00:00If you want to help the middle-earning students, the most important thing is the repayment threshold should have been
00:05increased.
00:05When the Tories brought this in, it was a graduate contribution system.
00:09Martin, this is exactly why young people are suffering.
00:12You've got lots of people who finished university where they didn't have to pay fees, didn't have to take out
00:17loans,
00:17and now you're all saying, oh, nothing can be done, don't do this.
00:20I'm not saying nothing can be done, I'm saying what you should do.
00:22Well, I'm the first person who's even trying to solve this problem.
00:25Shall we have a chance about it? Because I think you've got the right idea that this is not a
00:28solution that will help the middle-earning students.
00:30Martin, if you want us to have a debate, I'm very happy for us to have a debate.
00:34Does a middle student benefit from a cut-the-interest rate?
00:35I think people need to even know what it is I'm talking about.
00:37You're both talking over me. Excuse me.
00:39Sorry, apologies.
00:40Let me explain what my policy is.
00:41I want to make sure that those young people who are paying and paying and their debt is not going
00:46down get a relief.
00:48If you think that there's a better offer, let's look at it.
00:50But what's made the difference now is that in her budget, Rachel Reeves raised the threshold, so it's dragging more
00:56people into it.
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