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Senator Francis “Kiko” Pangilinan and Senate Minority Leader Alan Peter Cayetano figured in a heated exchange on Monday, February 9, over a caricature used by Philippine Coast Guard spokesperson for the West Philippine Sea, Commodore Jay Tarriela, depicting Chinese President Xi Jinping.
The debate unfolded ahead of the Senate’s adoption of Proposed Senate Resolution No. 256, which condemns recent statements by the Chinese Embassy in Manila against Filipino officials who criticized Beijing’s actions in the disputed South China Sea.
The debate unfolded ahead of the Senate’s adoption of Proposed Senate Resolution No. 256, which condemns recent statements by the Chinese Embassy in Manila against Filipino officials who criticized Beijing’s actions in the disputed South China Sea.
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00:00Can I go to the point of the where-us clause that talks about the official duties and functions, no?
00:09So is it the official duty of Commodore Tariela to come out with a caricature against the Chinese president?
00:18Mr. President, may we know what where-us clause you're pertaining to, what number in the first page?
00:22The second one, Mr. President, the Philippine officials, including members of the Senate, House,
00:26and other made pronouncements on matters affecting national security, maritime interest in the lawful performance of their official duties and functions.
00:36So Mr. President, I've monitored yung kay SND, sa DND.
00:41I agree with some. Some iba may question. Kulang ko sa info.
00:44So hindi ko na tinanong yun.
00:45And when SND speaks, he's the alter ego of the president.
00:49But when Commodore Tariela speaks, I want to know, is that for the task force?
00:54Is that for DFA? Is that for the office of the president? Or is that for the coast guard?
01:00Because, Mr. President, official duties and functions, yun precisely ang tanong parate sa Department of Ministries of Foreign Affairs.
01:12Kung official o hindi. And usually we answer.
01:16So eto bang mga caricatures na to ay kay Commodore Tariela lang?
01:20Or eto ba'y official policy natin?
01:25Yes, Mr. President, the, the, my understanding is the statement issued and the caricature that was presented was undertaken
01:35during a Track 2 event in St. Benil's.
01:39Track 2 would be a informal academic discussion, Mr. President.
01:47So, in that sense, Mr. President, we see no reason why that should have been avoided, Mr. President.
01:57It's an informal academic discussion, Mr. President.
02:01Sir President, when you're a general, Commodore, wearing your uniform,
02:06hindi po Track 2 or 1.5 yun.
02:09Tatanungin ka talaga ng embassy.
02:12So kung meron general sa China na pumunta sa Harvard University or sa University of Tokyo
02:18or kahit anong university sa China at may caricature ni President Bongbong,
02:24hindi pwedeng ang sagot, Track 2 yun.
02:27Ang tanong, was that official or not?
02:31Diba?
02:31So sumagot na si Commodore Tariela, I will follow the president.
02:34The president has exercised patience and decorum despite standing up for the territory of our country.
02:43It's very important that we make it clear here.
02:47So if my staff, who is a member of the Senate, goes to a Track 2,
02:51tapos may karikature siya ng kahit sino sa mga senador dito,
02:56papagalitan ko siya at sasabihin ko subject ka ng ethics committee.
02:59Lalo kung nakayuniform siya at nakalagay, Senate of the Philippines or Office of Senator Alan.
03:05I cannot answer you na this is democracy, Mr. President.
03:09Kasi may rules tayo eh.
03:11And they're representing the Senate.
03:13Now, if on their off time, they attend the rally for pro or anti-divorce, for example,
03:20siguro pwede natin sabihin yan ay hindi official ng Senate.
03:25Pwede.
03:27Pero pag nagsalita siya sa stand,
03:30tapos meron siyang karikature nung lahat ng senador na anti o pro-divorce,
03:34tapos naka-office of Alan Peter Cayetano,
03:38subject siya sa ethics committee natin, Mr. President.
03:41Hindi mo pwedeng sabihin Track 2 yun.
03:42So, we can...
03:44Apart from that, Mr. President, if I may add,
03:46after that statement was released,
03:48Malacanian issued a statement,
03:50and Malacanian did not reject,
03:54did not castigate,
03:56did not rebuke Commodore Tariela.
04:03So, I will take it as that, Mr. President.
04:05Nagsalita ng Malacanian about the issue,
04:09and there was no condemnation or rebuke by Malacanian
04:15of the statement of Commodore Tariela.
04:17So, I will take it as that, Mr. President.
04:19It is not...
04:20It is official,
04:22and Malacanian tacitly,
04:25impliedly,
04:27did not reject it,
04:30Mr. President.
04:31So, we take it as official.
04:33Mr. President, I...
04:34And if the good senator disagrees with it,
04:36as China disagrees with it,
04:38then that's his...
04:39He's free to do so, Mr. President.
04:41But Malacanian has spoken.
04:43And the...
04:43And the Commodore Tariela...
04:45Malacanian has...
04:49The President has supervision and control over,
04:52you know, members of the Coast Guard,
04:55including Commodore Tariela.
04:56If he found it objectionable,
04:58then maybe the course of action is for Malacanian,
05:02the office of the President,
05:03to file the necessary administrative cases.
05:05Eh, wala naman, eh.
05:07Ang nagre-reklamo, yung China.
05:08Mr. President...
05:10Sir President...
05:11Wala-reklamo ang office of the President
05:13o ang Coast Guard, Mr. President.
05:14Ang China ang nagre-reklamo.
05:16Mr. President, may I respond?
05:19Good.
05:19Yeah.
05:19Mr. President,
05:20the Filipino people ayaw ng bastos.
05:22Pwede tayo mag-disagree,
05:26pero follow the proper order and decorum.
05:30And being a former Secretary of Foreign Affairs,
05:34ang trabaho ng DFA,
05:36hindi nga zero-sum game.
05:39Magkakampi tayo.
05:40Walang question pagdating sa territory sovereignty.
05:44Nagkakaiba tayo ng approach,
05:45pero sana magkaisa tayo
05:47na pag mali ang ginawa ng isang empleyado,
05:50ay mali.
05:52Kasi nga, maraming nanunod sa atin ngayon.
05:54So kung bukas, maraming lalabas na meme,
05:56democracy yun.
05:58Pero kung staff mismo natin
05:59ang mag-meme sa atin
06:00at dito sa session hall,
06:02tapos sasabihin natin,
06:04pwedeng gawin ng general,
06:05pwedeng gawin ng staff,
06:06mabigat po yun.
06:07Look at the official statement of DFA.
06:10At the same time,
06:12while the Philippine values debate
06:13on our difference in national position,
06:15the department recognizes the need
06:18for sober, professional,
06:20and respectful exchanges
06:22in the public sphere.
06:24Such is not contradictory
06:26to national interest.
06:29Siyempre po, Mr. President,
06:30hindi pwedeng pangunahan ng DFA
06:31ang presidente.
06:32Alter ego lang yun.
06:33Dinatanggal yun.
06:35Pero hindi exactly, Mr. President,
06:37nanginginig ngayon.
06:39Nag-cringe siya ang mga taga-DFA
06:40kung sasabihin natin
06:42track 2 yan o track 1.5
06:44at nag-cringe sila
06:45pag sinabing ang general
06:46ay pwede magkarikature
06:48ng leader or flag
06:49ng ibang bansa.
06:51Because we are part
06:52of the United Nations.
06:53We are part
06:54of the civilized society.
06:56Hindi tayo fraternity
06:58na rumble
06:59na kahit anong gawin
07:00ng ating kasama
07:01pag mali, mali.
07:03Sa resolution na ito
07:03nakalagay dyan,
07:06performance of their official duties.
07:08Bakit napakahirap natin
07:09sagutin kung official to o hindi?
07:12Mr. President, may I finish?
07:15I allow the gentleman
07:16to finish.
07:18You can answer after me.
07:19That is the decorum here.
07:21Do you want to see a meme?
07:23O, diba?
07:24So, yun nga ang ano.
07:25Wala tayong bastusan.
07:28We follow the decorum.
07:29We follow the proper order.
07:32But ang sagot parate,
07:34China ang umaangal dyan.
07:37Wala po tayong angal
07:38sa ginagawa ni Commodore Tariela
07:40pagdating sa ating
07:41national territory.
07:43Wala tayong angal po
07:45sa ginagawa niyang
07:45information campaign.
07:48Wala po tayong angal
07:49sa pagbibuild ng
07:51Coast Guard
07:53sa pag-aangal
07:54sa mga nangyayari
07:57tungkol sa
07:58skirmishes
08:00with the Chinese
08:00Coast Guard.
08:03Mr. President,
08:05sa Philippine News Agency,
08:07January 29,
08:08when asked about
08:09the President's stance
08:10on the
08:11West Philippine Sea issue,
08:14Yusec-Claire Castro
08:15said,
08:15BBM wants the government
08:16to remain firm
08:18but in a diplomatic
08:20manner.
08:22Hindi po diplomatic.
08:25Mr. President,
08:26Senator Soto
08:27knows this.
08:28I've been at his side
08:29many, many times,
08:30but I've been in his
08:31face on the opposite
08:33side.
08:34When I was
08:35minority leader,
08:36siya majority leader.
08:38This is the first time
08:39I had the pleasure
08:39na siya ang
08:40Senate President ko
08:41because I was not
08:42in the Senate nun.
08:43But never ako
08:45binastos ng staff niyo,
08:46Senator.
08:48Even dito sa mga
08:49rumors, etc.,
08:50pag lumapit ako sa
08:51opisina niyo,
08:52very diplomatic
08:53ang inyong opisina
08:54and I hope
08:55may staff din.
08:56Sinabi ko rin sa
08:56staff ko yun,
08:57kahit anong away
08:58namin ng mga senador,
09:00hindi kayo
09:00pwedeng makialam.
09:01Nung nagsuguran kami
09:03ni majority leader,
09:05Sergeant at Arms
09:06at kapwa senador
09:07lang dito,
09:07walang sumugod na
09:08staff ni
09:09Senator Mix,
09:10walang sumugod na
09:11staff ko.
09:12Because may tamang
09:13order,
09:14Mr. President.
09:15So ang problema,
09:16maraming nanunod sa atin,
09:17hindi natin,
09:18bakit ba napakahirap
09:19sabihin na
09:19Commodore Tariela,
09:2199.9%
09:22ng ginagawa mo,
09:23tama.
09:24Pero medyo
09:25sumobre,
09:27medyo naging
09:28over-eager ka.
09:30Eh, hindi lang
09:30si President Xi yun,
09:32eh, simbolo
09:32ng China yun.
09:35Di ba?
09:35So yes,
09:36we're mad about
09:37their propaganda,
09:38we're mad about
09:38their threats,
09:39we're mad about
09:40what's happening,
09:41et cetera.
09:41But you don't want
09:44it to be an all-out
09:45debate about
09:46everything under the sun.
09:48You want talks
09:49on tourism.
09:50You want talks
09:51on OFWs.
09:52There's also
09:52hundreds of thousands
09:53of Filipinos
09:54in Hong Kong,
09:56in Macau,
09:57and kahit
09:58undocumented,
09:59marami din
09:59sa Shanghai,
10:00meron din
10:00sa Beijing.
10:03Di ba?
10:04So,
10:04we want
10:05that level
10:06of civility.
10:08Yun lang
10:08naman
10:08ang tinatanong,
10:10eh,
10:10can the Senate
10:11not condemn
10:12those who are
10:13to be condemned
10:14because mali
10:15kung paano
10:16kausapin,
10:18ituring,
10:18ipaglaban
10:19ng stand
10:20sa mga senador
10:20natin?
10:21Pero yung isa
10:22nating empleyado
10:22o kapwa-empleyado
10:24na Commodore
10:25sa Coast Guard,
10:26hindi ba natin
10:26pwedeng sabihin,
10:27Sir,
10:28we respect you
10:29pero huwag kang pupunta
10:30sa university
10:31na ka-uniforme
10:32tapos ganyan
10:32ang presentation mo.
10:35Ang Pilipino yun,
10:36medyo masama
10:37ang andating.
10:39Yun lang naman
10:40issue doon,
10:40Mr. President.
10:41Just to place it
10:42on record,
10:43para klaro din
10:43sa mga nakikinig,
10:46walang banggit
10:47ni Commodore Tariela
10:49sa resolution.
10:50Wala.
10:52So,
10:52hindi ito tungkol
10:54kay Tariela.
10:56Kasi kung
10:57kay Tariela lang po tayo,
10:59medyo nalilihis
11:01dun sa
11:02mas malawig
11:03na usapin
11:04ng resolusyon.
11:05So,
11:05walang pangalan
11:06ni Tariela,
11:07Commodore Tariela
11:08rito.
11:08Number one,
11:10having said that,
11:11tinanong
11:12ang ating
11:14Anang Malacanyan
11:15at tungkol nga
11:18sa mga
11:19bitiw na salita
11:20ng mga opisyal.
11:22And I quote,
11:25when pressed
11:28whether the
11:28president stands
11:29by the statement
11:30of Philippine officials
11:31on the West
11:32Philippine issue,
11:33Castro said,
11:34yes.
11:36So,
11:36whatever our
11:37agencies are doing
11:38to fight
11:38for the interests
11:39of our country,
11:40that's what the
11:41president wants.
11:42And that's also
11:43what he has ordered.
11:44So,
11:45if the president
11:46found
11:48Mr.
11:48Commodore Tariela's
11:49statement
11:50as
11:51unpalatable
11:52or unacceptable,
11:54then he should
11:54have said so.
11:55He did not.
11:57So,
11:57having said that,
11:58again,
11:58I will reiterate,
11:59if he was wrong,
12:02then Malacanyan
12:03should have
12:03castigated him
12:05and reprimanded him.
12:06Malacanyan,
12:07in fact,
12:07supported
12:08the statements
12:09of the officials,
12:10official statements.
12:11So,
12:11I think
12:12we should
12:14support Malacanyan's
12:15position
12:15and we should
12:18support this
12:18resolution,
12:19Mr. President.
12:20Mr. President,
12:21to reply to that,
12:22number one,
12:23Malacanyan said
12:24na yung statements
12:26at stand
12:27ng bawat opisyal,
12:28lahat ayong
12:29question dun.
12:30Nagkakaisa tayo
12:31lahat.
12:32Lahat tayo
12:33nagsasabing
12:34atin to.
12:35Whether we mean
12:36atin to
12:36in terms of
12:37territory
12:38or whether we mean
12:39sovereign rights.
12:41Kung ang sinasabi
12:42ng gentleman
12:42from Pampanga
12:43eh wala ang pangalan
12:44ni Commodore Trajela
12:45dito so huwag
12:46natin pag-usapan,
12:47ang problema po,
12:49mali ang argument niya
12:50kasi walang pangalan
12:51ni isa dito
12:52sa resolution na to.
12:53Di wala tayong
12:54pinag-uusapan
12:54kahit anong
12:55official ng
12:55Pilipinas dito.
12:57You know,
12:58sabi niya,
12:59Mr. President,
13:01I'm not set finish,
13:02please don't interrupt.
13:04Konting dekorum
13:04lang tayo po.
13:05Di ba?
13:06Kasi maraming
13:06gagaya sa atin po dito.
13:08Ang nakalagay po dito,
13:09members of the
13:10Senate and the House
13:11and other
13:12government officials.
13:14Wala pong pangalan
13:15ang senador,
13:16wala pong pangalan
13:17ang congressman,
13:19pero meron
13:20other government
13:20officials.
13:21Hindi ba
13:21other
13:22si
13:23Commodore Trajela?
13:25That's why I was asking
13:27when we talk about
13:29official duties and
13:30functions,
13:31linawin natin.
13:32So kung attending
13:33forums is part of
13:34his duty,
13:35I will support that.
13:37If his presentation
13:38is the
13:39Treaty
13:41of Paris,
13:45the amendments
13:46with the United States,
13:48the
13:49UNCLOS 1,
13:502,
13:50and 3,
13:51kung papakita niya
13:52yung
13:52arbitral
13:53award,
13:54kung papakita niya
13:55kung paano
13:56kinakawawa
13:57ang ating
13:58mga
13:58Coast Guard,
14:00then
14:00let's do it.
14:03If we have to
14:04inform our
14:05people more
14:06and be on
14:06TV programs,
14:07etc.
14:08Ang question,
14:10a picture
14:12paints
14:12a thousand words.
14:14So para mong
14:15sinabing
14:15wala ka namang
14:17tinawag na
14:18magnanakaw.
14:20Pero yung
14:21karikature mo,
14:23nagnanakaw siya.
14:24Sinabi mo,
14:25wala kang tinawag
14:25na corrupt.
14:27Pero yung
14:27picture na nilagay mo
14:28doon,
14:29corrupt.
14:30So,
14:31reciprocity
14:32is basic
14:33sa DFA,
14:35sa Ministry
14:36of
14:36Foreign Affairs.
14:39Whatever
14:39we say here,
14:41the United
14:42States is
14:42watching,
14:43France is
14:44watching,
14:45Israel is
14:46watching,
14:47Palestine
14:48is watching.
14:49So I don't
14:50want these
14:51countries to
14:52do a
14:53caricature
14:53of
14:54President
14:55BBM
14:56and then
14:57sabihin nila,
14:59e sabi naman
14:59nyo sa Senado,
15:00okay to.
15:01Diba?
15:02That's why I'm
15:03clarifying,
15:04official ba to?
15:05Hindi ba?
15:05Napakahirap
15:06sabihin ng
15:07hindi
15:08official yan.
15:09Kasi ang
15:10kasunod lang
15:10simple nun,
15:11huwag siya
15:11mag-uniforme
15:12at huwag
15:13siyang
15:13magpapakilala
15:14during that
15:15event
15:15na spokesman
15:16siya.
15:17Diba?
15:18Ngayon,
15:19Mr.
15:19President,
15:20will his
15:21presentation
15:22be diluted
15:23in any
15:24manner
15:24if he
15:25didn't
15:25show that
15:26caricature?
15:27Hindi naman,
15:27e.
15:29Hindi naman.
15:31So,
15:31the gentleman
15:31keeps asking me
15:32about the
15:33other members
15:33of the
15:33House of
15:34Senate.
15:34E kung
15:35wala akong
15:36nakikita
15:36problema dun
15:37or hindi ko
15:38pa napag-aaralan
15:38yun,
15:38that's beside
15:39the point.
15:40Ang pinag-uusapan
15:41natin,
15:42what is all
15:42over the
15:43news
15:43na minomonitor
15:45ng lahat
15:46ng ASEAN
15:46countries,
15:47minomonitor
15:48ng trade
15:49attachés
15:50nila,
15:51minomonitor
15:51ng labor
15:52attachés
15:53ng iba't
15:54ibang bansa
15:55para makita
15:56ang Pilipinas
15:57ba,
15:57ano ba
15:58values
15:58neto?
15:59Marunong ba
16:00to sa
16:00diplomatic,
16:02hindi lang
16:03niceties,
16:04rules to
16:04and everything,
16:05Mr.
16:05President.
16:06That's why,
16:07kaya humaba yung
16:07discussion,
16:08simple lang
16:08ang tanong ko,
16:09official duty
16:11ba ng isang
16:11general,
16:12maglabas
16:13ng karikature
16:13ng
16:15Pangulo
16:16ng ibang
16:16bansa.
16:17Kasi obvious
16:18ang sagot
16:18doon,
16:19hindi.
16:19Hindi sagot
16:20doon
16:20kung ano
16:22sabihin
16:22ng Malacanang.
16:23Maraming
16:23sinabi
16:24si Duterte
16:24na sinabi
16:26ng Congress
16:26before,
16:27mali yun.
16:29Hindi naman
16:29natin
16:30sinagot
16:30dito sa
16:30Senate
16:31na basta
16:32sinabi
16:32ni Duterte
16:33tama,
16:34basta
16:34sinabi
16:34ni Arroyo
16:35tama,
16:36basta
16:36sabihin
16:36ni Pinoy
16:37tama.
16:38Hindi,
16:38kaya nga
16:39may Senado
16:39may check
16:41and
16:42may balance.
16:43So,
16:44pag yung isa
16:44sumobra,
16:45pag sumobra
16:46Supreme Court,
16:47may check.
16:47Pag sumobra
16:48Congress,
16:49may check.
16:50Pag sumobra
16:51ang executive,
16:52may check.
16:53Second,
16:54you have to look
16:55at the character
16:56demeanor
16:56of not
16:58the office
16:59of the
17:00President,
17:00but the
17:00President
17:00himself.
17:02The
17:02President
17:02himself,
17:03hindi niya
17:03style to
17:04call out
17:05employees
17:05in public.
17:07Hindi niya
17:08style yun
17:08na ikaw
17:08tama,
17:09ikaw
17:09mali,
17:09ikaw mali,
17:10mali,
17:10di ba?
17:11But everyone
17:12knows
17:12na mali
17:14na tirahin
17:15mo yung
17:15pangulo
17:16ng isang
17:17bansa
17:17with
17:17caricatures
17:18na naka
17:19uniforme,
17:19general ka pa.
17:21So,
17:21can you imagine
17:22Mr.
17:22President?
17:24I'll give you
17:25an example.
17:26Si President
17:27Trump
17:28at yung
17:28North Korean
17:29President.
17:30Kasagutan
17:31sila.
17:32They
17:33went to
17:34name
17:35calling.
17:36So,
17:36tinawag
17:37ni President
17:37Trump
17:38na
17:38rocket
17:38man.
17:40Sumagot
17:40din si
17:41Kim
17:43Jun
17:44Un.
17:46Walang
17:47problema yun,
17:47Mr.
17:48President,
17:48kasi
17:48official yun.
17:50Kasi
17:50pag ginawa
17:50ng
17:50Pangulo
17:51yung
17:51international
17:51affairs,
17:52susunod
17:52na yun.
17:53So,
17:53kung may
17:54mga
17:54official
17:54ng
17:55gobyerno
17:56na
17:56sinunod
17:56si
17:56Trump
17:57at
17:57tinawag
17:57siyang
17:58rocket
17:59mandate,
17:59which I
18:00think the
18:00White
18:01House
18:01spokesperson,
18:03I'm not sure
18:04the
18:04Secretary of
18:05State if
18:05they
18:05followed,
18:07but then
18:07nung
18:07nagkaroon
18:08ng
18:08meeting
18:08sa
18:08Singapore
18:09at
18:09nagkamayan
18:10sila
18:11at
18:11umibay
18:11yung
18:11asta
18:12ni
18:13President
18:13Trump,
18:14he was
18:14still
18:14firm,
18:15he still
18:15drew
18:16the
18:16red
18:16line,
18:16but
18:17hindi
18:18na
18:18niya
18:18inaalaska
18:19ang
18:19Pangulo
18:20ng
18:20North
18:20Korea,
18:21you
18:21expect
18:22na
18:22everyone
18:23beneath
18:23him
18:24toes
18:25the
18:25line.
18:26Eh,
18:27sa atin
18:27nakita
18:27niyo
18:27naman
18:28po,
18:29kumakamay,
18:30lumapit
18:31ang
18:31Pangulo.
18:32Was
18:32that
18:32APEC
18:33or
18:33ASEAN,
18:34di ba?
18:35Just so
18:36that
18:37makommunicate,
18:38may dispute
18:39tayo,
18:39pero
18:39neighbors
18:40tayo.
18:41Di ba?
18:42Para
18:42ma-dispute,
18:42walang
18:43personalan
18:43to.
18:44For
18:44whatever
18:45purpose,
18:45I
18:45admired
18:46President
18:46Marcos
18:47for
18:47going
18:47near the
18:48Chinese
18:48president.
18:49And then,
18:49may
18:49general
18:50ka,
18:50ganito
18:51nangyayari,
18:51tapos
18:51hindi
18:52kayang
18:52sabihin
18:52ng
18:52Senado,
18:53mali.
18:53So,
18:54the gentleman
18:54from Pampanga
18:55expects
18:56the
18:56Senate
18:56to say
18:57na mali
18:58ang
18:58Chinese
18:58ambassador
18:59sa
18:59pakikisagutan
19:01kay
19:02Senator
19:02Risa
19:03sa kanya,
19:04pero
19:04wala tayong
19:05wherewithal,
19:07wala tayong
19:07pakialam,
19:10sabihin
19:10sa isang
19:10general,
19:11boss,
19:11mali ka
19:11naman
19:12kasi.
19:14So,
19:15hindi
19:15pwedeng
19:16ano,
19:16pag
19:16senador,
19:17ano tayo,
19:19meron tayong
19:19immunity,
19:21mas mataas tayo
19:21sa iba,
19:22pag tayo
19:23tinira,
19:23rest back
19:23kagad ng
19:24Senate.
19:25Pero kapag
19:25kaheneral,
19:28eh,
19:28tama naman yung
19:2999%
19:29niyang ginawa,
19:30kaya yung
19:301%,
19:31sabihin na lang
19:32natin,
19:32official din yun.
19:33simple lang po
19:34tanong ko eh,
19:35is it in the
19:36performance of
19:37his official
19:38duty?
19:41Ang bigat po niyan
19:42kung sasabihin
19:42natin yes.
19:43It will
19:45ripple not
19:45only through
19:46our military,
19:48but it
19:49will ripple
19:50in time.
19:52And it
19:53will be,
19:54it's being
19:55watched by
19:55students who
19:57will be our
19:57future
19:58diplomats,
20:00Mr.
20:00President.
20:01So, I cannot
20:02stand here
20:02and accept
20:04na yung
20:05mali
20:05pwedeng maging
20:06tama.
20:07Again,
20:08Mr.
20:08President,
20:08if it is
20:09rhetoric,
20:10president to
20:10president,
20:11we're
20:12uncomfortable
20:12with it,
20:13but it's
20:14part of
20:14the negotiating eh.
20:15So,
20:16President Trump
20:17does that a lot.
20:18But once
20:18na tumigil siya,
20:19once nakamayan na,
20:21tigil na rin
20:22lahat nung
20:22nasa ilalim niya.
20:24Hindi naman
20:24pwede ang
20:25susabihin natin
20:26dito,
20:26ang mali,
20:27ang presidente.
20:28Kasi siya,
20:28hindi niya
20:29binabastos
20:29ang Chinese
20:30president.
20:31So,
20:31ang general
20:32ang tama,
20:32ang mali,
20:33presidente.
20:34You cannot
20:35reconcile that.
20:36It defies
20:37logic,
20:37Mr.
20:38President.
20:39What the
20:39president does,
20:41the executive
20:41follows.
20:42Tayo sa
20:42legislative,
20:44pwede tayong
20:44mag-comment,
20:46pwede tayong
20:46mag-resolution
20:47katilin,
20:48para kung ano
20:48ang tama
20:49at mali.
20:49That's why,
20:51Mr.
20:51President,
20:51I want to know,
20:52sino-sino
20:53official ba ito?
20:54Sa Senate,
20:55sa House,
20:56sa interest nila.
20:58Kasi yung
20:58DND,
20:59medyo
20:59klaro yun.
21:00Nakita ko yung
21:00mga statements,
21:01etc.
21:01And yung DND,
21:03mismong si
21:04SND
21:05ang nagsasalita.
21:07So,
21:07in behalf of the
21:08president yun.
21:09So,
21:09kung gustong
21:09i-correct
21:10ng presidente yun,
21:11i-correct niya.
21:12Hindi naman
21:13spokesman ng
21:14presidente
21:14ang nakikipag-debate
21:15dun.
21:16Hindi naman
21:17spokesman ng
21:17DND.
21:18At sagutin man nila,
21:20sinabi na ni DND,
21:21yun din ang stand niya.
21:23Eto po hindi.
21:24At yung DND po,
21:26despite my
21:27agreement or
21:30disagreement
21:31with the
21:32Secretary of
21:32National Defense,
21:34I haven't seen
21:34anyone in the
21:35DND
21:36come out with
21:37caricatures of
21:38generals of the
21:39opposing side
21:40or of the
21:41president of the
21:42other side.
21:43Our generals
21:43are officers
21:44and gentlemen.
21:46Is it too much
21:47to ask that
21:48yung pagiging
21:49officer and
21:49gentleman sa
21:50AFP,
21:51PNP,
21:52BJMP,
21:54ay ganun din
21:55sa Coast Guard
21:55natin?
21:56Is it too much
21:57to ask,
21:57gentleman from
21:58Pampanga?
21:59Masyado bang
22:00malaking ask
22:01yun na,
22:02Boss,
22:03paglabang mo
22:03Pilipinas,
22:04pero
22:04wag tayong
22:06bastusan?
22:08Well,
22:09because you
22:09find,
22:10because the
22:11gentleman
22:11from Taguig
22:12finds it
22:13unacceptable,
22:15Mr. President,
22:16and therefore,
22:16that is his
22:16position.
22:18We do not
22:19find that
22:19unacceptable,
22:20Mr. President,
22:21under the
22:21circumstances,
22:22particularly
22:23because China
22:24for the
22:24longest time
22:25has been
22:26aggressively,
22:28illegally
22:29encroaching
22:31on what
22:31is ours.
22:32So if
22:32these statements
22:33are taken
22:34in isolation,
22:35perhaps I
22:36might be able
22:37to understand
22:37where the
22:38good gentleman
22:39is coming
22:39from,
22:40but it's
22:40not taken
22:40in isolation.
22:41It's not
22:42just
22:42Commodore Tariela's
22:43statement.
22:44It is
22:44and the
22:47remarks of the
22:48Chinese embassy
22:49towards
22:49and reaction
22:50to his
22:51statement.
22:51It's also
22:52what the
22:52Chinese embassy
22:53has
22:55attacked
22:56the senators,
22:59congressmen,
23:00Mr. President.
23:01And,
23:01if I may add,
23:02again,
23:03this is not
23:04just an issue
23:04of Commodore Tariela.
23:06Let's not
23:07minimize the
23:07issue.
23:08we beg
23:10to disagree
23:11and with
23:11all due
23:12respect,
23:13putting the
23:13issue
23:14simply as
23:15Commodore Tariela
23:16and his
23:17actions is
23:18minimizing the
23:19issue.
23:20And,
23:20somehow,
23:21who benefits
23:22from minimizing
23:22this issue?
23:24China,
23:25Mr. President.
23:26The good
23:26senator may not,
23:28that may not
23:28be his
23:29intention,
23:29but,
23:30Mr. President,
23:31from this
23:31point,
23:32from this
23:32perspective,
23:33from this
23:33representation's
23:35perspective,
23:35minimizing the
23:36issue,
23:37disregarding,
23:38or taking
23:39it in
23:39isolation,
23:40and isolating
23:42Tariela's
23:43actions from
23:44the insults
23:46and the
23:47unparliamentary
23:48language of
23:49the embassy,
23:53threatening
23:53our men in
23:55uniform,
23:56Mr. President.
23:58It's like,
23:58suddenly,
23:59we're not
23:59talking about
24:00all the
24:01insults,
24:02and
24:03concerns of
24:04China,
24:05because we're
24:05here,
24:06we're
24:06here,
24:07in
24:08the
24:08United States.
24:09I hope
24:12the good
24:13senator
24:14gets a
24:16broader,
24:17or looks at
24:18it in a
24:18broader
24:18perspective,
24:19Mr.
24:20President.
24:20Mr.
24:21President,
24:22sino
24:22ho nagmi-minimize?
24:24Siya po
24:25ang nagmamadali,
24:26ayaw niya
24:26mag-hearing.
24:27Kung
24:28magkakaroon
24:28ho ng
24:29hearing,
24:30lahat
24:30ho ng
24:30issues,
24:31yung
24:31sinabi
24:32ng D&D,
24:33yung
24:33ginagawa po
24:34sa
24:35Ayungin
24:36or sa
24:38BP Sierra Madre,
24:40yung
24:40pong
24:41ginawa po
24:42sa
24:42Scalvo Rochelle,
24:44Aquino
24:44Administration,
24:45Duterte
24:46Administration,
24:47Marcos
24:47Administration,
24:49yung pong
24:49hinanakit
24:50ng ating mga
24:51Coast Guard
24:52sa nangyayari
24:53sa kalina
24:53araw-araw,
24:55sa mga
24:55nasa
24:56pag-asa
24:56island po,
24:58sa kakulangan
24:59po
24:59ng pondo,
25:00lahat po yun
25:03madidiscuss
25:04natin.
25:05Paulit-ulit po
25:06ang gentleman
25:06from Pampanga
25:07na parang
25:08ako may
25:08kasalanan
25:09na pinag-uusapan
25:11po si
25:11Senator
25:12Tariella,
25:13et tinamad po
25:14sila
25:14na ilagay
25:15ang mga
25:15pangalan
25:16ng mga
25:17opisyal
25:18na sinasabi
25:20nila sa
25:20resolusyon.
25:22Kaya
25:22malinaw
25:22naman
25:23tanong ko,
25:23sino-sino
25:25itong mga
25:25opisyal,
25:26ang alam
25:26ko lang
25:27si
25:27Comor
25:28Tariella.
25:29Tapos
25:29sasabihan
25:30niya
25:30ako
25:30ay minimizing.
25:31Tapos
25:32babasahan
25:32niya
25:32ako
25:32ng
25:33paano
25:33mga
25:33taga
25:34D&D,
25:34paano
25:35mga
25:35para bang
25:36hindi ko
25:36sila
25:36kinakampihan.
25:37Bulok na
25:38yung style
25:39na yan.
25:39Yan yung style
25:40na pro-China,
25:42anti-China,
25:43pro-Philippines,
25:44anti-Philippines.
25:46Paulit-ulit
25:47na tayo
25:47dito,
25:48magkakampi tayo
25:49pagdating sa
25:49territory
25:50ng ating
25:50bansa.
25:52Magkakampi tayo
25:52pagdating sa
25:53sovereign rights
25:54ng ating
25:54bansa.
25:56May I ask
25:56this
25:56question?
25:58When
25:59the military
26:01decided to
26:02pave the
26:02way,
26:03to build a
26:05runway sa
26:06Pag-asa
26:06island,
26:07was there
26:07any objection
26:08by any
26:09department
26:10in our
26:11country
26:11at that
26:12time?
26:14Well,
26:15Mr.
26:15President,
26:16with all due
26:19respect,
26:20Mr.
26:20President,
26:20I think
26:21we have
26:22exhausted
26:22this debate.
26:23Mr.
26:23President,
26:24do we have
26:24closure here?
26:25No,
26:26Mr.
26:26President,
26:26but I will,
26:27I no longer
26:28would like to
26:29respond to further
26:32questions.
26:32No,
26:33no,
26:33no,
26:33no,
26:33no,
26:33I have the floor.
26:38I have the floor.
26:40Mr.
26:40President,
26:40point of order,
26:41I have the floor
26:42and I would like to
26:43manifest that we
26:44believe this has
26:45been exhausted
26:46for two weeks,
26:48Mr.
26:48President,
26:49we have debated
26:49this and I
26:51think we have
26:52ventilated the
26:53issue enough and
26:54it is time for a
26:55vote,
26:56Mr.
26:56President.
26:56I will no longer
26:57yield to questions,
27:00Mr.
27:00President.
27:00Mr.
27:01President,
27:01before that,
27:04can I just
27:04reiterate my
27:05question?
27:06Kung hindi
27:06niya sasagutin,
27:07ima-manifest ko
27:08lang yung sagot
27:09sa sarili kong
27:09tanong.
27:10Ang tanong ko
27:11po sa kanya,
27:13nung sinabi
27:14ng military,
27:15ganyan na
27:16nangyayari sa
27:16West Philippine Sea,
27:18lagyan na natin
27:19ng runway,
27:19ayusin na natin
27:20ang pag-asa.
27:21Meron ba
27:22pong mga
27:22opisyalis ng
27:23kahit anong
27:24departamento sa
27:25ating bansa
27:25na registered
27:28a negative vote
27:29and advised
27:29the military
27:30not to do it?
27:31If the good
27:34senator doesn't
27:35want to answer
27:35that,
27:35I will answer
27:36it.
27:37Mga taga-DFA,
27:38ang sabi ng
27:39mga taga-DFA,
27:40during the time,
27:41this was the time
27:41of President Aquino,
27:43it will weaken
27:44our case.
27:46Because precisely,
27:47the rocks,
27:48the features
27:49that are being
27:50reclaimed,
27:51etc.,
27:51malakas ang
27:52kaso natin.
27:53Nasunod po yung
27:54military at
27:55tingin ko tama
27:55naman.
27:57But none of us
27:58told yung mga taga-DFA
27:59na pro-China
28:00kayo
28:00for having
28:01a different
28:02opinion.
28:03Diba?
28:04None of us,
28:05why?
28:06Kasi iba
28:07trabaho ng
28:07DFA sa
28:08DND.
28:09Iba trabaho
28:10ng DND
28:10sa Coast Guard.
28:12So,
28:13Mr. President,
28:15dapat burahin na
28:15natin yung
28:16nagdi-discuss
28:16tayo
28:17ng maayos.
28:18Napikon ka
28:19sa statement
28:19ng iba,
28:20re-rest back
28:20ang senador.
28:21Buti nga,
28:22sinasagot kayo eh.
28:23Mas malaking
28:24insulto ko,
28:24hindi kayo
28:25sinagot eh.
28:26Sinagot kayo,
28:27eh di magsagutan
28:28kayo,
28:28pero gusto nyo,
28:29buong senado
28:30ang re-rest back nyo.
28:32Ako,
28:32kung may kadibate
28:33akong embassy,
28:33kami lang yun.
28:35Kung kailangan ko
28:35tulong ni Brother
28:36Robin or ni
28:37Senator Marcoleta,
28:38kakalabitin ko,
28:39tulungan.
28:40Pero hindi ako
28:40magpa-file ng
28:41resolution sa senado
28:42para sa tulungan
28:42nyo kami,
28:43bugug kami sa China.
28:44Tapos,
28:45pagka hindi ka
28:46pumirma,
28:46pro-China ka.
28:48China lang
28:48ang lumalaki dito.
28:49Okay.
28:50We'll go to the
28:51colorary question there.
28:53I was going to ask
28:54the gentleman,
28:54ano ang ilan
28:58responsibilities natin
28:59under
29:00ungklos?
29:02Will the gentleman
29:02answer that
29:03or will I answer
29:04myself?
29:08So,
29:09since the gentleman
29:10will not answer that,
29:11I will answer it
29:11myself,
29:12Mr. President.
29:13So,
29:14under our
29:14maritime entitlements,
29:16meron din
29:17responsibilities
29:18doon.
29:19For example,
29:19Mr. President,
29:21managing,
29:22managing our
29:23maritime resources.
29:24So,
29:25walang problema
29:26yung non-life.
29:27For example,
29:27natural gas.
29:28Diba?
29:29Siyempre,
29:30yung ecological
29:30balance lang dyan.
29:32Pero let's say,
29:32fish.
29:34Let's say,
29:34yung mga
29:35coral reef.
29:37Trabaho ng
29:37Coast Guard
29:38siguruduhin
29:39na
29:40walang
29:41nagdadamage
29:42nyan.
29:42So,
29:43kung ang
29:44Coast Guard
29:44natin
29:45at Coast Guard
29:45ng
29:46China
29:48ay nag-aaway
29:48parate,
29:50mahirapan silang
29:51dalawa
29:52na
29:53i-enforce
29:54ang
29:56mga
29:56restriction
29:57na
29:58nakakasira
29:59ng ating
30:00environment.
30:01That's why,
30:02in the past
30:02administration,
30:04everyone was
30:05allowed to speak
30:06except the
30:06Coast Guard
30:07because of
30:08the next
30:08responsibility,
30:10the prevention
30:10of
30:11life
30:12and
30:13what's the
30:16what's the
30:18there's a
30:18official term
30:19don,
30:20but since
30:20walang
30:22tagaano
30:22dito,
30:24prevention
30:25of
30:26loss
30:28of
30:28life
30:29and
30:30so,
30:33may official
30:33term yan,
30:34Mr. President.
30:35Ang punto
30:36nun,
30:36kapag ka may
30:37barko
30:38halimbawa
30:38na lumulubog
30:39o nabanga
30:40o tinamaan
30:41ng bagyo,
30:43you cannot
30:45say no.
30:49You have
30:49to help.
30:51Diba?
30:51Magtutulungan
30:52kayo.
30:53So,
30:53kung ang
30:53Coast Guard
30:54ng China
30:55at Coast Guard
30:56ng
30:56Pilipinas
31:00ay hindi
31:00magkasundo,
31:02kawawa
31:02yung ating
31:03fishermen.
31:04That's why,
31:05unanimous
31:05yung ating
31:06resolution
31:06about
31:07water
31:08cannon.
31:10Our
31:10diplomats
31:10have been
31:11telling China
31:11the same
31:12thing.
31:13Mag-away
31:13yung
31:13iba,
31:14pero
31:14wag yung
31:14Coast Guard
31:14natin.
31:15Kasi
31:15kung may
31:16fisherman
31:16ka rin
31:17na
31:17Chinese
31:17at
31:17may
31:18kailangan
31:18yan,
31:19tutulungan
31:19din
31:19ng
31:19Pinoyon.
31:20Wala
31:20lang
31:21nationality
31:21pagkabuhay
31:22na.
31:23Diba?
31:24So,
31:24two sides
31:25eh.
31:25On one
31:26side,
31:26we are
31:27advocating
31:28umayos
31:30naman
31:31yung
31:31Chinese
31:32Coast Guard.
31:33Pero
31:34kung
31:34papayagan
31:34natin
31:35yung
31:36spokesman
31:36ng
31:37Coast Guard
31:39naman
31:39natin
31:39ang
31:39mambastos,
31:40hindi
31:40mangyayari
31:41ito.
31:41So,
31:42anyway,
31:42Mr.
31:42President,
31:43marami pa
31:43ang gusto
31:43sabihin,
31:44but siguro
31:44dahil may
31:47lead act
31:47tayo
31:47tomorrow,
31:48maraming
31:48importante.
31:49Ang
31:49question ko
31:50lang,
31:50Mr.
31:50President,
31:51paano
31:51yung
31:51amendments?
31:53Hindi
31:53ba
31:53natin
31:53ilalagay
31:54kung
31:54anong
31:54mga
31:54statement
31:57na ito?
31:57Kasi
31:57paano
31:58natin
31:58pagbobotohan
31:59kung
32:00hindi
32:00natin
32:00alam
32:01kung
32:01ano
32:01yung
32:01mga
32:01statement
32:02na ito
32:02at
32:02sino
32:03itong
32:03mga
32:03opisyal.
32:04This
32:04resolution
32:05is so
32:05general,
32:08it can
32:08mean
32:09anything.
32:09Mr.
32:10President,
32:10I'm not
32:10yet
32:10finished.
32:11You
32:11said you
32:11don't
32:11want
32:12to
32:12speak
32:12anymore,
32:12then
32:12don't
32:13speak.
32:13It's
32:14your
32:14privilege.
32:14But
32:14if
32:15you
32:15don't
32:16like
32:16what
32:16I'm
32:16saying,
32:17Mr.
32:17President,
32:17I
32:18withdraw that
32:28statement,
32:29Mr.
32:29President.
32:29I apologize
32:30for that.
32:32Perhaps
32:32what we
32:33can do
32:33is that
32:35let us
32:35then
32:36terminate
32:36the
32:36period
32:37of
32:37interpolation
32:37and
32:38open
32:38the
32:38period
32:38of
32:39amendment
32:39so
32:39that
32:40we
32:40can
32:40incorporate
32:41the
32:41amendments
32:41proposed
32:42if
32:43the
32:43sponsor
32:44will
32:44accept
32:44or
32:45not.
32:45I
32:45agree
32:45with
32:46you,
32:46Mr.
32:46President.
32:46No
32:47objection.
32:48So
32:48moved,
32:48Mr.
32:48President,
32:49no
32:49objection.
32:59I
33:02can't
33:03I
33:04can't
33:05I
33:06can't
33:06let's
33:07imagine,
33:07can I
33:08have not
33:08any
33:10opinion?
33:10I
33:10can't
33:10do
33:11,
33:12but
33:13I
33:13can't
33:15see you,
33:16I can't
33:16see you,
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