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Bridging Legacies and Futures: Inside the Mind of John Elkann
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00:00Nous allons le faire en français.
00:03Absolument.
00:04Absolument.
00:05Donc, je dis que John est une personne très spéciale, un leader unique qui combine les valeurs de la famille
00:14très magnifique d'industrialistes.
00:18Et il est le risque-taker, comme beaucoup d'entrepreneurs sont, et construit ce qui était le fondation d'une
00:33très ancienne industrie, bringing it à l'avenir.
00:38Il a rescué l'empire d'un grand-grand-grand-fâtre.
00:44Est-ce que c'était votre grand-grand-fâtre ou plus ?
00:46Un grand-grand-grand-fâtre.
00:48Un grand-grand-grand-fâtre qui a construit Fiat et a transformé l'entreprise en Stellantis, et il a une
00:57vision pour le futur sur la technologie.
01:03Pourquoi technologie ?
01:05Et avant de commencer par la technologie, vous devriez nous dire ce qui vous a conduit.
01:12Pourquoi est-ce que vous a conduit ?
01:14Parce que, vous êtes en tant que grande famille, vous pouvez juste avoir une bonne vie de société,
01:22vous pouvez juste avoir une vie de société, vous pouvez aller de une très spéciale partie à une autre partie,
01:28et vous travaillez comme un pire, et vous êtes en train de prendre beaucoup de risques.
01:32Qu'est-ce qui vous a conduit ?
01:35Maurice, je suis très fortunate, comme vous, de être très curieux.
01:42Et si on est capable de faire, apprendre et comprendre,
01:47c'est une manière incroyable de vivre une vie.
01:52Et donc, la curiosité a été la principale motivation.
01:57Et les gens.
01:59Vous m'avez connaissé depuis longtemps, et vous avez l'occasion d'exchanger avec incroyable gens comme vous,
02:06et vous a conduit à vous, et vous a conduit à vous, et nous sommes tous avec les gens,
02:13et c'est la plus importante et la plus importante partie de notre vie, nos relations.
02:20À quelle âge avez-vous pris le helm de Fiat ?
02:26J'ai reçu la board quand j'avais 21 ans, et j'ai devenu chairman à 30 ans.
02:37Donc, il vous a pris 9 ans, c'est assez long, c'est ok.
02:42En même temps, j'ai dû graduer en engineering, j'ai marié, j'avais des enfants, donc il y avait
02:48beaucoup à faire.
02:49Je suis un ingénieur d'éducation, d'éducation, donc vous savez quelque chose de l'ingénieur ?
02:59Je sais ce que je ne sais pas, c'est beaucoup.
03:04Donc, tell me pourquoi technologie, parce que technologie est compliquée, c'est le futur, nous concrions.
03:14Mais pour évaluer, décider, et prendre des risques, ce n'est pas quelque chose qui est facile.
03:23Donc, qu'est-ce qui vous a conduit à choisir la technologie ?
03:27Parce que vous pourriez rester avec la ferrari.
03:30La ferrari est technologie, beaucoup de technologie.
03:35Je pense que c'est qu'il y a beaucoup de possibilités de faire ce que l'on a imaginé,
03:55ce que l'on a rêvé, possible.
03:57Et je suis très heureux d'étudier l'enjeuner dans l'ère où deux major changes ont lieu en technologie.
04:07Une, internet, et la deuxième, mobile.
04:11Donc, vous devriez combiner trois importants qualités.
04:17La première est la vision, la deuxième est la connaissance, et la troisième est la connaissance.
04:25Les skills de l'exercice.
04:29L'exercice.
04:31Oui, évidemment.
04:33Vous êtes le droit, donc il est quatre.
04:35Oui.
04:36En quelque sorte, les talents de l'exercice sont un produit d'un produit.
04:42Je me souviens d'un film par Vittorio De Sita, c'est un film très vieux, et sa fille dans
04:52le film disait « J'ai eu une très bonne marque dans la math. »
04:58Et il disait « Si vous n'avez pas de l'argent, vous n'avez pas besoin de compter, et
05:03si vous avez assez de l'argent, vous avez quelqu'un qui va compter pour vous. »
05:10Vous avez créé Lingotto. Qu'est-ce que c'est Lingotto?
05:16Lingotto est une compagnie que nous avons créé en 2023, et Lingotto est une compagnie d'investissement.
05:23Dans Lingotto, nous avons le Fund de Lingotto, qui est créé par James Anderson, qui a été un legend dans
05:31l'investissement dans la technologie pour 40 ans.
05:34Et il est maintenant le fonds de l'innovation, qui commence vraiment avec très petites entreprises sur l'endroit stage,
05:43et des entreprises listées.
05:44Donc, par exemple, vous avez Jensen hier hier, nous sommes l'investissement de NVIDIA, avant que NVIDIA a été successful.
05:53Donc, vous devriez être un homme heureux.
05:55C'est un homme heureux.
05:56C'est un homme heureux, mais nous sommes aussi très excités.
05:59Et dans certaines des entreprises qui sont ici à Vivante.
06:01Jensen était là, comme vous le savez.
06:03C'est l'innovation.
06:05Donc, les fonds de l'innovation commencent à trouver les prochaines NVIDIA, et vont aller à des entreprises publiques publiques
06:14qui sont NVIDIA.
06:15NVIDIA ?
06:17NVIDIA ?
06:17C'est surtout l'innovation ?
06:20Innovation, c'est plus largement moins de technologie.
06:23C'est ça la question ?
06:25C'est en ce genre de secteurs ?
06:30Technologie ?
06:31Ça peut être aussi quelque chose comme...
06:34Energy, health care.
06:35Health care?
06:36Yeah.
06:38Et comment vous combinez,
06:40quel genre de skills vous avez besoin
06:43pour prendre la bonne innovation
06:45dans laquelle vous allez investir?
06:47Donc, le team dans le fonds de l'innovation
06:50est vraiment très technologique.
06:53Donc, nos collègues là
06:54sont très techniquement capable des personnes
06:59qui ont étudié Ph.D.s
07:01et qui ont travaillé dans les entreprises.
07:04Et ils sont complementés
07:06par des personnes qui ont très bon sens
07:08et bon judgment.
07:10Et la combattance de compréhension
07:13et de bon sens
07:15avec bon judgment
07:16est vraiment derrière
07:20la force de l'organisation.
07:23Et où vous trouvez ces types de gens ?
07:26Parce que c'est très difficile.
07:30Les gens qui ont le bon sens
07:34et un bon judgment,
07:38c'est quelque chose qui n'est pas...
07:40Les non-inscences personnes
07:42sont très difficiles à trouver.
07:44Je vends à James Anderson
07:46pour plus d'une decade.
07:48Et il y a été
07:50running Bailey Gifford
07:51and have exchanged
07:54many times over the years
07:56and then he decided
07:58to retire and in some ways we convinced
08:00him to come back to do
08:02what he loves, which is
08:04investing and he has those
08:06attributes and as you well know
08:08leadership ends up
08:10attracting and it's a
08:12self-fulfilling
08:14So Lingotto
08:16is
08:18better known
08:20because there is already
08:22Lingotto which is the place
08:24where Fiat
08:26started or where
08:28the center of
08:30Fiat. Yeah, so
08:31we founded Lingotto
08:34in 2023. Lingotto
08:36the factory which is
08:38one of the most iconic factories
08:40in the world, the giga factory
08:42of last century was founded in
08:441923. So
08:46100 years later.
08:47100 years later, yeah.
08:49And Lingotto means...
08:50You don't look that old.
08:53I hide it.
08:55Lingotto
08:56means bullion.
08:58L'ingot d'or.
08:59L'ingot.
08:59So it felt a good name
09:02also for an investment
09:04management company. But we're very
09:06proud on the
09:08technology side also about
09:09Vento, Maurice.
09:10I will
09:13come back to something else
09:14because I think that people
09:16will be extremely
09:17interested in
09:18understanding what
09:19you are doing.
09:20That is much more
09:22on technology
09:23which is
09:24Vento.
09:26And
09:27Vento
09:30you chair it.
09:32You are
09:33involved in
09:34initiatives like
09:36the Italian
09:37Tech Week.
09:38a competitor to
09:39VivaTech.
09:40No, no.
09:41No, no.
09:42An admirer
09:43of VivaTech.
09:45And
09:45what role
09:48does this play
09:49in supporting
09:50the Italian
09:50tech system
09:51and how
09:53do they reflect
09:54your vision
09:54for the future?
09:56So
09:58Diala
09:59who's
09:59here
10:01we
10:02in
10:032016
10:05Maurice
10:06it was the
10:07150
10:08anniversary
10:08of the
10:09of when
10:10the founder
10:11of Fiat
10:11my great
10:12great grandfather
10:12Giovanni Agnelli
10:15was born.
10:16And so
10:16we were thinking
10:17how can we
10:18make
10:19and do something
10:20to remember him?
10:22He was a
10:22great pioneer
10:23and he really
10:25combined
10:27entrepreneurialism
10:28and understanding
10:29of technology
10:30and was a
10:31great innovator
10:32at that time.
10:34And
10:34we felt
10:35that Italy
10:36had very strong
10:37entrepreneurial
10:38abilities
10:39and very strong
10:40technical knowledge
10:42but they often
10:43did not combine.
10:44So that's when
10:45we started
10:46with these
10:46different projects
10:47that today
10:48have become
10:49Vento
10:49which is the
10:50largest investor
10:51seeds
10:52early stage
10:53investor
10:54in Italian
10:55founders
10:55in Italy
10:56and in the world.
10:57So we have
10:58more than
10:58120 companies
11:00as of now
11:00of which
11:01six
11:02were the
11:03Y Combinator
11:03that just
11:04finished now.
11:06And then
11:06we started
11:07very small
11:09in 2018
11:11the Italian
11:12Tech Week
11:12100 people
11:13and following
11:15the great
11:16example
11:17and lead
11:17that you
11:18have built
11:19here
11:19Viva Tech
11:19last year
11:20we were
11:2015,000
11:21with 180
11:22guests.
11:24And the
11:25objective
11:25is really
11:26to try
11:27and help
11:27our country
11:28or more
11:29than help
11:30to give
11:32our country
11:33give back
11:33to our country
11:34what is happening
11:36in Italy
11:36and outside
11:37and how
11:38the strength
11:39of Italy
11:40both as
11:41entrepreneurial
11:41country
11:42and also
11:43country of
11:43great innovators
11:44could combine
11:45and create
11:46a lot
11:47of real
11:49activity
11:49for this
11:50century.
11:51So this
11:51is kind
11:52of like
11:53Y Combinator?
11:55We have
11:55our version
11:56of Y Combinator
11:57plus
11:58we invest.
12:00So every
12:00year you
12:01should come
12:01I would like
12:03to invite you
12:05to come
12:07in Torino
12:07and spend
12:09time with
12:10the founders
12:11of the
12:12Vento
12:12complex.
12:13So how
12:14do you
12:14select
12:14the
12:15happy
12:16people
12:16that are
12:17receiving
12:19the funds
12:21that
12:21will be
12:23are they
12:26incubated
12:27or it
12:28is just
12:28that
12:29you
12:30give
12:31some
12:31seed money?
12:32We do
12:33both.
12:34So we
12:34have one
12:35batch
12:36which is
12:36selected
12:36who are
12:39entrepreneurs
12:39who want
12:40to do
12:41their
12:42projects
12:42so we
12:43do
12:43an
12:43incubator
12:44and
12:45that's
12:46one
12:46program.
12:47You incubate
12:47them
12:48and they
12:49are incubated
12:49at
12:50Vento?
12:51In Vento.
12:52In Vento.
12:53So Vento
12:54is both
12:55an investor
12:56and an
12:56incubator.
12:57Exactly.
12:58And an
12:58organizer.
12:59And an
12:59organizer.
13:00That's
13:01great.
13:02And a
13:02great
13:03competitor.
13:04No,
13:05on the
13:05contrary.
13:06It makes
13:07these events
13:09better.
13:10I agree.
13:10and we
13:13don't do
13:13it at
13:13the same
13:13period.
13:14So you
13:14do it
13:15now,
13:15we do
13:16it after
13:16the
13:16summer.
13:18Early
13:18September?
13:19We do
13:20it early
13:20October.
13:21October.
13:22Yeah.
13:22Okay,
13:22so right
13:23after the
13:24vacation.
13:24You are
13:25taking four
13:26months of
13:26vacation?
13:28After
13:29the
13:29vacations.
13:30To recover
13:31from the
13:32vacation.
13:32When you
13:33recover from
13:34vacation.
13:35Coming back
13:36to the
13:37selection,
13:37you have
13:38a jury,
13:42it is
13:42just the
13:44team who
13:45is selecting
13:45it.
13:46If I
13:47want to
13:48be incubated,
13:49I have to
13:51raise my
13:52hand,
13:52present my
13:53project,
13:54say,
13:55show my
13:57business plan
13:57and I will
13:58get the
13:58money?
13:59So it's
14:01really...
14:01important for
14:03the people
14:03who are in
14:03the room
14:04because I'm
14:05sure that
14:05they are not
14:06only Italian
14:06but a lot
14:07of people
14:07would need
14:08some seed
14:09money.
14:09So we're
14:10interested in
14:10Italian
14:11founders and
14:12companies in
14:13Italy.
14:14So they
14:15have to
14:16build a
14:16company in
14:17When you
14:17want to
14:17build your
14:18company in
14:18Italy,
14:19you should
14:19apply to
14:20Vento.
14:20And it's
14:21a very
14:21rigorous
14:22process.
14:23If you
14:24want us
14:24to invest,
14:25we have a
14:26very clear
14:27process that's
14:29very automated
14:30that basically
14:31screens and
14:32then we have
14:33a very deep
14:36qualitative
14:37assessment.
14:39And so
14:40they are
14:41incubated,
14:42they receive
14:43support for
14:45their business
14:46plan and
14:47they have
14:48all the
14:49access to
14:50all the
14:51facilities that
14:52they need.
14:52Correct.
14:54And you
14:56follow them
14:57step by
14:58step.
14:58So after
14:59the first
15:00investment,
15:01you can
15:02still...
15:03We don't
15:03invest in
15:05all of the
15:05ones that
15:06are incubated.
15:07No, you
15:07don't.
15:08So we have
15:09invested in a
15:11third of the
15:12ones that
15:12were incubated.
15:13You have
15:13selected out
15:14of ten,
15:15three.
15:16And if
15:18they grow,
15:20you can
15:20invest even
15:22further.
15:23Yes.
15:24So we do
15:24seeds and
15:25then we do
15:26early stage.
15:27great.
15:28And this
15:29is helping
15:29Italy.
15:31That's our
15:32goal, is a
15:33very patriotic
15:34objective of
15:35really making
15:36sure that
15:37Italy does
15:39more with
15:40the great
15:40strength it
15:41has, both
15:42on
15:42entrepreneurialism
15:43and also
15:44ability to
15:45innovate and
15:45invent.
15:46So we share
15:47the same view
15:47because with
15:48escalators, this
15:49is what I'm
15:49doing and
15:50with Vivatec, I
15:52was considering
15:53that this will
15:54be helpful for
15:56France.
15:56And that's why
15:57we're partnering.
15:58We are partnering
15:59for many, many
16:00good reasons,
16:01including our
16:02friendship.
16:05You are a
16:07true Italian.
16:08And they wanted
16:09me to show that
16:10we have the
16:11Italian.
16:11Oh, yes.
16:13So that is
16:14first your...
16:16So we do a
16:17little advertisement.
16:19Yeah.
16:20Some advertisement
16:21for...
16:22Okay?
16:23Invest and chill.
16:24Come to Italian
16:25Tech Week in
16:26October.
16:27And come for
16:28the Tech Week
16:28in October.
16:29But you come
16:30back to Vivatec
16:31in Paris.
16:33And next year
16:34is the 10th
16:37anniversary.
16:38So it will be
16:392026 after the
16:412016 anniversary.
16:43But we will
16:44go to...
16:47Torino?
16:48Yes.
16:49For the Tech Week?
16:50Yes.
16:50Early?
16:51Done.
16:52Done.
16:52I will do it.
16:53But they're not
16:54that excited,
16:55eh, Maurice?
16:55Yeah.
16:56You know, it's...
16:57Not very...
16:58You know, it's
16:59the afternoon,
17:00it's nap time,
17:02they are tired.
17:04This...
17:05It's the end
17:06of the week.
17:08They need to be
17:09a little bit
17:10energized.
17:11You know,
17:12it's complicated
17:13with the young
17:14people today.
17:16I would like
17:17to add something.
17:18You are...
17:21born in Italy,
17:23or Italian,
17:25Italian by heart,
17:26Italian by nationality,
17:28European,
17:29global,
17:30you have your heart
17:32in Europe.
17:33Studied in French
17:35school.
17:36Yeah,
17:36absolutely.
17:37And when it comes
17:39to Europe,
17:40I know that
17:41you have participated
17:44and you have
17:45had the preparation
17:47of the
17:51AI Summit,
17:53the Paris AI Summit.
17:54I would like
17:55that you
17:57give a little bit
17:59your opinion
18:01on what are
18:02the biggest threats
18:04and the biggest
18:06opportunities.
18:07I have to tell you
18:09that you have
18:10to be serious
18:11in the answers
18:12because I will
18:14have in the
18:15following session
18:16Thierry Bauton
18:17and Henri Coletta
18:19and they will
18:20have to answer
18:21your question
18:23and to react
18:25to what you
18:26consider as being
18:27the biggest threats
18:28and the biggest
18:30opportunities.
18:32So I think
18:34the biggest limitation
18:36more than threat
18:36is really around
18:38mindset
18:38and I think
18:39it's important
18:40for Europe
18:41and Europeans
18:42to be ambitious
18:43but not delusional.
18:45I also believe
18:46that we have
18:47incredible strengths.
18:48So if you stay
18:49within innovation
18:50and technology,
18:51we've been a big
18:52supporter of CERN.
18:54CERN is the most
18:55advanced research
18:57center
18:58in the world
18:59and that's a
19:01core pillar
19:02and strength
19:03that we have
19:03in Europe
19:04which sees
19:06people from
19:07many countries,
19:08many different
19:09religions,
19:10all come together
19:11peacefully
19:12to really understand
19:14what exists
19:16and through
19:17fundamental research
19:18in physics.
19:20That is a pillar
19:21that shows
19:22how in Europe
19:23which has the
19:24most density
19:25of the best
19:26technical schools,
19:28schools and
19:30engineering schools
19:32and science
19:33universities
19:34in the world.
19:36That is incredible.
19:38How do you make
19:39sure that that
19:40is also
19:41unleashable
19:42in inventing,
19:44in creating
19:45is again
19:46a question
19:47of where you look.
19:48So if you take
19:49healthcare,
19:50Europe
19:51covers
19:52healthcare,
19:53basic and not
19:54basic healthcare
19:55has the highest
19:56coverage than
19:57in any part
19:58in the world.
19:58And if you compare
20:00the cost of healthcare
20:02in Europe,
20:02it's half the cost
20:04in the US.
20:05And if you look at
20:06how much we're inventing
20:09in Europe,
20:10in this so important
20:12sector,
20:13it just shows you
20:14that we just need
20:16to go look
20:17where we are strong,
20:18be proud of it,
20:19and do more.
20:22Merci.
20:22What do you think?
20:26I would like that.
20:27They don't seem
20:27that convinced.
20:28Are you convinced?
20:30Are you convinced?
20:31Yes.
20:32Yes.
20:35Merci.
20:36Thank you, John.
20:38Merci beaucoup.
20:40Merci.
20:41You are great
20:42as always.
20:43You are great.
20:44Thank you.
20:45And I will go to
20:46Italian Pequit
20:49Invento.
20:49Invento.
20:50Invento.
20:52You send me
20:52the invitation.
20:53Thank you.
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