07:54Et c'est vraiment évident.
07:59La plupart des Européens, je dirais, sont tentés de se protéger.
08:03Ils ne veulent pas être pris entre l'ammer de l'ammer de l'Israël ou l'Iran.
08:14Donc, la plupart des Européens sont en train de l'autre côté et attendent pour l'endroit de la crise.
08:21Il y a des countries qui sont plus active, Spain.
08:25Spain est vraiment en train de l'ammer de l'ammer de l'ammer,
08:29qui est vraiment en train de l'ammer de l'ammer de l'ammer de l'ammer.
08:34Et il y a été très active.
08:36Some say Spain est maintenant taking the part de France.
08:39Si il y avait un écrite sur l'Iran invasion,
08:41some would say Spain est maintenant la France voix à l'ammer.
08:44Would vous agree?
08:45I think, in a sense, to be frank,
08:47I think the Spanish prime minister was on the front line.
08:51The French have rejoined, really have rejoined the Spaniards.
08:56And now, one by one,
08:58the European countries are really assessing
09:01that the operation is in a dead end
09:05and also assessing that their public opinion
09:08is more and more moved
09:11by the suffering of the civilian population
09:14in Iran, but also in Lebanon.
09:17And if I may, just lastly, of course,
09:19the one woman who seems to want to be very active
09:22is the head of the European Commission.
09:24Are you surprised by the role
09:26that the head of the Commission is playing
09:27and wants to play?
09:28Is she in the rung,
09:29or ultimately is she a smart operator?
09:31I am a bit, you know, really,
09:33I'm a bit surprised
09:34because she's out of her competence.
09:36You know, the treaty,
09:38the European treaty,
09:39which is the basis of the European Union,
09:42doesn't give her any special competence
09:45in foreign policy.
09:48On the top of that,
09:50she's sticking to a line,
09:51which, again,
09:53it's not the line of Spain,
09:55it's not the line of France,
09:56it's a German line.
09:59Really, so,
10:02especially,
10:03which is more important,
10:04in a sense,
10:04that are the treaties,
10:05is the fact that the Europeans
10:08are the last flag bearer
10:10of international law.
10:12Really, it's,
10:13I should say,
10:14the DNA of the European Union
10:16is the international law.
10:20And to hear
10:22the President of the European Commission
10:24saying that,
10:25which really,
10:26it's not that important,
10:28the way the Germans
10:29actually are saying,
10:31what the Germans are saying,
10:33frankly,
10:34you can really,
10:35you can ask a lot of questions
10:37about that.
10:38Yes,
10:39I think there is a division
10:40in the European Union,
10:42not at a very bad moment,
10:45but again,
10:46as I've told you,
10:47with the Europeans,
10:48they're always divided.
10:49But on this point,
10:50just very briefly,
10:51what she did say
10:52is that the EU
10:52stands for international law,
10:54but it cannot be
10:54the custodian
10:55of a world
10:56that no longer exists.
10:58Does she have a point
10:59or is she in the wrong?
11:00Is this the wrong time
11:01to make that statement?
11:02You know,
11:02frankly,
11:03to be for,
11:04it's a bit like
11:07somebody who is,
11:08well,
11:08it's very French,
11:09somebody is in the middle
11:10of adultery
11:11and is going
11:12and is saying,
11:14oh,
11:14actually,
11:14I am in favor
11:15of the principle
11:17of marital fidelity
11:19while committing adultery.
11:23It's not,
11:24the international law
11:26is not only a principle,
11:28you know,
11:28really coming from heaven,
11:30but it's a policy.
11:32And which means
11:34that it should have consequences
11:36and we should,
11:38the Europeans,
11:39really,
11:40in a sense,
11:41saying we have to react,
11:43to react against Israel
11:46and against the U.S.
11:48Well,
11:48Ambassador,
11:49thank you so much
11:49on the geopolitics
11:51and marriage too.
11:52Thank you for joining us.
11:53Always great to see you.
11:54Thank you.
11:55A pleasure.
11:56A pleasure.
11:56Thank you.
11:56Thank you.
11:57Thank you.
11:57Générique
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