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Former President Rodrigo Duterte's defense team has highlighted what it considers as loopholes in the prosecution’s arguments on the last day of ICC Confirmation of Charges.
Among them is the alleged lack of evidence to directly link Duterte to the killings, which it describes as legitimate police operations.
Defense also calls the prosecution’s evidences weak and insufficient to prove that Duterte ordered extrajudicial killings.
Lead counsel Nicholas Kaufman also claims more people have died since President Bongbong Marcos took office.
But the data Kaufman cited to support this allegation is allegedly misrepresented according to data source 'Dahas Project' of the University of the Philippines Third World Studies Center.
Meanwhile, Malacañang says the president does not support a violent war on drugs and respects due process.
Duterte's defense moves to have the complaint re-submitted, the charges of crimes against humanity — murder and attempted murder — dismissed, and Duterte temporarily released.
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Among them is the alleged lack of evidence to directly link Duterte to the killings, which it describes as legitimate police operations.
Defense also calls the prosecution’s evidences weak and insufficient to prove that Duterte ordered extrajudicial killings.
Lead counsel Nicholas Kaufman also claims more people have died since President Bongbong Marcos took office.
But the data Kaufman cited to support this allegation is allegedly misrepresented according to data source 'Dahas Project' of the University of the Philippines Third World Studies Center.
Meanwhile, Malacañang says the president does not support a violent war on drugs and respects due process.
Duterte's defense moves to have the complaint re-submitted, the charges of crimes against humanity — murder and attempted murder — dismissed, and Duterte temporarily released.
24 Oras is GMA Network’s flagship newscast, anchored by Mel Tiangco, Vicky Morales and Emil Sumangil. It airs on GMA-7 Mondays to Fridays at 6:30 PM (PHL Time) and on weekends at 5:30 PM. For more videos from 24 Oras, visit http://www.gmanews.tv/24oras.
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00:00After the argument of defense,
00:04it is a confirmation of charges
00:07by the President of Duterte
00:09at the International Criminal Court.
00:11In the afternoon,
00:12the President of Duterte
00:12is not enough evidence
00:17for the prosecution
00:18for the prosecution
00:19of the President of Duterte.
00:23The President of Duterte
00:29and the President of Duterte
00:33and the President of Duterte
00:33and the President of Duterte
00:34at the President of Duterte
00:35and the President of Duterte
00:38Sabi ni Defense Lead Counsel
00:40Nicholas Kaufman,
00:41hindi daw napatunayan
00:42ang prosecution
00:43na may napagkasundo
00:45ang common plan
00:45si dating Pangulong
00:47Rodrigo Duterte
00:47at mga binanggit
00:49na co-perpetrator
00:50at may intensyong kriminal
00:51sa pagpapatupad nito.
00:52Hindi daw patunay nito
00:54ang tinukoy ng prosecution
00:55na memo noon
00:56ni dating PNP Chief
00:57at ngayon Sen. Ronald Bato de la Rosa
00:59kaugnay sa Oplan Tukhang.
01:01If the prosecution's case
01:04for the common plan
01:07in counts two
01:08and three
01:10is based on command circular
01:13number 16
01:14of 2016
01:17we might as well
01:19pack up
01:20and go home
01:21because Mr. Duterte
01:23is simply not guilty.
01:25Inilatag din ang depensa
01:26ang kahinaan o manon
01:27ng mga ebidensya
01:28ng prosecution
01:29para patunayan
01:30na ang dating Pangulo
01:31ang kumamada
01:32leader
01:33at nag-utos
01:34ng mga extrajudicial killings
01:35nung mayor siya
01:36ng Davao City
01:37hanggang maging presidente.
01:38kabilang dyan
01:40ang paggamit ng testimony
01:41ng mga aniyay
01:42self-confessed murderers.
01:43According to the prosecution
01:45members of the Davao
01:47Deaf Squad
01:47had to seek
01:48clearance
01:49from Mr. Duterte
01:51to conduct killings
01:53in Davao City.
01:56For this wild assertion
01:58the prosecution relies
01:59once again
02:00on the evidence
02:02of criminals
02:04it has recruited.
02:06all of whom
02:08are inherently
02:09unreliable
02:10because of their being
02:12self-confessed
02:13vicious murderers
02:14testifying
02:16in return
02:17for virtual
02:17immunity
02:18from proceedings
02:20at the ICC.
02:21Kinwestion din
02:22ni Kaufman
02:23ang pagpili ng mga testigo
02:24ng prosecution
02:25sa tulong daw
02:26ng ilang tao
02:26dito sa bansa.
02:27I also talked
02:28about a recorded
02:29telephone conversation
02:31in which
02:32one of the participants
02:34bragged
02:35about acting
02:37as President
02:38Marcos Jr.'s
02:39silent partner
02:40for channeling
02:42witnesses
02:43to the ICC.
02:44This is what
02:45this covertly recorded
02:47individual
02:47who I'm forbidden
02:48from naming
02:49said.
02:53They cooperate
02:54through me
02:55since I don't
02:56hold a position.
02:58redacted.
02:59But we are able
03:00to do it.
03:01So what?
03:03What happened
03:04here is
03:05an ICC
03:05investigator
03:06will give me
03:08a list of
03:08witnesses,
03:10documents
03:10they need
03:11to bolster the
03:12case against Duterte,
03:14then I
03:15provide it.
03:16I give it
03:17to the different
03:18agencies
03:18so it can be
03:20approved.
03:21There are
03:21witnesses who
03:22need a pardon.
03:24I get the
03:25authority from
03:25the President.
03:26and they are
03:27granted a
03:28pardon.
03:29Basically,
03:31like that,
03:32it becomes a
03:33priority mission
03:34of the government.
03:34Mali
03:35rin daw ang intending
03:36ng prosekusyon
03:37na ang ibig sabihin
03:38ng to neutralize
03:39ay katumbas
03:40ng pagpatay
03:41base sa memo
03:42ni Chief PNP Bato
03:43De La Rosa
03:43pag-upo
03:44noong July 2016.
03:46Nay paliwanag
03:47naman daw ni De La Rosa
03:48sa isang memo
03:48na ang neutralization
03:50ay pag-arresto
03:51o pagpapatigil
03:52sa mga suspect
03:52kahit daw
03:53sariling testigo
03:54ng prosekusyon
03:55ay ganito sinabi.
03:56witnesses P1158
03:59and P1170
04:02explained
04:04that neutralize
04:06means to arrest
04:08or to incarcerate
04:11through legal means
04:13it did not mean
04:15to kill.
04:19witnesses P1050
04:20and P1174
04:25confirmed that lethal force
04:27arose only
04:29where a suspect's
04:31resistance
04:32placed an officer's
04:33life at risk.
04:35Your Honours,
04:36taken together,
04:37the manual,
04:39the public clarifications
04:41by police leadership,
04:43the state's position
04:44before the highest
04:45court in the Philippines
04:47and even the prosecution's
04:50own corroborative
04:52witness testimony,
04:53all of this material
04:56demonstrates a coherent
04:58and consistent
05:00understanding
05:01that neutralization
05:03was articulated
05:06as lawful incapacitation
05:09through arrest
05:10and related measures
05:12not as a policy
05:15of killing.
05:16Imposible rin daw
05:17ang akusasyon
05:18na widespread
05:18o malawakan
05:19ang mga pagpatay
05:20na inaakusa
05:21kay Duterte.
05:22Base raw mismo
05:23sa datos ng PIDEA
05:24kumpara sa bilang
05:25ng mga naaresto,
05:26mas maliit
05:27ang bilang ng mga namatay
05:28sa mga anti-drug operations.
05:30Ginamit ni Coffman
05:31ginamit ni Coffman
05:31ang datos na mula
05:32sa prosekusyon
05:33dahil may hindi raw
05:34isinama.
05:35She neglected
05:36to contextualize
05:37these numbers
05:38by reference
05:39to other parts
05:40of the same report
05:41which show
05:42that in comparison
05:43to the number
05:44of arrests
05:45and operations conducted,
05:48the number of deaths
05:49are minimal.
05:50Ibinaling din ni Coffman
05:52ang atensyon
05:52kay Pangulong
05:53Bombong Marcos
05:54dahil marami rin
05:55umano ang napatay
05:56sa bansa
05:56mula nung umupo siya.
05:57Clearly,
06:00I'm forced to ask myself
06:02whether anyone
06:04on the other side
06:05of this room
06:06has thought of investigating
06:08the Marcos regime
06:09and the related phenomenon
06:12and holding someone accountable.
06:15Why are my colleagues
06:16sitting to their right,
06:18the victim's representatives,
06:20not clamouring
06:21for accountability
06:22for those deaths?
06:24Or is it of no consequence
06:27now that Mr. Duterte
06:28is sitting
06:29in the ICC
06:30Detention Center?
06:32Sabi ni Coffman,
06:34may option
06:34ang pretrial chamber
06:35na hindi niya
06:36inererekomenda.
06:37Ito ay ang pagbabalik
06:38ng charges
06:38sa prosekusyon
06:39para i-resubmit
06:40ang mga ito.
06:41Pero kung gagawin daw ito,
06:43dapat din pakawalan
06:44pansamantala
06:45si Duterte.
06:46There is no
06:46ascertainable
06:47chain of command
06:48descending from
06:50Duterte
06:50at the top
06:52via the
06:53co-perpetrators,
06:55so-called
06:55co-perpetrators,
06:57all the way down
06:58to the crime base.
06:59And I would ask you,
07:01very respectfully,
07:02not to exercise
07:03your discretion,
07:04to re-qualify
07:07pursuant to
07:08Regulation 55,
07:11the Regulations
07:12of the Court.
07:14But if you do,
07:17if you do,
07:18and you shouldn't,
07:19I respectfully submit,
07:21you should order
07:22the prosecution
07:24to resubmit
07:25its document containing
07:26the charges
07:28and its
07:29pre-confirmation brief
07:30as amended
07:32and to release
07:33Mr. Duterte
07:34in the interim.
07:35Pero kung ang depensa
07:36ang tatanungin,
07:37hindi na dapat umakyat pa
07:39sa paglilitis
07:39ang mga reklamo.
07:40The defence
07:41firmly submits
07:42that the pretrial
07:44chamber
07:44should not commit
07:45any one of the
07:4749 incidents
07:48to trial
07:48unless it concludes
07:50that there are
07:51substantial grounds
07:52to believe
07:53that Mr. Duterte's
07:55criminal linkage
07:55and liability
07:57has been established
07:59for each one.
08:03When these 49 incidents
08:06are disaggregated
08:10and examined
08:11one by one
08:12as the statute
08:14requires,
08:14we submit,
08:16what becomes apparent
08:17is not
08:18the cumulative strength,
08:22rather the recurrence
08:23of certain symptoms
08:26of inherent weakness
08:27in the evidence.
08:29Mula rito sa The Hague,
08:31Netherlands,
08:32para sa GMA Integrated News,
08:34Marise Umali,
08:34Nakatutok,
08:3524 Horas.
08:37Kinwestiyon sa ICC
08:39ng abogado
08:40ni dating Pangulong
08:41Rodrigo Duterte,
08:42ang hindi umano
08:44pag-usig sa anya
08:45ay mataas na bilang
08:46ng pagpatay
08:48kaugnay ng droga
08:49sa ilalim
08:50ng administration
08:51Marcos.
08:52Ibinata yan
08:53sa report
08:53ng grupong
08:54The Haas Project
08:56ng University
08:57of the Philippines
08:58Third World Studies
08:59Center
09:00na pumalag
09:01sa maluktot
09:02o manong interpretasyon
09:04sa datos.
09:05Nakatutok
09:06si Joseph Moro.
09:11Kung inuusig daw
09:12para sa pagpatay
09:13dahil sa drug war
09:14si dating Pangulong
09:15Rodrigo Duterte
09:16sa International Criminal Court,
09:18bakit hindi rin daw
09:19si Pangulong Bongong Marcos?
09:20Ito ang tanong
09:21ng abogado
09:22ni Duterte
09:22si Nicholas Kaufman.
09:24Gamit ang report
09:24ng grupong
09:25The Haas Project
09:26ng UP Third World Studies Center,
09:28katwira ni Kaufman
09:29sa unang taon daw
09:30ng Marcos administration,
09:32may napatay
09:32na 342
09:33sa mga drug operations,
09:36160 sa mga ito raw
09:37sa kamay ng mga
09:38state agents
09:39o mga law enforcement
09:40agencies
09:41at ang bilang
09:42patuli raw
09:43na tumataas.
09:44I'm pretty sure
09:45that if they were
09:47to recreate them
09:48for the period
09:49of two years
09:50after Duterte
09:51left power
09:53they wouldn't have
09:54room left
09:55on their computer screen.
09:56The numbers
09:57would be so sky high.
09:59Why are my colleagues
09:59sitting to their
10:00right?
10:02The victims representatives
10:03not clamouring
10:04for accountability
10:06for those deaths?
10:07Or is it of no consequence?
10:10Now that Mr Duterte
10:11is sitting
10:12in the ICC
10:14Detention Center.
10:16Pumalag ang grupong
10:17Dahas Project
10:18sa sinabi ni Kaufman
10:19na binaluktot daw
10:20ang interpretasyon
10:21ng kanilang datos.
10:22Sa datos nila
10:24nasa lampas
10:24300 taon-taon
10:26ang naitala nilang
10:27pagpatay
10:27kaunay ng droga
10:28sa ilalim ng
10:29Administrasyong Marcos
10:30base sa mga ulat
10:31sa media.
10:32Mas mababa
10:33sa lampas
10:33500 naitala
10:34ang pagpatay
10:35sa huling taon
10:36ng Duterte
10:37administration
10:38noong taong 2021.
10:39Ang hindi namin matanggap
10:40ay yung sabihin niyang sky high,
10:42numero.
10:43Kasi malinaw
10:44kung ginamit niya talaga
10:45ng makatotohanan
10:46yung ulat
10:48ng gawa namin
10:49ay pinapakita nga
10:50ang patuloy
10:51na pagbaba
10:53ng numero,
10:54patuloy
10:54na pagbaba
10:55ng bahagda
10:56ng participation
10:57ng kapulisan
10:58dun sa mga pagpatay
10:59na ito.
11:00Sa pagsasaliksik
11:01sa pagsasaliksik
11:01naman ang GMA
11:02Integrated News Research
11:03kung paghahambingin
11:04ang bilang
11:05ng mga namatay
11:06noong sa parehong
11:07unang tatlong taon
11:08ng Duterte
11:09at Marcos
11:13PIN Drug Enforcement Agency
11:14OPDEA
11:15malayo ang pagkakaiba.
11:17Ayon sa dahas project
11:19ng Third World Study Center
11:20ng UP
11:21may pagkakaiba
11:22ang drug war
11:22ng Administrasyon Duterte
11:24at Marcos.
11:25Yung panahon ng Duterte
11:27administration
11:28ay talagang naging
11:30napakatalamak.
11:31Gustong magproceed
11:32ng Administrasyon Marcos
11:34sa kanyang drug war
11:36via propaganda.
11:37Ang naging spin
11:38ng Administrasyon
11:39ay sabihin
11:39wala naman na talagang namamatay
11:41which is
11:42utterly, factually, wrong.
11:45Meron pa rin.
11:46Mas konti lang
11:47mas konti lang
11:48pero nagpapatuloy.
11:49Kaya hamon
11:50ng Dahas Project
11:51maglabas ng opisyal
11:52na datos pa
11:53ang pamahalaan
11:54kasabay ng pag-iimbestika pa rin
11:55sa mga nangyaring patayan.
11:58Hanggat hindi bumababa
11:59sa talagang
12:00totoong
12:01bloodless drug war ito
12:02eh kinakailangan
12:03patuloy natin
12:03itong tutukan.
12:04Kasi
12:05yung
12:07pagkarami-raming
12:07pagpatay
12:08at itong
12:09kumukunting pagpatay
12:10pagpatay pa rin pareho.
12:11Sagot dyan ang Malacanang.
12:13Ang Pangulo
12:14alam po natin
12:15ayaw po
12:17na marahas
12:18na paglaban
12:20sa iligal na droga.
12:22Kung ito po
12:23ay mabibigyan
12:25ng
12:26ebidensya
12:28at
12:29meron talagang
12:30dapat
12:31na mapanagot
12:31ang PNP po
12:33CIDG
12:35NBI
12:36kinakailangang
12:38mag-imbestiga rito
12:40kung
12:41mayroong
12:42sapat
12:43na ebidensya.
12:44Hindi po
12:45palalagpasin
12:46ng Pangulo
12:47ang mga
12:48abusado.
12:49Dagdag pa ng Malacanang
12:50sa drug war rao
12:52ng Marquez
12:52administration
12:53nirirespeto
12:54ang due process.
12:55Even before
12:56ang sabi ng Pangulo
12:58walang dugong
12:59dadanak.
13:01Hindi po niya
13:02ginugusto
13:03ang extrajudicial killings.
13:05Kailangan
13:06madinig din po
13:06ang mga taong
13:07inaakusahan.
13:09Hindi po
13:10kinakailangang
13:11ipapatay agad
13:13nang hindi sila
13:13nadidinig.
13:15Hindi po yan
13:16at wala po sa
13:17konstitusyon natin
13:18ang sanitang
13:19death penalty.
13:20Hindi po ito
13:21pinapatupad
13:21sa bansa natin.
13:22Para sa GMA Integrated News,
13:24Joseph Morong,
13:25nakatutok 24 oras.
13:27Sa pagtatapos
13:29ng presentasyon
13:30ng depensa
13:31sa confirmation
13:32of charges
13:33hearing
13:33kay dating Pangulong
13:34Rodrigo Duterte
13:35sa ICC,
13:37kabilang
13:38sa kanilang ipinunto
13:39ang ilang butas
13:41umano
13:41sa mga argumento
13:42ng prosecution.
13:44Idiniin nila
13:45ang paulit-ulit
13:46nilang sinasabi
13:47na walang
13:48nag-uugnay
13:49kay Duterte
13:50sa mga pagpatay
13:51na tinawag nilang
13:52legal
13:53na operasyon
13:54ng pulisya.
13:56Wala pa rin
13:56sa dahil
13:57nakatutok
13:58live
13:58si Maridumari.
14:00Marid?
14:04Mel,
14:05sa ikaapat
14:05at huling araw
14:06ng confirmation
14:06of charges hearing
14:07para kay dating Pangulong
14:08Rodrigo Duterte
14:09dito sa International Criminal Court
14:11ay tinapos na nga
14:12ng depensa
14:13ang kanilang submission
14:14on the merits
14:16of the charge
14:16para sa kasong
14:17crimes against humanity
14:18of murder
14:19and attempted murder
14:20laban kay Duterte
14:21at sa pagkakataong ito,
14:23binasag ng depensa
14:24mga argumento
14:25ng prosecution
14:25sa counts 2
14:27at 3
14:27ng naturang kaso.
14:33Sa pagpapatuloy
14:34sa pagpapatuloy
14:34ng submission
14:35on the merits
14:35of the charge,
14:36tinukoy ng depensa
14:37ang count 2
14:38tungkol sa pagpaslang
14:39umano sa high value
14:40targets o HVT.
14:42Ayon kay Kaufman,
14:43may preliminary
14:44observation
14:45ng depensa
14:45na ginagamit umano
14:46ng prosekusyon
14:47ang terminong HVT
14:49na parabang
14:50isa na itong ebedensya
14:51ng isang kriminal
14:52na plano,
14:53isang inference
14:54na anila'y hindi
14:55maaaring panghawakat.
14:56Gayet ng depensa,
14:57ang HVT
14:58ay hindi nage-establish
14:59ng isang criminal plan
15:01at hindi rin umano
15:02ito code
15:02o instruction
15:03para pumatay.
15:04Aniya,
15:05ang HVT ay isang
15:07prioritization lamang
15:07ng mga target
15:08sa ilalim ng law enforcement
15:09operations
15:10at hindi isang pre-ordained
15:12o nakaplanong pagpatay.
15:13Kinontra rin ang depensa
15:15ang paratang
15:15na ang mga nasawi
15:16ay bunga ng planong pagpatay.
15:18In response
15:19to a imminent threat,
15:20in accordance
15:21with the rules of engagement
15:23repeatedly articulated
15:25by President Duterte.
15:27Namely,
15:29that lethal force
15:30was permissible
15:31only
15:32where life was in danger.
15:35Across the
15:36Count 2 incidents,
15:37there exist
15:38contemporaneous documents
15:39whether it be
15:40arrest warrants,
15:41operational records,
15:42or firearms
15:43recovery reports,
15:44all of which
15:46reflect legitimate
15:47police operations
15:48that escalated
15:50into exchanges
15:51of gunfire.
15:53The general record
15:54does not substantiate
15:56a theory of
15:57wanton execution.
15:59Yet,
15:59the prosecution
16:00seeks to rely
16:01once again
16:02on the testimony
16:03of criminals
16:04spilling their hearts
16:06with a tacit understanding
16:07that they will never
16:08be prosecuted.
16:09Binanggit din ang depensa
16:11na sa apat
16:12sa limang insidente,
16:13may narecover
16:14ng mga baril
16:14sa crime scene,
16:15mga armas
16:16na ginamit daw
16:17laban sa mga polis.
16:18Sa mga incidents
16:1913, 14,
16:20at 15,
16:21may natagpo ang gunpowder residue
16:22sa mga kamay
16:23ng mga biktima
16:24na ayon sa depensa
16:25ay hindi umaakma
16:26sa teorya
16:27ng execution.
16:28Sa incident
16:2914,
16:30buhay ang target,
16:31ibig sabihin selective
16:32and not indiscriminate
16:34use of force
16:35ang nangyari.
16:35Four individuals
16:37were arrested alive.
16:38To us,
16:40that demonstrates
16:41selective
16:41and not indiscriminate
16:43use of force.
16:44In incidents
16:4610,
16:4713,
16:47and 14,
16:49gunpowder residue
16:50was detected
16:51on the victim's hands.
16:52At a minimum,
16:54that forensic finding
16:55is consistent
16:56with an exchange
16:57of gunfire
16:58and not consistent
17:00with a straightforward
17:01execution narrative.
17:03Pinunarin ni Kaufman
17:04ng isang testimony
17:05na nagsasabing
17:05may mga baril
17:06na itinanim lamang
17:07sa crime scene.
17:08Ayon sa kanya,
17:09ito raw ay isang
17:10uncorroborated
17:11insider testimony.
17:12Hindi direktang
17:13nasaksihan
17:14ang pagtatanim ng baril
17:15at isa lamang
17:16umanong palagay
17:17o assumption.
17:18Kaugnay ng incident
17:1911,
17:19giit ng depensa
17:20na nakasandig lamang
17:21ang paratang
17:22sa voice recognition
17:23na sinasabing mula
17:24sa dating Pangulong
17:25Rodrigo Duterte.
17:26And this linkage
17:27rests entirely
17:28on voice recognition
17:30by an individual
17:31who claims
17:33to have overheard
17:34a telephone conversation
17:35and recognised
17:36the president's voice
17:37while being physically
17:39moved from one location
17:41to another.
17:43The alleged recipient
17:45of the telephone call
17:46himself was never interviewed
17:48and another person present
17:51on whom the prosecution
17:52relies for a corroboration
17:55did not hear the conversation.
17:57After all,
17:59would it not have been
18:00an item of interest
18:01to all those present
18:03in that specific location
18:04that the president
18:06of the Republic himself
18:07had condescended
18:09to discuss matters
18:10of such a criminal nature
18:11by way of telephone.
18:14So,
18:15the ridiculous assertion
18:16stands solely
18:17on the word
18:18of one single individual.
18:21The only other
18:23corroborating witness,
18:24the one who heard nothing,
18:26acknowledged
18:27a personal resentment
18:28that he harbored
18:29for the then president,
18:31Rodrigo Duterte.
18:32Sa pagkamatay
18:33ni Albuera Mayor
18:34Rolando Espinosa
18:35at Raul Yaf
18:36na binaril
18:37sa loob ng kanilang selda,
18:38sinabi ng depensa
18:39na hindi raw ito
18:40maaaring iugnay
18:41kay Duterte.
18:41Rodrigo Duterte
18:42gave Espinosa
18:44a 24-hour ultimatum
18:47to surrender.
18:48And surrender
18:49he did
18:49the following day.
18:51Four days later,
18:53Rodrigo Duterte
18:54commended Espinosa
18:55for surrendering
18:56to Ronald de la Rosa,
18:58commenting
18:58that it was
18:59just as well
19:00that he did.
19:01So, if we look at it
19:02from the point of view
19:03of Rodrigo Duterte,
19:05that is where
19:06the incident ended,
19:07despite Mr. Jeremy exhorting
19:09us to believe otherwise.
19:13What happened thereafter,
19:15as awful as it may be,
19:17had nothing to do
19:18with our client.
19:19And not one witness
19:21can say that.
19:22Kaugnay naman
19:41turned out positive
19:42on the person
19:43of one of the victims
19:44indicating that
19:46he had discharged
19:47a firearm,
19:49something totally
19:50negating the gun plant
19:52theory proposed
19:53by the prosecution's
19:54only witness.
19:56It is also worth
19:57stressing that
19:58four individuals
19:59were arrested alive
20:01following the operation,
20:02and that one of them
20:03was subsequently
20:04sentenced to life
20:05imprisonment
20:06after the domestic courts
20:08rejected claims
20:09of evidence planting.
20:12That fact alone
20:13is not consistent
20:14with a theory
20:15of indiscriminate execution,
20:17but is rather consistent
20:19instead
20:19with arrest
20:21and prosecution
20:22within the boundaries
20:23of the law
20:24and not
20:26indiscriminate
20:26use of force.
20:27Ayon sa kanila,
20:29ang mga operasyon
20:29ay isa nagawa
20:30sa utility level
20:31o antas
20:32ng mga operatiba
20:33sa ibaba,
20:33at hindi bunga
20:34ng isang utos
20:35o direktiba
20:36mula sa pinakamataas
20:37na antas
20:38ng pamunuan.
20:39Sa pagtalakay
20:39ng depensa
20:40sa count 3
20:41na tumutukoy
20:42sa mga barangay
20:42clearance operations,
20:44tinoon nila
20:44ang pansin
20:45sa paratang
20:45ng prosekusyon
20:46na ang mga target
20:47umano ay tinutukoy
20:48sa pamamagitan
20:49ng isang listahan.
20:54ng mga pinaghihinala
20:55ang sangpot
20:56sa droga
20:56dahil bahagi raw ito
20:57ng lehitimong intelligence
20:59at law enforcement process.
21:01Hindi rin daw
21:01napatunayan
21:02na ang mga
21:03nasabing insidente
21:04ay bahagi
21:04ng isang sistematiko
21:05at planadong atake
21:07laban sa mga sibilyan.
21:08Ipinunto ng depensa
21:09na sa mayorya
21:11ng mga insidente
21:11ang paggamit
21:12ng puwersa
21:13ay sumailalim
21:14sa administrative review
21:15at hindi isinagawa
21:16sa paraang palihim
21:17o clandestine.
21:18To another.
21:20The alleged recipient
21:22may help
21:23pinunarin ang depensa
21:25ang mga parata
21:25na maraming mga
21:26menor de edad
21:27ang napatay
21:28sa drug war.
21:30Sabi ni Kaufman
21:31ay maliban
21:32kay Kian de los Santos
21:34ay wala raw
21:35napatunayan
21:36iba pang mga biktimang
21:38minor de edad.
21:39Ayon sa depensa
21:40walang naipresentang
21:40mga birth certificate
21:41o iba pang corroborative evidence
21:43upang patunayan
21:44ang mga paratang
21:45na may iba pang mga bata.
21:47Dagdag pa ni Kaufman
21:48may mga direktiba
21:49o manong mula
21:49sa mas matataas
21:50na opisyal
21:51na huwag isangkot
21:52o targetin
21:53ang mga minor de edad
21:54sa mga operasyon.
21:55Ang hinihingi email
21:56ng depensa ay
21:57i-dismiss ang kasong
21:58crimes against humanity
21:59of murder
22:00and attempted murder
22:01laban kay dating Pangulong
22:02Rodrigo Duterte.
22:03Ito raw ay dahil
22:04mahina ang ebidensya
22:04ng prosekusyon.
22:05Labis daw itong umasa
22:07sa testimonya
22:07ng mga kriminal
22:08na hindi raw reliable.
22:09Hearsay daw ang ilang pahayag
22:11dahil narinig lamang ito
22:12ng saksi sa ibang mga tao.
22:14Hindi kinilala
22:15ang ilang mga umano'y biktima
22:16kaya di raw
22:17makumpirma ng depensa
22:18ang mga insidente.
22:19Ang mga dokumentong
22:20ipinresinta ay sumasalungat
22:22sa testimonya ng witness.
22:23Misstated ang mga statistics
22:25o mali ang mga bilang.
22:26May pagkakataon pa raw
22:27na magkakaiba pa
22:29ang sinasabi ng mga testigo
22:30at wala raw ebidensya
22:31para iugnay nga
22:32si Duterte
22:33sa mga hitmen
22:34na nagsagawa
22:34ng pagpatay.
22:35Mel, binigyan din din
22:37ng depensa
22:38ang prinsipyong
22:39in dubio pro reo.
22:41Ibig sabihin,
22:42kapag may mga pagdududa
22:44ito ay dapat pabor
22:45sa akusado.
22:46Samantala, Mel,
22:47sa mga sandaling ito
22:48ay 12.20 na
22:50ng hapon dito.
22:52Nagpapatuloy
22:52yung sesyon
22:53at sa sandaling ito
22:55ang prosekusyon
22:56at susundan naman
22:57ng common legal representatives
22:58for victims
22:59ang magbibigay
23:00ng kanilang closing statements.
23:01At mamaya,
23:02alas 2 ng hapon
23:03dito sa The Hague
23:04ang magbibigay naman
23:05ng closing statements
23:06ay ang depensa
23:07at matatapos na
23:09ang hearing na yan.
23:10Mag-a-adjourn na.
23:11Pero masusundan pa ito
23:12ng isa pang hearing
23:13mula 2.30
23:14hanggang 3.30.
23:15Ito naman ay para
23:16sa review of detention.
23:17Ibig sabihin,
23:19kung nasusunod pa ba
23:21yung mga grounds
23:22kung dapat bang manatili
23:23o hindi manatili
23:24sa detention
23:25si dating Pangulong
23:26Rodrigo Duterte.
23:27At sa pagtatapos nito,
23:29walang desisyon
23:30na ilalabas ang korte
23:31kaugnay sa review
23:33of detention
23:33na hearing na ito.
23:35So, yan ang pinakasariwang
23:36balita
23:37mula pa rin dito
23:38sa International Criminal Court.
23:39Balik sa'yo, Mel.
23:40At ang tabayanan namin
23:42ng mga karagdagang ulat
23:43tungkol dyan,
23:44maraming salamat sa'yo.
23:46Mati sumali.
23:56Sa kabila ng mga punanang
23:58defense team
23:59ni dating Pangulong
23:59Rodrigo Duterte,
24:01kumpiyansa ang Office
24:02of Public Counsel
24:03for Victims
24:04ng ICC
24:04na sapat ang mga inilatag
24:06ng prosecution team
24:07para matuloy
24:08sa paglilitis ang kaso.
24:09Gate nila,
24:11hindi isolated
24:12ang naitalang
24:13libu-libong
24:13na matay
24:14sa drug war.
24:15Nakatutok si Mariz
24:17Umali.
24:20Kahit pa ilang beses
24:21binabasag ng depensang
24:23argumento ng prosekusyon
24:24sa submission
24:25on merits nito
24:25sa ikatlong araw
24:26ng confirmation of charges
24:27hearing,
24:28kumpiyansa
24:29si Office of Public Counsel
24:30for Victims Head
24:31Paulina Masida
24:32na may sapat na basehan
24:34para makumpirma
24:35ang mga asunto
24:36laban kay dating
24:36Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte
24:37at tumulak
24:39sa trial proper.
24:39I think that the prosecution
24:42made a very good presentation
24:44in relation to all the elements
24:47of the crimes,
24:49not only in terms of the theory
24:53and how to apply the notion
24:55of widespread and systematic attack
24:57and crimes against humanity,
24:59but also at the level of concrete evidence
25:02showing a pattern in the killings,
25:05showing how Mr. Duterte
25:07was implicated
25:08in the patterns,
25:09showing the policy.
25:11Pag-iit ng depensa,
25:13nabiguraw ang prosekusyon
25:14na maipakita
25:15ang direktang ugnayan
25:16ng mga hitman
25:17sa dating Pangulo
25:18at tinawag na mahina
25:19ang kalidad
25:20ng ebedensya.
25:20Pero sabi ni Masida,
25:22inaasahan na raw nila
25:23ang ganitong estrategiya ng depensa.
25:25I think this is again
25:27a technique,
25:28a way in which the defense
25:31wants to portray the evidence.
25:34Tinututulan din ang depensa
25:36ang interpretasyon
25:37ng prosekusyon
25:37sa salitang neutralize
25:39na anilay nangangahulugan lamang
25:41ng pag-aresto
25:41o pagpigil
25:42at hindi pagpatay.
25:44Ngunit ayon kay Masida,
25:45ibang nakita
25:46at narinig nilang mga salaysay
25:48mula sa mga biktima.
25:59Iginiit din ang depensa
26:00na walang iisa
26:01o coordinated criminal plan
26:03at maaaring mga rogue acts lamang
26:05ang ilan sa mga insidente.
26:07Tinutulan nito ni Masida.
26:09Aniya,
26:10may ebedensya
26:10nagpapakita ng targeting
26:11ng isang tiyak na sibilya
26:13na populasyon.
26:14These crimes
26:15and these killings
26:16were certainly not isolated
26:17or spontaneous.
26:18We are talking
26:19of thousands of killings.
26:21Kaugnay naman sa taon
26:22ng pagrepaso sa detention,
26:24ipinaliwanag na may obligasyon
26:25ang pre-trial chamber
26:26na suriin kung nananatili
26:28ang mga batayan
26:29ng pagkakakulong
26:30gaya ng panganib
26:31ng pagtakas
26:32o pakikialam
26:33sa mga saksi.
26:34Ngunit ayon kay Masida,
26:35dahil kakadaos lamang
26:37ng confirmation hearing
26:38at napagpasyahan na rin dati
26:40na nananatili ang mga kondisyon,
26:41wala raw bagong sirkumstansyang
26:43magbibigay daan
26:44sa paglaya.
26:45Mula rito sa The Hague,
26:46Netherlands,
26:47para sa GMA Integrated News,
26:48Mariz Umali,
26:49Nakatutok, 24 Horas.
26:52In good spirits naman,
26:54si dating Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte
26:56ay sa kanyang abogado
26:58na mag-usap daw sila
26:59nitong miyerkoles.
27:00Kapwa,
27:01kontento rin
27:01ang mga taga-suporta
27:03ni dating Pangulong
27:04Rodrigo Duterte
27:05maging ang mga kaanak
27:07na mga biktima
27:07sa takbo ng pagdinig.
27:09Live mula sa The Hague,
27:11nakatutok si Marisol Abduraman.
27:13Marisol?
27:17Mel,
27:18ngayong huling araw
27:18ng pagdinig para sa
27:19confirmation of charges
27:21kay dating Pangulong
27:21Rodrigo Duterte,
27:23lalo pang dumami
27:24ang kanyang mga taga-suporta
27:25na nagpunta dito sa ICC.
27:27Ang mga kaanak naman
27:28ng mga biktima
27:29kasama ang ilang grupo
27:30na sumusuporta sa kanila
27:32dumulo naman
27:33sa isang misa kagabi.
27:38Kasama ang ilang mga grupong kontras
27:40sa extrajudicial killings,
27:42dumulo sa isang misa
27:43ang ilang kaanak
27:44ng mga biktima kagabi.
27:46Nagsagawa rin sila
27:47ng candle lighting
27:47para sa patuloy
27:48na panawagan
27:49ng hustisya
27:50para sa mga biktima
27:51ng extrajudicial killings.
27:54Namatayan man,
27:55buhay daw ang pag-asa
27:56ni Lori Pasco
27:57na makakamit na nila
27:58ang hustisya.
27:59Yung pagkakulong
28:00ni Duterte
28:01ng almost a year
28:02na ngayon,
28:03isang panalo na yun
28:04para sa aming mga biktima
28:06kasi sino ba kami
28:08na para
28:09naipakulong namin
28:10ang higante
28:11ng buong bansa.
28:13Mr. Duterte,
28:14magpatutuo ka na,
28:16aminin mo na
28:16yung pag-amin na
28:18nagkasala ka.
28:19Sa mga narinig nila
28:20sa presentasyon
28:21ng depensas,
28:22sabi ng mga abugado
28:23ng mga biktima,
28:24Sa hinala namin
28:25na mahina
28:25ang ebidensya
28:27ng depensa
28:29confirmed.
28:30Sa aming sinasabi
28:31na malakas
28:32ang ebidensya
28:33ng prosecution
28:34confirmed.
28:35Confirm ang lahat
28:36ng aming expected
28:37dito and
28:38I'm sure
28:39ang kaso na ito
28:40mako-confirm din
28:41ang charges.
28:42Iba naman ang tingin dito
28:43ng mga kaalyado
28:44at mga abugado
28:45ni dating Pangulong
28:46Rodrigo Duterte.
28:47Of course, the prosecution
28:48is saying na
28:49maganda yung kanilang
28:50presentasyon
28:52but they are entitled
28:53to their imagined
28:55satisfaction
28:56of their presentation.
29:00Yes.
29:01In short,
29:03bagsak sila.
29:06If the resolution
29:08of the International Criminal Court
29:09will be based on evidence,
29:11e dismiss ng kaso.
29:12Nakausap
29:13naman ang media
29:14si Atty.
29:14Nicholas Kaufman,
29:15ang lead counsel
29:16ng defense team
29:17ng dating Pangulo.
29:19Nakausap daw niya
29:20ang dating Pangulo
29:20noong Merkoles
29:21nung nakabreak ang hearing.
29:23In good spirit
29:24naman daw ito.
29:24But you always give him
29:26an update?
29:26I give him a report.
29:27Of course, I'm counsel
29:28and I'm expected to give
29:29my client a report
29:30of what I'm doing for him.
29:38Mel, ikinatuwangan
29:38ng kanyang mga taga-support
29:40ano yung sinabi
29:40ni Atty. Kaufman.
29:41At samantala, Mel,
29:42talagang nag-aabang tayo
29:44no, dahil we understand
29:45in few minutes
29:46matapos ang hearing
29:47ay magkakaroon
29:48tayo ng pagkakataon
29:50na makausap itong
29:50mga abugado
29:51ng mga biktima.
29:52Magayon din ang kanilang mga kaanak
29:53ngayong natapos na
29:54o matatapos na rather
29:56itong huling araw
29:57ng pagdinig
29:58sa confirmation of charges.
29:59At bukod rin, Mel,
30:00kaabang-abang
30:01ang magiging desisyon
30:02ng Korte
30:02kung ano nga ba
30:04ang kanilang magiging
30:05resolution doon
30:06sa patuloy pa rin
30:07na review ng detensyon
30:08ng dating Pangulo.
30:10Mel.
30:10Maraming salamat sa iyo,
30:12Marisol Abduraman.
30:15Kumpiyansa ang kaanak
30:16ng mga biktima
30:17na tumututok
30:17sa confirmation of charges
30:19sa ICC
30:19na matutuloy ang paglilitis
30:21kay dating Pangulong
30:22Rodrigo Duterte
30:23mula po sa UP Diliman.
30:25Nakatutok live
30:26si Rafi Tima.
30:27Rafi!
30:28Ibin, nagpapatuloy itong
30:32panunood
30:33ng huling araw
30:34ng confirmation of charges
30:35hearing itong mga kaanak
30:36ng mga biktima
30:37ng war on drugs
30:38noong panahon
30:38nating Pangulong Duterte
30:40kanina
30:41ay nagprotesta
30:42yung ilang mga kaanak
30:43at pagkama emosyon
30:44na yung iba sa kanila
30:45ay malaki daw
30:46ang kanilang pag-asa.
30:47As well
30:49convict Duterte
30:50now!
30:51Convict!
30:52Convict!
30:53Kumpara sa mga nauna nilang pagkilos
30:55kakaibaan nila
30:56ang pakiramdam
30:57ng mga kaanak na mga pinatay
30:58sa Duterte Drug War
30:59dahil sa itinatakbo
31:00ng pagdinig sa Daheg.
31:01Ayon sa Secretary General
31:03ng Karapatan
31:04na kararating lang
31:05mula sa Daheg
31:06maging ang mga kaanak
31:07na dumalo
31:07sa pagdinig doon
31:08naniniwalang
31:09matutuloy
31:10sa paglilitis ang kaso.
31:11Sabi nga po namin
31:12ni Atty. Nery Colmenares
31:14day one pa lang
31:15malakas po
31:17ang kaso
31:19sa totoo lang
31:20wala na akong pakialam
31:21kung ano pa man
31:22sinabi ni Kaufman ka.
31:23Si Nanay Nanette
31:24na pinaslang ang
31:24panganay na anak
31:25noong 2017
31:26ubos na niya
31:27ang luha.
31:28Noon pa man
31:29naniniwala na siyang
31:30makakamit ng anak
31:31ang hustisya.
31:32Konti na lang na.
31:34Konting palaw na lang.
31:36Pwede ka na magpahinga na.
31:40Pwede na kita itago
31:41yung litrato mo.
31:45Pwede ko na siya ilagay
31:46ito sa altar namin.
31:47Pero hanggang
31:49nakakalaya pa sila pa to
31:51at hindi pa nakukundik
31:53si Duterte
31:53alam kong hindi natatayimik
31:55ang anak ko.
31:55Nakataho nga
31:57nipang laban
32:00hindi nilang
32:02mamas na.
32:03Ustisya.
32:06Kanina nagsagawa din
32:08ang candlelighting ceremony
32:09ang mga kaanak
32:09na namatay
32:10noong war on drugs
32:11dito sa gusali
32:11kung saan sila
32:12nakatutok sa huling aro
32:14ng confirmation of charges
32:15hearing
32:15sa Tahig
32:16sa pamumagitan
32:17laire streaming.
32:19Isa isang binanggit
32:20ng mga kaanak
32:20ang pangalan
32:21of the people's lives in their lives.
32:23After this confirmation of charges hearing,
32:25it's a matter of waiting for the decision
32:28of the ICC trial chamber at the time
32:29to make a favor of them.
32:32Ayo sa mga kaanak, Emil,
32:34it's a manaliting malusog
32:36si Dating Paolo Duterte
32:37para mabigyan siya ng pagkakaot
32:39na na dumaan sa paglilitis
32:40hanggang sa siya ay makonflict
32:42a processong hindi rin pinakulob
32:44sa kanilang mga mahal sa buhay.
32:47Yan ang latest mula dito sa UP.
32:49Emil?
32:49Maraming salamat, Rafi Tima.
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