00:00With a lot of black people, like churches are introductions to fashion, right?
00:06Going and seeing the women in the skirt sets and, you know, the stockings and their punks and the big hats and all that really kind of gave us or gives us this place to be prideful in our appearance.
00:20And so I think we, and me especially, learned that as a young boy, but it also gave me, being so close to my grandmother, it also gave me this appreciation for the art form of being a woman, right?
00:34Like seeing her start that process on Saturday night, you know, taking a long bath, which we could not bother her when she was taking her bath and then watching her like do her own pedicure and her own medicure and like roll her hair and lay out the clothes and, you know, the accessories so that the next morning, you know, after breakfast, we all got dressed to go to church and to start that fellowship.
00:58So it's those things and it was things that I didn't know that I was learning because I was so young, but I kept with, it kept with me and it kind of resurfaced when, when I started my journey into fashion.
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