00:00So this season, everybody's talking about this prison situation with you.
00:07They're mad at Angela, her usual. It's crazy.
00:10So what I wanted to know is specifically New York, right?
00:13When I think of everything going on in the real world of Rikers,
00:17how much of that did you study going into this season,
00:20or were you already knowledgeable about that space?
00:22She's smart.
00:23Mm-hmm. I'm okay.
00:25I was knowledgeable about the prison system within our country.
00:29There's several community outreach things that I've always gravitated to,
00:34one being that of Juvie Hall.
00:36So the years in New York and the years in L.A. combined
00:38have always been me working in Juvie Halls
00:41and working with the kids once they get out,
00:43trying to help them go forward, and so I'm still very involved in that.
00:45But in terms of being this character, I had definitely been arrested in life
00:51and spent, you know, nights, plural, in jail,
00:55but never having gone through this level of need in terms of what the character needed.
01:01Then I felt like I needed to really understand jail at its highest level.
01:04So this year, for the first time, in a method way, I was living at the jail.
01:07Wow.
01:08Yeah, we were there.
01:09Oh, my God.
01:10So it helped, because in season four, I was in that thing that the world knows too well,
01:14which is that there's a lot of people not only wrongfully in prison,
01:17but correctly in prison.
01:19And she feels that ghost, you know, piggybacking that,
01:21she feels that ghost is correctly in prison.
01:24Yeah.
01:25And for you, your character, I wanted to know in terms of, like, self-preservation as a woman,
01:29because I feel like a lot of your strife is being in love with this man
01:34versus, like, what you know is right.
01:36How much is that a factor with your character, do you feel?
01:39Hugely.
01:40I feel like, you know, when you start to fall in love with a man,
01:43there's a sort of other vulnerable self that starts to sort of unfurl out,
01:47and with that is all this sort of hope and fantasy of this life that you can live together.
01:51And he just had slowly, like, hammered away at it and hammered away at it with his lies and his revelations,
01:57and she's trying to hold on, trying to hold on.
01:59And then when Greg gets murdered and all the evidence points to him, like, it is just so shattered.
02:05Completely and utterly.
02:07Like, the level of betrayal and almost guilt of, like, I sort of knew what he was and I didn't check him,
02:13and now he killed this innocent person who's also in my world, part of my family.
02:18And so when that happens, what do you normally do?
02:22You sling that shock back in the other direction.
02:25You shut everything down.
02:27So Angela, she's an armored car, season four, and she's really trying to see straight.
02:35Because when you fall in love, you start looking things through a certain filter,
02:38and all of a sudden she's realizing, like, all of that was bullshit.
02:41You don't feel like you're on steady ground.
02:43You know, like when someone cheats on you, all of a sudden certain actions that were benign,
02:47you're suspicious of, and so she's really trying to find her equilibrium again.
02:51So people can be mad at her, but...
02:53It's self-observation in a lot of ways.
02:55Yeah.
02:56Yeah.
02:59Yeah, yeah.
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