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How Is e-Health Transforming Medicine
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00:00Et merci à tous de rester avec nous pour cette dernière session
00:05dédiée au secteur de la santé.
00:08Je suis ici avec Antoine Tenier,
00:10qui est le directeur général de Paris Santé Campus.
00:14Bienvenue à vous.
00:15Merci d'être avec nous.
00:16Merci.
00:17Et peut-être nous pouvons commencer par clarifier
00:19ce qu'on veut dire par e-health.
00:22Absolument.
00:23E-health est tout à fait de transformer
00:25le système général et le système de santé général
00:28avec digital approaches, digital tools et digital use.
00:32So, what are the benefits for the patients
00:35et pour le health professionnels?
00:37Well, there are a large number of benefits, of course.
00:41Perhaps, a very concrete example,
00:44make easy access to healthcare,
00:47improve diagnostic accuracy,
00:50it's been discussed in the past session,
00:53improve the flow of information,
00:55avoid repeated examinations,
00:57for example, when information is not shared
01:00between healthcare professionals.
01:02And to a larger extent,
01:03if you take digital transformation of other sectors,
01:06for example, music, transportation, communication,
01:09you can think of the huge benefits and advances
01:12that such implications can create for health.
01:15So, knowing this,
01:18what exactly is your work at Paris Santé Campus?
01:21Well, my work here at Paris Santé Campus
01:23is creating the conditions of an acceleration
01:26for digital health to transform healthcare.
01:29So, it's basically creating a whole ecosystem
01:31with key players,
01:32researchers, caregivers, students,
01:35startups, large groups, corporate groups,
01:38and public institutions,
01:40all bringing people all together
01:42so they can invent, collaborate,
01:45and create healthcare for tomorrow.
01:47You just evoked public institutions.
01:50I'd like to stop there for a minute
01:52because, from what I understand,
01:55one of your objectives
01:56is to help France transition towards e-health.
02:00So, how exactly is France actually driving
02:03the medical innovation in this field?
02:06So, it's absolutely essential to promote e-health,
02:09and we've seen that it's a large trend
02:10throughout the world globally.
02:12Very interestingly,
02:13some of the COVID lessons and inputs
02:16is actually a fast acceleration
02:18for digital solutions
02:20that provided concrete answers
02:22to the critical aspect of the COVID crisis.
02:26I can think, for example,
02:27of the ability to have telemedicine,
02:29when the people are staying at home,
02:32and the ability to have a doctor online,
02:34which was not very largely used before.
02:39That's one very concrete example.
02:41But also, the ability to design
02:43therapeutic solutions.
02:44Vaccine, for example, for COVID,
02:46has been designed with digital tools,
02:49very interestingly.
02:50It can also help to gain information
02:53on a disease.
02:54Think of this.
02:55It's the first time throughout the world
02:56that we have real-time
02:58and geographically
03:00really wide information
03:02on the dissemination
03:04of an epidemic threat.
03:06In France, for example,
03:08but in many other countries,
03:10we have the ability now
03:11to have every day
03:12the number of COVID cases
03:14throughout the territory.
03:16And this was not possible before.
03:19So, a large investment
03:21in a digital solution for healthcare
03:24yields such progress.
03:26And with the help
03:27of five national institutions
03:29that created four research institutes
03:32with a large expertise center
03:36and more than six startups
03:38gathered on one site,
03:40the ambition of Paris Santé Campus
03:41is to create a transformation
03:43of healthcare with digital tools.
03:45Is there any way,
03:48well, I'm asking this question
03:49because, as we all know,
03:51France has one of the most generous
03:54healthcare systems in the world.
03:55Is there any way
03:56that investing in digital healthcare
03:59can alleviate some of the costs, perhaps?
04:02Absolutely.
04:02And this is a crucial question
04:04because just the simple equation
04:07in France of having social security
04:10funded by the population
04:12with a large increase in the needs,
04:15especially with aging,
04:17for example,
04:18in the healthcare consumption,
04:20will increase the costs
04:22of our healthcare system.
04:24So, finding solutions
04:25to make sure that we can have
04:26economically relevant approaches
04:29is absolutely mandatory.
04:30For example,
04:31when you can think
04:32of sharing information
04:34with digital tools,
04:36digital platforms,
04:37for example,
04:38this very simple aspect
04:39that we do on an everyday basis
04:40when you share photography,
04:43documents, etc.,
04:44of course,
04:45in a secure fashion here,
04:46will help to avoid
04:48more than 20% to 30%
04:50non-needed examination
04:52for patients.
04:53It's the ratio,
04:54at the moment in France,
04:55that is evaluated
04:58to be non-necessary.
05:00So, for example,
05:01reducing 20% to 30%
05:03of classical examination
05:04will necessarily yield
05:06to economy.
05:07Another example,
05:09if you are ill,
05:10if you have breast cancer,
05:12that was a topic
05:12of the last session,
05:14making sure that you enter
05:16in a very efficient fashion,
05:18the path for cure
05:20is absolutely mandatory
05:21because if you lose time,
05:23if you have your CT scan late,
05:25if you don't have
05:26the right correspondence
05:27for surgery, etc.,
05:29you also lose chances.
05:30And not only chances
05:32in terms of ethical aspect,
05:35but also it's a very major
05:37economic burden
05:37for the system.
05:39So, we have been speaking
05:41since we started
05:42this conversation
05:43about all the positives
05:44of e-health.
05:46Why isn't it everywhere?
05:47What are the hurdles
05:48stopping us?
05:49It's everywhere
05:50because basically
05:51you are working
05:52with digital tools
05:53in your everyday life.
05:55So, when you take the train,
05:56you take an electronic ticket,
05:58when you take the plane,
05:59when you send an email,
06:00when you send a text message,
06:01it basically has invaded our life.
06:04And so, very logically,
06:06it also invades healthcare
06:07with specific aspects.
06:10The first one is that
06:11it needs to be fully secured.
06:13of course.
06:14You don't want anyone
06:15to mess up
06:15with your personal data
06:16and share
06:18non-expected
06:20medical information.
06:22Absolutely.
06:22That's the first step.
06:24Second step
06:25is that it also has
06:26to be ethically relevant
06:27and making sure
06:28that the information
06:29that you provide
06:30are used
06:31for your own good.
06:32and when they're used
06:34for the public good
06:34or they're used
06:36in an anonymous fashion.
06:38And so, basically,
06:39we will see more
06:40and more aspects
06:41of digital tools
06:43invading healthcare.
06:44We need to make sure
06:45that the cycle
06:46of innovation
06:47that are growing
06:48faster and faster
06:49are aligned
06:51with the pace
06:52of optimal use
06:55in the population.
06:56Meaning that
06:57healthcare professionals
06:58and citizens
07:00sometimes need time
07:02to actually
07:02appropriate
07:04these new tools
07:05and these new usage.
07:07And we need to make sure
07:08that we can combine
07:09the two
07:10to make sure
07:11that innovation
07:11really gets
07:12at the end of the line
07:13for impact
07:15on our everyday life.
07:17How can we do that?
07:18Because you're saying
07:19that digital is everywhere
07:21but the truth is
07:22it's not really
07:23everywhere for everyone.
07:25Some people have
07:25difficulty accessing it.
07:27Some people have
07:27difficulty using it.
07:29Is there also
07:30some form of communication
07:31for the general public
07:33to accompany this
07:34that should be done?
07:35So it's part of it
07:36but it's also having
07:37a systems view,
07:40an overall view
07:40with a chain of value.
07:42Understanding that
07:43innovation creates
07:44impact
07:45when it finds
07:47specific markets,
07:49when it brings
07:49positive aspects
07:51for the population.
07:52That's one thing.
07:53For this
07:54you will need to have
07:56researchers,
07:57inventors
07:58that create solutions.
07:59you will need to have
08:02investors
08:02and advices
08:04for companies
08:06to grow,
08:07public expenses
08:08to make sure
08:09that the markets
08:10are here
08:10and the companies
08:11can grow
08:12and you will also
08:13need to have
08:14public information
08:15to make sure
08:16that everyone
08:16understands
08:17the beneficial
08:18aspect of
08:19this innovation
08:20and to a larger
08:21extent also
08:22training for the
08:24healthcare workforce
08:25which is really
08:26important
08:27because things
08:28go faster
08:29and faster
08:30and every month,
08:31every week
08:32you have an innovation
08:34that changes
08:35the way they
08:35practice healthcare
08:36practically.
08:37Constant learning
08:38for the healthcare
08:39centres and the workers.
08:41Our past sessions
08:42today have looked
08:44at innovation trends
08:45in medicine
08:45ranging from
08:46virtual twins
08:48of patients
08:49to regenerative
08:51medicine.
08:51Are there any
08:53innovations,
08:54any new trends
08:55that you are
08:56focusing on
08:57at Paris Santé Campus?
08:59Of course
09:00and it's absolutely
09:01fascinating to see
09:02the way healthcare
09:03is revolutionized
09:05by digital tools.
09:07Again,
09:08I mentioned earlier
09:09another sector
09:10that has been
09:12dramatically changed
09:13which is music.
09:14If you think
09:15the way music
09:15was provided
09:16before,
09:17it was an orchestra
09:18in a castle
09:19or somewhere,
09:20there was no
09:21possibility
09:21to store it
09:22to record it
09:22and then someone
09:23invented
09:25vinyls,
09:26classical discs
09:27and CDs
09:27which gave
09:28the ability
09:29to store
09:29more and more
09:30data
09:30and now
09:31no one
09:31is using
09:32CDs or tapes
09:32anymore
09:33but providing
09:34music online.
09:36So there are
09:36a number of
09:37examples
09:37in healthcare
09:38on how
09:40everything
09:41can be changed
09:42by digital tools.
09:44For concrete
09:45answer to your
09:46question,
09:47for example,
09:48you can change
09:49the way
09:49people interact
09:50with healthcare
09:51professionals.
09:52So I mentioned
09:52telemedicine
09:53which will
09:54probably replace
09:56parts of the
09:57relationship
09:58with healthcare
09:59providers.
10:00You can also
10:01think of gaining
10:02access to
10:03information.
10:04For example,
10:05a few years ago
10:06when you were
10:06looking for
10:07information on
10:08such and such
10:09disease,
10:09you had to go
10:11into very
10:11complicated books
10:13that were not
10:15easily accessible
10:16but now
10:17with your
10:17own smartphone
10:18you can have
10:18access to
10:19very public
10:22information,
10:22very simple
10:23information
10:23that can give
10:25you access
10:25to information
10:26and can empower
10:27patients to be
10:28really at the
10:28center of their
10:29own health
10:30which is
10:30absolutely
10:31important.
10:33On a more
10:34technical aspect,
10:36data strategy,
10:38artificial intelligence
10:39will dramatically
10:40change the way
10:41healthcare providers
10:42are today
10:43providing care
10:45and making
10:45diagnosis.
10:46It's absolutely
10:48fascinating to
10:49understand that
10:49for example,
10:50when you try and
10:51diagnose a chest
10:52pain,
10:53you can ask
10:53questions to
10:54your patient
10:55but when you
10:56actually apply
10:57an algorithm
10:58to the vocal
11:00frequency of your
11:01patient,
11:02you are actually
11:02able to
11:03diagnose with
11:04the best
11:05accuracy
11:05chest pain
11:07the origin of
11:08myocardial
11:08infarction.
11:09And it's the
11:10same with
11:11x-ray and
11:12image recognition
11:13for example,
11:15you can improve
11:16dramatically the
11:17way diagnosis
11:19are performed.
11:20So that's another
11:20example.
11:21I mentioned
11:22later drug
11:23design for
11:23example,
11:24you used to
11:25have chemical
11:29aspects or
11:30manipulation to
11:31create molecules,
11:32now everything
11:33is virtually
11:34provided.
11:35So the number
11:36of companies
11:36at Paris
11:37Santé Campus
11:37that are
11:38representing
11:39all these
11:39sectors.
11:40Doctolib for
11:41example is
11:41one of the
11:42French champions
11:43reinventing
11:44connection between
11:45healthcare
11:46professionals and
11:47patients with
11:48telemedicine and
11:49agenda platforms.
11:52Akemia is
11:53another company
11:54which is
11:55actually here
11:55dramatically
11:56changing the
11:57way drugs are
11:58designed with
11:59virtual tools and
12:00quantic computing.
12:02Quantic for
12:03example is
12:04another very
12:05interesting company
12:06that is providing
12:07the ability to
12:09have vital signs
12:10through the
12:11camera of your
12:12smartphone.
12:13So just
12:14looking at
12:14your smartphone
12:15can help you
12:16understand your
12:17heart rate and
12:18other vital signs.
12:19It's absolutely
12:20fascinating.
12:21So there are a
12:22number of
12:22examples like
12:23this of very
12:25bright companies
12:26that are really
12:28fundamentally
12:29changing the way
12:30healthcare would
12:30be provided.
12:32and most
12:33interestingly the
12:36specificity of
12:37Paris Santé
12:37Campus is
12:38having together
12:39research and
12:40entrepreneurship
12:41together.
12:43In healthcare
12:43more than 60%
12:45of the companies
12:46are actually
12:47created from the
12:48academic and
12:49research sector
12:50which really is
12:51relevant with this
12:53chain of value
12:53that we're trying
12:54to create between
12:55research and
12:56innovation and
12:57entrepreneurship.
12:58So having a
12:59whole ecosystem
12:59where the idea
13:01is that you
13:02can have very
13:03important discoveries
13:04in research and
13:05with this you can
13:06create products,
13:08you can create
13:08company and you
13:09can create value
13:10at the end of the
13:11line for your
13:12passion at the
13:13medical and
13:13scientific level and
13:15that an economical
13:15level is absolutely
13:17essential today.
13:18You have a very
13:19valuable view on
13:21the whole ecosystem.
13:22This is the word
13:23that you just used.
13:24So I'm going to
13:25end with this
13:26final question.
13:27What would you
13:27say to somebody
13:29who is a healthcare
13:31professional or a
13:32patient and who is
13:33afraid that we are
13:35replacing human
13:36connection with data?
13:38I would say two
13:40things.
13:40One is that people
13:41used to be afraid
13:42when electricity came
13:44a long time ago
13:45and at the end of
13:47course there were
13:47many risks that
13:48were anticipated
13:49but when you look
13:50at the progress that
13:51has been made it's
13:52absolutely essential.
13:53So looking at the
13:54past gives us a
13:56number of examples
13:57of the progress and
13:58so that's one
13:59thing and not
14:00being afraid also
14:01comes with being
14:02active in the
14:03transformation.
14:04If you're just
14:06in the back
14:07well change is
14:09being driven
14:11without you.
14:11It's absolutely
14:12essential that the
14:13healthcare professional
14:14play an active role
14:15in defining what's
14:16good for their
14:17patient, what's
14:18good for their
14:18practice and what
14:19at the end will
14:20provide impact.
14:21Thank you so much.
14:22Let's give a round of
14:23applause everybody.
14:24Thank you.
14:24Thank you for being
14:25here and thank you
14:27for your attention
14:27both in the room or
14:29remotely.
14:30It's been a pleasure
14:31to accompany you
14:32today.
14:33Do continue checking
14:33in on our sessions.
14:35Viva Tech continues
14:36today and tomorrow.
14:38Goodbye.
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