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00:12number one what is your name please my name is Jim Tyler number two my name is Jim Tyler
00:21and number three my name is Jim Tyler only one of these people is the real Jim Tyler
00:28and has sworn to tell the truth
00:36and now let's meet our panel star of his own popular nightclub act soupy sales from TV's
00:45eight is enough Lonnie O'Grady the pride of Pittsburgh PA Emmy Award winner John Wade
00:51and good morning America's own Pat Collins that's our panel
01:18either this studio audience loves me or they've been drinking
01:24panel you're looking well as usual you're looking marvelous uh soupy you're man of sartorial splendor
01:30are you ready to play the game yes then let's get right down to the problem presented by our first
01:35team of challengers all three of whom claim to be Jim Tyler and you may open your envelopes and
01:39follow along as I read I Jim Tyler am a skydiver recently I performed a stunt that had never been
01:46done before without a parachute I jumped from an airplane at 14,000 feet maneuvered through the air
01:53to 4,000 feet where I linked up with my partner Bill Parson shown here in the blue suit who
01:58had jumped
01:59from another plane and was of course wearing a parachute I hooked into Bill's harness and gradually
02:04lowered myself down until I was hanging some 20 feet below him together we rode down on his chute
02:10and landed without incident the stunt which looks so simple in execution was actually the result of
02:16two years of careful planning and rehearsal my real life job is rather exciting too I am an
02:22investigator for the United States Internal Revenue Service signed Jim Tyler
02:35and panel we assure you that Jim is here as a parachute is not as an internal revenue
02:40investigator and uh let's start the questioning with our own sweet Lonnie O'Grady
02:44ah thank you um number one how long have you been skydiving approximately eight years
02:51yeah do you know how many jumps you've made yes uh 831 jumps uh number two how many jumps have
02:57you
02:57made I've made 457 jumps number three same question I have 831 jumps 831 um was this whose idea was
03:05this stunt number three was who came up with this idea it was my my original idea number two yes
03:11it was
03:11my idea okay um uh number one working with the IRS what are you uh uh what do you do
03:20for them I'm sorry
03:21well uh it's not quite as exciting as it sounds I sit in the office and and uh make phone
03:27calls
03:27ah okay number three how long have you been working for me and we go to John Wade okay uh
03:33number one you
03:33said many careful years uh two years of careful planning and rehearsal number one how do you rehearse for
03:38this well uh we we jump with parachutes and uh run through all the motions and try to hook up
03:44and do
03:44everything right so that when we do it without we're uh know what we're doing okay good number two
03:49describe a static line static line is a cord approximately 10 feet long which is used to
03:53open the chute automatically okay number three when you were landing one on top of another how did you
03:57accomplish that anyone hurt there or how'd you do it since I was 20 feet below him I landed uh
04:02ahead of
04:03him and then he landed a few feet in front of me okay were you paid for this number three
04:07no I was not just for the fun of it yes boy what fun okay number two were you paid
04:13for this any
04:14no I did this just for the thrill of it okay where was it it was over at Gloucester Virginia
04:18when
04:18uh it was about uh two years ago about two years ago and we go to Pat Collins yes we
04:24all want to
04:24know number three is the jump deductible that's the important question well if you approach it from
04:31from a business standpoint uh the expenses are deductible number two did your partner did Bill
04:36have a second parachute just in case no there was a third person which had a parachute which jumps with
04:42us and uh in case um Bill's parachute opened uh wrong then uh the third person would link up with
04:48me
04:49and give me my parachute uh how number two would he link up with you he would just uh it's
04:54a process
04:54called tracking which which would enable him to catch up with me then he would hand me my parachute in
04:59midair and I would put it on he would help me put it on then I'd open it oh number
05:03one how do you
05:03work this stunt out how do you go through a dry run a dry run well you do air runs
05:09mostly but we
05:10figured out what we wanted to do and then we uh we rehearsed it in the air we it's mostly
05:15clipping
05:15on and we go to soupy we go to soupy sales thank you uh number one how much does it
05:21cost each time you
05:22go up in a plane a plane or with a parachute in a plane you ain't gonna jump out with
05:27a parachute
05:27unless you got a plane it costs about twenty dollars unless you know something that I don't
05:30know about twenty dollars a jump it's much more expensive the first time you jump then it's about
05:34twenty dollars a jump after that uh-huh standard uh number two do you get insurance can you get
05:40insurance if they know that you're a skydiver um if they know that I'm a skydiver it would be much
05:45harder to get insurance what what do you tell them number three I've never had anyone ask
05:51uh-huh uh well okay now how long have you thank you for your usual incisive questioning soupy and
06:00now that bell says time is up and now it's time to vote for number one number two or number
06:08three
06:08whoever in your opinion is the real Jim Tyler we pay a hundred dollars for each incorrect vote
06:12and four incorrect votes we'll give our team of challengers 500 bucks so the ballot's all marked
06:16panel Lonnie who'd you vote for I voted for number three um number two he seemed to know what he
06:23was
06:23talking about but I don't believe him as simple as that John who got your vote well actually I voted
06:29for number one uh he just convinced me the other two they seem to know exactly how many jumps they
06:33had I think if you jumped a lot of times you're gonna kind of lose track there especially if you
06:36hit it hard a couple of times and Pat I voted for number three being with the IRS he has
06:40the biggest
06:41pockets so I figured he's gonna be in and soupy who got your number two knew what a static line
06:47was
06:47but I think number three is the one uh okay now where the votes are all in we're going to
06:53find out
06:53who the real parachute-less jumper is and here to pick out the real Jim Tyler is the man who
06:58picked
06:58him out of the air his partner Bill Parson and Bill okay not bad pal let's find out who our
07:17imposters are number one would you tell us please who you are and what you do my name is Bill
07:20Schley
07:21and I'm a copywriter with Ted Bates advertising New York and number two could you tell us something
07:30about yourself yes my name is John Winslow and I was recently discharged from the service
07:41you'd really have to trust each other wouldn't you for a stunt like this yeah Bill and I have
07:44made over 500 jumps together over the last five years so how long at that 4,000 feet how long
07:50before
07:50you hit the ground approximately that's about 20 seconds 20 seconds to get all that together
07:54well it's an amazing achievement and we congratulate you and wish you safety and uh good things in life
08:00don't jump anymore save yourself relax do something else spot weaving or something I don't know anyway
08:05there was one incorrect vote giving you a hundred dollars to spend thank you for joining us on to
08:08tell the truth and we'll see two of you back on one-on-one very soon and we'll be back
08:14after these messages
08:22we're back panel and let's meet our next team of challengers
08:29number one what is your name please my name is Karen Donovan number two my name is Karen Donovan and
08:38number three my name is Karen Donovan all right panel once again open your envelopes please and follow
08:45along as I read I Karen Donovan operate a business known as rent-a-wife a service for busy bachelors
08:52who are unwilling or unable to cope with the details of life outside the office for a fee one of
08:58my staff of
08:59pseudo spouses will help with moving or decorating arrange and hostess parties balance checkbooks plan vacations
09:05cook clean run errands and shop for virtually everything we will even watch TV soap operas for a client and
09:11leave written notes I screen all
09:13potential clients carefully because there's one obvious thing my rental wives won't do signed Karen Donovan
09:29all right panel these three ladies all claim to be the operator of rent-a-wife Karen Donovan let's start
09:33the questioning with a man who sorely needs a wife John Wayne
09:36thank you very much uh number three there's an obvious question says there's one obvious thing my
09:40rental wives won't do I look at you you seem thoroughly capable of doing everything I would want
09:45so uh what is it that your rental wives okay what is it that your rental wives will not do
09:52uh anything but sex oh anything but gee and I had windows in mind so okay now why is this
10:00just for
10:01for for number two just for bachelors I would think that there would be many uh real husband whose wife
10:07couldn't handle everything it's not only for bachelors bachelors or anybody who needs a household
10:12manager oh it says there anyone unwilling or unable to cope okay number one where do you operate this
10:17service in Petaluma California Petaluma California uh what is that known for Petaluma
10:23chickens okay number two where do you operate your service and we go to Pat Collins uh number two are
10:28you
10:28going to have a rent a husband it's not really rent a husband or rent a wife per se it's
10:34rent a
10:35housekeeping manager okay well all the women in the audience and I are interested if you ever get
10:40going with rent a husband yes number three uh what's the fee is it by the day by the hour
10:45well we have
10:46several fees $25 an hour with a minimum of three hours $150 a day or $600 a week or $600
10:54a week oh I'm
10:55going to tell my husband I need a bigger allowance uh that's for sure number one I'm assuming that
11:02perhaps your biggest group of clients might be divorced men who are soon find themselves without
11:06no no no no I'm wrong who then um they're divided into single men single women and married couples
11:13equally and we go to soupy yeah number one uh what what are the hours day and evening hours only
11:23no I mean what hour is it right now I got to meet a person no I'm just kidding uh
11:27number two let me
11:28ask you this did it start in Petaluma no I in Springfield Massachusetts oh is that where you
11:35said number three where did you start I work in New York it's in New York uh number one uh
11:41does the
11:41client have to have references before you'll send somebody over there yes uh-huh number two uh how many
11:48girls do you have working for you we have about fifteen uh-huh and and number three
11:53and we go to Lonnie O'Grady um number one uh how many clients a day how many requests a
12:00day do you
12:01get on the average for one of these sort of women fifty to a hundred a day gracious me number
12:09two
12:10same question please over 200 and number three about 25 requests a day and you said you operate out of
12:17New York is that correct pardon you said you operate out of New York is that correct um number
12:22two what when you screen one of these women what do you ask them what what is the screening process
12:26involved you mean one of the women on my staff yes what do you what are you looking for when
12:30you
12:30screen most of the women on my staff I've uh gotten referred by friends so they're friends of
12:35friends number three same bell says once again time is up panel it's now time to vote for number one
12:42for number two or for number three whoever in your opinion is the real Karen Donovan now the
12:48ballots all marked John who'd you vote for anytime you ask anybody where their service is anybody would
12:53pick Petaluma California I mean gotta be telling the truth I've been there many times it is a chicken
12:57capital of the world arm wrestling champion place of the world I just thought she was born there you
13:01watch it yeah well she's either a great arm wrestler or a real chicken no the uh but anyway
13:08I voted for number one she just seems very sincere and uh very nice okay Pat I did the same
13:13thing
13:13number one was my choice as well and soupy well I thought number one was sincere but I don't get
13:19sickening about it I mean she's from Pataluna which is we all have our cross to bear but uh number
13:26two
13:26is from Springfield and that's not bad either number three was marvelous I think it's number two
13:30she really had the hours and everything down pat hey Lonnie who'd you vote for I wanted to vote
13:35my sense has said number three but number two looks like someone who could handle that kind
13:39of a service a little bit older a little bit maybe wiser okay now we're going to find out which
13:44of
13:44these ladies in fact runs a rent-a-wife service will the real Karen Donovan please stand up
14:09panel let's find out who our imposters are number two you fooled at least two of our panelists could
14:13you tell us please who you are and what you really do my name is Carol Pettymare and I'm a
14:17proposal
14:17consultant for AT&T and number three could you tell us something about yourself please my name is
14:28Carolyn Bartell I'm home furnishings editor at Modern Bride magazine and I'm married
14:38I don't know if anybody asked this question and you may not be able to answer it on television but
14:41what's what's the most unusual request you've ever had
14:46uh the most unusual the man who wanted us to clean and decorate his house in only aprons
14:52you obviously didn't do that oh no no well I wish you continued success with your your uh rent-a
14:59-wife
14:59service and there were two incorrect votes at a hundred dollars each giving you two hundred dollars
15:03to spend with wild abandon thank you for joining us on to tell the truth and we'll see two of
15:06you on
15:07one-on-one we are back panel in time to play one-on-one and here are four people that
15:22you have run
15:22across in your lives before panel you of course remember panel Bill and John who pretended to be
15:35the skydiver and Carol and Carolyn who were imposterous for the rent-a-wife spot now you do
15:40know something about these people there's one fact about one of them that we have deliberately withheld
15:44from you until this very moment one of these four people holds a world's record world's endurance
15:49record it's up to you to find out which one and here's how you go about it you will each
15:52have 20
15:53seconds to question the person sitting directly opposite you the end of that time you'll be asked
15:57to cast your vote there and then as to whether that very person in fact holds a world endurance
16:01record and Pat are you ready to question Bill yes then hit it Bill what is the what is a
16:07record
16:08enduring what well in college I set the world's record for the longest shower ever taken the longest
16:14shower were you alone oh I can't I can't right you know I mean alone I know you're alone in
16:20the shower
16:20I mean alone yeah I have we had people standing by oh I can't get myself out of trouble did
16:26Bill take
16:26the world's longest shower yes or no well it's real clean to me yes okay so yes for Bill and
16:31John
16:31you ready to question John then start John what what was the record I twirled a yo-yo for 120
16:36hours
16:36120 hours where'd you do this I was in Gloucester Virginia but mostly it was all around okay why in
16:41a
16:41competition no just to be just to do something who else competed anybody else just know me and me
16:46alone okay and you got no pay for this or no promotional just just for the fun of it okay
16:51just up and down and up and down right okay what was the previous record okay John I would say
16:56offhand
16:57not knowing him personally I doubt it that's a no for John and Lonnie are you ready to question Carol
17:02yes I am then start now what's what what's the what's the record I rocked in a rocking chair for
17:0985
17:09hours eight and where did you do this Springfield why just for kicks uh did you make the Guinness Book
17:16of
17:16World Records no I didn't there's someone who's rocked longer than 85 hours are you kidding
17:23okay um um
17:26Lonnie is Carol a world champion rocker no that's a no for Carol and Super you ready to question
17:31Carol yes then hit it Carolyn what was the record that you have 72 hours and I'm a solitaire champion
17:41solitaire solitaire oh really uh-huh and who who was your partner
17:46where was this done I did it on the summer vacation in Maine how many decks of cards did
17:51you wear out 10 uh-huh and uh who uh kept track of it my stepson I did it on
17:56a challenge
17:57uh-huh soupy is Carolyn our world solitaire champion yes or no no that's a no for Carolyn okay the
18:04decisions have now been made and of course it's time once again to tell the truth will the real
18:08world endurance record holder please stand up
18:28the last two years I have been the emcee for the Duncan yo-yo Olympics and I didn't know anything
18:34you know are you serious that's the honest truth but you meet a yo-yo you know just
18:38wait I'm sorry you just got out of the army do you see a long career for yourself in yo
18:43-yoing
18:43no uh I figured if anyone wanted to try and break my record I'd probably help them
18:48but um sometime in the future I'd like to try for 150 hours do you get to change fingers or
18:54uh no I use the same finger same finger and you yo-yoed for 72 hours
18:57john you have big problems john did you make the guinness book of world records oh yes I did it's
19:02on page 488 oh you ought to try it with the Italian yo-yo that's a meatball with a strand
19:09of spaghetti
19:14john we congratulate you on your world's record you've won yourselves $200 there were two incorrect
19:18votes thank you all for joining us on the television
19:21and we'll return with more right after these messages
19:34you know I've always thought soupy was from New York but in the commercial break he was telling me
19:38he's from North Carolina but you moved didn't you well I was born in North Carolina but I lived most
19:42my life in in Huntington West Virginia my mother Bertha uh what didn't like North Carolina and you
19:49might say the Southland gave Bertha the blues
19:54we have to leave on that note we have to we always we do we'll be in touch soupy thanks
20:01very much for
20:01coming down that is all the time we have for today panel it's been a great pleasure I'm glad we're
20:06getting out of here I have a cab is there a way we could boycott quietly back door and uh
20:10we'll see
20:12you again soon I hope thank you all for joining us on the show of shows to tell the truth
20:16thanks so much
20:17thank you
20:28so
20:28so
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