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The former US secretary of state traded barbs with Representative Nancy Mace on February 26, 2026, regarding her relationship with US commerce secretary Howard Lutnick. The Epstein files revealed Lutnick planned a visit to Epstein’s island with his family in 2012, years after he claimed to have cut ties with the sex offender.

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00:00People knew very much about at all what she was doing.
00:04And then how do you know Howard Lutnick?
00:06I know Howard Lutnick because when I was senator, on 9-11, the firm he headed, Cantor Fitzgerald,
00:15suffered the greatest loss of life.
00:18As I recall, something like 650 of his employees were murdered by terrorists that day.
00:25Howard Lutnick missed being a victim because he was delayed dropping his child off to kindergarten.
00:33You asked the question, I'm going to answer your question.
00:35This was what I spent my time doing.
00:39I'm a survivor trying to look out for other survivors.
00:42And I was taking care of the people who lost 3,000 lives at World Trade Center.
00:49You asked me about Howard Lutnick.
00:51I have met with Epstein survivors. I'm a survivor myself.
00:53You have emails. You've denied that Jeffrey Epstein, that you tried to get Jeffrey Epstein to give money to you.
00:58But Howard Lutnick was used to be money.
01:00If you have an email with me asking Jeffrey Epstein for money.
01:02I have an email from Howard Lutnick sending it to Jeffrey Epstein and his people to raise money for you.
01:08I don't know about it.
01:09For an event, an intimate event for you at his offices at Cantor Fitzgerald.
01:13You're going to sit here today and obfuscate and say to this committee,
01:17you didn't try to get money from Jeffrey Epstein when there was an intimate event in an email
01:22that Howard Lutnick emailed to Epstein's people and Epstein to get him to come to your intimate event
01:28at Cantor Fitzgerald, a very small event.
01:30And so I'm not going to put it.
01:32You want to yell at me, that's fine, but I'll yell right back.
01:34Well, I am looking out for survivors.
01:35I'm doing the job that you would not do and refuse to do as Secretary of State.
01:39Thank you, and I yield back to you.
01:40No, I'm going to finish answering the question, which I have a right to do.
01:45I am very sympathetic to your personal situation.
01:51I have read about it.
01:52I have seen you testify or speak on the floor about it.
01:56And I very much sympathize with not only what you went through,
02:01but appreciate your effort to stand up for survivors.
02:05I was a senator representing the people who were murdered on 9-11.
02:12Nobody lost more people than Howard Lutnick.
02:15You can say whatever you want.
02:16You can call him and have him appear before the committee.
02:19But I knew him.
02:20I knew him as the man who lost the employees that he knew intimately, including his brother.
02:29So I worked.
02:31Let her finish your answer, please.
02:32Let her finish your answer.
02:33You know what?
02:35If you don't want to hear what emotionally affected me, that's fine.
02:40But that's why I know Howard Lutnick.
02:42I went to the memorial service every 9-11 after the formal service was held.
02:49I see what you're doing here.
02:50With all of his people, the family.
02:54Between you and Jeffrey Epstein raising money.
02:55Well, you know, Howard Lutnick and I did work together because we had a lot of victims
03:00to take care of.
03:02And we worked together to rebuild downtown Manhattan.
03:06That is how I know Howard Lutnick.
03:09That is how I know Howard Lutnick.
03:09Das is how I know Howard Lutnick.
03:12Have a lot of fun.
03:12See a lot.
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