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00:26It looks like she's gonna stab like
00:35I need you guys to leave and walk over there, please so we can do our job. Okay. All right
00:48Can we get a med bag med bag hold that as good as you can okay
00:53She was acting all when I got here. No pulse when I got here
00:59Yeah
01:05Someone on the help road the stretcher
01:09Yep one two three up. Oh this way this way this way go go
01:26All right, we got this
01:27There we go
01:28He was on the back side
01:30Yeah
01:59Okay
02:29So we just came back from the movie theater
02:31Okay
02:32Okay
02:32Only thing we got right now is a gray SUV left at a high rate of speed
02:39North Mountain
02:47Okay
02:47Okay, does she have a boyfriend?
02:48Yes
02:49She has a previous boyfriend
02:50She has a PPO on him
03:18I think 22 are going to be clearing the apartment
03:23No one else should be inside, correct?
03:29You're not featuring all the lights?
03:31Oh, perfect
03:32No one else should be inside
03:34No
03:34Okay
03:35Just make that
03:35That way
03:39No, she doesn't live
03:43No, we're just together
03:59And she never made it inside
04:01No
04:16Okay
04:17Looks like good
04:24Search is complete
04:25Nothing
04:25No, we just found out that the daughter does not have any room here
04:34What's the tape?
04:36Guard
04:38We'll go 35
04:39Okay
04:41Multiple stab wounds to the back
04:42In the apartment
04:43Out here
04:44Right here
04:44Okay
04:45Is Vic's car here?
04:47Presumably this one
04:48Okay
04:49Mama's right there
04:50Okay
04:51They didn't see anything
04:53Nobody saw what the hell went down
04:55No, I don't think so
04:57So I'm just going to go take a look here
04:58There's blood
05:00On the passenger floorboard
05:02And then some of her hair
05:03Which there's some of her hair over there too
05:05That she probably lost in the stabbing
05:08So this door was open
05:09But there's this bag here
05:10So I think probably she tried to get back in here
05:12Was the door open though when we got here?
05:15No
05:15No, we were shutting it
05:15Because her keys are there
05:16Okay
05:17So I think maybe she tried to get in her car
05:19That makes sense
05:20And then just
05:21Over there
05:22Sure
05:23Okay
05:23Okay
05:24So we're
05:24No weapon yet
05:25I checked under all these cars
05:27Everyone?
05:28Yeah
05:28Okay
05:28Okay
05:30Okay
05:30They believe who witnessed
05:32The person leaving
05:33Was in a gray SUV
05:36Yeah
05:38So we need to get on flock
05:40And start checking
05:42Luster
05:43Get a hold of management
05:46She's right there
05:47Okay
05:47Do they have cameras that go down the main road?
05:49I'll take
05:50I'll look
05:50But generally I don't think they have anything
05:52I'll check the main office though
05:54So maybe that's different
05:56Coming in
05:57The parts between now
05:58We've got three stablants to the head
06:00Depression
06:01Uh, we do have
06:02Pretty much down to the skull on our head
06:04I have not muted back yet
06:06CPR is in progress
06:08We do, uh
06:09Have an attempted shock on board
06:11Do you have a pulse?
06:16I can't feel one
06:17You can just keep going
06:18It's just showing heart rate
06:19So it might be
06:20Continue
06:21Breath
06:22Is it nice and smooth on these chairs please?
06:24Nice and smooth all the way out guys
06:26I can't feel one of these chairs
06:28Go ahead
06:28This is a moment of the camera
06:29Is this a moment of the camera??
06:30is a moment of the camera This
06:31is a moment of the camera Do
06:32you have your ID? Yeah
06:34Stay
06:34back Is
06:35it on your camera? I'm
06:37good I'm
06:38going to Okay Stay
06:41All right
06:41going to see you I'm
06:42going to see you Do it
06:42I'm
06:42going to see you I'm
06:42going to see you This is
06:45Yeah Just
06:51go
06:51ahead Yes,
06:51go ahead This is
06:52our valid We feel
06:53it was served on 323 this year
07:05If they get there, I'd like to know if there's that gray SUV associated with him.
07:13I'm just trying to put everything together.
07:15So what I'm getting is her ex, they have issues, he's got a PPO and he's been making some threats.
07:21It sounds like she doesn't want to be with him and he's getting a little crazy about it.
07:25I just want to make sure we covered everything and we can put all the pieces together.
07:30I saw him on video.
07:34I'm trying to keep my date straight.
07:36It's been...
07:37It was like two weeks ago he showed up at her work and he spent the night in jail.
07:46I think it was two weeks ago.
07:48Yeah.
07:49If they get out in the morning, they have the video.
07:53Okay.
08:09Okay.
08:10I don't know.
08:54There's a Chevy Cruze at his home, but they don't see an SUV.
08:58Clear, direct.
08:59You want to just, with caution, have them make contact with him.
09:15I'm going to find a landing behind Aaron.
09:20Cowboys and police search warrant, anyone inside 3B, come to the front door, please.
09:25Cowboys and police search warrant.
09:31Cowboys and police search warrant for apartment 3B, anyone inside, call on now.
09:37Cowboys and police search warrant.
09:41Oh, we're over there.
09:45Police department, search warrant.
09:47Police department, search warrant.
09:54Clear.
09:56Clear.
09:58Clear.
10:04Police search warrant.
10:06Clear.
10:13He's not here.
10:17We do have a telephone number for him.
10:19Not sure if we want to start a thing.
10:22Please.
10:25Is there anywhere else he would go?
10:27Other than the apartment.
10:29I think we went there.
10:30He's not there.
10:31Do you have a good address for his parents or names?
10:36Melissa and Mike.
10:37Melissa and Mike.
10:39His sister lives there, too.
10:41What's his sister's name, ma'am?
10:43Jasmine.
10:43Jasmine.
10:45Jasmine.
10:46Circle.
10:57Get an exit.
10:58auch lexies.
10:59family Βい них
11:13DON'T
11:15GETTING
11:15UNIDENTIFIED
11:16UNIDENTIFIED
11:16UNIDENTIFIED
11:16UNIDENTIFIED
11:28Hi, I'm looking for Jeff.
11:30Is he around?
11:33Why are you looking for my Jeff?
11:35Kalzoo wants to talk to him about something.
11:37They asked a couple of us to come out here and try and find him.
11:40Is he home?
11:41He's not even here.
11:43Do you know where he stays at?
11:44He has his apartment.
11:47Alrighty.
11:48Okay, I appreciate it.
11:56He's not here.
12:11Go again, Bakersfield.
12:34Hey, one of our deaths is behind that car.
12:38Okay.
12:40The car must have been in the garage.
12:43I watch him pull out of the driveway and head east.
12:45See you next time.
12:47Bye.
12:56Bye.
12:58Bye.
13:06Bye.
13:19Great GMC, 26th Street, 63rd Ave.
13:25C-15.
13:2926th Street, 63rd Ave.
13:30We'll be out on the Pelony stop.
13:38Driver, show us your hands.
13:41Step out of the car, show us your hands.
13:46Show us your hands.
13:49Who else is in the car with you?
13:51Just you?
13:54Can you step back here for me?
13:59Just keep your hands where we can see them, okay?
14:01There's nobody else in the car?
14:02Okay.
14:03I was going to get my lottery.
14:06Why you guys are missing a gun?
14:10I know.
14:23Vehicle's clear.
14:24We're out with the mom.
14:25What the hell?
14:27There's going to be some officers here to talk to you in just a second, okay?
14:29No.
14:30Why you guys pulled a gun on me is bull******.
14:34Ma'am, you're going to stay here, okay?
14:35I can do anything, Mom!
14:39Just her.
14:40This is Mom.
14:40This is Melissa.
14:41Okay.
14:42And car's empty, I'm guessing?
14:43Car's empty.
14:44She say anything about where he is?
14:45She's just pissed off that we're harassing.
14:47Okay.
14:51So, we think that he took off in this car from the scene.
14:55So, obviously, she's got it.
14:56She had some kind of communication with him.
14:59You still have eyes on that house?
15:00I don't think so.
15:01I can go slide back there.
15:02If we could get some more eyes on the house, we'll talk to Mom real quick.
15:07Hi, ma'am.
15:07Why did I get a gun cut on me?
15:10I understand.
15:11So, they...
15:12They both pulled a gun on me.
15:13I'm sure you're very worried and frustrated about everything that's gone on.
15:17I have no idea what's going on.
15:18Allow me to explain everything, okay?
15:20We need to talk to Jeff.
15:22Jeff and Taylor got into it, and we got to talk to him right away.
15:25We got into it.
15:26Yes.
15:27Did he go to see her or something?
15:29Yes.
15:30Do you know, is he back at your place?
15:32No.
15:32Do you know where he's at?
15:34No.
15:35Melissa, can I come talk to you over here real quick?
15:38You can talk to me.
15:39That's fine.
15:42Melissa, you are...
15:43You are in a horrible spot right now.
15:46Because your son has put you in the middle of a big mess.
15:50All right?
15:51I know that Jeff was in that vehicle within the last couple of hours.
15:56And I know that that vehicle made it back to your place and left.
16:00And we need to get a hold of him because we are concerned for his safety.
16:04I don't know how to get a hold of Jeffrey.
16:09I worry about Jeffrey's safety, too.
16:12I mean, he already tried to commit suicide once.
16:16What are you looking for in my car?
16:20I'm just looking, ma'am.
16:22You know what?
16:22Open the doors.
16:23You can look all through my car.
16:24I don't have anything.
16:26It's just my work stuff.
16:30You know what?
16:30I'm going to open the doors and you...
16:32Hey, Melissa.
16:33Melissa, Melissa.
16:33It's really irritating the hell out of me.
16:35Because if you're going to look in my car, I'll open the doors.
16:38You can look in through my whole car.
16:40Would you mind keeping talking to me while he's just looking around?
16:43And I'm not even saying that he's going to go in your car.
16:46But you're okay if he does?
16:47I don't have anything in there for him to...
16:49Yeah.
16:49Yeah, exactly.
16:52Oh.
16:53That looks like vomit.
16:55See this right here?
16:57Right under the phone.
16:59What is it?
17:00Oh, the blood?
17:01Yeah.
17:07There's blood in the front seat, so she got this part from him somehow.
17:14You know what?
17:15I'm not going to answer any more of your questions because...
17:17We're...
17:18You guys are...
17:18Unfortunately, you can't get back in your car right now.
17:20All right?
17:21So you can stay here and talk with me if you'd like.
17:24Ma'am, are you injured at all?
17:26Why would I be injured?
17:27What?
17:27It just looks like there's some blood in the center couch.
17:30I'll just make sure you don't need any medical attention or anything like that.
17:34Do you have any injuries that we need to know about?
17:39You're okay?
17:40Yeah.
17:45So like Detective Knopf said, there's blood in your vehicle.
17:48Do you know where it came from?
17:57Where is there blood in the car?
18:03I just want to look at it.
18:05I just want to look at it.
18:09Right by the phone.
18:11By my phone?
18:13Whatever.
18:14Who has every phone that is in the middle?
18:15That's my phone.
18:18And it looks like on the trash can as well.
18:22Oh, that might be my lipstick.
18:25So here's our concern.
18:27Our concern is that it's...
18:28It might be my lipstick.
18:30Ow.
18:32I don't think it's blood.
18:34I know it's not blood.
18:35I don't know that it's not blood.
18:38Okay.
18:45The phone is pinged.
18:47I went right back to the house.
18:52There is a silver focus in the driveway that's registered to your S1's sister, Jasmine Kucharski.
19:01All right, um, did you see any movement at the house?
19:05No.
19:06Okay.
19:10Who's over at the house right now?
19:12My daughter and her boyfriend.
19:14Jasmine is back.
19:16Okay.
19:17Step over here and talk with me, okay?
19:19I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna let you know what's going on.
19:23You can't tell my car.
19:25I gotta go to work.
19:26You'll find out if you let me talk to you.
19:29Let's go back over here so you can...
19:30No, I need to get my work stuff out of there.
19:32For my car, I need to get my purse.
19:34Melissa.
19:35What?
19:35Do you think we're out here for a PPO violation?
19:38I don't know what you are out here.
19:39I honestly don't.
19:40I really swear to God, I don't have any idea.
19:43I don't.
19:44I, I, I'm telling you the honest truth.
19:46All right.
19:47Taylor is dead.
19:48All right?
19:49And we need to find Jeff before he does something to himself.
19:53Taylor's dead?
19:54Oh, he was there.
19:55Yes.
19:56What?
19:56We're not out here for some little thing.
19:58You're, you're, you're, you're lying.
19:59I'm not lying.
20:00Oh my gosh, are you serious?
20:02Taylor's dead?
20:03Think about everything that's happened in the last hour.
20:06I love Taylor.
20:06At this point, we know that Jeff is involved and he was at your house.
20:12When was the last time you saw Jeff?
20:15I saw Jeff a couple days ago.
20:16Jeff is putting you into the point where you could be an accessory after the fact of murder.
20:21Do you understand that?
20:22I didn't, I didn't, I don't know anything.
20:23I don't know anything.
20:24Oh my gosh, I can't believe Taylor's dead.
20:28We will find him.
20:30We will arrest him for this.
20:31Do you also want to share a cell with him?
20:39Please just don't talk to me, okay?
20:41Please just don't.
20:43Do you want to call me for her?
20:45I'll tell you that.
20:49If you can get her wherever she is most convenient for her, because we're going to head to their
20:55house and deal with Jasmine and Zach and the search warrant and everything related to that.
21:02I could drop you at a hotel if you don't got family.
21:05Are you comfortable with one of the hotels?
21:07Yeah, I guess so.
21:08Okay.
21:09Before we get in the car, before they really get rolling on that thing, is Jeff going to pop
21:13out behind the door and try to stab one of us?
21:17No.
21:19I'll be there in a second.
21:29Please come to the front door with your arms in the air.
21:34Van Buren has just lit up the house, and they're doing announcements now.
21:38We'll let you know if anyone comes out.
21:46Oh, we got contact at the front door.
21:50Jasmine?
21:51Yep.
21:52Yep.
21:52Who's with you, Zach?
21:54Yep.
21:54Keep walking out.
21:58There we go.
21:59She's going to get passed out.
22:00Okay, you can pass out.
22:01Okay.
22:01Can you just put your hands on top of the truck hood?
22:03Zach, right?
22:04Okay.
22:05We would like to talk to you guys about something that happened earlier today.
22:09Do not under arrest or anything like that, and then we'll just have a conversation.
22:13Mike?
22:13Mike.
22:17Hi, Jasmine.
22:18Hi.
22:18Are you warm enough?
22:20I've got bare feet out.
22:21Okay.
22:22Sorry, I'll block the white.
22:23Can you?
22:23Um, it sounds like Jeff and Taylor kind of got into it earlier today.
22:29Have you talked to him or seen him today?
22:33She won't be called to be like 3 o'clock.
22:37That was when you last talked to him?
22:39I think so, yeah.
22:40Just for my peace of mind, would you mind showing me your phone, like the text messages and call-outs,
22:45just so I can say he hasn't texted or called her since 3 or whatever?
22:50Is he listed as Jeff?
22:53Or what's he listed under?
22:54Yeah.
22:55Is this you on this side?
22:56Yeah, I think so.
22:58There may be, yeah.
22:59So he said cops are, he said cops are here at 6.53.
23:02You said 20 minutes out.
23:04Lawyer, is this you talking to him?
23:05Yeah, I guess.
23:07He said call mom.
23:08Tell her to tell them to leave.
23:10You don't remember that?
23:12I don't know.
23:13Yes, I don't know.
23:14He was, oh my God.
23:17Now that you mention it, I'm so sorry.
23:18Yeah, I just, I just, um, he just, I guess he panics all the time about the cops when I
23:25write it off.
23:26How come you told him to get a lawyer?
23:28Because if she said he broke PPO and he didn't, or he did, then he's going to go back to
23:32jail.
23:32And if he goes back to jail for three months, he's just going to kill himself.
23:47Jasmine, is Jeff inside the house?
23:50No, I don't think so.
23:51I don't know.
23:52We've been gone all day.
23:55All right.
23:55Um, give me just a minute.
23:56I'll be right back, okay?
24:01Uh, the dad's just arriving also.
24:04I'm going to go make contact with him.
24:06Hi.
24:07Hi.
24:07Michael?
24:08Yes.
24:09All right.
24:10Um, I'm sorry.
24:12I apologize for everything that is going on here.
24:14My name is Brian Deltman.
24:15I'm detective.
24:16I know your wife reached out to you at some point.
24:19Have you talked to Jeff at all tonight?
24:22No.
24:22Um, did you have your phone with you?
24:24You know when the last time you would have spoke to him was?
24:27That would be April.
24:32Do you guys have any weapons in the house or anything like that?
24:36I, I do have, uh, my dad's gun.
24:41Uh, it's a .22.
24:43Okay.
24:44All right.
24:45Hang tight with us for a couple of minutes, okay?
24:49We can go up to the side and come across.
24:51Yep.
24:51Are you ready?
24:52Yep.
24:53Great.
24:54There's your thing here.
24:55Let me go.
24:55I'm going to go.
24:56I'm going to go.
24:58I'm going to go.
24:59Drones, airborne, overwatch, secure.
25:04Time to go overwatch.
25:08They don't spare anything.
25:09They don't hold it.
25:15They don't hold it.
25:17They don't have to go over here, guys.
25:28Kalamazoo police.
25:29Anyone inside?
25:31Come to the front door.
25:37Kalamazoo police.
25:38Jeff, come to the front door.
25:44Kalamazoo police.
25:45We have a search warrant.
25:46Anyone inside?
25:47Come to the front door.
25:54Good to go.
25:56Hit.
25:58Kalamazoo police.
25:59Search warrant.
26:00I got the hall here.
26:01She's downstairs.
26:03I'm with you on the left.
26:05Check that corner there.
26:07Slow and steady.
26:09Jeff?
26:11Jeff, public safety.
26:12Call out, bud.
26:13Wider to the right.
26:16I'm with you.
26:17Yep.
26:17I got a cat over here.
26:20Police search warrant.
26:21Police search warrant.
26:22Call out.
26:25Okay.
26:27Guessing this is the garage.
26:28Yep.
26:30I'm with you for the garage.
26:33Kalamazoo police.
26:34Search warrant.
26:35Anyone inside?
26:36Call out now.
26:38Come on, Jeff.
26:39Call out, buddy.
26:42Coat or something?
26:43Looks like a coat rack.
26:45Okay.
26:46Back there.
26:48I don't know.
26:49I don't know.
26:50Here it is.
26:53Kalamazoo police.
26:54Anyone in the garage, call out now.
27:01All right.
27:02Clear.
27:05That insulation, is there a scuttle?
27:08Look up.
27:09Yeah.
27:10There's a scuttle?
27:11Yeah.
27:12Do you see this?
27:13The insulation over here?
27:16Yep.
27:19Okay.
27:20All right.
27:21You have to step here, step there.
27:24So, he could be up there.
27:26He can definitely go.
27:27Yep.
27:28So, you might want to toss the K-9 up in.
27:31So, that's...
27:33It would be tricky to get the K-9 up there, but I will say the drone guy is talking
27:39a lot
27:39about how their drones can just go inside and clear.
27:42That might be a good thing for getting that added.
27:45All right.
27:45Yeah.
27:55Drone's coming up.
27:58Police department, call out if you're in here.
28:01Jeff, can you call out, please?
28:02Come on out.
28:09Keep going.
28:11You're going to need more height on it, man.
28:29Keep going to the right.
28:33Yeah, there he is.
28:35Yeah, he's up there.
28:38He's got a knife.
28:43Hey, Jeff.
28:44What's that in your mouth?
28:46Oh, vape?
28:47Okay.
28:49Jeff, I want you to drop that knife, okay, bud?
28:52Can you put the knife down?
28:56Right there.
28:57Jeff?
28:58Hey, listen.
28:59This is Tim.
28:59I know you're nervous.
29:00I know you're worried about what's going on, okay?
29:03We don't...
29:04We're not here to harm you or anything.
29:06We want to help.
29:07That's why we're here.
29:09I told your sister.
29:10I told your dad out front we were going to do everything we could
29:13to help you out in this situation, okay?
29:20I can tell you right now, I wholeheartedly will let you talk to your dad and your sister
29:24if you want to come down right now, okay?
29:29I'd really like it for your safety, for my partner's safety and eyes.
29:35Could we just have you come on down with me right now?
29:39Right now.
29:39Okay.
29:41Okay.
29:42Hey, Tim.
29:42Yes.
29:43Would you let Jeff know, and I know you're making great progress on that he's talking with
29:48you, but in the next couple of minutes, unfortunately, if he doesn't start to make his way down,
29:54we are going to open a hole in the garage.
29:58Okay.
30:00Jeff, that's my captain, but I would like you to just come through this hole,
30:05and then that way we can go outside and have a conversation, and I can get you some water.
30:10Could we do that right now?
30:14We're kind of not going to do the hole more time thing, okay?
30:19Unfortunately, I think this might be a little bit loud, but I just want him to be aware
30:24that we're going to be making some noise.
30:26Okay.
30:31Jeff, put the knife down.
30:32Listen to me.
30:34Listen to me.
30:35Drop the knife.
30:36Put the knife down, okay?
30:38Put the knife down.
30:41We care about you.
30:44We don't want anything to happen to you.
30:52All these gentlemen are doing is helping you get access down.
30:56Okay?
30:56Jeff, listen to me.
30:58Okay?
30:59Jeff.
31:02Hey, Jeff.
31:05Jeff.
31:05Jeff.
31:06Jeff.
31:07You got hands?
31:08Jeff.
31:08Yeah, that's pretty cool.
31:09There's a one.
31:12Jeff.
31:12Jeff, we got a hole, so come on down in that hole right there if you can.
31:15We're good.
31:16We're good.
31:17One shooter.
31:19I can't see him, so.
31:21We have coverage, so if you want to move up and take a position elevated, right behind you.
31:27Okay.
31:28All right.
31:31Jeff.
31:32The wire's out.
31:33Okay.
31:33You see me, bud?
31:34Yeah.
31:35Okay.
31:35Look at me.
31:37Okay?
31:38What is going on down here is them wanting to see that you're okay.
31:43All right?
31:44All the way up.
31:44All the way up.
31:45I want you to drop your knife.
31:47I'll give you a second.
31:48Come here, holster.
31:49Okay.
31:50I want you to drop your knife down to the floor over there by those guys.
31:55Can you do that?
31:56Just put it down in the garage.
31:59Can you do that for me?
32:00This is Ernie.
32:01I'm up.
32:01You have two people now that are in an insulated roof trying to help you to make sure you're
32:07okay.
32:08Get that to Ernie.
32:12If you just put the knife down, I'll walk over to you and we'll help you get down out of
32:20here.
32:23We can move this ladder to any of these holes at whatever's easiest.
32:29Okay.
32:30We're just moving.
32:31Can I have a shot?
32:33No.
32:34We're not even...
32:35Can I have a shot?
32:37We're not even...
32:37Okay.
32:38I'm not even pointing at you.
32:39Okay?
32:42Now that you can see it face to face, I know that light was probably blind in there.
32:46Could you just set it down for a second and see what happens and then we can just keep talking?
32:51Okay.
32:54Thank you very much, Jeff.
32:55Could you do me one more thing?
32:57What?
32:58Could you just take your hand and maybe put it on the 2x4 so that you're just not holding
33:01it?
33:01It's still right there, but you're just not holding it.
33:04Could you do that for me?
33:06You're going to shoot.
33:08You see my hands?
33:10No one even has a gun out.
33:11We're not doing that.
33:12Okay.
33:12Gun's in my holster.
33:14I'm standing here and I'm closer to you because I want you to be able to see that I'm not
33:18trying
33:19to play games with you, okay?
33:20I'm not trying to trick you.
33:21I want you to talk to us.
33:22There's no games and I'll trick you.
33:23Okay.
33:23Why can't you guys just kill me?
33:25We don't want to do that and we're not going to do that.
33:29Okay?
33:29It's going to happen.
33:32Let's go down.
33:33Let's talk to your dad.
33:35Let's talk to your sister.
33:37Just put the knife down.
33:39No.
33:40No.
33:41No.
33:41No.
33:43I know we're talking in circles but why can't you guys just f***ing die?
33:49That's not what we do.
33:49We don't do that.
33:51Why can't you just f***ing die?
33:52We don't ever give up, Jeff.
33:54We don't want to.
33:55I'd rather.
33:56At least better just be dead.
34:23Let's get him up before he goes through.
34:26Okay.
34:26Cuffs.
34:28Don't drop them.
34:29Nope.
34:29It's all right.
34:30Watch your foot, Jeff.
34:31Got an extra body?
34:32Yep.
34:33Stand up on the beam.
34:34Stand up on the beam.
34:36Hey, hey, hey.
34:37Hey, you did it.
34:38You did it.
34:39We're here.
34:40You got this.
34:42I'm doing great.
34:43Hold on.
34:44You're right.
34:45You're good.
34:45Hold on with your arms.
34:46Keep going.
34:47You got them?
34:47Yep.
34:47Keep going.
34:50Nope.
34:51Nope.
34:52Jeff, come on.
34:54Let me get the other side.
34:55Watch out.
34:57Keep walking.
34:58Keep walking, bud.
34:58You're okay.
34:59Yep.
34:59Keep walking.
35:01There you go.
35:02Nice job.
35:04Almost there.
35:05Good job.
35:06Yep.
35:06Stay going.
35:06Oh, oh, oh.
35:07Oh, oh.
35:08Yep.
35:10Watch the drywall there, guys.
35:11Yeah, it's gross.
35:12Come on.
35:12Stand up.
35:14Stand up, Jeff.
35:14Jeff, come on.
35:16Come on.
35:17Oh, oh.
35:17That's okay.
35:18Guys, can you help us?
35:19He's coming down.
35:20We can't.
35:20We raised you.
35:21Tell us we can try to catch him.
35:23I think Veld and I can probably assist in a lowering here to help with the legs.
35:27Go ahead, Jeff.
35:28You go ahead.
35:29Go ahead, bud.
35:29I got him.
35:30I got him.
35:31I got him.
35:31I got him.
35:31You're good?
35:33You're coming down.
35:33You're ready?
35:34Yep.
35:34Okay.
35:36I'm going to pass, man.
35:37Bring him around back.
35:39Yep.
35:39There you go.
35:42Yeah, Jeff.
35:43You're good.
35:44There you go.
35:45There you go.
35:45There you go.
35:48You're okay, buddy.
35:49That was awesome.
36:05I'm going to have your sister come back so you can talk to her.
36:20Are you okay with that?
36:20Yeah.
36:21You want to do that?
36:22Sure.
36:23Okay.
36:35Hey.
36:36What's up?
36:37Oh.
36:39You just...
36:39I don't...
36:40I don't know.
36:41I don't know.
36:42I love you still.
36:44I love you too.
36:45I don't know.
36:46I don't know anything.
36:49Yeah.
36:52I don't know what you want to say to me, but they let me talk to you.
36:56Yeah, I guess so.
36:57I guess just pay my bond.
36:59My bail.
37:02Call some lawyers.
37:04Well, you're genuinely insane, so I might be right on that.
37:07Yeah.
37:09Yeah.
37:09All right.
37:10We're going to get rocking.
37:12I'll be okay with you.
37:13I'll be okay with you.
37:19Jeff, I'm so glad you're sitting here talking to me.
37:22Oh, my gosh, man.
37:23You have no idea.
37:26Yeah.
37:36All right, bud.
37:38Up, I'm out.
37:39We didn't do our heavy orders here.
37:42You want a walk?
37:46Pick up.
37:48All right.
37:49Let's go up here.
37:51Sure.
37:52Close?
37:53Close.
37:54So, we obviously brought you down here so we could...
37:56sit down like men.
37:57This is an opportunity for you to give us your side of the story about what happened here today.
38:04As far as your phone, is your phone up in the attic where you were at, or is it somewhere
38:08else in the house?
38:10It's somewhere in the house.
38:11Like where?
38:12I really don't know everything.
38:14Like, when the cops came, I just ran into the attic.
38:17It's kind of just, like, blur.
38:20And you've been up in the attic since they first showed up?
38:24Yep.
38:25What car did you drive when you drove to your parents' house today?
38:29What car was that that you brought there?
38:31I used Zach and Jasmine's car.
38:33The one that was in the driveway?
38:35Yeah.
38:36Is there any chance that maybe you were in your mom's car?
38:39No.
38:40Are you sure?
38:41Mm-hmm.
38:42You think, who was in your mom's car today then?
38:44My mom?
38:46Yeah.
38:47She had to run some airing.
38:50Well, wouldn't it surprise you if I told you that that car was in Kalamazoo this afternoon?
38:56Your mom's was?
38:58I could show you.
38:58Yeah, she was probably in Kalamazoo.
39:01But she said she wasn't in Kalamazoo.
39:05Mm-hmm.
39:05We've been working since this evening, since this incident happened, but we can track exactly
39:12where you've been.
39:13And we know that you didn't take your sister's little gray car.
39:20So, obviously, we didn't just show up at your house randomly today, right?
39:25We know that you were in your mom's 2019 GMC Terrain.
39:30We know that you were over on Cork Street with Taylor.
39:35Your mom's car was right here at Cork and Old Cork.
39:39I don't remember that.
39:40You don't remember any of that?
39:41No.
39:42Okay.
39:45I don't like to speak to my lawyers.
39:47Okay.
39:48That's all right.
39:49It's absolutely fine.
39:50Yep.
39:50Okay.
39:51Yep.
39:52That's your right, Matt.
39:53So, what's next?
39:55What's next?
39:56Yep.
39:57Well, you're going to go to jail.
40:00Mm-hmm.
40:00And then this case will go before the prosecutor's office.
40:04Mm-hmm.
40:04And they'll decide what the appropriate charge is.
40:07Okay.
40:08Okay.
40:09A man charged with fatally stabbing his ex-girlfriend has entered a plea for the murder.
40:1428-year-old Taylor was stabbed in the face, head, and hands.
40:18Evidence recovered included a bloody knife and bloody clothes.
40:22And Jeffrey Kucharski pleaded guilty today to second-degree murder.
40:26He remains in jail without bond.
40:39Jeffrey Kucharski was sentenced to 60 to 100 years in prison for the murder of his ex-girlfriend, Taylor Dragovich.
40:46Her brother had this to say to Kucharski.
40:49You are a piece of garbage.
40:51And because of what you did so much this story, I can't trust people anymore.
40:56The PPO that she was granted did nothing to protect her, and he was free to lie in wait and
41:02fatally attack her when her defenses were down.
41:12We want to honor Taylor's generous spirit and beautiful soul as we bring awareness to the seriousness of domestic violence.
41:22She shouldn't be in a cemetery at 29.
41:25She should be here.
41:27So we're honoring the 28 years we were lucky enough to have her here.
41:32I miss her smile.
41:34I miss her laugh.
41:35That's the essence of her, yeah.
41:37Just that big smile, and she had it on all the time.
41:39I miss her smile, and she had it on all the time.
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