- 2 days ago
When a woman is brutally stabbed in broad daylight in suburban Michigan, officers launch a frantic manhunt to apprehend the attacker before they strike again. With body cameras capturing every pulse-pounding moment, police come face-to-face with a killer.
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00:28Oh
00:31It looks like she's going to stab like
00:33I've had pines
00:37Oh God
00:37I need you guys to leave
00:42and walk over there please
00:43so we can do our job okay
00:52Can we get a med bag
00:53med bag
00:55Hold that as good as you can okay
00:58She was acting all when I got here
01:00No pulse
01:01when I got here
01:04Yeah
01:09Someone want to help road the structure
01:11That way
01:14One two three up
01:16This way this way this way
01:18Go go go
01:31Alright we got this
01:32There we go
01:33The ambulance on the back side
01:34Okay
01:34Okay
01:44Manny, get any information about the police suspect, please, and which way he went.
01:48Yep. All right, what did you see? What did you see? We just, no way this is happening right now.
01:59She's my twin sister. What's her name? Taylor Drakovich. Why was she here today?
02:05So we just came back from the movie theater. Okay, all three of you?
02:09Yes. Okay. She was about to drive home, and all of a sudden, we heard her screaming.
02:14Okay. We thought it was the neighbors downstairs, but we came down, and mom saw her like this.
02:22Okay. You didn't see anybody? No. You just heard her screaming?
02:25All we saw was there was a car, a gray car, and it's flying down, you know, this way, and
02:31then she, no, and then they took off.
02:34Maybe an SUV? Okay.
02:36Clotty, are you in there?
02:39Only thing we got right now is a gray SUV left at a high rate of speed, North Mountain.
02:48Hey.
02:51Okay, does she have a boyfriend?
02:53Yes, she has a previous boyfriend.
02:55She has a PPO on him.
02:56Okay, what's his name?
02:58What's his name?
02:59Jeff.
03:00Jeff what?
03:00Jeff, you're hard to use.
03:05Does he have a vehicle?
03:06Yes, he drives.
03:09Black Chevy?
03:10Yes.
03:11Oh, my God.
03:13Would you mind if we just search through your apartment and make sure nothing happened in there?
03:16Okay.
03:17You can walk with us up there.
03:208-2.
03:21Myself and Baker-22 are going to be clearing apartment.
03:28No one else should be inside, correct?
03:34You're not featuring all the lights?
03:35Oh, perfect.
03:37No one else should be inside?
03:38No.
03:39Okay.
03:39Just with that.
03:40That way.
04:03And she never made it inside?
04:05No.
04:06Okay.
04:06Okay.
04:29It's all we just found out that the daughter does not have any room here.
04:38What's the tape?
04:40Start.
04:43We'll go 35.
04:44Okay.
04:45Multiple stab wounds to the back.
04:47In the apartment or out here?
04:48Right here.
04:49Okay.
04:50Is Vic's car here?
04:52Presumably this one.
04:53Okay.
04:54Mama's right there.
04:55Okay.
04:56They didn't see anything?
04:57Nobody saw what the hell went down?
05:00Not one?
05:01I'm just going to go take a look here.
05:03There's blood on the passenger floorboard and then some of her hair, which there's some
05:08of her hair over there, too, that she probably lost in the stabbing.
05:12So this door was open?
05:14But there's this bag here, so I think probably she tried to get back in here.
05:17Was the door open, though, when we got here?
05:19No.
05:19No, we were shutting it.
05:20Her keys are there.
05:21Okay.
05:22So I think maybe she tried to get in her car.
05:24That might send them a register.
05:26Sure.
05:28Okay.
05:28So we're scaring this.
05:30I checked under all these cars.
05:32Everyone?
05:32Yeah.
05:33Okay.
05:33Okay.
05:34They believe who witnessed the person leaving was in a gray SUV.
05:41Yeah.
05:43So we need to get on flock and start checking.
05:45Perfect.
05:47Wester, get a hold of management.
05:51She's right there.
05:51Okay.
05:52Do they have cameras that go down the main road?
05:54I'll take, I'll look, but generally I don't think they have anything.
05:57I'll check the main office, though, because they may be that sick.
06:01Coming in, though, parts of the team now.
06:03We've got a little stablints to the head.
06:06We do have pretty much down to the skull on our head.
06:09I have not muted back yet.
06:11CPR is in progress.
06:12We do have an attempted shock on board.
06:16Do you have a pulse?
06:20I can't feel one.
06:22I can just keep going.
06:23It's just showing heart rate.
06:24Continue.
06:26Breath.
06:27Is he nice and smooth on the stairs, please?
06:29Nice and smooth all the way out, guys.
06:32Go ahead.
06:33Yeah.
06:37Do you have her ID?
06:38Yeah.
06:40I'm good.
06:41I'm good.
06:42Okay.
07:09If they get there.
07:12I'd like to know if there's that gray SUV associated with him.
07:18I'm just trying to put everything together.
07:19So what I'm getting is her ex, they have issues, he's got a PPO and he's been making some threats.
07:26It sounds like she doesn't want to be with him and he's getting a little crazy about it.
07:30I just want to make sure we covered everything and we can put all the pieces together.
07:34I saw him on video.
07:36City Baker 3-1-7.
07:39Trying to keep my date straight.
07:41It's been...
07:4214.
07:43It was like two weeks ago he showed up at her work and he spent the night in jail.
07:50I think like, I think it was two weeks ago.
07:53Yeah.
07:54Where is she?
07:54When we head out in the morning, they have the video.
07:56We head out.
08:00There are both ways in the morning.
08:01We go.
08:02We go.
08:16All right.
08:24All right.
08:53There's a cruise there, say again.
08:59There's a Chevy Cruze that hits home, but they don't see an SUV.
09:03Clear, direct.
09:04You want to just, with caution, have them in contact with him.
09:19Get up on the landing behind Aaron.
09:24Kalamazoo police search warrant.
09:26Anyone inside 3B, come to the front door, please.
09:29Kalamazoo police search warrant.
09:36Kalamazoo police search warrant for apartment 3B.
09:38Anyone inside, call on now.
09:42Kalamazoo police search warrant.
09:46Oh, we're over there.
09:49Police department search warrant.
09:52Police department search warrant.
09:54Police department search warrant.
09:54I'll hold it out.
09:58Clear.
10:00Clear.
10:03Hello?
10:07Police search warrant.
10:10Clear.
10:17He's not here.
10:20we do have a telephone number for him not sure if we want to start a thing
10:28is there anywhere else he would go other than the apartment i think we went there
10:34he's not there do you have a good address for his parents or names
10:39um he's got a mic melissa mike his sister lives there too what's his sister's name ma'am jasmine
10:47jasmine
11:32hi i'm looking for jeff is here around
11:38uh calzu wants to talk to him about something they asked a couple of us to come out here
11:42and try and find him is he home okay do you know where he stays at
11:47um he has his apartment all right okay i appreciate it thank you
11:53thank you
12:00he's not here
12:29let's go again
12:38hey one of our depths is behind that car okay
12:43the car must have been in the garage
12:47i'll watch him fall in the driveway and head east
12:48and i'll talk to him
13:18and i'll see you next time
13:22Great GMC from 26th Street, 63rd Ave.
13:3226th Street, 63rd Ave. We'll be out on the felony stop.
13:41Driver, show us your hands!
13:45Step out of the car! Show us your hands!
13:52Who else is in the car with you? Just you?
13:58Can you step back here for me?
14:02Just keep your hands where we can see them, okay?
14:04There's nobody else in the car? Okay.
14:07I'm just trying to get my lottery.
14:10Why do you guys get some of the diamonds?
14:13I don't understand.
14:18I'm just trying to get my lottery.
14:27The vehicle's clear. We're out with the mom.
14:29What the hell?
14:30There's going to be some officers here to talk to you in just a second, okay?
14:33No. Why you guys pulled the gun on me is bull .
14:37Ma'am, you're going to stay here, okay?
14:39Do anything, mom?
14:42Just her. This is mom. This is Melissa.
14:45Okay.
14:45And car's empty, I'm guessing?
14:47Car's empty.
14:47She say anything about where he is?
14:49She's just pissed off that we're harassed.
14:51Okay.
14:54So, we think that he took off in this car from the scene.
14:58So, obviously, if she's got it, she had some kind of communication with him.
15:02Do you still have eyes on that house?
15:04I don't think so. I can go slide back there.
15:06If we could get some more eyes on the house, we'll talk to mom real quick.
15:10Hi, ma'am.
15:11Why did I get a gun cut on me?
15:13I understand.
15:14No, it's bull .
15:15They both pulled the gun on me.
15:16I'm sure you're very worried and frustrated about everything that's gone.
15:20I have no idea what's going on.
15:22The reason, allow me to explain everything, okay?
15:24We need to talk to Jeff.
15:25Jeff and Taylor got into it, and we got to talk to him right away.
15:29They got into it?
15:30Yes.
15:30Did he go to see her or something?
15:33Yes.
15:33Do you know, is he back at your place?
15:35No.
15:36Do you know where he's at?
15:37No.
15:39Melissa, can I come talk to you over here real quick?
15:41You can talk to me.
15:43That's fine.
15:45Melissa, you are in a horrible spot right now because your son has put you in the middle
15:52of a big mess.
15:53All right?
15:55I know that Jeff was in that vehicle within the last couple of hours, and I know that
16:01that vehicle made it back to your place and left.
16:04We need to get a hold of him because we are concerned for his safety.
16:08I don't know how to get a hold of Jeffrey.
16:13I worry about Jeffrey's safety, too.
16:16I mean, he already tried to commit suicide once.
16:18Mm-hmm.
16:20What are you looking for in my car?
16:24I'm just looking, ma'am.
16:25You know what?
16:26Open the doors.
16:26You can look all through my car.
16:28I don't have anything.
16:30It's just my work stuff.
16:33You know what?
16:34I'm going to open the doors, and you can-
16:35Hey, Melissa.
16:36Melissa, Melissa.
16:37It's really irritating the hell out of me.
16:39Melissa.
16:39Because if you're going to look in my car, I'll open the doors.
16:41You can look through my whole car.
16:44Would you mind keeping talking to me while he's just looking around, and I'm not even
16:47saying that he's going to go in your car, but you're okay if he does?
16:50I don't have anything in there for him to-
16:53Yeah.
16:53Exactly.
16:56Oh.
16:56That looks like vomit.
16:59See this right here?
17:01They're going to the phone.
17:03What is it?
17:04Oh, the blood?
17:04Yeah.
17:11There's blood in the front seat, so she got this part from him somehow.
17:18You know what?
17:19I'm not going to answer any more of your questions because-
17:21We're-
17:22Unfortunately, you can't get back in your car right now.
17:24All right?
17:25So, you can stay here and talk with me if you'd like.
17:28Ma'am, are you injured at all?
17:29Why would I be injured?
17:30Well, it just looks like there's some blood in the center couch, so I'll just make sure
17:34you don't need any medical attention or anything like that.
17:37Do you have any injuries that we need to know about?
17:43You're okay?
17:44Yeah.
17:48It's like Detective Knopf said, there's blood in your vehicle.
17:52Do you know where it came from?
17:59Yeah.
18:00Where is there blood in the car?
18:06I just want to look at it.
18:07I'm not going to-
18:12Right by the phone.
18:14By my phone?
18:16Whatever-
18:16Who has every phone that is in the middle?
18:18That's my phone.
18:21And it looks like on the trash can as well.
18:25Oh, that might be my lipstick.
18:28So, here's our concern.
18:29Our concern is that it's-
18:34I don't think it's blood. I know it's not blood.
18:38I don't know that it's not blood.
18:41Okay.
18:48The phone is paying.
18:49I went right back to the house.
18:55There is a silver focus in the driveway that's registered to your S1's sister, Jasmine Kucharski.
19:04Alright, um, do you see any movement at the house?
19:07No.
19:08Okay.
19:13Who's over at the house right now?
19:15My daughter and her boyfriend. Jasmine and Zach.
19:18Okay.
19:19Step over here and talk with me, okay?
19:22I'm gonna let you know what's going on.
19:26You can't tell my car. I gotta go to work.
19:29You'll find out if you let me talk to you. Let's go back over here so you can-
19:33No, I need to get my work stuff out of there for my car. I need to get my purse.
19:37Melissa.
19:37Melissa.
19:37What?
19:38Do you think we're out here for a PPO violation?
19:40I don't know what you are out here. I honestly don't. I really swear to God, I don't have any
19:45idea.
19:46I don't- I- I- I'm telling you the honest truth.
19:49Alright. Taylor is dead. Alright?
19:52And we need to find Jeff before he does something to himself.
19:56Taylor's dead?
19:57Yes.
19:58What?
19:59We're not out here for some little thing.
20:00You're, you're, you're, you're lying.
20:02I'm not lying.
20:02Oh my gosh, are you serious? Taylor's dead?
20:05I love Taylor.
20:06Think about everything that's happened in the last hour.
20:08I love Taylor.
20:09I love Taylor.
20:33I love Taylor.
20:33What is the name for this? Do you also want to share the cell with them?
20:36Do you need a phone and phone for her?
20:38Do you need a phone and phone for her?
20:38I don't know anything.
20:40Okay.
20:41Please, please just don't talk to me, okay?
20:44Please just don't.
20:46Do you need a phone and phone for her?
20:52If you can get her wherever is most convenient for her,
20:56because we're going to head to their house and deal with Jasmine and Zach
21:00and the search warrant and everything related to that.
21:04I could drop you at a hotel if you don't got family.
21:07Are you comfortable with one of the hotels?
21:09I guess so.
21:11Okay.
21:12Before we get in the car, before they really get rolling on that thing,
21:15is Jeff going to pop out behind the door and try to stab one of us?
21:20No.
21:22Be there in a second.
21:32Please come to the front door. There's arms in the air.
21:36Van Buren has just lit up the house and they're doing announcements now.
21:41We'll let you know if anyone comes out.
21:49Oh, we got contact at the front door.
21:53Jasmine?
21:54Yep.
21:54Yep.
21:55Who's with you, Zach?
21:56Yep.
21:57Keep walking out.
22:00There we go.
22:02He's going to get tied to death.
22:03Okay, you can get tied to death.
22:04Can you just put your hands on top of the truck hook?
22:06Zach, right?
22:07Okay.
22:07We would like to talk to you guys about something that happened earlier today.
22:11Do not under arrest or anything like that.
22:13And then we'll just have a conversation.
22:15Mike?
22:16Mike.
22:19Hi, Jasmine.
22:20Hi.
22:21Are you warm enough?
22:23Yes.
22:23You've got your feet out.
22:23Okay.
22:24Sorry, I'll block the mic here.
22:26Um, it sounds like Jeff and Taylor kind of got into it earlier today.
22:31Have you talked to him or seen him today?
22:36He won't be called.
22:37It'll be like 8 o'clock.
22:40That was when you last talked to him?
22:42I think so, yeah.
22:43Just for my peace of mind, would you mind showing me your phone, like the text messages and call
22:47logs just so I can say he hasn't texted or called her since 3 or whatever?
22:52Is he listed as Jeff or what's he listed under?
22:57Yeah.
22:57Is this you on this side?
22:58Yeah, I think so.
23:00So he said cops are here at 6.53.
23:05You said 20 minutes out.
23:06Lawyer, is this you talking to him?
23:08Yeah, I guess.
23:09He said call mom.
23:11Tell her to tell them to leave.
23:12You don't remember that?
23:14I don't know.
23:16Yes, I don't know.
23:17He was, oh my God.
23:19Now that you mention it, I'm so sorry.
23:21Yeah, I just, I f***ed my husband.
23:25Um, he just, I guess he panics all the time about the cops when I write it off.
23:29How come you told him to get a lawyer?
23:31Because if she said he broke PPO and he didn't, or he did, then he's going to go back to
23:34jail.
23:34And if he goes back to jail for three months, he's just going to kill himself.
23:49Jasmine, is Jeff inside the house?
23:51No, I don't think so.
23:53I don't know.
23:53We've been gone all day.
23:56All right, um, give me just a minute.
23:58I'll be right back, okay?
24:03Uh, the dad's just arriving also.
24:05I'm going to go make contact with him.
24:08Hi.
24:08Hi.
24:09Michael?
24:10Yes.
24:11All right.
24:12Um, I'm sorry.
24:13I apologize for everything that is going on here.
24:16My name is Brian Daltman.
24:17I'm a detective.
24:17I know your wife reached out to you at some point.
24:21Have you talked to Jeff at all tonight?
24:23No.
24:24Um, did you have your phone with you?
24:25You know when the last time you would have spoke to him was?
24:29That would be...
24:32My phone.
24:33Do you guys have any weapons in the house or anything like that?
24:38I, I do have, uh, my dad's gone.
24:43Uh, it's a .22.
24:45Okay.
24:45All right.
24:46Hang tight with us for a couple of minutes, okay?
24:50We can go up to the side and come across.
24:52Yep.
24:53Are you ready?
24:54Great.
24:56I'm going to go over there.
24:57I'm going to go over there.
24:58I'm going to go over there.
25:00Drone, Derek, we're going to watch you here.
25:05I'm going to go over there.
25:15I got your window over here, guys.
25:29Kalamazoo police.
25:31Anyone inside, come to the front door.
25:38Kalamazoo police.
25:40Jeff, come to the front door.
25:45Kalamazoo police.
25:47We have a search warrant.
25:48Anyone inside, come to the front door.
25:56Good to go.
25:57Okay.
26:00Kalamazoo police, search warrant.
26:02I got the home here.
26:03Jake's downstairs.
26:04I'm with you.
26:06Check that corner there.
26:08Slow and steady.
26:11Jeff?
26:13Jeff, public safety call out, bud.
26:15Wider to the right.
26:17I'm with you.
26:18I'm with you.
26:19I can't over here.
26:21Police search warrant.
26:22Police search warrant.
26:24Call out.
26:27Okay.
26:28Guessing this is the garage.
26:30Yep.
26:32I'm with you for the garage.
26:34Kalamazoo police.
26:35Search warrant.
26:36Anyone inside, call out now.
26:39Come on, Jeff.
26:40Call out, buddy.
26:42What is that?
26:43Is that a coat or something?
26:45Looks like a coat rack.
26:46Okay.
26:47Back there.
26:50I don't know.
26:51I don't know.
26:51I don't know.
26:51I don't hear it.
26:55Kalamazoo police.
26:56Anyone in the garage, call out now.
27:03All right.
27:03Clear.
27:07That insulation, is there a scuttle?
27:09Look up.
27:11Yeah.
27:12There's a scuttle?
27:13Uh, yeah.
27:14Do you see this?
27:14The insulation over here?
27:18Yep.
27:20Okay.
27:22All right.
27:23We have to step here, step there.
27:25So, he could be up there.
27:27He can definitely go.
27:29Yep.
27:29So, you might want to toss the K-9 up in?
27:33So, that's...
27:35It would be tricky to get the K-9 up there,
27:37but I will say the drone guy
27:39is talking a lot about how their drones
27:42can just go inside and clear.
27:44That might be a good thing for getting that added.
27:47All right.
27:47Yeah.
27:57Drone's coming up.
27:59Police department, call out if you're in here.
28:02Jeff, can you call out, please?
28:04Come on out.
28:09Come on out.
28:11Keep going.
28:12You're going to need more height on it, man.
28:31You're going to need more height on it, man.
28:32To the right.
28:35Yeah, there he is.
28:37Yeah, he's up there.
28:39He's got a knife.
28:43Hey, Jeff.
28:44What's that in your mouth?
28:47Ovate?
28:47Okay.
28:50Jeff, I want you to drop that knife, okay, bud?
28:52Can you put the knife down?
28:56Right there.
28:58Jeff?
28:59Hey, listen.
28:59This is Tim.
29:00I know you're nervous.
29:01I know you're worried about what's going on.
29:03Okay?
29:04We don't...
29:05We're not here to harm you or anything.
29:06We want to help.
29:08That's why we're here.
29:09I told your sister.
29:11I told your dad out front we were going to do everything we could to help you out in
29:16this situation, okay?
29:20I can tell you right now, I wholeheartedly will let you talk to your dad and your sister
29:25if you want to come down right now, okay?
29:30I really like it for your safety, for my partner's safety and eyes.
29:35Guys, can we just have you come on down with me right now?
29:39Right now.
29:40Okay.
29:41Okay.
29:42Say, Tim.
29:43Yes?
29:43Would you let Jeff know, and I know you're making great progress on that he's talking with
29:48you, but in the next couple of minutes, unfortunately, if he doesn't start to make his way down,
29:54we are going to open a hole in the garage.
29:58Okay.
30:00Jeff, that's my captain, but I would like you to just come through this hole, and then
30:06that way we can go outside and have a conversation, and I can get you some water.
30:10Could we do that right now?
30:13I can't.
30:14We're kind of not going to do the hole more time thing, okay?
30:20Unfortunately, I think this might be a little bit loud, but I just want him to be aware
30:24that we're going to be making some noise.
30:26Okay.
30:31Jeff, put the knife down.
30:33Listen to me.
30:34Listen to me.
30:36Drop the knife.
30:37Put the knife down, okay?
30:39Put the knife down.
30:42We care about you.
30:44We don't want anything to happen to you.
30:52All these gentlemen are doing is helping you get access down, okay?
30:57Jeff, listen to me, okay?
30:59Jeff.
31:02Hey, Jeff.
31:06You got hands?
31:13Jeff, we got a hole, so come on down in that hole right there if you can.
31:16We're good.
31:17We're good.
31:17One shooter.
31:20I can't see him, so...
31:22We have coverage, so if you want to move up and take a position, elevate it right behind
31:27you.
31:28Okay.
31:29All right.
31:32Jeff.
31:32Lies up.
31:33Okay.
31:33You see me, bud?
31:35Okay.
31:35Look at me.
31:37Okay.
31:38What is going on down here is them wanting to see that you're okay.
31:44All right?
31:44All the way up.
31:45All the way up.
31:45I want you to drop your knife.
31:47I'll give you a shot.
31:48Just give me a holster.
31:49Okay.
31:50I want you to drop your knife down to the floor over there by those guys.
31:55Can you do that?
31:56Just put it down in the garage.
31:59Can you do that for me?
32:00This is Ernie.
32:01I'm up.
32:02You have two people now that are in an insulated roof trying to help you to make sure you're
32:08okay.
32:08Get that closer to Ernie.
32:13If you just put the knife down, I'll walk over to you and we'll help you get down out of
32:20here.
32:24We can move this ladder to any of these holes, okay?
32:28Whatever's easiest.
32:29Okay.
32:30We're just moving.
32:31Does that have a shot?
32:33No.
32:35We're not even...
32:35Does that have a shot?
32:37We're not even...
32:38Look at...
32:38I'm not even pointing it at you, okay?
32:42Now that you can see it face-to-face, I know that light was probably blind in there.
32:46Could you just set it down for a second and see what happens and then we can just keep
32:49talking?
32:52Okay.
32:54Thank you very much, Jeff.
32:56Could you do me one more thing?
32:57What?
32:58Could you just take your hand and maybe put it on the 2x4 so that you're just not holding
33:02it?
33:02It's still right there, but you're just not holding it.
33:05Could you do that for me?
33:06You're going to shoot.
33:09You see my hands?
33:10No one even has a gun out.
33:12We're not doing that, okay?
33:13Gun's in my holster.
33:15I'm standing here and I'm closer to you because I want you to be able to see that I'm not
33:19trying
33:19to play games with you, okay?
33:20I'm not trying to trick you.
33:21I want you to talk to us.
33:23There's no games and I'll trick you.
33:23Okay.
33:24Why can't you guys just kill me?
33:26We don't want to do that and we're not going to do that, okay?
33:30What's going to happen?
33:33Let's go down.
33:34Let's talk to your dad.
33:35Let's talk to your sister.
33:38Just put the knife down.
33:42I know we're talking in circles, but why can't you guys just f***ing die?
33:49That's not what we do.
33:50We don't do that.
33:51Why can't you just f***ing die?
33:53We don't ever give up, Jeff.
33:54We don't want to.
33:55We don't want to.
33:55I'd rather.
33:57I'd rather.
33:57At least better just be dead.
33:59Oh!
34:01Get him.
34:02Get him.
34:05Get him.
34:06Get him.
34:06Get him.
34:07Get him.
34:07Get him.
34:08Get him.
34:08Get him.
34:08Get him.
34:09Get him.
34:10Get him.
34:11Out.
34:13Knife's out.
34:14Go.
34:14Hit again.
34:15I'm good.
34:18All right.
34:19Knife down.
34:19Knife down.
34:20Hey.
34:21Good.
34:21All right.
34:22You're good.
34:23Let's get him up before he goes through.
34:26Okay.
34:27Don't drop him.
34:28Nope.
34:29It's all right.
34:29Watch your foot, Jeff.
34:31Got an extra body?
34:32Yep.
34:32Stand up on the beam.
34:33Stand up on the beam.
34:35Hey, hey, hey.
34:37You did it.
34:38You did it.
34:38You did it.
34:39We're here.
34:39You got this.
34:41I'm doing great.
34:43Hold on.
34:43You're all right.
34:44You're good.
34:45Hold on with your arms.
34:46Keep going.
34:46You got him?
34:47Yep.
34:47Keep going.
34:49Nope.
34:52Jeff, come on.
34:53Let me get the other side.
34:55Watch out.
34:56Keep walking.
34:57Keep walking, bud.
34:58You're okay.
34:58Yep.
34:59Keep walking.
35:01There you go.
35:02Nice job.
35:04Almost there.
35:04Good job.
35:05Yep.
35:06Oh, oh, oh.
35:07Oh, oh.
35:07Jeff.
35:09Watch the drywall there, guys.
35:10Yeah, it's gross.
35:11Come on.
35:12Stand up.
35:13Stand up, Jeff.
35:14Jeff, come on.
35:15Come on.
35:16Oh, oh, oh.
35:17That's okay.
35:17Guys, can you help?
35:18He's coming down.
35:19We can't.
35:20We reach.
35:21Calm as we can try to catch him.
35:22I think Velt and I can probably assist in a lowering here to help with the legs.
35:27Go ahead, Jeff.
35:28You go ahead.
35:28I got him.
35:30I got him.
35:31You're good?
35:32You're coming down.
35:33You're ready?
35:33Yep.
35:34Okay.
35:35Yeah, I can't beat him.
35:37We're going to go around back.
35:38Yep.
35:39Get it.
35:42Get it.
35:43Get it.
35:44Get it.
35:44Get it.
35:45Get it.
35:45Get it.
35:45Get it.
35:46Get it.
35:47Get it.
35:48Get it.
35:49That was awesome.
36:04Hub in, bud.
36:09Let me grab the seat belt from you, okay?
36:12I want to make sure you're safe.
36:16Hey, brother, I'm going to have your sister come back so you can talk to her.
36:19Are you okay with that?
36:20Yeah.
36:21You want to do that?
36:22Sure.
36:22Okay.
36:34Hey.
36:35What's up?
36:37No.
36:38I don't know.
36:40I don't know.
36:42I love you still.
36:44I love you too.
36:44I don't know.
36:45I don't know anything.
36:48Yeah.
36:52I don't know what you want to say to me, but they let me talk to you.
36:55Yeah, I guess so.
36:57I guess just pay my bond, my bail.
37:01Call some lawyers.
37:03Well, you're genuinely insane, so I might be right on that.
37:07Yeah.
37:08All right.
37:09We're going to get rocking.
37:11I'll be with you lawyers.
37:19Jeff, I'm so glad you're sitting here talking to me.
37:22Oh, my gosh, man.
37:23You have no idea.
37:25Yeah.
37:36All right, bud.
37:38I'm out.
37:39We didn't do our orders here.
37:41You want a walk?
37:46All right.
37:47All right.
37:49Let's drop the glove here.
37:50Sure.
37:51Close?
37:53Close.
37:53Close.
37:53We obviously brought you down here so we could sit down like men.
37:57This is an opportunity for you to give us your side of the story about what happened here today.
38:04As far as your phone, is your phone up in the attic where you were at, or is it somewhere
38:08else in the house?
38:09It's somewhere in the house.
38:11Like where?
38:11I really don't know everything.
38:13Like when the cops came, I just ran into the attic.
38:16It's kind of just like, blur.
38:20And you've been up in the attic since they first showed up?
38:24Yep.
38:25What car did you drive when you drove to your parents' house today?
38:29What car was that that you brought there?
38:31I used Zach and Jasmine's car.
38:33The one that was in the driveway?
38:34Yeah.
38:35Is there any chance that maybe you were in your mom's car?
38:38No.
38:39Are you sure?
38:40Mm-hmm.
38:41You think, who was in your mom's car today then?
38:44My mom?
38:45Yeah.
38:47She had to run some airing.
38:49Well, wouldn't it surprise you if I told you that that car was in Kalamazoo this afternoon?
38:55Your mom's was?
38:56I could show you.
38:57Yeah, she was probably in Kalamazoo.
39:00But she said she wasn't in Kalamazoo.
39:04Mm-hmm.
39:05We've been working since this evening, since this incident happened, but we can track exactly
39:12where you've been.
39:13We, we know that you didn't take the, your sister's little gray car.
39:20So, obviously we didn't just show up at your house randomly today, right?
39:24We know that you were in your mom's 2019 GMC terrain.
39:30We know that you, you were over on Cork Street with Taylor.
39:34Your mom's car is right here at Cork and Old Cork.
39:38I don't remember that.
39:40You don't remember any of that?
39:41No.
39:41Okay.
39:44I'd like to speak to my lawyers.
39:46Okay.
39:47That's all right.
39:48It's absolutely fine.
39:49Yep.
39:50Okay.
39:51Yep.
39:51That's your, that's your right, Matt.
39:53So what's next?
39:55What's next?
39:56Yep.
39:57Um, well, you're gonna go to jail.
39:59Mm-hmm.
40:00And then the case will go before the prosecutor's office.
40:03Mm-hmm.
40:03And they'll decide what the appropriate charge is.
40:06Okay.
40:07Okay.
40:08A man charged with fatally stabbing his ex-girlfriend has entered a plea for the murder.
40:1328-year-old Taylor was stabbed in the face, head and hands.
40:18Evidence recovered included a bloody knife and bloody clothes.
40:21Jeffrey Kucharski pleaded guilty today to second-degree murder.
40:25He remains in jail without bond.
40:39Jeffrey Kucharski was sentenced to 60 to 100 years in prison for the murder of his ex-girlfriend, Taylor Dragovich.
40:46Her brother had this to say to Kucharski.
40:48You are a piece of garbage.
40:51You are a piece of garbage.
40:51And because of what you did about sister, I can't trust people anymore.
40:56The PPO that she was granted did nothing to protect her.
40:59And he was free to lie in wait and fatally attack her when her defenses were down.
41:04Taylor deserved better.
41:12We want to honor Taylor's generous spirit and beautiful soul as we bring awareness to the seriousness of domestic violence.
41:22She shouldn't be in a cemetery at 29.
41:24She should be here.
41:26So, we're honoring the 28 years we were lucky enough to have her here.
41:32I miss her smile.
41:33I miss her laugh.
41:35That's the essence of her, yeah.
41:37Just that big smile.
41:38And she had it on all the time.
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