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05:05state. They want to get it in a
05:07peace settlement and the European Union is
05:09going to have to get very creative to
05:12this, but the two are increasingly
05:13intertwined. This peace deal and this
05:15date, they have become now one.
05:17Maria, thank you so much for bringing us up to speed
05:19on everything from the Munich Security
05:21Conference. And to discuss
05:23all of this further, I'm glad to say we're joined
05:25now by Fabrice Poitier, the CEO
05:28of Rasmussen Global, who
05:29previously also served as Director of
05:32Policy Planning for the NATO
05:33Alliance. Sir, welcome. It's great to have you on the show
05:35this morning. Now, I'd like to get
05:37your take first on Rubio's Munich
05:40speech. Were you reassured when
05:41he spoke of an intertwined
05:43destiny for the US and Europe?
05:45Or does Europe still need to realise it cannot
05:48do it alone and needs a plan
05:49B for its security?
05:52I would say it's probably
05:53both. There was clearly
05:55a feeling of calm before the next
05:58tempest,
05:59where obviously Rubio cast
06:01a tone that was much more friendly
06:03than the previous
06:05US speaker
06:07at the previous MSC,
06:09J.D. Vance, who really
06:11kind of opened almost hostility
06:13against Europe.
06:15However, I think nobody was
06:17naive in thinking that
06:19this is not an olive branch. This is
06:21just a way to make the
06:23past few months a bit
06:25less painful. But
06:27clearly the roll ahead, as I mentioned,
06:30this is camp before the next tempest,
06:31because the road ahead is still
06:33made of many differences.
06:35I think Ukraine is still lurking
06:37very much around the corner in terms
06:39of big US-Europe-Ukraine
06:42difference. And
06:43Greenland is not completely, in a way,
06:45solved. And I think the Danish prime
06:47minister was pretty clear about that.
06:49And do you think Greenland could be the next storm?
06:52Because we heard from Mette Friedrichsen,
06:53the Danish prime minister, over the weekend,
06:55suggesting Donald Trump is still
06:57very serious about buying the island.
06:59Do you agree with her that there's still
07:01a big risk there for the NATO alliance?
07:05Clearly, the problem is there is a mismatch
07:07between what the Danes,
07:09the Europeans are trying to do,
07:11which is to improve support to Greenland,
07:13both on the security and the economic front,
07:16which is a rational way
07:17of addressing possible
07:21vulnerabilities out there.
07:22And the US president
07:24just takes a very emotional,
07:26personal view, that he just wants
07:27to own that piece of estate.
07:30He's thinking like
07:31Manhattan real estate
07:34moguls. So he doesn't
07:36take a very rational approach to it.
07:38And that's the mismatch that I think
07:39the Danes are trying to
07:41manage with a diplomatic process.
07:44How long the diplomatic process
07:45is going to keep things together?
07:47This is the big question mark.
07:49I think we have to be ready
07:50for the next crisis.
07:52And clearly the show of unity
07:54by the Europeans in addressing
07:56the US threat on Greenland
07:57worked once and may have
07:59to work another time,
08:01but we will have to be willing
08:02to put even more skin in this game.
08:04You obviously shaped
08:06NATO policy for many years.
08:08Do you think there's a real crisis
08:09within the HQ here in Brussels?
08:12You know, we heard EU leaders
08:14von der Leyen talking about
08:16reactivating the EU's
08:17own defence clause over the weekend,
08:19seemingly because they cannot rely
08:20on NATO's Article 5.
08:22Is the NATO alliance,
08:23as we've known it for decades,
08:25now dead?
08:25It's gone.
08:26Well, I think it's not
08:28reactivating the EU
08:29mutual defence clause.
08:30It's making it real
08:32as a start,
08:33because it's never been
08:34taken really seriously.
08:36But on your NATO question,
08:38I think we are entering
08:39the age of parallel universes,
08:41where NATO is still
08:42going to be there.
08:44It's still a very much
08:45a valid option
08:47for the Europeans,
08:48both in terms of
08:49US extended nuclear deterrent,
08:51but also in terms of framework
08:53to plan and prevent
08:55the next war against Russia.
08:57However, clearly,
08:59what you hear in the corridors,
09:00but also in the main hallway,
09:02is that we need to start
09:04thinking about Plan Bs.
09:05And for that,
09:07you're going to have
09:07the European Union,
09:08but you also are going
09:09to have increasingly
09:11the development of coalitions,
09:13like the Coalition of the
09:14Willing for Ukraine,
09:16which maybe is going to be
09:17put with more substance,
09:18or the joint expeditionary
09:21force that is led by the UK.
09:22So I think you are going
09:23to have the multiplication
09:24of all these Plan Bs
09:26in response to the fact
09:27that, answering your question,
09:29I think the US has introduced
09:30a very significant doubt
09:32as to its commitment
09:34to Europe via NATO.
09:36And therefore,
09:36NATO is still going to go on,
09:38but it's no longer
09:39the one and only Plan A.
09:41Fabrice Potier,
09:42that's all we have time
09:43for this morning,
09:44but thank you so much
09:45for coming on and joining us
09:46and sharing your insights.
09:48Now, as we mentioned there,
09:50the President of the
09:51European Commission
09:51said in Munich over the weekend
09:53that the EU needs to bring
09:54its own mutual defence clause
09:57to life,
09:58saying,
09:59you change or you die.
10:00Our reporter,
10:01Jakob Janis,
10:02has been scouring
10:03through the EU treaties
10:04in search of this
10:06little-known
10:06mutual defence clause.
10:10Did you know the EU
10:12has its own
10:12mutual defence clause?
10:14Your reporter didn't.
10:16But suddenly,
10:17it is the hottest topic
10:18in Europe.
10:19Just days ago,
10:21the head of NATO
10:21told Europe to
10:23keep dreaming
10:23if they think
10:24they can defend themselves
10:25without the US.
10:27But the EU Commission
10:28President fired back.
10:30Independent Europe
10:31just means
10:31let's develop
10:32our strength
10:33without constantly
10:34leaning on someone else.
10:36And part of her plan
10:37involves a little-known rule,
10:39the Article 42.7.
10:42So,
10:43what is it?
10:44It says
10:45if an EU country
10:46is attacked,
10:48all their members
10:48have an obligation
10:49to help.
10:50And on paper,
10:51the wording
10:52seems to be stronger
10:53than NATO's famous
10:54Article 5.
10:55it doesn't even require
10:57a unanimous vote
10:58to activate.
10:59But there is a catch.
11:01The EU is not
11:02a military alliance
11:04and it lacks
11:05a unified command structure
11:06and it leaves it
11:08up to each country
11:09to decide how to help,
11:11which does not
11:12automatically mean
11:13sending troops.
11:14And in fact,
11:15it has only been
11:16triggered once,
11:17after the 2015
11:19Paris attacks.
11:21Plus,
11:21there is a trust gap
11:22when Eastern European nations
11:25look for a true
11:26security shield.
11:27They look to NATO,
11:29not Brussels.
11:31But with Washington
11:32demanding Europe
11:33to take over
11:34its own conventional defense
11:36and with growing doubts
11:37around the future of NATO,
11:39the clock is ticking.
11:41The EU is also wondering
11:43what happens
11:44if the US closes
11:46its nuclear umbrella
11:47over Europe
11:48and building
11:49a fully independent
11:50European nuclear shield
11:51would cost billions of euros
11:53and take time.
11:55So Europe
11:56has the treaty
11:57and the article.
11:58Now it just
11:59must build
12:00the military strength
12:01to back it up.
12:07Jakob Yanis
12:08reporting there.
12:09Now,
12:10as we just heard,
12:11European leaders
12:12are reigniting
12:13the debate
12:14on a common
12:15European nuclear umbrella
12:17amid the continued
12:18threats from Russia
12:19and eroding
12:20trust in the US.
12:22Joining me
12:22in the studio
12:23to explain more
12:24is our defense reporter
12:25Alice Tidy,
12:27also freshly back
12:28from Munich for us.
12:29Good morning.
12:30Alice,
12:30lots of Europeans
12:31talking about this
12:33over the weekend,
12:33the need for
12:34common homegrown
12:35European nuclear deterrence.
12:38why now?
12:39Well,
12:40basically,
12:41the Europeans,
12:42although they've
12:43gone to great length
12:44over the past week
12:44to say that they believe
12:45that the US
12:46is fully committed
12:47to NATO,
12:47that they believe
12:48it is committed
12:48today,
12:49tomorrow,
12:49that it will be
12:49in 10 years,
12:50that it will be
12:50in 20 years,
12:52there are still
12:52a lot of concerns
12:54over that commitment.
12:55I mean,
12:55remember that last year
12:57Washington
12:58cast doubt
12:59over its commitment
13:00to Article 5,
13:01so Europeans
13:01responded by
13:02more than doubling
13:02their spending target
13:03within the alliance,
13:04and yet this year
13:06we had Trump
13:07saying that he
13:07would forcefully
13:08seize Greenland,
13:09so that cast
13:10a lot of doubt
13:11over the very
13:12existence of NATO.
13:14And obviously
13:14the US has also
13:15said that he wants
13:16to pull back,
13:17but there's a lot
13:18of unsaid yet
13:19over how that
13:20partial pullback
13:21would happen
13:21and whether or not
13:22this could include
13:23the nuclear deterrent,
13:24right?
13:24So over the weekend,
13:25indeed,
13:26we had French
13:27President Emmanuel Macron
13:28announcing that he
13:30had held strategic
13:30dialogue with
13:32Chancellor Mertz
13:33on this topic,
13:34as well as
13:35with other EU leaders.
13:37He didn't name
13:37those other EU leaders,
13:39but we know,
13:40for instance,
13:40that the Latvian PM,
13:42Evika Selina,
13:43said that she
13:44would be open
13:45to that discussion.
13:47We also had
13:48the Polish president
13:49yesterday telling
13:50Polish media
13:51that he wants
13:53his armed forces
13:54to look into
13:55the nuclear potential.
13:56And I also spoke
13:58with the Finnish
13:59Defense Minister,
14:00Antti Hakkinen,
14:01on the sidelines
14:02of the conference,
14:03who said,
14:04and I quote here,
14:05inside NATO,
14:06it's clear
14:06that the US
14:07is ironclad
14:08committed
14:09to nuclear deterrence.
14:10It's good news
14:11if the European
14:12nuclear states
14:13are investing
14:13to build up
14:14even stronger
14:15nuclear capabilities,
14:16but to compensate
14:17the US,
14:18that's not
14:18the question now.
14:19So Finland
14:20would be open,
14:21but again,
14:22this European
14:23deterrent
14:24would have to
14:25complement
14:25the US
14:26and not compensate it.
14:28So it's clearly
14:28an idea
14:29gaining traction
14:30among European leaders.
14:32But at the same time,
14:33Alice,
14:33it's still very,
14:34very divisive,
14:35this question
14:36of nuclear rearmament.
14:37And we heard
14:38from the Spanish
14:38Prime Minister,
14:39Pedro Sánchez,
14:40clearly voicing
14:41some reservations
14:42about this.
14:43Yes,
14:44it did.
14:44Sánchez was
14:44at the Munich
14:45conference
14:46and he made it clear
14:47he's not
14:47for nuclear rearmament.
14:49In fact,
14:49he said
14:50that the
14:51nuclear deterrence
14:52is far too costly,
14:54far too risky,
14:56is far too risky
14:57way of avoiding
14:58conflict.
14:59And he said
14:59that what it involves,
15:00the risks it involves,
15:02are actually
15:02more of a gamble
15:03than a guarantee
15:04for European security.
15:05Clearly still
15:06some divided opinions
15:07on that subject,
15:08but thank you so much
15:09for bringing us
15:10that update.
15:11Moving on now
15:12to something
15:12completely different,
15:13the Berlin Film Festival
15:15has only been running
15:16for a few days,
15:17yet already
15:18there is significant
15:19controversy
15:20over comments
15:21made by members
15:22of the jury.
15:23To explain,
15:24we can cross over
15:24now to Berlin
15:25where our correspondent
15:27Laura Fleischmann
15:28is standing by for us,
15:30I believe.
15:30Laura,
15:31good morning.
15:32Bring us up to speed
15:33what has been
15:34happening here.
15:37Well,
15:38at first,
15:39everything seemed
15:39to go smoothly
15:40at the Berlinale,
15:41but then a German
15:42journalist asked
15:43a question
15:44at a press conference
15:45with a jury
15:46of the festival.
15:47He accused them
15:49of what he called
15:49selective solidarity
15:51only with Iranians
15:52and Ukrainians,
15:54but not with Palestinians.
15:56And one of the festival's
15:57jurors then responded
15:58that there are many
15:59conflicts going on
16:00worldwide
16:01that don't get any
16:02attention at the festival
16:03either.
16:04But what really
16:05sparked controversy
16:06was the response
16:07by Wim Wenders.
16:08He is the president
16:09of the jury
16:10and a very famous
16:11German filmmaker.
16:12He said that
16:13the festival
16:14is a counterweight
16:16to politics
16:17and this even
16:18led an Indian writer
16:19to pull out
16:20from the festival
16:21altogether.
16:21But let's hear
16:22what Wim Wenders
16:23actually said
16:24at the press conference.
16:25We have to stay
16:27out of politics
16:27because
16:29if we
16:31made
16:33movies that are
16:35dedicatedly
16:36political
16:37we enter
16:38the field
16:38of politics
16:39but we are
16:40the counterweight
16:40to politics.
16:42We are the opposite
16:43of politics.
16:44We have to do
16:45the work of people
16:46and not the work
16:47of politicians.
16:48Yes, and Laura
16:50it's also true
16:51to say that
16:52these film festivals
16:53including the Berlinale
16:55are usually
16:55highly political
16:57very politically
16:58charged.
16:59Why the sudden
17:00change in tone
17:01here?
17:04Indeed
17:04the Berlinale
17:05is known as
17:06a highly political
17:07film festival
17:08and it still is.
17:09There are many
17:10political statements
17:11being made
17:12on the red carpet
17:12at press conferences
17:14but the change
17:15in tone
17:15could be due
17:16to Germany's
17:17history
17:18especially
17:18in regards
17:19to the Holocaust
17:20and in regards
17:22to World War II.
17:23Israel is a highly
17:24sensitive topic
17:25here in Germany
17:25and this could be
17:26the reason why
17:27Wim Wenders
17:28is hesitant
17:29in regards
17:29to Palestine
17:30and in politics
17:32in general
17:32but it could also
17:33be due to
17:34anti-Semitism
17:35being linked
17:36to some
17:37pro-Palestinian
17:37protests
17:38here in Germany.
17:39There are
17:40anti-Jewish
17:40chants,
17:41there are
17:41anti-Jewish
17:42and anti-Israel
17:43signs at some
17:44protests
17:45that aren't
17:45against the
17:46government
17:46but against
17:47the whole
17:47country's
17:48existence
17:48so this
17:49could be
17:50a reason
17:50why
17:51movie makers
17:51and actors
17:52don't want
17:52to be linked
17:53to this topic
17:54perhaps
17:54and also
17:55there has
17:56been a spike
17:56in anti-Semitism
17:58as of recently
17:59here in Germany
17:59and the festival's
18:01director
18:01Trisha Tuttle
18:02even came out
18:03and supported
18:04Wim Wenders
18:05after the controversy
18:06she said
18:07that it is
18:08as of recently
18:09often times
18:09expected
18:10of movie makers
18:11and actors
18:11to make
18:12political statements
18:13but they are
18:14mainly at the
18:14film festival
18:15to promote
18:16their work
18:17their movies
18:17they want
18:18to talk about
18:19what they did
18:19they don't want
18:20to talk about
18:21politics perhaps
18:22and it is
18:22their right
18:23of free speech
18:24to talk about
18:25whatever they
18:26please
18:26they can decide
18:27to not talk
18:28about politics
18:29but
18:29and they can also
18:30decide to talk
18:31about them
18:32but they get
18:33criticized
18:34either way
18:34that's what
18:35Trisha Tuttle
18:35said after
18:36the controversy
18:37broke loose
18:39Laura
18:39thank you so
18:40much for that
18:41update on
18:42the controversy
18:42surrounding the
18:43Berlinale Film
18:44Festival in Berlin
18:45but that's it
18:46from us for today
18:48we'll be back
18:48at the same time
18:49same place
18:50tomorrow
18:50in the meantime
18:52if you want to
18:52read more about
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