the second i think the critical element is
26:07casualty the real casualty till now uh because those maga peoples uh it's a very special uh peoples
26:17they prefer a kind of i name it uh visual animals which i means they they they need a kind
26:27of visuals
26:29evidence evidence evidence they can see they can understand and till now uh they still did not launch
26:39a real large scale against or opposing uh trump's actions to uh trump attack toward iran is trump is winning
26:51he still is winning because he take harmony he killed these top leaders a quite success attack
26:59to a country like iran and quite success to kill the top leaders that's winning but the maga peoples they
27:09prefer wins even though it's not uh uh actions they would like but winning they would feel it's quite good
27:18anyway maybe it's not good but anyway trump is winning that means america is winning and then we give him
27:25more time
27:26to find out whether he can defectively win the whole operations the whole conflict but
27:36those patients are quite limited maybe several months or maybe several weeks or even several days
27:43just like what happened in uh somalia in clinton's administrations the black hawk down if you take an
27:53actions and then you launch large-scale casualties for example if a battleship of united states navis has been
28:03destroyed or be hit by iran's blitzed anti-insurface missiles and then those ships has been thinking
28:13or got fired and when they got that videos it will trigger definitely a large scale uh against or opposing
28:24to
28:24trump's uh trump's uh action there the first and the second uh if they feel tired which means if that
28:32operation lasting for longer than months or several months and there's no signals they can stop it quickly
28:42and then maca people were lost patients and then the unpatients uh unsatisfied emotion will be transferred
28:51to a very strong and tough opposing to trump in the middle-term elections now going out into the
29:00international scene and how this whole situation is impacting the world scene as a whole the countries
29:07such as china that were pushing for the building of a multi-polar world higher cooperation between
29:15different nations and the respect of international law also the creation of even new mechanisms to enforce
29:23this international based rules so in this context the united states is pushing and enforcing a whole
29:32completely different way of acting in the international scene two major partners of china now have a
29:41kidnapped president and an assassinated leader we're talking about venezuela and iran how do you think
29:49china is looking at the situation in terms of the impact that it's having in the international rules-based
29:58world and is it going to take higher action in terms of trying to re-stabilize what governments can
30:09and can't do in this global scene the foreign minister wang yi or dialogue with the minister of foreign affairs
30:16of russia mr rafov and the one is then take a very clear attitude and china's attitude is very clear
30:25this is
30:25a bad thing first the war is bad this military conflict will do damage to the whole world and raise
30:36risk and uncertainties to the whole world economic systems and which make damage no one can get real
30:44benefits from such kind of process and so china are calling both sides to stop the military actions to launch
30:53uh stop their actions to launch the ceasefires go back to the track to launch negotiation to solve the
31:00problem the first and the second china take a very clear attitude the military attack and the kill of top
31:10leaders uh violate every single war world orders every single principles of international laws we cannot
31:21accept it it's a very clear political attitude and to the action i think china take a responsible cautious
31:31actions china did not want to take the actions which beyond its responsibilities or beyond the actions
31:40and also china did not has interest to duplicate u.s milit action patterns which means we just use military
31:51military force at will uh did not have a serious considerations from china's side uh the china's military force
32:00is to ensure the peaceful environment uh we need to have our opportunity and we can continue our
32:10development the and then to ensure that this development can providing better lives to our peoples and
32:19make a constructive contribution to the world and this situation uh make china will take a very active
32:28roles as kind of honest brokers communicate with all the different parts and sending the same signals and
32:38sending the same information that china want to peace want to stability and the wish you side can take a
32:46response to the response to the response to the action to stop the conflict as soon as possible as quick
32:52as
32:52possible and try to limit the negative impact of this conflict that overfilled to the whole the world systems
33:02i think till now china take a very cautious action and just like china's attitude on the
33:11all those all those similar things china always prefer a peaceful ways to solve conflict we against those illegal use
33:20of military force
33:22we against those actions that violate international law and we wish both sides to respect the systems
33:32uh but also there is a voice or thinking inside china and believe chinese people's the chinese government should
33:42become more active to find the new ways to actively and constructively use force so that it can take more
33:54active actions did not real use of us but some finding in some ways so that it will make china's
34:02point of views become more persuasive and make china make more contribution to ensure the peace and
34:09the stabilities of the world uh it will take times i think and i'm not sure but it seemed comparing
34:19to the
34:21other issues uh this time china's diplomatic communication with all the parties uh involved in
34:31confidence become more frequent and become more open and the public it seemed that china became more
34:38confident to use its constructive effect to ensure to make contribution so that it can help to end this
34:50tragedy as soon as possible and now another of the aspects that
34:57this whole situation in the middle east is unleashing has to do with its impact in a one of the
35:04major
35:05zones of the world in terms of oil production and how that impacts the global markets across the world
35:12just again once again for the audience to really understand in the midst of everything that is being said
35:18how can this impact other countries of the world primarily importing countries that are depending on oil
35:27production from this region in particular we've also seen the united states using the oil as one of the
35:36pressure tactics for example in cuba right now so it is one of the assets that is marking this moment
35:44in terms of
35:45how the countries are able to just develop and continue to function themselves and this situation in the
35:52middle east once again can have a major impact on other nations so what is your take on that and
35:58how
35:58would you best explain how the situation can impact the global south till now nearly every country's their own
36:06economic development uh become very sensitive to the oil price uh because they depend on this oil uh
36:14importance the first and the second i think uh maybe this time uh when the conflict continues
36:24europe and japan would be the countries uh which be more sensitive to those risk and the negative
36:33effect because their economic development is that high and they need more oils and they too much heavily
36:41depended on the importing of middle east oils and inside their countries they all have their economic
36:48troubles which make them less leverages to overcoming the potential uh potential uh pressures transfer by the
37:00uh uh uh transfer by the the rising up the oil price in europe's side uh not only oil but
37:08natural gas
37:09the price already are raised about more than uh 20 or 30 percent maybe in future those price will become
37:17higher and that's providing them more tough challenges because they also face the pressures
37:26the pressure that were raised raised by the european conflict it seemed that they will have these two
37:33pressures to the japan people find that japan's domestic economic has some problems and you can japan also
37:41had the great pressures from united states which covers in japan to invest more monies in the united
37:48states uh by these bilateral tariff negotiations while at the same time japan has messed the relationship
37:57with china china level up the bilateral use uh export control to you japan's uh that raised the tough
38:06challenges to japan's industry at the same time now the conflict in in iran will trigger the rising up the
38:16global oil price and japan imports more than 90 percent of oil directly from the middle east
38:23and japan will be the top countries affected the most by the situation in iran side to the global south
38:32i think that it will raise up the economic cost if those countries depending on the
38:41oil importing oil importing from iran but on the other side it also raise the questions if you consider
38:49about the developing things maybe uh you need we need to finding a more constructive ways to help the
38:58global south to passing uh this crisis uh the potential solution including that we take this
39:08and that's time to ensure to speed up the development of new energy systems and the infrastructures
39:18in the global south countries and helping them to speed up the energy structure reform which means
39:27to level down the dependence on oil and other traditional energies and helping them to embrace the new
39:36energies and then it will helping them to finding a more constructive ways to ensure their energy
39:44resilience to such kind of crisis so it's a crisis definitely to all countries but also if these
39:53countries especially global south countries they can uh well organized and united and then uh those
40:02countries responsible countries responsible countries can take responsible actions to providing necessary
40:09technical and other aid and helping the global south countries to bypassing the pressures
40:17raised by the rising up price of the oil we still have this opportunity make the possibility
40:24that global south can have become more resilient when facing this crisis
40:30um now professor before we end our conversation what are we looking at in the coming weeks in terms of
40:39this situation many people analysts experts from across the world are saying well this world is shifting into a situation
40:48in which more and more red lines are being pushed more international boundaries are being broken
40:55and the international mechanisms are not to this point able to stop this escalations china has been promoting alternative mechanisms
41:06in order for the nations to come together and try to find new ways of stabilizing the situation bringing the
41:15partners together once again returning to a world in which these attacks cannot just be unleashed for the sake of
41:23the interest of a single or
41:25two administrations across the world what do you think is going to happen in the coming weeks and what are
41:33we going to be looking at just from the different sides of the world in terms of is a new
41:39form of cooperation possible to stop this escalation that we have been seeing in 2026 in different parts of the
41:46world from getting worse and worse
41:48i think that in short term i think that in short term we need to take a more practical practical
41:54attitude to face this crisis
41:58frankly speaking no actors especially china has so-called the silver bullet to stop or to solve this risk in
42:08few days or few weeks
42:09the only opportunity the only opportunity lays the ball is at united states side if u.s can if trump
42:21can can make his clear head clear he should understand that he need
42:31a withdrawal or quit uh withdraw or quit uh of course maybe with owners from this crisis as soon as
42:37possible
42:38if he raise the bet he will lose more but it's not an easy job how to persuade no one
42:47know how to persuade him to accept these
42:50options the first and the second there's one more important uncertainties
42:55uh because israel uh because israel uh use these political assassinations and kill the top leaders of
43:02iran that trigger very tough challenges no one can ensure and no one understand how to stop the potential
43:12retaliations from iran side because such kind of attack don't have any legal excuse to persuade iran peoples
43:22anyone anyone no matter who he really is if he want to got the legacy legitimacy inside iran's regions new
43:33regions
43:34become the new top leaders he will do something to launch necessary retaliations that makes things
43:43much more complicated to control because such kind of attack and retaliations it's very easy to enter into
43:52lethal uh lethal uh reactions between iran and the country like israel and another uncertainties come from israel's side
44:04the leaders of israel administration mr netanyahu he seemed quite addicted to such kind of military operations
44:16he already quite familiar to take advantage by such kind of actions to lasting his political lives to help him
44:28to escape from the legal accused inside israel legal systems we cannot sure even we have some ways to persuade
44:39trump and iran new leaders to stop and to withdraw this retaliation escalation but how can we persuade and
44:49control israel's military actions in that region he just cannot be persuaded to stop he just find one and
44:59the other areas to launch this military offensive actions to trigger out a new crisis so that can ensure
45:09he can get benefit during that process so we have these three very uncertainty elements so let's take a more
45:20practical attitude no one can ensure this crisis and the risk can be stopped in the foreseeable future or in
45:30few days or weeks or months is the first and the second in the middle terms maybe i say that
45:38if this
45:38conflict lasts lasting longer than months or even several months it will raise a very tough questions to all
45:47countries all over the world maybe we need to act together it's not only china's alone the responsibilities
45:58to ensure to try to stop this conflict but it's all other countries except those three
46:08countries they involved even maybe including them it's their all it's our all composite this
46:14responsibility for all of peoples in the world can we have enough courage and wisdom to launch a joint
46:24actions this i don't think that's necessary to build a new structures we can act under the un framework
46:33and launch joint together launch joint actions but the real challenges whether how many to which extent
46:42how many state has enough courage to stand with china together because we need to together we need to
46:51stand together and have the same voice stop the military actions launch the ceasefires and let
47:00restore the peace and stability at that region such efforts need to join the efforts of every single state
47:10of the world systems of course china can become more active make more contribution to input but china
47:18already has its actions the other countries need also to take their responsible actions to join to stand with
47:27china together so that we can have more leverages more forces that which is required to restore
47:37the peace and the stabilities of the region and in the long term i'm not that pessimistic about the
47:46situation yes and there's a lot of rules red lines has been break but on the other side it's quite
47:55clear
47:56people all understand such kind of behavior is wrong that's not the correct directions we want to go i think
48:03that's the hope we still have the hope because generally speaking the majority of the peoples the
48:11majority of the states in the world they love peace and they prefer to live in the world which we
48:18have
48:19can we can enjoy the stability and the development and the security and the peace regulated by the world
48:26systems represented by the united nations even though the u.n system has its own shortcomings but comparing
48:34to those wars comparing to those reckless military actions to cut up to kill the top leaders of the
48:41countries during even the dialogue the negotiation is going on such kind of political assassinations
48:50should not become the normal existence in the health world i think that such kind of stimulation
49:00by this around issues will teach the world a very good lesson we need to take more active actions
49:08to ensure to restore and ensure the stability and the peace of the world i i think that in long
49:17term we
49:17can take a very cautious attitude on these things maybe people can learn some lessons so that will make in
49:27future maybe the world will come better but those process is quite challenges we need to
49:33do more to join together to do more to ensure that we can restore the peace and the security in
49:40that
49:40region and so as possible yes we definitely hope that that is the path that we are heading towards thank
49:49you so much professor once again for joining us here
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