00:00A lot of my friends are black designers. So to see them have opportunities that they otherwise would not have had, I think it was really important in that way. And it's unfortunate that it took someone obviously passing for that to happen.
00:13But we were able to really gain some equity in the industry that we contribute so much to.
00:21But I also saw it as kind of like a double-edged sword because these opportunities were not going to last. And I think we're three years in and we can see how that's already starting to shift to where black creatives, black designers of all different types are getting way less opportunities than they were in 2020 and 2021 and 2022.
00:43Like we're in 2023 and people are like, okay, what's happening? It definitely didn't last.
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