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Dimension 20'S Adventuring Party - Season 22 Episode 5 - Tba
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00:00Hello, one and all!
00:02What about another episode of Adventuring Party?
00:03I'm your humble GM, Brandon Lee Mulligan.
00:05With me as always are our Dusty Do-Gooders.
00:06Say hi, Dusty Do-Gooders.
00:10Is that a bunch of teeth?
00:12Sorry.
00:13That's the most amount of teeth you've coughed so many times.
00:15What would you do if you were like,
00:17just out and about on the town,
00:19and someone did a cough like that,
00:20and all their teeth got out?
00:22I would laugh.
00:23That's LA, baby.
00:24What the?
00:25Only in LA.
00:26I'd say another day on the tube.
00:30It's a person walking on the highway that you're seeing.
00:31No, no, the bus.
00:32The tube bus.
00:33The tube bus.
00:34We were thinking about the tube freeway.
00:35I was also thinking about the tube.
00:36You're walking on the shoulder of the tube.
00:38Someone passing you the other direction.
00:40Only on the tube.
00:42That crazy person, another day on the tube,
00:44and I keep walking on the freeway, barefoot.
00:47Just like.
00:48The tube would be the worst.
00:49Bloodstained.
00:50The tube's also like a horrifically dangerous.
00:51It was made for horses.
00:52Highway.
00:53It was made for horses, and it was not updated.
00:55That was for horses.
00:57You're thinking of the 110.
00:57No, the 110 was made for buggies.
00:59A little like.
01:00The two is not made.
01:01There's no way the two is made for.
01:02The 1-10 is the nation's first at the end of the day.
01:04What's the one that you get to a stop sign,
01:06and it's like to a heart?
01:07That's the 110 north.
01:08That's the 110 beyond downtown LA.
01:09I watched one TikTok, and I probably got it wrong.
01:13What's up?
01:13This is Ellie in a minute.
01:14You're not going to pay attention to this, Beardsley,
01:16so go ahead and scroll on.
01:18I watched the whole thing.
01:20The two and the 110 are very different.
01:23Oh, you're Ellie in a minute?
01:25You're Ellie in a minute.
01:28Wait, they show his face on that.
01:30Yeah, I have a different face for the show.
01:32Yeah, I figured it out.
01:36It's like those vloggers, or you know those videos
01:38where it's like they do an animation?
01:40Do you know what I'm talking about?
01:41Yes, that's how I do it.
01:43You're explaining how I do it, continue.
01:45Continue.
01:46So the 110 was made for horses, and I am barefoot bloodstained.
01:51It was made for Jalad Tesla?
01:53It was made for buggies.
01:54Watching multiple people cough all their cheese out.
01:57Can I just briefly correct the history of what's being bastardized in my hometown?
02:00We must.
02:01It was built for Model Ts, and they put swerves in it
02:04because the cars were so slow, it made the drive more interesting.
02:07What?
02:08Don't say yes, you said horses.
02:10It was for horses, though.
02:11Can I ask a question?
02:12Hmm.
02:13Brendan, when you were pitching this to Dropout, was this what you were hoping for?
02:18To be perfectly honest, an episode where people fart so fast that they get super speed
02:23and we weep about the nature of death and grief is the thesis writ large.
02:29Hey Siri, am I barefoot bloodstained walking down the 110 going just another day on the two?
02:35Yeah.
02:36It was made for horses.
02:38It's just not horses.
02:39It was made for horses.
02:40I love that.
02:41This show that we're doing right now talking about L.A. in a minute.
02:44Oh, L.A. in a minute.
02:45Was this what you were hoping for this show?
02:46My very popular TikTok account?
02:47Honestly, I love to take my foot off the gas in an adventuring party.
02:51You do, you do.
02:52Yeah, no, it's good.
02:53I like it.
02:54I thought this was a beautiful episode.
02:55Crazy episode.
02:56Yes!
02:57Nice!
02:58We got Huggy out of the red.
03:00No one else even got close.
03:02Wow, that's amazing.
03:03Yeah, true.
03:04That's huge.
03:05From a 10 to a 6.
03:06That's beautiful.
03:07Wait, where are you at, Kimia?
03:08I'm at a 2.
03:09I'm okay.
03:10He's hanging on.
03:11Everyone's at a 2.
03:12We're looking good.
03:13I thought it was, I feel like, I was saying this off camera, and I just want to say it,
03:19but sometimes, when you're playing with so many people, it's hard to kind of maintain
03:25the integrity of the story, and sometimes find myself in a way of like, yeah, let's just
03:32keep going, and direction more so, very generally, and I thought it was really cool how you were
03:39able to kind of plant your feet in your character's arc in a way that was the direction and brought
03:53this into such a beautiful territory that felt very profound and real and really, really
04:03appreciated it.
04:04Yeah.
04:05Absolutely.
04:06It's like a character whose whole thing was not advocating for themself, and then being
04:10like, this is the moment I do that, and it alters the whole, we're not like, running
04:15out the door to try to beat the rain really fast.
04:17Yeah.
04:18Like, we're like, taking a moment here.
04:19Because I also was like, our whole thing is we go to these places and we help them process,
04:23and once we, there's some level of healing, then we leave, and I was like, we're literally
04:28about to be like, y'all suck, we gotta go save those books.
04:32Yeah.
04:33And I was like, okay, I guess that's one story, but it was really cool to, it's so satisfying
04:36to not have to do that.
04:37Yeah.
04:38I mean, like, you guys, I think too, gave me such excellent, because I, I also just
04:43like, going to this was like, oh, I don't really know how, because it is like something
04:47needs to happen to change this character's mind, and to like, be able to say yes to these
04:54fun things, and I really didn't know what that was gonna be exactly, and it was really
04:59fun just sort of like, jumping out of the plane and going like, yeah.
05:02What was it?
05:03Huh?
05:04What specifically was it?
05:05What did it feel like for you?
05:06Was that moment?
05:07I legitimately do think it was Connor, having that-
05:09It was a great scene.
05:10That was so fun.
05:11Having that roll up top, and getting to like, talk about that, and then being like, oh,
05:15it's like, okay, like, I'm here to listen, and like, having that moment, and then like,
05:19that coming back later, because then it built enough trust with Connor that Connor then
05:22saying something a little bit later, was enough of an opening to like, I think, at least
05:28start opening those floodgates a little bit.
05:30Totally.
05:31Whoa.
05:32So sick.
05:33There's a, it was really wonderful.
05:35I loved Connor.
05:36I love any touching, heartfelt connection, riddled with absolutely insane detail.
05:43Love a like, you know, honestly, you know what it made me think of?
05:49It made me think of Jawbone in Fantasy High, of the thing, it's like, that fucking archetypal,
05:54but you just being like, my dad was a derp.
05:56What'd you say?
05:57Your dad said I have, I assume what he meant was, I have to do me, and went into a canyon.
06:03I gotta do me.
06:06Rain.
06:07There's enough similarities in sort of a very far away, bird's eye view of it.
06:13Nice.
06:14Yeah.
06:15It was very, it was really, really fun.
06:17I went to a Sparks game yesterday, watching basketball, and I kept saying, come on now.
06:23Come on now.
06:24And it's from you, and I don't know when I picked that up, but I was earnestly saying
06:28that at plays, and Frankie was like, will you please stop doing that?
06:32Dang.
06:33I don't know where this came from, and I don't know what character this is, but why are you doing that?
06:38Why are you doing that?
06:39But we're just in the crowd, and I'm like, ah, come on now.
06:41There's definitely some Pappy Connor middle ground, which Pappy is a character I played
06:47last time that was like an old cowboy.
06:51And then just like a lot of weird Alabama-isms that have just seeped in.
06:56Because the University of Alabama, Roll Tide is what they say for the football team there.
07:03A lot of that ends up being like, like, come on now.
07:08Like, there's a lot of that kind of while watching.
07:10Like, you mean like the way it morphs?
07:12Yeah.
07:13Spelled almost, it's never written out anywhere.
07:16K-E-E-E-M-O-N-E.
07:18Come on.
07:19Come on.
07:20Come on now.
07:21Come on now.
07:22Come on now.
07:23Come on.
07:24Come on, Pappy.
07:25Talking about stims, Allie, Quinn saying I ate my husband no seasoning has been in my
07:33brain forever.
07:34I ate my husband no seasoning.
07:35Not even salt.
07:36No seasoning.
07:37I want you all to know it wasn't like a culinary impulse that led her to that.
07:41It was definitely something else.
07:43Panic.
07:44Panic.
07:45Not a dash of cumin.
07:46No.
07:47Be funny, that's the justification.
07:49You were just really craving like Lawry's seasoned salt.
07:52No, it was about the dip.
07:54I made a gorgeous salt.
07:55Sort of like why I go to Del Taco's.
07:57It's really not for the food, it's for Del Scorcho sauce.
08:00It's a vehicle for Scorcho.
08:01I agree.
08:02Human no cumin?
08:03Huh?
08:04Human no cumin?
08:05Yeah, human no cumin.
08:06Okay.
08:07Come on now.
08:08Come on now.
08:09Come on now.
08:10Human no cumin.
08:11Human no cumin.
08:12If I think about your character game, especially the way you pitched it too hard at any given point
08:17in time, it will always make me laugh.
08:20That was a no.
08:21That was a no.
08:22She just ate it a little too fast.
08:23Huh?
08:24That was a no.
08:25And what was a no?
08:26That was a no.
08:27Oh, that was a no.
08:28And that was a no.
08:29Pitching it too hard.
08:30I was just being silly.
08:31Right, me too.
08:32I think when you were doing this beautiful funeral, I was like, whoa, would Quinn ever
08:36need closure around her husband?
08:38And I went, not this, no.
08:41Not where we're at right now.
08:43In like a decade maybe.
08:44Yeah.
08:45We'll circle back.
08:46That would be helpful for her.
08:47But there is growth in Quinn.
08:49Like the fact that she-
08:50Yeah, yeah.
08:51She popped ash in the cage.
08:52She let somebody in the cage.
08:53Let somebody in the cage.
08:54The key.
08:55You had the key the whole time.
08:56I can get out of the cage at any time.
08:57It's just me putting me in the cage.
08:59It's me putting me in the cage.
09:00That's my least favorite tarot card.
09:01You guys ever get that one?
09:02The cage?
09:03The head in the cage?
09:04The head in the cage.
09:05No, it's this lady-
09:06The Quinn card?
09:07No, it's this lady that's like tied up and if you read the lore of the card, it's that
09:11the binds are loose so she can leave at any moment.
09:14Oh, dang.
09:15She just kind of is choosing to stay tied up and it's like-
09:16Oh, what's the card?
09:17Someone look up the card.
09:18Somebody look up what that card is.
09:20I must know.
09:21Siri?
09:22I'm barefoot on the 110.
09:23I'll lay in a minute.
09:24What is it?
09:25Come on.
09:26The Eight of Swords.
09:27Yeah.
09:28It's the Eight of Swords.
09:29Yeah.
09:30Read it.
09:31I was still figuring it out.
09:32You're kind of like you have the power to go, but-
09:34On the Eight of Swords is a woman who is tied up and blindfolded.
09:37There are eight swords placed strategically around her in a way that restricts her movement
09:40as though she is in some kind of trap or jail.
09:42However, it seems as though whoever built the trap was a little lazy or hasty, leaving
09:45some open space where she could escape.
09:47But because of the blindfold preventing the woman from seeing, she has no way of finding
09:50her way out of this trap.
09:51The barren land around her might signify a lack of creativity of some sort, while the gray sky
09:55in the background can signify despair.
09:56Since there, she feels that there is no hope of her breaking free from the kind of situation
09:59that she's bound to.
10:00If only she could take the blindfold off, she would say that she could simply just walk
10:03out of this situation.
10:04But she can take it off.
10:05Okay, so everywhere by Michelle Branch can play during that entire scene.
10:09Yeah.
10:10So that's the Eight of Swords.
10:11That's the A-T-E of Swords.
10:12The A-T-E of Swords.
10:13The A-T-E of Swords.
10:14Oh no!
10:15Oh no!
10:16Oh no!
10:17Oh no!
10:18We got some breaking news coming across the desk.
10:20Coming across the desk.
10:21That's Michelle Branch tearing across the glad lands with the Gatling gun.
10:24You're thinking of Vanessa Carlton.
10:26You are.
10:27That's Vanessa Carlton.
10:29I've been doing the wrong song.
10:30Come on now!
10:31Wow!
10:32The whole time we were like singing.
10:34You mentioned that I was like, I think Zach might be thinking about the wrong singer-songwriter.
10:38This is turning inside out so I can see.
10:40We don't know that Michelle doesn't also play piano.
10:43That's true.
10:44Michelle plays piano for sure.
10:45But is she zipping down the two?
10:47The point is the Vanessa Carlton piano is a wheeled vehicle.
10:50Yes.
10:51Yeah.
10:52That's the point.
10:53That's the point.
10:54Fuck.
10:55It's good to know what the point is.
10:56That's also your head in a cage.
10:58This was the episode where we actually had,
11:03we had confronted Breaker this episode.
11:06Remember that?
11:07Right.
11:08That's crazy.
11:09That was so long ago.
11:10He has a different lifetime.
11:12Yeah.
11:13But we had a really lovely successful,
11:16it was a confrontation.
11:17Connor got there in time to save Tess.
11:20We got...
11:21This moment.
11:22To save Tess.
11:23We got a Kokomo warmth check, oh my god,
11:27that healed our poor sweet bug boy.
11:29Shit was getting tense, dude.
11:30It was getting tense.
11:31We had to do something nice.
11:32We had to do something nice.
11:33Say it, man.
11:34We had to do something nice for our friend here.
11:35And we heard your Beach Boys record.
11:37Oh!
11:38And I ran so happy with it.
11:41Yeah, it was so cute.
11:42It was important.
11:43Real cute.
11:44It was important.
11:45Can I ask a question about the Beach Boys record?
11:46Yeah.
11:47Cause I know earlier you'd mentioned that it was,
11:49like, it was incomplete, that it was skipping.
11:52Is that still the case?
11:54Is it still an incomplete record?
11:55I have anti-skip.
11:56I think has anti-skip technology.
11:58I think anti-skip technology.
11:59It's probably the only time he's heard...
12:02The whole song?
12:03Yeah.
12:04Cause I imagine in my little story that I've never communicated or ever,
12:07like, I do imagine he's probably heard clips, but it's like,
12:09what you're finding is probably a CD player with, you know,
12:12remember when your CD player, the last frame would blink for the battery?
12:16It'd be, like, four chunks, and, like, that's...
12:19Oh, yeah.
12:20I feel like it was a lot of that, where it's like,
12:21you finally have the disc, and you finally find something that could play it,
12:24or you have something that could play it, and then you finally find the disc,
12:26and you get, like, a blip, and then it's gone.
12:29And maybe that's happened to, you know,
12:31who knows how long he's wandering the desert before, like,
12:33Pappy finds him and he joins the caravan, you know?
12:36Yeah.
12:37Pappy.
12:38Pappy.
12:39There you are.
12:40Pappy.
12:41Pappy Parasone.
12:42Sorry, Poppy.
12:43Pappy Parasone.
12:44Pappy Parasone.
12:46Sorry.
12:47I'm dying.
12:48Well, I know nobody asked, but I do feel like the fart thing,
12:51probably Kokomo has a couple different stomachs.
12:54Yeah.
12:55There's probably just a fart chamber.
12:56Yeah.
12:57And nobody asked.
12:58Okay.
12:59That's how you go super safe.
13:00Are you sad?
13:01No one asked.
13:02Nobody asked.
13:03Was Kokomo hoping somebody was gonna be like,
13:05how are you farting on command?
13:06Yeah, maybe Kokomo wanted to be asked about his chance.
13:08At the top of next episode.
13:10There's a lot of serious stuff going on this episode.
13:12Okay, we'll check in.
13:13Yeah.
13:14And nobody asked Kokomo about his toots.
13:16Toots.
13:17You could have asked.
13:18A woof.
13:19That's a good note.
13:20A woof.
13:21A woof.
13:22A woof.
13:23A woof.
13:24Like a loof?
13:25You were so good.
13:26You were so good.
13:27You were so good.
13:28What an incredible.
13:29You were so good.
13:30A woof.
13:31I don't wanna get off this.
13:32No, no, no.
13:34You can see me talk more about a woof on my next LA in a Minute TikTok video.
13:39But you were so good.
13:40You were making me sob and cry.
13:42A woof.
13:43Yeah.
13:44A woof.
13:45I was a woofing.
13:46A woof.
13:47I was a woofing.
13:48That was great.
13:49That was really good.
13:50Really sweet.
13:51That was beautiful.
13:52So the lore drop of the skull was Moony's skull.
13:57Moony's skull.
13:58What the heck?
13:59You said that at some point, huh?
14:00No, I knew that actually already.
14:02So when you knocked it down, I went, that's crazy.
14:04I thought it was really good.
14:05I thought it was really good.
14:06I don't think it got mentioned until today.
14:08No, we knew that Moony was gone, but we knew that she had a skull.
14:11And there was like the crook of her arm, like where she was.
14:14That was, yeah, where she was.
14:15So she must have hidden it and she needed to like compulsively touch it.
14:18Well, it was just this thing that obviously whenever she's alone, she put the skull in the crook of her arm.
14:23Oh.
14:24Woof.
14:25And the idea of like.
14:26Fucked up.
14:27She woof.
14:28She woof.
14:29How woof, dude.
14:30How woof, dude.
14:31Oh, how woof.
14:32Yeah, man.
14:33It's really sad.
14:34But in a way it felt very, very.
14:36She woof.
14:37She woof.
14:38I don't know.
14:39We were talking about this a little bit before in the break, but it just, there's a,
14:43I feel like the thing that is true about Hoogie is a kind of, the mask on,
14:51there's an idea around flawlessness when the stakes are very high that feels like a part of the history heap.
14:57Even though the history heap's flawlessness, the history heap is the most,
15:00I think it's interesting that the history heap is the most charmless and Hoogie is the most charming.
15:06But the thing that connects them is the idea of flawlessness, of like the thing you're supposed to do,
15:11you're supposed to do with no rough edges and it's supposed to be done perfectly.
15:16And it's really funny because I remember being at a funeral for a loved one where,
15:23and everyone grieves in their own way, but someone was like, there was an exhortation from someone involved in the funeral to be like,
15:31don't miss this person because nothing bad happened.
15:36Right?
15:37A sort of insistence on like, and I think sometimes there's a, I think people, in this case,
15:44it was a reference to a supernatural element of like, which I also understand,
15:49like there's a beautiful poem that when my professor, my foster professor passed away,
15:52it said like, I am the diamond's gift of snow, like, do not stand at my grave and cry, I am not there, I did not die.
15:58And there's a, when you can be in that half of your mind, that's beautiful.
16:08But occasionally you have to walk over to the other half of your mind where you go, they're gone.
16:13And it is bad.
16:15And please don't tell me not to think that this is bad.
16:18Yeah, totally.
16:19Like, it is a really funny thing where it's like, you go, you have these two modalities that are present in your brain
16:25and I think you need them both.
16:26And I think that was what I was trying to say as Aunt Freaky was like, oh, we don't really do well with contradictions.
16:32We don't really do well with paradoxes.
16:34We're trying to find the truth.
16:36And actually the only way this is gonna work is when I walk over to the half of my mind that's like, they're everywhere.
16:42They're not gone.
16:43And then I walk over to the other half of my mind where it is, ah, they're gone.
16:47This fucking sucks.
16:48This fucking sucks.
16:49Mm-hmm.
16:50I think that opens up too.
16:51It's a very human thing where it's like grief, in my opinion, it's very lonely.
16:55But as soon as you're with somebody else, all of those doors are open.
17:00And it's like, you can find the place where you get to go, it sucks.
17:03Because then the person who's outside of it doesn't go, oh, I'm sorry.
17:06Or, thanks for saying that.
17:08Or like, oh, I can't imagine.
17:09It's just like you actually get to be real and vulnerable and talk about the entire thing.
17:15And that's, I think, what got me was like, oh, these people are finally not alone in their grief.
17:21What a gift when you said, Vic, that Freaky had not been at the funeral.
17:25That was an incredible gift in that moment.
17:27That was like, oh shit, that makes her make so much more sense.
17:34And yeah, I thought that was beautiful.
17:37Oh, thanks.
17:38Yeah.
17:39I mean, it just, it is so interesting.
17:42Um, just in terms of, oh, I had something I was gonna say and now I really can't remember.
17:46I'm so sorry.
17:47No, it's okay.
17:48I-
17:49A little woof there.
17:50Yeah, I woofed it, kinda.
17:55I, um, yeah, I don't know, maybe it'll come back.
17:57And was that helpful for you to remember?
17:59That was great.
18:00That was great.
18:01That was great.
18:02That was great.
18:03So sorry.
18:04That I loved.
18:05It was gone before that.
18:06Jacob was saying, Jacob was talking about the idea of like, being with someone in that moment where things suck.
18:11Oh yeah, where it's this idea of also too, like, uh, when you've got this greater grief and you're sort of like around other people that are experiencing grief as a concept and you can sort of, for me at least, like, look at sort of like the, oh yeah, like this is hard, but we can also talk about kind of the beautiful sides of it.
18:26But then when you're dealing with somebody that's dealing with the exact same grief as you.
18:31And I feel like that is where you can access that part where it's like, you can, uh, see the sides of it that maybe are like the messier on more unfinished edges of it.
18:40And it's easier to talk about, um, the specifics, uh, whereas like the concept.
18:45And I think that that's very true for Hoogie where like dealing with grief is a concept.
18:49It's like easier to access like the beauty and the part that how it's a part of life.
18:54And, uh, and I do think that this is, uh, cause I think something big I was thinking about with this character is like, it was a long time ago.
19:02Um, and so it's not something that's affecting their day to day.
19:05Uh, but it is, uh, it, so it was like, I think a very special thing for this person to be able to access that with somebody that also like understood intimately what that was like.
19:15Um, yeah, it's very, the, the, being able to share with someone in that moment, my, I have my friend Miranda, we go, who lost the same professor who was a very, very influential figure.
19:31We go and get pastries and we will, we text you.
19:34Sometimes we'll just get a text that just has a little croissant as a thing, even just to be like thinking about Professor Davis today.
19:42You know, like it's, it's just a very lovely thing.
19:46And it's very like, it is that, that the, the contradictory part of that is so challenging.
19:53And I've been thinking.
19:55But a hard coffee to show up to.
19:57Yeah.
19:58You know?
19:59Totally.
20:00Yeah.
20:01And just being like the, the, but you, you do, like you need other people that get it.
20:05Yeah.
20:06You need other people around that get it and you need other people that like share a memory of that person.
20:10Because you like, it was just that, that funeral was such a beautiful idea from Quinn.
20:17But I was so glad that the funeral also wasn't going well.
20:21Because actually what these people needed was to not nail it.
20:25You know what I mean?
20:26Like it's, I do think there was something I almost, I forget what it was.
20:30It was, we moved past the opportunity for it to come up in the scene.
20:33But there was a part that I think is Hoogie's, even as different as the dice are.
20:40That is Hoogie's Achilles' heel and also Aunt Freaky's.
20:43And maybe also the history heaps written more largely.
20:45Which is, like you, oh God, Vic, when you said you're not going to know your way through these feelings.
20:52Whee!
20:53Yeah, that's the thesis right there.
20:55Because the thing is, symbols can quickly lose their meaning.
21:02And the history heap is a place all about symbols.
21:05And you know, to the point where like, I'm sorry stops meaning I'm sorry.
21:09You say it when you like, open a door and someone's in the room that you weren't expecting.
21:13You're like, oh, I'm sorry.
21:14Like, you have this thing where it's just like, it becomes the sound you make and it has stopped signifying what the deeper meaning is.
21:22Which is, I'm like, I have sorrow, right?
21:25Like, I regret that.
21:27Or like, I feel those feelings you feel.
21:29And it was so crazy to watch this thing where it's like, yeah, well, we had a funeral.
21:35Death is a part of life.
21:36It's beautiful.
21:37And we say goodbye.
21:39And of course, I miss my child.
21:41And it's like, yeah, but that is totally meaningless if it is disconnected from an actual experience of what that means, right?
21:50You can't just say the words.
21:53There's just two, both very different people, but also like very poised people.
21:57And to like, see the messiness of that feels like what you're talking, like it's just the reality of it.
22:04Yeah, like how do we short circuit control in that moment and let go?
22:08Yeah, there's a toxicity to poise.
22:10It's the lines in the mask, yeah.
22:12Because I think the thing that I realized in that especially is that like, I mean, Hoogie and Aunt Freaky are very, very similar.
22:21Hoogie's charm is just so much higher.
22:24The way that people interact with them is so much different than Aunt Freaky, I think.
22:29But I do think that they have the same problem at the heart of it.
22:34I was thinking about this because this place is so high in awareness.
22:39Yeah.
22:40And that's like such a word used in meditation.
22:43So I'm like, awareness is really important.
22:46But I think that the history heap, it's not just awareness.
22:50It's awareness and then an instant judgment.
22:53Yeah.
22:54This is good. This is bad.
22:55And then that's the whole thing that you're trying to break in meditation around awareness is like, just let awareness be.
23:01Just let it rest there and you don't have to have a take or like a guttural reaction to it.
23:06Yeah.
23:07But it's like the most judgmental place imaginable.
23:10Like being there, every single person was like, so stressed, so over a barrel.
23:14Yeah.
23:15And you're like, oh, you just feel constantly judged by everyone around you and your own self.
23:21Yes.
23:22So it's like, whoa.
23:23Well, I also think too, the whole freaky thing, which in terms of her getting that little,
23:28so we've had like a boost to awareness for Poppy, not Herbie.
23:32We've had a boost to warmth for Hoogie here.
23:36And I think that like for Freaky having this little thing of like charm.
23:41I think when we were making this game system, I continually talked to people who for some reason had like an attitude around charm.
23:50Where they were like, well, that's the fake, like I like all these more than I like charm.
23:55Charm is like, in other words, there's a thing where it's like, well, that's just surface level or something.
23:59And it's really funny for me as I felt almost felt like in some conversations I was having before the season got started,
24:05not with anyone here, but with other people that I was talking to you about or other designers.
24:08What's that?
24:09No, I'm kidding.
24:10Name names.
24:11Name names.
24:12Of just being like charm is not fake.
24:16It's putting extra effort into making people feel good because you know that that little bit of extra,
24:24it's like making of getting someone a gift or like making a thing for them.
24:28Or it's like a charming house.
24:29Yeah.
24:30There's like handmade things.
24:31There's little like accents and stuff like that.
24:33Yeah.
24:34It's like a little effort.
24:35A little bit of effort.
24:36And I think there are relationships.
24:37Especially like coming from New York, there are a lot of people who lionize a relationship
24:41where they're like, when you're close to people, you can treat them like shit.
24:45You know?
24:46Because the love lets you bust balls.
24:48You do this other thing.
24:50I remember being on an indie improv team where we loved each other so much that we went out
24:55and did a show.
24:56And we just started doing stuff like we started doing tag outs hitting each other in the face
25:00because it was like that's how close you are to people.
25:03And we got off stage and went, you know?
25:06I sometimes am going in and like sitting in with other teams where I'm on my best behavior
25:12and I'm treating those people better than I'm treating people who legitimately I consider family to me
25:18because the walls have come down so hard.
25:21And you go, maybe I can put a little more sauce on these tightest circle people and go a little farther to be like, oh, I'm not making you feel like how much I know I love you.
25:31But there's that thing that says like the people that you're closest to and the people that you make fun of are the people that like you embrace more
25:38and that the ability to kind of like jokingly be rude to people is like a way that you can connect deeper
25:44and like also secretly maybe talk about some issues that are going on and let out pressure valves and stuff like that.
25:50And there's like a little truth to that.
25:52I do think that playfully ribbing someone is something that when you are close to someone you can go, hey, here's actually feedback because we're living our lives together.
26:01Yeah.
26:02Right? And I'm doing it in a joyful way because I want you to know that our relationship's not being threatened by this like critique or this moment of feedback I'm giving you.
26:10But there is definitely a really toxic place that it can get to where it's like, you know what I mean?
26:15It's like I we are constant fonts of negativity and gracelessness or like, I don't know, thinking about being in a long term relationship and being like, go get dressed up for date night.
26:26You know what I mean?
26:27Like something that you go like put that little extra bit of effort in because, yeah, the walls have come down and there's a lot of vulnerability and safety.
26:36But like effort's good, too. That's nice. You know, like, it's a good thing.
26:41I don't know. It felt there was there was there was so many beautiful things to draw from.
26:45I love God, that scene where we're who he finally just says this sucks and I miss you and I wish you why did you leave me?
26:52Beautiful.
26:53So beautiful.
26:54Oh my God, just watching tears stream down your face.
26:57I've gotten I think that's the most I've cried on camera, which is very.
27:02I think so.
27:03I think so.
27:04Because it's very funny.
27:05You had one fucking just.
27:06One just dropped.
27:07Boom.
27:08Boom.
27:094K zoom in.
27:104K zoom in.
27:11It's very.
27:12For the editors, 4K zoom in.
27:144K zoom in.
27:15It's very challenging because I don't get to spend a lot of time with any of my characters.
27:19I was caught completely off guard by how tapped into Aunt Freaky I got.
27:25Very formal.
27:26Interesting.
27:27Very formal academic person trying to tap into.
27:30Who can't stop bringing up bird facts at the funeral.
27:35You said the quiet part out loud.
27:37It was beautiful to share that scene with you and with everybody here at the table.
27:43It's a real gift.
27:44I have a corvid brain.
27:45I love it.
27:46It's really.
27:47I love stories and I love make believe and I love that it gets us to places that are really
27:50special.
27:51It's special to be surrounded by like responsible artists who are like, let it fucking go.
27:56Patience is one of the hardest things I think to achieve in improv.
27:59Like through patience.
28:00Well our defense mechanism is humor.
28:01Yeah.
28:02So it was all of us just sitting here being like, and I'm not going to do the thing.
28:06And I'm not going to relieve the pressure.
28:09There was a famous, there was, I think a set, there was a set that, that many, many years
28:14ago, it's somewhere UCB of like a set where, where everyone was silent except for one person.
28:22And I remember someone being like that person who was doing all the talking.
28:25And I remember being like, it's the other seven.
28:27Everyone else made that decision.
28:29You know what I'm saying?
28:30Like you're talking about restraint and patience and stuff like that.
28:32Totally beautiful.
28:33And then we were, then we're listening to Michelle Branch everywhere.
28:37Yeah.
28:38When you were hearing something totally different.
28:40You were hearing a different song.
28:41Yeah.
28:42Different song.
28:43And then we get this stuff.
28:44We get Uncle Puss's records and we go look for Parcel at the very end of the episode.
28:47Yes.
28:48Flashy facade.
28:49Oh my God.
28:50Did you know?
28:51Did you have an inkling?
28:52I had an inkling when you left and you were clutching something.
28:56And I said, Ooh, I've been there.
28:57But yeah, auntie, that was the birth of auntie as well.
29:00Wow.
29:01I was that person.
29:02Herbie was Parcel at that moment.
29:05At that moment.
29:06That was the origin story of Herbie turning into auntie.
29:09I knew it.
29:10Somebody had to do drugs.
29:11Somebody else had to do drugs.
29:12Somebody else had to do drugs.
29:13And it was Parcel.
29:14And it makes sense why Parcel would then join the caravan.
29:19The caravan.
29:20Oh yeah.
29:21You start as an ally.
29:22Do you know what I mean?
29:23Before you know it.
29:24Everyone starts as a staunch ally.
29:26And then you're like, I'm just here to protect all my friends.
29:29And I'm just at all these marches.
29:31Yes.
29:32And I just think they deserve equal rights.
29:34And then the they suddenly turns into we.
29:38Suddenly becomes we.
29:39And then it's I.
29:40And then it's I.
29:41And then it's me, me, me, me, me.
29:42And then you're gay.
29:43That's it.
29:44Me, me, me, me.
29:45Me, me, me, me.
29:46Well, it's been great.
29:47Because I've been thinking about that for a while.
29:49I was thinking about Parcel's connection for a minute.
29:52And when I realized that Parcel was not really a foil as much as someone that had a deeper
29:57connection and respect for what Poppy was doing.
30:00And I felt like that moment of Parcel not defending.
30:04I was like that.
30:05In a lot of ways this season it's been like there have been negativities and betrayals.
30:09Aunt Freaky fucking screamed at Herbie.
30:12Yeah.
30:13Breaker physically assaulting you.
30:15Right.
30:16Like there have been scary.
30:17Justin Sheffield was off in Rock Club trying to sabotage the whole chili cook up.
30:20People have been doing very negative things.
30:22And it's just this is a season where we turn around a little bit.
30:25And that moment where Parcel's betrayal.
30:27I was like Parcel's betrayal.
30:28If I get an opportunity Parcel's betrayal will be revealed to be a deeper thing.
30:33Yeah.
30:34That they're dealing with a lot.
30:35And I think like you said I think maybe we don't get to there if not for that moment
30:38where Herbie is like defends.
30:40Like Coco was defending you and you defend them.
30:43Yeah.
30:44Because I think at that point you already knew.
30:46I knew it.
30:47I said it last time I was like yes we like hurt people hurt people.
30:50You know what I mean?
30:51Yeah.
30:52That's very this season.
30:53I understood what Parcel's whole thing was.
30:56It's about survival.
30:57It's about leaning into flowing with the current and not swimming upstream.
31:03You know Poppy Persona is like a salmon swims upstream.
31:07But when she goes back home she is out.
31:10We watch her about face.
31:11Literally.
31:12Fly down the river.
31:13So she's you know Poppy is committing the same crime as Parcel at that moment.
31:20Yeah.
31:21She gets it.
31:22Right.
31:23Herbie fully understands it because Herbie is also doing that too.
31:26Fully loaded.
31:27Not standing up for Poppy.
31:28I fucking.
31:29I love that she was sick though.
31:30No.
31:31No.
31:32What'd you say?
31:33Hey don't worry about it.
31:34Watch it.
31:35Watch it at home.
31:36Herbie fully loaded.
31:37Hey y'all can see the joke at home.
31:38Find it inside.
31:39Fully loaded and then let it hang.
31:41Into eye contact.
31:43Watch it at home.
31:44I couldn't not say.
31:46Say it.
31:47You don't need to.
31:48They can watch it at home.
31:49But that's the thing is when we come back so we have whoever flashy facade.
31:52We were meeting her for the first time.
31:54We love.
31:55And when we come back we have the history council.
32:00You know we have this breakthrough with Hoogie and taking Mooney out on the road.
32:04Did you guys get that I invented karaoke again?
32:07Invented?
32:08Huh?
32:09I'm sorry what?
32:10Oh yes yes yes.
32:11Watch it at home.
32:12With the distance they all had writing on them and we could sing along.
32:15You could sing with a hoogie.
32:16You invented karaoke again.
32:17That's what I was trying to do.
32:19That was your thing that you were doing.
32:20So that's what I wrote it down.
32:21I thought you were trying to get a moment where we all sing together.
32:24Yeah.
32:25Which I was like that's awesome.
32:26Can I be so honest with you?
32:27I was so scared you were going to come back with a medal that you made for it.
32:30It was kind of that energy.
32:31That's why I gave it that.
32:33Scared.
32:34You were scared of that.
32:35Can we retcon that right now actually?
32:37I was so afraid based on I don't know how much my friends sort of like punched me in the face.
32:43Roasted you.
32:44You were meant to.
32:45Well to be fair.
32:46To be fair.
32:47You were meant to fear that.
32:49It was a hawoof.
32:50It was a hawoof in the story.
32:52It was a hawoof in the story.
32:53It was good.
32:54I did that for you to feel fear on purpose.
32:56I wanted you to think I was coming back with that but then I wanted to invent karaoke.
33:00I thought it was like hymnal.
33:02Yeah.
33:03Okay well it's karaoke.
33:04I think it's very important to me that karaoke is real in this world.
33:08It's karaoke.
33:09I agree.
33:10Karaoke is real.
33:12The quest to find the spear shaker, Ko, and apparently Uncle Pus and maybe two other siblings.
33:23Two of your four siblings.
33:24They're gonna be even tinier.
33:25Maybe.
33:26I don't know.
33:27A little flashback to the spoon on the table and your little brother breaker on his back.
33:32We're covering all that in just one ep?
33:36Come on.
33:37Who knows?
33:38Maybe the rains will come for all of you and we will not succeed in our quest.
33:44Tune in next week to find out whether the caravan and these dusty do-gooders can get it done.
33:50See you there!
33:51Woo!
33:52Awesome.
33:53Hey, don't forget to tune in to my next L.A.
33:55Tune in.
33:56Oh no.
33:57Don't forget.
33:58It's all gonna be on the Hollywood Rez.
33:59Oh whoop.
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