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00:00Thank you so much. My name is April Dupree. I am a fitness and wellness expert, a television
00:17personality here in New Orleans. And what I like to tell people is that I am a Jane of
00:21all trades and a master of some. I'll be a master of all soon as I age, but right now
00:27I'm just a master of some. So I am here with Nurse Haskin. Isn't she beautiful? She was
00:37concerned about that cleavage, girl, but no, you weren't giving us a life. Say, hang on
00:42for about your cleavage. We got to give it, serve it. Well, thank you guys again so much
00:48for joining us. We are talking about the potential positives and also negatives that happens with
00:53online dating. The risk, of course, sometimes outweigh the positives, but obviously Nurse
00:59Haskins is an expert and she's going to tell us a little bit more about, of course, how
01:03to stay safe online, but how to also enjoy yourself because there is a possible way to find love.
01:09Now, don't look to me. My husband and I have been knowing each other since we were 18 years
01:13old. We've been together for 10 years. I've only been married for three. Online wasn't even
01:17a thing when we got together. I'm sure my age, but it is what it is. Listen. Well, thank you so much.
01:27So Nurse Haskins, tell us a little bit more about yourself because you're fabulous. Tell us a little
01:32bit more about your background and, of course, why you're here today to talk about the importance
01:37of staying safe online. Absolutely. But first of all, thank you for having me. This is my first time
01:42in your beautiful state. Oh, you're so sweet. So thank you for having me. I am a native of
01:47Englewood, New Jersey, by way of Atlanta, Georgia, and now I am here. I have been, I'm a board-certified
01:55family nurse practitioner who has been in health care over 26 seven years. I'm aging myself just a little.
02:00Oh, girl, you're talking when you started when you were five. That's what you're telling me. That's what you're saying.
02:04Yes. I have been in health care, again, over 20-something years. A nurse for 22 years. I'm a board-certified
02:11family nurse practitioner who practices in Atlanta. Family nurse practitioners see everyone
02:16from 18 months of age and up, love pediatrics, and just the health care advocacy and promote
02:25health promotion and wellness is just my thing. So at any age, as long as you can walk and talk,
02:30we can talk about it. Let's give it up for Nurse Haskins, y'all. Well, that is family. So as a nurse
02:38practitioner, obviously, you have so many people that come across your doors. Tell us a little bit
02:43more about what are the highest risk people that you see, especially in regards to online dating or
02:50just staying safe in general. That may pertain more to females versus males, but tell us a little bit
02:55more about that. Absolutely. So when I was in my younger years of nursing, it used to be college and early
03:01adults. Now we've gotten a little back to like middle school, right? I'm a mom, so I'm seeing more
03:08adolescents and it used to be a younger age. You know, we have these apps now. Social media is the
03:12thing, right? It's the new, you know, way that we're living. It's no longer that we meet people and we meet
03:18them at school and things like that. It's been so convenient for people to have the microwave society that the younger that we get
03:25with teenage pregnancy, with teenage pregnancy, STDs and things like that. So it's getting younger and
03:29younger. And I think the seriousness of health promotion is what we're not paying most attention to.
03:35So you can go anywhere from 11 and up to using a social media app. I mean, I'm a mom as well. So you
03:42just have to be very cautious when it comes to just protecting yourself. Yeah, and that is terrifying. I don't
03:48have kids yet, but to think that kids are online at that age, I mean, you know, for our generation,
03:54let me tell you all something. Thank the Lord that social media was our girl when I was in high
04:00school, but certainly not when I was in college. I wouldn't even be here to be honest with you.
04:04That's a whole other stage topic and story. Let's talk about, you mentioned STDs and obviously
04:10that is something that is terrifying, especially in the black community where oftentimes we don't
04:15like to talk about health in general, let alone something as attached to a stigma as STDs. So what would be
04:23a few areas of, I guess, suggestions that you would give people from adolescence all the way up to
04:30adulthood when it comes to not only being safe when it comes to STDs, but particularly while dating online
04:36and getting to know those individuals. Because at first, these are all strangers. Even though you may
04:41obviously be connecting with a person online, you really don't know them. You just know this facade of
04:46them. So tell us how we can bring up the uncomfortable conversation like STDs if we're reaching out and getting to know
04:52someone or just in general if we're talking to our kids or talking to our friends and our family.
04:56Because sometimes we need to give those people tough love. It's not what they want to hear,
05:00but it's what they need to hear. Absolutely. I think for me, my first encounter was when I was at
05:05Duke University. I was working in pediatrics. Y'all heard that, Duke, girl. Come on, give it up for Duke,
05:09all right? Working in pediatrics at Duke University and I started seeing a lot of adolescent females come in that look like me.
05:18So of course, you know, I'm going to advocate and I'm going to let her and I'm going to pull her aside,
05:23right? If I see you more than once, I'm seeing you too much. So I would ask her, hey, tell me about
05:27you. And we started to talk about self-worth. And if it brought tears to your eyes, it brought reality
05:33to enter in front of you. So we have to make young women aware of who they are and their worth.
05:38And of course, because I'm a woman and because I, and this is not anything against any males,
05:43but as a woman and also having brothers and having a son as well, it's about self-worth for
05:48me. So if you're going to date someone, make sure they respect you, first of all, and make sure that you
05:54have your, you know, your, your standards of what you want and what you will accept. And I think in
05:59online dating, we've erased all of that for the convenience, for the attention. So you start to dress
06:04less, you start to carry yourself and you start to, like the attention is there, right? So it's no longer that
06:09we court you, we take you out. I mean, I remember in middle school, I made my daughter hang up on
06:14someone because I heard the conversation. I'm like, I don't like the way he's talking to you.
06:18Let's go ahead and end that call right now. So, you know, I know that I'm older, but I also need
06:23to let you know, it doesn't matter how old you are, the self-worth should always be there. So I would
06:27caution, you know, teenagers and it started there, just kind of make sure that you understand your
06:31worth and make other people, I don't care where you meet them at, make sure they respect you from the
06:35door. So if it's online or if it's in Starbucks, make sure they respect you. The STD rate in,
06:41I'm not going to name the college, but it was a lot of, it's a popular, very, very huge college in
06:46North Carolina. A lot of the girls were coming in for STD checks and they were positive. So one young
06:51lady, I just brought it to her attention. I said, Hey, we can go ahead and give you an antibiotic for
06:55this, but what if you come in tomorrow and the antibiotic doesn't work because it's not curable.
07:00How are you going to handle the rest of your life living with it? So it's just the reality check. I think
07:05that we as healthcare providers, we as mothers, we as sisters, we need to have those real talks,
07:09right? I'm not trying to be your friend. I'm trying to protect your life. So I had that talk with her.
07:13Hey, I'm seeing you. I've seen you before. I see you in here again. So what if next time you came in
07:18here and your diagnosis was not curable? How would you handle that? So just a realistic perspective,
07:24I think it's going to be very helpful and we as healthcare providers are responsible for that.
07:28Yeah. Well, I mean, that is, I can't even imagine how terrifying that is, especially to see kids at a
07:32young age and young women. Um, so many issues that they can have even with childbirth later on
07:38in life, like very, very scary topics. So thank you for doing all that you do as a healthcare
07:43professional, because unfortunately, sometimes their parents aren't even there to guide them,
07:47as we would hope that everybody would at least have that blessing and benefit of having good people
07:53in their lives. Sometimes healthcare professionals are the only people that they can go to that actually
07:57have the knowledge of what it takes to take care of themselves. Uh, you mentioned something
08:03particularly about having those uncomfortable conversations. If I am dating someone, not me,
08:07y'all, cause I'm married, but hypothetically speaking, if someone was online dating and they
08:15wanted to bring up the conversation of has someone recently gotten tested in the past? Have you had
08:21certain STDs? Uh, what would be an easy way that is non-confrontational, but that the person doesn't
08:29take offense to that you're reaching out to where that individual can gather information while still
08:36getting to know that individual? What would you suggest? What's the best way to approach it?
08:40Absolutely. So I think that you just need to be a realist. I think that once we put our white jackets on and our
08:45white coats, people look at us as a higher authority, but we need to also be real. We need to be relatable
08:51and we need to be someone that you're comfortable with talking to. So I would ask them, hey, when you're
08:57having these dates, are you having those conversations? Do you know if your partner was recently tested?
09:02Are you comfortable discussing that? If not, then protect yourself at all costs. You know, you have to protect yourself.
09:08And sometimes people don't want those conversations or don't want to hear those conversations,
09:14but you're on the other end and you're going to receive them when they have that, like I said,
09:18the incurable disease or that STD. And I think that, I think chlamydia, like we started having names for
09:24it, like chlamydia, gonorrhea, like syphilis. And I mean, everything that people think, or I think the
09:30younger you are, you think, oh, that was when my grandmother was out or that things like that was back in
09:34the day. No, you're bringing it back. You're bringing it back fast. Like, like, like what do
09:39you call it? Bell bottoms. You're bringing it back in style for everybody that doesn't see it anymore.
09:43You're introducing it. And I think we're going to add another plus to yours because you've had it
09:47several times. So I think it's just having those real life conversations. And once we put that jacket
09:53on the other times, you know, I don't even put it on, right? I think people get what we call white
09:57coast syndrome. When you see a healthcare provider, you're intimidated by speaking with them. I don't wear
10:01my jacket. And I'll ask them, is it okay if I remove my jacket? Is it okay if I talk to you?
10:06Can we have a conversation? So you just have to be someone who's realistic, leaving your degrees
10:12outside the door because people want to feel comfortable coming to you. So I would honestly
10:17tell whoever's in front of me, ask those questions before you lay down with him. Make sure that you're
10:22going to get up alive. Protect yourself. Very, very important. Uncomfortable conversations
10:27to obviously have at the beginning, but you know, it's more uncomfortable going to the doctor to get
10:32tested for something or treated for something obviously that could last you a lifetime or
10:38for a woman getting pregnant. And then after the fact, obviously having to deal with raising a child
10:43that you may have not necessarily had in your plan. So thank you. Cause that's definitely
10:47a really good information. Now let's talk about, we are talking about online dating y'all. So let's
10:52actually talk about experiences. Do you have any personal experiences with online dating? And if you
10:58don't, do you know someone who has and then tell us the most outrageous story that you've heard from
11:07that individual? Now I did say I was a little older, right? So before I got married,
11:15I have to admit I did date online and to me it wasn't for me, right? I don't want to meet your
11:20representative and I'm, I'm a person of course when you're, when you're in medical profession,
11:24you don't have time for anything. You don't have time to talk, walk, chart, eat, or pee. So I don't
11:29have time to meet your representative. And I think in online dating, those are one of the things that you
11:34have to be prepared for. You have to be prepared to go through the cycle of winning things and winning
11:39people out of who's actually for you and who's telling you what you want to hear to get what they want,
11:44right? So for me, it wasn't for me. Um, I met at a couple of coffee shops in public places, which I
11:51would also recommend if you're going to do it in public places because we do hear and see horror
11:56stories of young ladies that lose their lives and things like that by people that they met online,
12:01right? So I would just say I did do it and now I'm happily married. My husband is my husbandger and he's
12:08here. Did you meet him online? I did not. Okay. I did not. He is actually one of my childhood friends
12:15from many, many, many years ago. Yes. We're in the same boat. Yes. He's here. Oh, that's a blessing.
12:23But, um, I do have some close friends that met their husbands online and they're married. One of my
12:28friends is on her anniversary right now with her husband that she met online and it was an amazing
12:35experience for her. I have close friends that do it, you know, um, and they found their, you know,
12:42the love of their life. I have friends that have done it and been successful and then I have people
12:46who are still doing it that I know of. And again, it's just those comfortable conversations that you
12:51need to have. Like, Hey, when do you settle down? Do you go to church to meet someone? Do you continue
12:55to go to nightclubs? Like, what do you do to meet the person or the love of your life? And we all are
13:01looking for that. Let's just be honest, right? You all want to, everyone wants to be married one day.
13:04Absolutely. Um, if you're not married, but where do you go? How do you remain safe? And is that
13:10actually the person for you? I'm not against it. Let me just say that. But I am just, I think to me,
13:16the world that we live in today, it's a little scary. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. And safety comes first.
13:22Um, I know that it can be very scary to put yourself out there, let alone to put yourself out there online
13:28for millions and endless of numbers of people to judge you. So I appreciate you sharing both your
13:34experience and then your friend's experience because it makes such a difference. And as you
13:37mentioned before, you have several friends that have actually had success with dating online.
13:42So it comes with risks, but obviously, you know, sometimes you can reap the benefits of putting
13:48yourself out there. So thank you. Now that y'all been all up in our business, let's hear from you guys.
13:54So how many of us by the show of hands have actually dated online? Don't tell me if it was successful
14:00or not, just if you dated online. That's almost a majority, y'all. Come on out. Okay. We living in a
14:06different world. Okay. Uh, let's actually hear some stories from y'all. I want a couple of people to
14:13share about what your experience has been online dating. It could be positive. It could be negative.
14:18It could be both where you've had negative experiences and then another one was positive.
14:23So let's hear from a couple of you guys. And I'm actually going to get up and hand y'all the mic
14:27so you are able to share a little bit more. Reggie, and who wants to go first? Okay. All right.
14:31I love a good volunteer, girl. That makes my job easier. Hi, I'm Nurse Haskins' sister.
14:39And I did meet my husband online. I was browsing through one night, just bored. But when I
14:48heard he was a preacher, I said, ooh, click, not for me. But something kept going through my mind,
14:55go back, go back. So I called back, went to his number and I talked to him about two hours.
15:03We met up at Old Charlie's and I didn't like him because I'm like, he a preacher and I want to just
15:10do my thing. So I tried and I'm like, nah, I left for two years and laying in bed one night
15:19he just crossed my mind. I called him and wished him a happy birthday.
15:23He called and he texted me a happy birthday, but we're three days apart.
15:27When I called him and wished him a happy birthday, he was like, let me take you out for my birthday.
15:32And the rest was history. We've been together since we met in 2004.
15:37Girl, stop. That is fantastic. Oh my goodness. That's such a blessing. And look, you wrote him
15:43all first. You were like, he's a preacher. Hell no. I did.
15:46And then look at God. God put him in your brain and I do want to say this. I think
15:52God put him in my life because in 2014 I had two heart attacks and he was on his way to preach
15:58and he turned around and came in that house and saved my life.
16:01Wow. So everything happened for a reason. Sometimes you just got to
16:07understand the assignment. What a blessing. Wait now, girl, the most important thing,
16:11what app was this?
16:13Lava Life. You remember?
16:14Lava Life. Lava Life. She's there.
16:17Now, Lava Life paid this woman. Give her her coins.
16:20She met a man online. She's promoting y'all for free.
16:24It's still going. So some of my girlfriends, I'd be like, look,
16:27you might need to call Lava Life because this ain't working for you.
16:29Wait. I love it. Let's give her a hand. It's how easy to share your story. That's great. Thank you.
16:36One more person. Share your experience with online dating. It could be positive. It could be negative.
16:41All right. Now, all of y'all raised your hand that y'all online dating and now y'all gonna be shy?
16:48Okay. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. Yeah. You can talk. Okay. So tell us your name. My name is Dionne.
16:55All right, Dionne. Welcome. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
16:59So dating. I've been dating off and on with these online situations. God bless you. What I will say,
17:05it's not fun. It's not fun. It's very draining. And you do, as she said, you meet their representative,
17:13a lot of them. And in my opinion, what I come across is fictitious profiles. They create profiles
17:20to attract women like me, women like us that want to be meaningful relationships. And they really don't
17:26want to be in relationships. They want casual shifts, not relationships. Okay. So, so you go
17:33through these process, you got to go through the process, the process of eliminations and going out
17:36and getting dressed up. It gets on my nerves. However, um, I am currently dating somebody now. Okay.
17:43That I met online five months now. We're going good so far. We'll see what happens. But I just say that
17:50to say that you do have to be cautious. You do have to be mindful where you're meeting people,
17:56the meet and greets, make it real quick, in and out kind of situation. You just got to take your time.
18:02Don't let anyone, uh, push you. You know what I mean? Like force you to go through the process. It is
18:06what it is. This is the world we living in. And so online dating, most of us that are entrepreneurs,
18:12we work a lot. We don't get it. We don't go out. We don't go out much. So our way of getting to meet
18:17someone is online. So, so far, I haven't had any really horror stories. I will say that. It's just
18:23the, the me and me on that BS for the most part. Girl, that's being in general. That's not just online
18:28though. Come on. But that's again, another topic, another stage, another conversation.
18:34Thank you so much. Let's give those women a round of applause for sharing their stories,
18:38because that's not easy. So thank you for sharing that. You mentioned about meeting at safe spaces,
18:45making sure that you are comfortable with the individual. Nurse Haskins, let's talk about
18:50how you can vet someone online before you actually meet them in person, especially as a woman.
18:55And as a black woman, uh, it can be very scary to put ourselves out there, but especially when it comes
19:00to learning about someone online and then taking that leap of faith to meet them in person. Now,
19:06personally me, I've never had any experience with online dating. I just don't feel like it would be
19:11a good fit for me because I don't like have time to get to know people in general.
19:18Now when it comes to dating, because it just feels like a job interview. Um, but tell us what's the
19:25safest way of vetting someone? Because if I put whatever online, then it seems like it's true,
19:31but it actually may not be. So what's the best way for us to vet somebody and stay safe?
19:36I would just say, do your homework, you know, don't be so quick. Don't be so anxious. Do your
19:40homework, ask questions, um, get to know someone. I mean, you can have phone conversations. You don't
19:46have to meet up with everyone. Um, I would actually, like I said, do your homework, ask questions. Um,
19:52there are ways that people have done and I've known people to do like background checks on people to
19:57see if they had, you know, any type of predator, um, you know, or criminal backgrounds and things
20:03like that. So I would just say, do your homework and take your time with it. It's a process like
20:07everything else. It can be very rewarding in the end, but just make sure that you take your time with
20:12it. Yeah, no, very important. Um, speaking of that, doing your homework, what are some red flags
20:17when we actually are researching that should stand out to us and that we should be concerned about? And I'm
20:23sure y'all have plenty of stories out in the audience, but nurse Haskins, can you tell us a
20:27little bit about what we should be looking for? And if we see it, what should stand out to us and then
20:33how to respond after the fact to that? Gotcha. I think for me, it was like, if someone's asking you
20:39for inappropriate things, like where do you live? What's your phone number? Send me pictures or asking
20:45you too many personal questions too soon. I think for me, that's a red flag. Um, and then if you see or
20:52hear, you know, people talk social media is like a big news, you know, it's a new opportunity for
20:57people to talk. And if you see that person and you know, I mean, I think I would just the two to too
21:02much too soon for me, you know, like, I want to meet you. What's your number? Where do I find you?
21:07Where do you live? Just asking too many personal questions too soon without even knowing anything
21:12about you. It's definitely a red flag that I would caution you to take. Um, no, I love that. I think that
21:18that's very like sound and standard advice that we can give people. Now we all use social media,
21:23as y'all know, for different ways, uh, in different things. Some people, they're using it to find love.
21:29Some people, they just kind of want to date around, nothing serious. Some people just use it for sex.
21:34And let's be honest, that just is what it is. And if that floats your boat, that's fine.
21:38How can we stay safe if we are just looking for sex online, especially, you know, women and men,
21:45we don't like to talk about that kind of things more women than men. But sometimes that may be
21:49all you're looking for. So what's the safest way for individuals to go about that while still
21:55obviously enjoying themselves? Cause at the end of the day, people going to do what they want to do
21:58anyway. You know what? I don't have a safe way for just sex. I feel like you're playing Russian roulette
22:04with your life. So I don't have a way to tell you to safely have sex with someone that you don't know.
22:10And I'm just being honest because I'm a licensed professional, but also I don't have a safe way
22:15to tell you to do except protect yourself. Right. But I, I just feel like you're playing
22:19Russian roulette with your life. And other than protecting yourself, I don't know of a safe way
22:25to tell you to casually have sex with someone that you don't know because you, it's, it's,
22:30I can see if we were 10, 20 years ago where people kind of did things. But nowadays,
22:35um, you hear too much about young women losing their lives and they meet people casually and
22:40things like that. I don't have a safe way to tell you to do that. And I'm just being honest.
22:45So I know it's scary because sometimes when you do know somebody, they still aren't honest.
22:50So it's challenging when you don't even know somebody and then you're adding that layer of
22:53uncertainty onto that. Now we've talked about a lot of negative things, uh, when it comes to online
22:59dating, but there also are a lot of positive things. Your sister shared that she found her husband
23:03online dating. You said that you've had several friends who have had success. So what do you think
23:07is the, uh, the most positive aspect of online dating? Because it's, it's definitely there.
23:13Yeah, absolutely. I think that you can, if you, I mean, I don't know if they still do like the
23:19personality test and things like that. If you find someone that you have a lot in common with,
23:23again, take your time with it, right? Again, like I said, I have a good friend who's on her
23:27three year anniversary trip right now with her husband and she's very open about how she met her husband.
23:34And they're happily married. So, I mean, there are positive attributes to online dating,
23:39but I would just say, make sure that person, you know, is somebody who you want to be with,
23:44I guess. Um, it's, it's, it's a little challenging because I didn't meet my husband there. So for the
23:51people who I do know, they just told me or they, you know, shared the experience that they, they took
23:55their time with it. They had a lot in common and the more that they dated, they kind of courted and
24:00dated and they were successful with it. Well, thank you so much because that definitely
24:05certainly makes a difference, especially as a licensed healthcare professional,
24:08hearing the positives and negatives of what it takes to just be successful in a relationship and
24:13safe, but also when it comes to online dating, especially since it's so relevant and prevalent
24:19in today's society, that definitely is very important. So thank you guys so much.
24:23I appreciate it. Now we have a couple of minutes left. Uh, I do want to open the floor up for
24:35question and answer. We have obviously an amazing and very smart woman here with us. That is an expert
24:40in her field. Do you guys have any specific questions? It could pertain to online dating or not
24:45just in general, just in general, maybe, uh, from a healthcare standpoint, just from a licensed
24:51professional standpoint, any questions that you may have that you want to present to her staff?
25:00Hello, everyone. My name is Tasha. Um, my question is to do with the new rule of Rosie Wade.
25:06Can you tap into, uh, a lot of this is about, uh, um, maybe, uh, other currencies or,
25:13uh, other currencies, like, how does that impact the, um, healthcare food you guys are doing?
25:19Wow. Yeah, it's kind of scary. I, I, I'm going to make sure I heard you correctly. You said with the
25:27overturning of rule versus Wade, correct? Um, that's kind of scary because you do see in, in my years
25:33and experience in healthcare, some unwanted pregnancies from rape, you know, of younger girls who are
25:39raped or molesting, um, who just, if you think about the traumatization that went behind their
25:45experience and that happened to them and then they're having to carry a child, um, as a result of it
25:52and, you know, what that does, you know, um, you, there's so much long to everything that I don't think,
25:58you know, that we, we think about, um, just the trauma behind what could happen if someone carried
26:05on once a pregnancy, um, it's, it's kind of scary for healthcare in itself, right? Um, I think for me,
26:14you know, just having a right to exercise your right, you know, to your body, what happens to you,
26:19I'm feeling like, you know, what do I do if that's stripped away, you know? So, I, I try not to,
26:25and I'll be totally honest, I try not to weigh in on political kind of things, um, because I still
26:31see and treat patients, um, but at the same time, I'm a woman, um, but I have to be honest,
26:38I think about those young girls, but for women, not necessarily young girls, I think about those
26:43people who feel like they have, you know, what if this happens to me, or what if that happens,
26:47and we can all say wouldn't, because it's the reality of the life that we live now, right?
26:52What if this happens, you know, how would you deal with it if you were healthcare provided,
26:56and this patient presented before you? So, it's almost scary, um, that you could be faced with
27:01this decision, um, but I just, it's, it's a scary thing that has happened, um, behind the doors of,
27:10you know, the political world, uh, for women in general.
27:13But I think it's going to make a big impact on how you all deal with healthcare, because I said,
27:18I think it's going to make a big impact on how you all deal with healthcare when you get those
27:22patients in, because they are going to wonder where can I go, can I get a pill, so I guess we
27:26have to wait and see what happens, but that was a really great answer. Definitely.
27:31Thank you for that question. Thank you, that was such a good question, so relevant to what we're
27:36dealing with, obviously, right now in today's society. Uh, nurses, I think you're amazing,
27:40first of all, so thank you so much again for sharing not only your expertise, but your realness
27:46of what it takes to just be very open, um, as a healthcare professional, but also as an individual
27:51and as a black woman that we sometimes are at higher risk for certain things, and then we want to make
27:57sure that we stay safe in general, and so we can have that knowledge in order to stay as safe as we can.
28:02It just makes closing your life just a little bit easier. It ain't never going easy, but that can
28:07be a little bit easier, so let's give Nurse Haskins a round of applause, y'all. Thank you.
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