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Panayam kay Philippine Navy Spokesperson for the WPS RAdm. Roy Vincent Trinidad ukol sa pangambang military base ng China sa Panatag Shoal
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00:00Pangambang military base ng China sa Panatag Shoal,
00:03ating pag-usapan kasama si Rear Admiral Roy Vincent Trinidad,
00:08Philippine Navy Spokesperson for the West Philippine Sea.
00:11Rear Admiral Trinidad, magandang tanghali po at welcome po sa Bagong Pilipinas ngayon.
00:17Yes, magandang hapon sa inyong lahat dyan at sa mga takasubaybay ng programa Good Afternoon, everyone.
00:23Sir, ano po ba ang saklaw at pamamaraan po ng surveillance ng Philippine Navy
00:27parang masabing walang namomonitor na construction ng military base sa Panatag Shoal?
00:34Yes, alam mo, Yusek Marja and Yusek Aboy,
00:39yung ating AFP, we use all sources of information, all sensors available to us,
00:47sea-based, land-based, air-based, and even space-based.
00:51We have regular patrols by sea and by air.
00:54Kung kinakailangan na ayos on tayo, pinapaliparan natin o pinupuntahan ng barko.
01:02There are different indicators that would tell us kung may mga nag-uumpisa na bang reclamation activities
01:09on Bajo Dimmasinlo.
01:11So far, what we have monitored ay yung mga buya lamang nila, yung tali na pinangharang sa entrance,
01:20and yung illegal presence ng PLA Navy, Maritime Militia, and the Chinese Coast Guard sa Bajo Dimmasinlo.
01:28Wala tayo nakitang any form of reclamation or construction inside Scarborough Shore.
01:36Admiral, speaking of presence, ayon nung sa ulat, mula February 15 hanggang 22nd,
01:41may apat na People's Liberation Army at Navy at limang Chinese Coast Guard vessels sa Bajo Dimmasinlo.
01:48Maraming yung bang ipaliwanan kung gaano, ano yung mga aktividad na ginagawa nila
01:52at ano yung mga karaniwang mga activities na ginagawa nila sa lugar na ito?
01:59Yes, ano, music na labo yan, no?
02:03The presence itself ng PLA Navy, Chinese Coast Guard, Maritime Militia is already a concern.
02:09Kahit kung wala silang ginagawa doon.
02:12And ang ginagawa nila, hindi lang sa Bajo Dimmasinlo, but even sa West Philippines, sa ating mga features doon,
02:20na andun lang naka-ankla or naka-lying to, we call that lying to, naka-steady lang.
02:24Just to show that it is theirs, they occupy the space, they monitor kung sino mga lalapit doon sa kanila.
02:31Paminsan-minsan, pag may dumadaan ng mga barko natin from B-5 Coast Guard o mga aircraft natin,
02:38even from other countries, they get subjected to coercive and aggressive actions.
02:44So, hindi naman itong mga nagpa-patrolyan lumalayag, most of the time naka-steady lang ito.
02:49So, we call that lying to, pwede sa lakas ng hangin or lakas ng alon,
02:54they would transfer sa kabilang side ng shoal na kung saan mas banayan, mas mahina ang tama ng hangin o
03:02ng alon sa kanila.
03:04Okay. Sir, sa usapin naman po ng Umanoy Missile Deployment,
03:09paano po natin natitiyak na ang mga armas ay posibleng nakamount lamang sa mga barko
03:14at hindi dinalagay mismo sa shoal?
03:18Yes, alam mo, makikita naman natin kung may mga launchers,
03:22una sa lahat ng mga launchers, hindi naman pwede ilagay sa shoal yan na hindi sila mang-reclaim.
03:28So, unlike yung mga ibang features sa West Philippines na reclaim nila,
03:32may Shift Reef, Subi Reef, Johnson Reef,
03:34these are already fully operational military bases.
03:38May mga military aircraft doon, may mga warships doon,
03:42may mga military grade sensors, communication systems, and weapon systems.
03:47Sa Scarborough Shoal, Bajo de Masinlo, wala tayo nakitang ganon.
03:50Yung mga barko doon, part naman ng mga modern warships,
03:54ang merong missile systems.
03:57So, most likely, these are the missile systems na mounted sa mga warships,
04:03installed sa mga warships na nagpapatrolya o napupunta doon sa Bajo de Masinlo.
04:07Walang anumang missile system sa Bajo de Masinlo,
04:11sapakat ang kitna ng shoal,
04:13kung hindi siya tubig, ay shallow water.
04:17So, hindi po pwede maglagay ng missile system.
04:20Unless, otherwise, these are mounted on the ships.
04:24Sir, sa kabuwang bilang po ng People's Liberation Army at Navy
04:28at Chinese Post Guard vessels na monitor sa apat na pangunahing features
04:33ng West Philippine Sea,
04:34Sir, paano po ba ito ikukumpara ng Philippine Navy
04:37sa mga naitalang bilang noong mga nakaraang buwan?
04:43So, before I go to the numbers, Margie,
04:46the concern here is hanggat may illegal presence sila.
04:50That is already an issue for us.
04:53And since 1992, 1995,
04:57yung illegal presence ng PLA Navy,
05:00and then sumunod na join yung Coast Guard,
05:02and then eventually yung Martime Militia,
05:04has already been there.
05:06Hindi na sila umalis within our EEZ.
05:08That in itself is our main focus in the long term.
05:12But in the short term, we monitor their numbers.
05:15Yun ang nire-report natin on a weekly and on a monthly basis.
05:20The report last week was covering 15 to 20 to February 18,
05:25ang namataan natin.
05:27Iba't-ibang bangko ng PLA Navy at na Chinese Coast Guard.
05:30All of the four main features that we monitor.
05:33The week before that, I think it was 14.
05:36The week prior, I think 19.
05:39So, it's a fairly constant number.
05:43Yun lang naglalaro yung numbers nila.
05:46Unless they would like to surge.
05:48What do I mean by surge?
05:50Pag pinapadamin nila,
05:51kung halimbawa meron tayong activity,
05:54nahaharangin nila.
05:55Pinapadamin nila.
05:57Kumukuha sa naibang barko,
05:59either from mainland,
06:00mainland or from Hainan
06:01or from Paracels
06:03or even as far as
06:05Mischief Reef or Subi Reef.
06:07But, you know,
06:08numbers on a weekly basis,
06:10these are just to give us a picture
06:12kung ano ang trending nila.
06:14But the bigger issue here is
06:15yung illegal presence in our EEZ
06:17since the early or mid-90s.
06:20Admiral, I want to expound on that particular point.
06:23Kasi iba,
06:23nagpapakotswento na
06:24bagabat siyasabi ng iba
06:25na mas mababa yung bilang ngayon
06:27kumpara noon,
06:28nananatili pa rin yung
06:29tiyatawag ng illegal presence
06:30ng mga Chinese ships na ito
06:31sa loob ng ating
06:32exclusive economic zone.
06:34Ano ho ba yung mga
06:35konkretong implikasyon nito
06:37sa ating soberenya
06:38at maritime security?
06:41Malaki implication nito.
06:42And we have to understand
06:44the bigger picture
06:45over a longer period of time.
06:48Bigger picture, long term.
06:50Yung bigger picture and long term
06:52is yung illegal presence nila.
06:54Doon tayo concerned.
06:55Let's not forget
06:55na yun talaga
06:56ang pinaka-issue natin.
06:58Before we go to any
06:59discussions with them,
07:00before we do anything,
07:02let's not forget
07:03na nandyan sila
07:04sa loob ng ating EEZ.
07:06Doon tayo dapat
07:06mag-uubisa
07:07kung may mga usapin man tayo.
07:09Anong implication nito?
07:11Little by little,
07:12we call it salami slicing.
07:14Hinahati-hati nila,
07:15tinatagpit-tagpit tayo
07:16dahan-dahan.
07:17And they think
07:18in the long term,
07:2010, 15, 20 years paan,
07:23mahabang sila
07:24mag-ano mag-plano.
07:25Tayo,
07:26our political timeline,
07:28if I may look at it this way,
07:29being a democratic country,
07:306 years tayo.
07:31Sa ibang bansa,
07:324 years.
07:33Yung iba siguro, 5 years.
07:34Sa kanila,
07:35lifetime.
07:37Hanggat hindi na mata
07:38yung leader nila,
07:39siya ang nagpapatakbo.
07:40So,
07:41ang continuity
07:42of their,
07:43of his program,
07:44or the party program,
07:46the Chinese Communist Party program,
07:48hanggat buhay,
07:49yung kanyang leader
07:50ay nagpapatulo yan.
07:52So,
07:52we have to understand
07:53the bigger picture here.
07:55It is yung nanghimasok
07:56at hindi pa umaalis
07:57ang PLA Navy,
07:59Chinese Coast Guard,
08:00at
08:01Mara or EEZ.
08:02Sir,
08:04nabanggit mo kanina
08:05na naka-ankla lang itong mga vessels na ito,
08:07pero,
08:07from your monitoring po,
08:09mayroon po ba nakikita
08:10ang pagbabago
08:11sa galaw
08:11o deployment pattern
08:12ng People's Liberation Army,
08:14Chinese Coast Guard,
08:15at maritime militia
08:16sa Baco,
08:16Dimasinlok,
08:17at iba pang bahagi
08:18ng West Philippine Sea?
08:21I would like to compare
08:22over a longer period of time,
08:252024 and 2025,
08:27kasi mas makikita natin
08:29doon yung trends
08:29o yung patterns.
08:31In 2024,
08:33a movement
08:33hindi masyadong integrated
08:35sa Coast Guard
08:37or sa maritime militia.
08:38What do I mean by that?
08:40Pag naggumagawa ng
08:42coercive and aggressive action
08:43ng Coast Guard
08:44or yung militia,
08:45nasa malayo lang,
08:46sa horizon,
08:47yung PLA Navy.
08:49In 2025,
08:50nakita natin,
08:52mas malapit na sila
08:53sa Coast Guard
08:55at sa maritime militia.
08:57The overall
08:58annual
08:59difference
09:00union,
09:03bakit sila
09:04mas malapit ngayon?
09:05Sabagkat ang trust
09:07ng Chinese Communist Party
09:09is integrating
09:09the different forces
09:10interagency operation.
09:13Mahina sila dito.
09:14Unlike Western democracies,
09:16mas nag-uusap-usap
09:17yung ating mga
09:18iba't-ibang ahensya
09:20ng gobyerno.
09:21Sa kanila,
09:22masyado naka-stove pipe
09:23kung tawagin natin
09:24or kanya-kanyang silo yan.
09:26An example of this
09:27of not-so-good
09:29coordination
09:30was yung
09:30August 11
09:31last year
09:32na nagbanggaan
09:34yung kanilang
09:34backcourt
09:35ng Coast Guard
09:36at ng Navy nila,
09:37PLA Navy.
09:39Actually,
09:40sa sidelines,
09:41sinatawanan natin sila
09:43because our
09:44commanding officers
09:45know
09:45kailan delikado na
09:47na magkakabanggaan
09:48kayo.
09:48And we have the
09:49freedom of action.
09:51Tayo mismo
09:52ang nadidecide
09:53at gabi
09:53ang talong tayo
09:54para maiwas
09:55at maging safe
09:56yung barko.
09:57Sa kanilang
09:57walang ganun.
09:58So that is the
09:59direction
10:00in 2025-2024
10:02integrating the
10:03different government
10:04agencies,
10:05the different
10:05party agencies
10:06for joint
10:07and combined
10:08operations.
10:08Yun ang malaking
10:09diferensya.
10:10So we will see
10:11sa 2026
10:12kung ano naman
10:12ang maging
10:12trend nila.
10:15Sir,
10:16sa iba naman po
10:17na balita,
10:19kamusta po ba
10:19yung pakikipag-ugnayan
10:20ng Philippine Navy
10:21sa iba pang mga
10:22ahensya tulad po
10:23ng Armed Forces
10:24of the Philippines
10:24at Philippine Coast Guard
10:26sa patuloy po
10:27na monitoring
10:28ng baho
10:28de machine lock
10:29at iba pang mga
10:30shawls
10:30gaya po
10:31ng Ayungin,
10:32Skoda
10:32at Pag-asa Island po?
10:36Alam nyo
10:38Yusek Marcia,
10:39we have to
10:40give credit
10:41where credit
10:41is due.
10:42Nung binanggit
10:43ng ating
10:44Commander-in-Chief
10:45that the AFP
10:46is now shifting
10:47from internal
10:48security
10:48to external
10:49defense,
10:49this was
10:50in 2023
10:51during his
10:52visit sa
10:53Visayas Command.
10:54Hindi alam
10:55ng AFP
10:55what to do.
10:56Anong ibig
10:57sabihin nito?
10:58The Secretary
10:59of Defense
11:00mentioned
11:00in 2024,
11:01January,
11:02when he
11:02visited
11:03Batanes,
11:04we will
11:05implement
11:06a comprehensive
11:07archipelagic
11:08defense
11:08concept.
11:09So the
11:10AFP
11:10had to
11:11reassess
11:11how we
11:12are doing
11:12things.
11:13Ang isang
11:14malaking
11:15shift
11:15in the way
11:16we are
11:17doing
11:17things
11:17when we
11:18shifted
11:18to
11:18external
11:18defense
11:19under
11:19CADSE
11:20is closer
11:21coordination
11:22with other
11:22government
11:23agencies.
11:25Bakit?
11:25Hindi lamang
11:26itong AFP
11:27ang mag-i-implement
11:28ng security
11:29and protection
11:30ng ating
11:31EEZ.
11:31There are
11:32other
11:33agencies
11:33that are
11:34players
11:34in the
11:34maritime
11:34domain.
11:35Kagaya
11:36ng
11:36BIFAR,
11:37Kagaya
11:37ng
11:38Coast
11:38Guard,
11:38PNP,
11:40Maritime
11:41Group.
11:42Meron tayong
11:43government
11:44and non-government
11:45efforts
11:46or entities
11:49involved
11:50doon.
11:50We have
11:50the
11:50academe,
11:52yung mga
11:52nagkakandaan
11:53sa mga
11:53maritime
11:54survey and
11:55research.
11:55The AFP
11:56had to
11:56accommodate
11:56and do
11:57closer
11:57coordination
11:58with the
11:58other
11:59government
11:59agencies.
12:00Ito
12:01ang
12:01isang
12:01malaking
12:02take-away
12:03for the
12:04CADSEA.
12:05Not
12:05only
12:06actually
12:06sa
12:06pag-protect
12:07ng ating
12:07maritime
12:08domain,
12:08but
12:09sa
12:09kalawakan
12:10ng
12:10defense
12:11and
12:11security
12:11ng
12:11ating
12:12bansa.
12:12We are
12:13now
12:13more
12:13involved
12:13with
12:14other
12:14government
12:14agencies.
12:16Sir,
12:17hingina po
12:17kami ng
12:17detalye
12:18dito
12:18sa naranasang
12:19interference.
12:20Abang
12:20nagsasagawa
12:21po kayo
12:21ng
12:21maritime
12:22patrolling,
12:23nakaranas
12:23po kayo
12:24ng
12:24interference
12:24sa
12:24signal.
12:26Tama
12:26po ba?
12:27Yes,
12:27alam mo,
12:30kasama
12:31ito
12:31sa
12:32coercive
12:33and
12:33aggressive
12:33actions.
12:34Yung
12:35pang-activate
12:35ng
12:35fire
12:36control
12:36system,
12:37yung
12:37laser
12:37pointing,
12:39yung
12:39physically,
12:40in-nudge
12:41ka ng
12:41barco
12:41nila,
12:42magka-cut
12:43across
12:43the bow,
12:44yung
12:45mag-challenge
12:45sila,
12:46mag-broadcast
12:47ng
12:47malign
12:48messages,
12:49fake
12:50messages
12:50that you
12:50are
12:51entering
12:51Chinese
12:52airspace.
12:53Kasama
12:54pa rin
12:54dito
12:54yung
12:55pag-interference
12:57sa ating
12:57communication
12:57systems
12:58and
13:00navigation
13:00systems.
13:01So,
13:02every now and then,
13:03hindi naman
13:03parapi,
13:04every now and then,
13:04yung ating mga
13:05barco at
13:05aeroplano
13:06ay nakaka-experience
13:08ng
13:10interference
13:12mula sa
13:13ating mga
13:14systems,
13:14navigation,
13:16communications,
13:17and other
13:17sensors aboard
13:18ship.
13:20And,
13:21ito,
13:22yung mga
13:23warships
13:23o mga
13:24coast guard
13:24vessels nila,
13:25or kung malapit
13:26ka sa
13:26bases nila,
13:27artificial
13:27bases,
13:28galing
13:29sa bases
13:29nila.
13:31Admiral,
13:32bago ako
13:32magtungo sa
13:32tanong ko,
13:33gusto ko na ipabot
13:34sa inyo yung
13:34aming paghanga,
13:35pagpupugay,
13:36at pasasalamat
13:36sa lahat ng
13:37membro ng
13:38AFP,
13:38lalong-lalo na
13:39sa
13:39Philippine
13:39Navy,
13:40sa inyong
13:40walang
13:40hindi
13:41matawarang
13:41katapangan
13:42at
13:42dedikasyon
13:43sa inyong
13:43servisyo.
13:44Admiral,
13:44pabot nyo na
13:45lang yung
13:47mensahe namin
13:47sa inyong
13:48mga
13:48tauhan.
13:49Pero,
13:49sa kabila
13:50ng mga
13:50ulat
13:51at
13:51spekulasyon
13:51tungkol sa
13:52pagtatayo
13:52ng base
13:53at paglalagay
13:54ng mga
13:54missiles,
13:54anong
13:55huwa ang inyong
13:55mensahe sa ating
13:56publiko
13:57upang tiyakin
13:58na aktibo
13:58at tuloy-tuloy
13:59ang pagbabatay
14:00ng pamahalaan
14:00sa West
14:01Philippine Sea?
14:03Yes,
14:04maraming salamat
14:05Yusek Aboy,
14:06Yusek Margie
14:06and Joshua.
14:07First and foremost,
14:09yung hinaharap
14:10natin dito,
14:11hindi ito
14:11matatapos
14:12overnight.
14:13Ito is
14:14intergenerational.
14:15Pangalawa,
14:17hindi ito
14:18problema
14:19lamang
14:19ng Palawan
14:20o ng
14:21Batanes.
14:22Ito ay
14:23problema
14:24ng buong
14:25bansa.
14:26Existential
14:27threat ito
14:27sapagkat
14:28ang kinakaharap
14:29natin dito,
14:30ang threat sa atin
14:31is tagpit-tagpiin
14:31yung ating bansa.
14:33Ayaw naman natin
14:34na ang maipapamanan
14:35natin
14:35na Pilipinas
14:36sa mga next
14:37generation
14:38of Filipinos
14:38ay isang
14:40Pilipinas na
14:416,000 plus
14:43islands na lang,
14:43ika nga,
14:44di ba,
14:44na nabawasan.
14:46So,
14:46the AFP,
14:47the Department
14:47of Defense
14:48and I believe
14:49even other
14:49government agencies,
14:50we are doing
14:51everything that we can
14:52with all that we have
14:53to ensure the
14:55integrity of the
14:55territory
14:56to protect
14:57our sovereignty.
14:58Hindi lamang
14:59ito sa maritime
15:00domain.
15:01where we have
15:02all the ICAT
15:02activities,
15:03even on land,
15:04where we have
15:04foreign interference
15:05and malign.
15:12Admiral.
15:14Okay, sir,
15:15maraming salamat po
15:16sa inyong oras.
15:17Rear Admiral Roy
15:18Vincent Trinidad,
15:19Philippine Navy
15:20spokesperson
15:20for the West
15:21Philippine Sea.
15:22Mabuhay po kayo.
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