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The Vinny & Haynie crew discuss Eric DeCosta's comments at the NFL Combine about Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens voluntary OTAs. Jackson historically has skipped the voluntary workouts but Ravens new offensive coordinator would like everyone to attend. Should Lamar Jackson attend those workouts?
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00:00Those are voluntary. Lamar's a two-time MVP. I think he knows what it takes to get ready for
00:05the grind of the NFL season. He's proven he can do it at a very, very high level. I have
00:10no
00:11preference. That's Eric DaCosta. It's turning up Tuesday. Foo Fighters ever long. Anything you
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00:29voluntary workouts and whether or not Lamar will be there because Declan Doyle said, I'd
00:34like to see kind of everyone show up, right, to that sort of situation, which has never
00:40been Lamar's MO. He pops in for the first one, right? Yeah. And then you see him again at
00:47mandatory mini camp. Yeah. But Eric DaCosta doesn't really have a preference, but is it
00:54a wink-wink? I don't have a preference. I mean, if Lamar shows up to everyone, you think
00:59the cost is going to be... I'm guessing that because Declan said that, you know, when
01:08the coordinators talked, Declan Doyle, what he said was, like you just said, Bob, he
01:14expected, he said, I expect everybody to be there. It's a new offense. Yes. Yes. So
01:21the media made a big deal of that. You know, I mean, and when I came back, that was the
01:27first thing that I said, because Bruce said, what'd you take out of it? That was
01:31what I took out of it, the whole press conference. And because I knew it wasn't
01:35happening. And Lamar probably told Eric, that ain't happening, you know? And that's
01:42why Eric, you know, I mean, Eric basically said he's not, he's not coming. You know,
01:48he's a two-time MVP. He doesn't, he knows how to get ready. Basically, he's telling us
01:53he's not going to be there. So, you know, you got to, so Declan's got to find a way
01:58to teach him the offense, whether it be on Zoom or however. But my guess is, is Eric has
02:05a hard time getting a hold of him on text. You know, him answering Zooms to go over the
02:10offense, probably not happening a ton.
02:12Yeah. And, and normally I wouldn't care.
02:14Right.
02:15Because of what Eric just said, he is a two-time MVP, should have won it a third time, et
02:21cetera,
02:21et cetera, et cetera. But it's a new coordinator. It's a new offense.
02:25New terminology.
02:26Yeah. I mean, you're the leader of the, of the team and, you know, show up more than
02:32once.
02:32It's a bad look.
02:34It is voluntary. Let's stress that. It's not like he's required to be there, but it
02:40would definitely send a positive message if, you know, he pops in there and, you know,
02:46him and Henry and Ronnie just, you know, at least early on give a, Hey, let's do
02:52this. We got to bounce back sort of philosophy.
02:55Yeah. Just so when, when Lamar shows up to mandatory mini camp, Bob, he can call the
03:01offense in the huddle. That would be nice. You know, otherwise, you know, he's going to
03:08be kind of, that's when he's going to learn it all. And then when he gets to training
03:12camp, he probably figures, you know, I get training camp and, but then, you know, he'll
03:17be there for the two and a half days of the mandatory mini camp, get it there. But then
03:24how far behind are you compared to everybody else? I mean, the rookies are ahead of you.
03:29Yeah. I would prefer that he shows up more than once. But then again, if the GM can't
03:34get in touch with him, I'm sure as hell not going to be talking to him. Nolan McGraw,
03:37what do you think Lamar Jackson's presence at OTAs? Should it be more prominent or is
03:45it, you know, it is a voluntary exercise and he's done pretty well for himself by missing
03:50most of them throughout his career. I don't remember, was he there for his rookie year?
03:54First two years, did he show up a lot?
03:58I don't, Bob, I know I was there for rookie mini camp. He was there and it was struggles,
04:04but I mean, Flacco was the guy then, you know? Right. But second year, it was G-Row. You had
04:08changed coordinators because Marty had moved on. What do you think, Nolan McGraw, new OC,
04:13guy the same age as the quarterback? Should the quarterback be there trying to be the Pied Piper
04:19for voluntary stuff? So obviously, yes, it only benefits him. It only benefits the team for him
04:27to be there. But I'm telling you right now, I can't do another three, four months of this. I mean,
04:32I seriously, like we, we, I, we talked the past couple of weeks. It's a talking point when Doyle
04:37mentioned it, obviously a headline to Costa here. It's a headline, but I can't do this whole thing.
04:42And then once we get to OTAs, he's either there, he's not right. And we can talk about it at
04:47the
04:47time, but it is what it is, man. Like this is who he is. This is what he's done throughout
04:52his career.
04:52If he doesn't see fit, I might not agree with it, but when it's go time, it's go time. And
04:58that's
04:58ultimately what I will subscribe to is that if he, I'm sorry, if he gets to the season and it's
05:04normal Lamar, it's business as usual, nobody's going to care. Nobody's going to bat an eye,
05:08but maybe if it's not up to par, if it's substandard, if there's, even if it's a little
05:14injury related, people aren't going to be as willing to put up with it and they will go back
05:19and they will cite stuff like OTAs. Now, again, where does that rank in terms of what actually
05:25gets him ready and what makes him operate on game day? Up for debate. Everyone has a different
05:32level of importance they place on it. But for me right now, I think he should be there.
05:37And I said it a couple minutes ago, if it was still the status quo shows up for day one
05:43and
05:43then we don't see him again for mandatory stuff, so be it. But I think with a new, young, first
05:49-time
05:49play caller, and to get to know Joe Lombardi a little bit too, I think his presence needs
05:56to be more regular than we have seen before. Even though, again, I'd stress this, it's not
06:04mandatory, it's voluntary. But isn't it always been called mandatory, voluntary, or voluntary,
06:10mandatory, whatever it is?
06:11No, no. And Bob, my question is, who's the quarterback that's going to be taking the snaps?
06:18Snoop's? Yeah, because Snoop's a free agent, isn't he? Snoop's a free agent, and Cooper
06:22Rush was awful. Oh, bad. Yeah, so I mean, right now, they don't have one. Right now, they
06:28don't have one. I'd imagine they'd make a strong effort to bring Huntley back. It's my
06:33hunch. But we'll see. Well, I guess you could look at, you know, whether Bears, Denver, where
06:45Lombardi's been, where Doyle's been, you know, if there's somebody that they like, you know,
06:50backup type guy who, you know, because if you, I don't know that you want Huntley because
06:56then you're teaching him a new offense too. If you get somebody, you know, who's familiar
07:01with what Declan's doing or his terminology of Lombardi and stuff, then they can help Lamar
07:08learn too.
07:09That's fine. I mean, I just, after what we saw this past season, I can't have two wildly
07:14different styled quarterbacks or one wildly different from Lamar, like in Cooper Rush,
07:19because you just saw, like even, let's say Cooper Rush played better, right? He wasn't
07:23turning the ball over like an absolute buffoon. I still don't think that offense is as smooth
07:29as it would have been with Huntley running the show, just because it's different. And the
07:35receiver, I mean, you notice there's, guy's body language was different when he was in
07:40the game. So I'm a little hesitant to get away from what I know. And at least, you might
07:45not be over the moon about Hyler Huntley, but at least you know what you got.
07:48Ryan Poles, today, the GM of the Bears said that Tyler Badgent, back up to Caleb Williams,
07:55people are kicking the tires and possibly trading for him. Cardinals appear to be the head of
08:00line there, but yeah, we're here and all it.
08:03Got to drum up that interest.
08:04We're here, baby.
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