00:02I believe in that God, but he doesn't listen to my prayers.
00:07That's the problem of believing in the God of irony.
00:10He doesn't take anything seriously.
00:13Sciocco di un contadino.
00:15Al fin potremo andare cercando avventure insieme.
00:20Don Quixote della Mancia.
00:22Venuto per far rivivere il perduto ordine della cavalleria.
00:26E' un santo.
00:27E' un passo.
00:27Sancho.
00:28You said, I want to dance with chaos.
00:32And I think that this quote of you represents this movie.
00:35I want to ask you if you could teach me some steps.
00:39Yes, I've been accused of chaos.
00:41I actually surround myself with very organized people.
00:46I also plan things very carefully.
00:49And then it's nice when chaos occurs.
00:52But you've got to have a structure before chaos.
00:55And then the chaos is a kind of surprise.
00:58It's a kind of test for everybody involved to see if they can rise through the madness.
01:05It's a theory.
01:08I want to ask you if, not if, when apocalypse come, will come, how do you imagine it?
01:17And how could we, if not survive it, at least enjoy it a little bit?
01:24I don't know how we deal with apocalypse.
01:26I'm more concerned about what's happening with the planet, which may be the real apocalypse.
01:33As everything, the oceans rise, the heat rises.
01:37We all kill this beautiful sphere of life.
01:42And that's it.
01:43I mean, I used to be more apocalyptic.
01:46And then I gave up thinking about it.
01:48But the reality is it's closer than I think most people want to believe.
01:55Okay.
01:56And we might as well have a good time until then.
01:58But we should do it better.
02:00We should get rid of our plastic.
02:02We should have less cars out.
02:03But the problem is everybody wants to have a good time until the collapse of everything.
02:08And that just speeds up the collapse.
02:11And I think we should take care of this world we've been given.
02:15You said a few years ago perversion is really important in life.
02:21I want to know if you do you still believe it and how?
02:26How can it be important?
02:27I don't believe anything anymore.
02:28I say things.
02:30I don't know.
02:32I lose all sense of what is real, what isn't, what you should do.
02:37What I usually like doing is starting a project and then making sense of that.
02:43And for the period of the project going on, life seems to make sense.
02:48And then the film comes out and I realize I'm wrong.
02:51So you start again.
02:52I don't know.
02:53I don't have any answers to anything anymore.
02:55I just do what I can, what is possible to do.
03:02It's very, with films, the possibility of doing what you want to do is very difficult because it cost a
03:07lot of money.
03:08So you learn to work your way through.
03:13In this movie there's a lot of dark humor and you said that irony is the only God you worship.
03:21So I want to ask you why in your opinion irony, humor is losing more and more acolytes these days?
03:29How is it possible?
03:31No, irony, I don't know what's possible.
03:33The thing with irony is that everybody tries to make sense of the world.
03:39Everybody thinks there's a plan.
03:41No, I think it's very funny what is going on.
03:44It's a kind of chaos.
03:45And just when you start taking yourself very seriously, something comes to undermine that.
03:53And that's, I think, the God of irony at work.
03:56So anything I believe in one day is taken away from me the next day.
04:01And I believe in that God, but he doesn't listen to my prayers.
04:07That's the problem of believing in the God of irony.
04:10He doesn't take anything seriously.
04:14Your movie, we could say, that is almost like the movie version of The Yellow King, the book, by Robert
04:22William Chambers.
04:23A book that is like...
04:24Oh, yeah, yeah, no, that's a...
04:25Oh, jeez, that's a long...
04:26I read that book a long time ago.
04:28It's a book that is supposed to go people crazy.
04:31So your movie is like...
04:33It's like that book.
04:34Are you glad about it?
04:35Do you think that art and madness is something that we have to pass on for the sake of humanity?
04:41I think madness is really important because it's a way of breaking out of the world that is usually created
04:49for us to believe in by the media.
04:52We are surrounded by so much information saying, this is the world, and you've got to come to terms with
04:57that.
04:58And madness is a good way of just breaking through that.
05:01Now, sometimes madness leads to complete disaster.
05:05There's no guarantee.
05:07But I just get so tired of everybody agreeing, this is reality.
05:15I don't...
05:15I don't...
05:16I think mad people are important to try to shape or shake up the world to say, it can be
05:24like this, it can be that.
05:25And sometimes they're right, sometimes they're wrong.
05:27But it keeps life more interesting.
05:31Okay, thank you so much.
05:35Yes or no, don't be shocked.
05:46Well, thank you so much.
05:49Grazie a tutti
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