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Bear Grylls - Wild Reckoning - Season 1 Episode 5 - Housing Headaches
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00:01The Welsh Coast.
00:03This is a place that I call home.
00:06It's rugged, wild, unforgiving at times.
00:11And out here, nature tends to strip things back to what really matters.
00:18I'm Bear Grylls.
00:19I've spent my life in the wild,
00:21testing myself against the toughest conditions on Earth.
00:26But my latest challenge is something I've never done before.
00:30Dealing with people's lives, their relationships,
00:34and their greatest conflicts.
00:36Is that supporting or is that degrading?
00:38We weren't always honest about wanting to be there.
00:41In a two-day experience, no distractions, no way out.
00:45Oh, I got you.
00:47With my hand-picked team of experts,
00:49which set physical and emotional challenges.
00:53Can their time in the wild...
00:55You're nearly there. I'm gonna die.
00:57...heal old wounds...
00:59I don't want to talk about it.
01:01...resolve differences...
01:03I do trust you.
01:05...and forge new futures.
01:07We're immensely proud of the person you are.
01:09This is Wild Reckoning.
01:12Today, I'm meeting 39-year-old Steve.
01:18He and his wife, Jenny, need to buy their first home together.
01:22But they want very different things, and it's causing conflict.
01:26It's crunch time to look at getting a property.
01:30But I want to buy it a lot cheaper than say she doesn't like the area.
01:34Well, she's got her level, and I've got my level.
01:37There's massive differences, and I'm stubborn.
01:39Yeah, nice meeting you, mate.
01:41Welcome to the Wild. Tell me your situation.
01:43So, I'm about to retire from the military after 23 years,
01:46so it's a big change in my life.
01:48Me and my wife are coming to loggerheads regarding buying a house.
01:52So, she's got her mindset of what she wants to buy,
01:55and I've got my mindset, and we just can't come to an agreement.
01:58So, we're in a quite tight timeline at the minute.
02:01Yeah.
02:02So, we need to make a decision.
02:05Steve has been in the army for most of his adult life,
02:08but is leaving to run his own business full-time.
02:12We're going to have to move out of our military housing
02:15within 90 days of when I leave,
02:18and I need somewhere close enough to run my survival company from.
02:21I'm scared of losing my freedom just going to work
02:25and paying my bills and hire a mortgage.
02:27We don't need it.
02:29Army life is all Steve and Jenny have known as a couple,
02:33so it's a big change.
02:36Me and my wife are like that,
02:38but I don't want to be a prisoner to a mortgage.
02:40It's a big decision, and it's going to be a 30-year mortgage,
02:42and we need to make the right decision for both of us.
02:45Life is so noisy,
02:47but sometimes the Wild gives you that space, doesn't it,
02:49and that stillness and that time to listen.
02:52Gives you the clarity.
02:53Yeah.
02:54A bit of fresh air.
02:55I know this.
02:56Now, together, the two of you experience this,
02:58and I really hope you find resolution here.
03:01I'm looking forward to it.
03:03Well, we'll be cheering you on.
03:04Can't wait to hear how it goes.
03:05Thank you very much.
03:06Come on.
03:07Well done, buddy.
03:10It is a huge life change for Steve coming out of the forces
03:14wherein you're told what house to live in.
03:17Suddenly, in the big, bad world, you've got to make decisions together,
03:20and also, in a relationship, you've got to make decisions
03:23that are respectful of the other person.
03:26Is it really all about the house and the size of the house and the cost of the house,
03:31or is this really masking a deeper issue for him and for both of them?
03:37I think he's got some wider things to work through than just the size of the mortgage.
03:43Steve's wife, Jenny, has agreed to spend two days with him in the wild.
03:52Living in the military property, you don't get to make it your home.
03:55You know you're not going to be there permanently,
03:58and I just like the idea that I can just make a house a home.
04:02I need a bigger property because I work from home.
04:05I run a beauty business.
04:06My job's very important to me.
04:08I love it.
04:09It's probably the only thing that I've built myself.
04:11I've worked too hard to give it up.
04:16I'm hoping what I have planned for Steve and Jenny will help them break this deadlock.
04:21We slept in worse.
04:23They'll be led by mediator Dave,
04:25an expert in helping opposing sides find a resolution.
04:29Buying a house is a big decision.
04:31For this couple, it's the first time they've had to confront this.
04:35How do they communicate?
04:36Are they listening to each other?
04:38Yes!
04:39It's crunch time.
04:40And survival guide, Naomi,
04:42who'll lead them through two challenges I've set
04:45to help them find a more equal footing.
04:50And build confidence in themselves and each other.
04:53I could never be a squirrel, me.
04:55Can they reach a compromise?
04:58Yes!
04:59Or will they remain divided?
05:09Time to bring them face to face.
05:11Sounds like you've got a decision to make.
05:13A big decision.
05:14Why don't we go and see Jenny now?
05:16Let's come to her.
05:17I've never owned a property before.
05:20I do want it to be somewhere that I love.
05:23When I picture my dream home,
05:25what I see is a log cabin in the middle of the woods with no neighbours.
05:28She wants a nice family home.
05:30Comfy sofas and cushions.
05:32Bye Jenny.
05:33Bye.
05:34Down that path there, you'll find your first task waiting for you.
05:39Thank you very much.
05:40Steve and Jenny both say this is the only issue that divides them.
05:47So I want to see how this pair handles other challenges together.
05:52Their task is to build a raft, then cross a lake and retrieve an item for tonight's camp.
05:59That will make your stay a lot more pleasant.
06:01It's attached to one of these four orange boys.
06:05But the real lesson is how are they going to make decisions together when the pressure is on.
06:15Ready? Off you go.
06:18Just let's have a little look at how we can line it up a minute.
06:24Bye, we're only little.
06:26Do we need all four?
06:28I reckon we keep a little either the boxes or this.
06:30So here's what I'm thinking.
06:32These two barrels, maybe.
06:34And then lay these on top, tie these on top.
06:36All we got to do is sit on it.
06:38Yeah?
06:39Like a little canoe boat.
06:40Yeah.
06:41Yeah?
06:42Mediator Dave is watching from the sidelines.
06:47He's taken the lead.
06:49She's up for compromise.
06:50Come here, Jenny.
06:51You got this?
06:52He sort of listens, but then cracks on, which is interesting.
06:57So let me have a little think a minute.
06:59And what we can use is the little smaller ones.
07:02So with Steve being in the military, he is used to taking charge.
07:07So we just get to work then, yeah?
07:08Yeah.
07:09Which obviously he does in everything we do.
07:11We leave this on, we'll start lashing this on.
07:13Yeah.
07:14Leave that as it is, yeah?
07:15Yep.
07:16I don't like confrontations.
07:17I give in too easy.
07:19I'll just kind of roll over, let him get his own way for an easy life.
07:24I don't want it to tip over, so are you okay if we put another one on after and then put these each side so we've got like a longer one, like to balance it?
07:31Yeah.
07:32Yeah?
07:33Yeah.
07:34Yeah, look at that.
07:35The badger.
07:36I'm always going to feel responsible, aren't I?
07:37So I always feel like I need to drive.
07:39Now with the raft built, Steve and Jenny must paddle out to the Orange Boys, one of which contains a hammock for camp.
07:52The other three are decoys.
07:54Please don't tip it, climb under.
07:55Climb under.
07:56Climb under.
07:57I am going to climb under.
07:58Holy moly.
07:59Ah!
08:00Ah!
08:01Ah!
08:02Ah!
08:03Ah!
08:04Ah!
08:05Ah!
08:06Ah!
08:07Ah!
08:08Ah!
08:09You can keep it this way.
08:10The small raft just isn't stable.
08:12Oh!
08:13Holy moly!
08:14Ah!
08:15Ah!
08:16Ah!
08:17Ah!
08:18Ah!
08:19Ah!
08:20Ah!
08:21Ah!
08:22Ah!
08:23Ah!
08:24If you go this way, like this, you go at the back, I'll go here and we'll just, can we do that?
08:29We're talking about all that.
08:30Yeah.
08:32Just tip your legs, okay?
08:33I'll paddle from the front.
08:35Ah!
08:36Let's go for that one.
08:37I can't see, you're tipping it.
08:39I'm not, I'm not going to punch it.
08:41Hold on.
08:42Ah!
08:47Ah!
08:49Come here.
08:50It just smacked me in the eye.
08:51You all right?
08:52Oh!
08:53Come on, Jenny.
08:54Come on, Jenny.
08:55It's not there.
08:56Safety is a priority.
08:58With a knock to the head, Jenny needs to be checked over.
09:02I think we both brought in it.
09:04No.
09:05I thought that's what we were just doing.
09:07That's what I was in it.
09:08Doggy paddling.
09:09No, but we tried to still go round, I don't know what happened.
09:11I think if I put my weight on the front, you just guide it from the back and don't put
09:16any weight on it and we'll be fine.
09:17Jenny's fit to carry on, but this time she's taking control.
09:18Right, I think we just go one end each and swim with it as long as we're taking it with
09:30us.
09:31She came back like a trooper and just cracked on still and she was so determined and it
09:35was good seeing that side of her.
09:36So, I'm just keeping the balance.
09:38Wait, you just balance.
09:39I'll get us that.
09:40Just be careful when you lean on it, yeah?
09:44Now, that was really interesting.
09:47After it capsized, Jenny was saying this is how we're going to do it.
09:50I'll do it.
09:51You promise you keep the balance?
09:53I'll do it.
09:54Don't do that.
09:55Sit there.
09:56Do this.
09:57She took control and he took a step back.
10:01I'm getting it.
10:02Finally, they reached the first boy.
10:05Yay.
10:06Got something on it.
10:08A stone.
10:11I hate this life.
10:14We've got to go over there.
10:17Next one.
10:18I'm not going out there.
10:20Which one is you, Jennifer?
10:21I just need a breath.
10:28Have we even gone anywhere?
10:29We're blowing back.
10:32With the wind picking up, Steve and Jenny's lightweight raft is being blown in the wrong
10:37direction.
10:38Time to bring them back in.
10:40Jenny, Steven, sadly, we are out of time and you're going to have to come back in.
10:45Oh.
10:46Meaning they've missed out on winning a hammock for their night in camp.
10:51Oh, well.
10:53It didn't quite work out for us, but I had so much fun doing it, even with the eye injury.
11:00Yeah, just had lots of fun.
11:02I think that task here showed me how resilient my wife is.
11:05I was proper proud of her.
11:06And she got scared when the log fell on her head.
11:09We never got the hammock, but I'm happy to just sleep out here with Nottingham, and so
11:12is she.
11:13And I'm really excited.
11:14It was just good just doing that together.
11:15The challenge showed that although Steve usually takes the lead, when push comes to shove, Jenny
11:26can find her voice.
11:28Let's see what we've got.
11:29With the beams across it, I'll just tap down the back.
11:32Simple.
11:33But when it comes to setting up camp, it's Steve who's in charge yet again.
11:38Yeah, let's go for it.
11:40We get on so well.
11:41We do everything together.
11:42We're like best mates.
11:44You can pretend to make an A-frame as well, you know, like a proper little tent.
11:48But it's been the first time that I've ever been afraid to bring up a subject with him,
11:53because I am a bit worried about the confrontation that it brings.
11:58So, what we can do, we'll put some cord on that, and we'll peg it out just like a lean-to.
12:03We've been looking for nine, ten months.
12:06I feel like I do have to stand my ground.
12:10Yeah, that's it.
12:12Put these barrels in the middle as well.
12:15Bit more of a roof.
12:16Inside?
12:17Yeah.
12:18To be honest, I am scared of leaving the military.
12:20I think emotionally I'm...
12:21I'm petrovised, I'm not going to lie.
12:23Yeah.
12:24It is daunting, leaving that safety net of a career and the lads, the troops you've been
12:30working with.
12:31You're happy?
12:32Yeah.
12:33And that plays a lot of pressure on me, because the pension's not going to cover all my wages,
12:38it's going to cover a few bills, and that's it.
12:40We slept in WASS.
12:42I can sleep anyway.
12:43Yeah.
12:44Yeah, if you're all happy with that.
12:45I'm surprised we got a tarp.
12:46This is luxury, so keep it simple.
12:48If I don't have the space to work from, then we're going to lose an income, so it's not
12:53going to really benefit us if we go down the route that he wants.
12:57We need to get a fire gun first.
13:01Experienced bushcrafter Steve uses a bow drill to create a spark.
13:07Yes!
13:08Yes!
13:09Yes!
13:10And Naomi teaches Jenny to forage for seaweed and Winkles to cook with their fish for supper.
13:22What about the fish there?
13:26He looks like a little caveman that's never eaten before.
13:33It's something that we need to sort out now.
13:37Steve and Jenny clearly share a close bond, as well as a passion for adventure in the outdoors.
13:45But their different ideas about the future are causing a real rift in their partnership.
13:50Hiya!
13:51Hey Dave!
13:52Hello Dave, mate.
13:53With the deadline looming, can Dave help them break the stalemate and move forward?
13:59What did you learn about each other today?
14:01After seeing her, the log fall on her head, I got a bit shocked and scared.
14:05Then just seeing her, that she was still smiling, and she was so determined.
14:09So, seeing how resilient she is, I think I probably need to listen to her a lot more, to be honest.
14:13If you come round and told me something, I'll listen.
14:15When she tells me, sometimes I'll disregard it, but if you told me the same thing, I'll take you out of ice.
14:20OK.
14:21But I witnessed today, you turned round and said to Jenny,
14:26what do you think, what do you want to do?
14:29Can you remember what you said?
14:30I probably said, I don't want you to choose or something like that.
14:33You choose, exactly.
14:34You're cool.
14:35Which is interesting, because you're saying, Steve, I need to listen more,
14:39and yet you batted it back to him and went, you're cool.
14:41Yeah.
14:42I think it's because I'm so used to, like, Steve's decision being the final one,
14:48so I don't waste my breath sometimes.
14:51OK.
14:52Yeah.
14:53OK.
14:54So what is it you can do about that?
14:57I think maybe to make more decisions for myself and put my foot down a little bit.
15:02And do you know what?
15:03They probably won't always work out and I'll get things wrong,
15:05but I think just learning to be a little bit more forceful with my decisions.
15:11I think sometimes when we're discussing it, maybe we're not as honest as we should be,
15:15because of fear of falling out over it.
15:18Do you think you've moved from where you are this morning?
15:20I still feel that we need to spend a little bit more on a house.
15:24I'm happy to it to be a small house, as long as it's got space for me to work from.
15:29I know that's a big part of her business and it's nice to hear that she is willing to negotiate and come to a happy medium.
15:38What does it feel like to hear that Steve's listened to you?
15:42I think the fact that now he's listening to me, I feel a little bit more like more of a 50-50 team.
15:48OK.
15:49Everything I do has always been for both of us.
15:52I've always worked hard.
15:53That's why I probably need to look at myself if she doesn't think it's 50-50.
15:56Until the day, me and Jenny are a team, we always have been.
15:59And I need to think about your needs a bit more as well.
16:02The more we talk about this, it's probably more my side of fear, fear of failure.
16:07That's probably what's holding me back.
16:11I just think you need to look at what you've already achieved.
16:14You've prepared so much for the future, like more than what you realise.
16:18You've got a plan. If it doesn't work out, there's other options.
16:21Like, don't put too much pressure on yourself.
16:24Steve, when you were in the military, you were the safety net.
16:27It's now sort of reversed.
16:29And now you've got the chance to support each other.
16:31What does that sound like?
16:33I like it.
16:34You like it?
16:35Yeah, I do like it.
16:37Honestly, Jenny, I'm proud of you today after seeing what you've got going through.
16:40Realising that she's done a business from nothing and she's got a successful business.
16:43She brings in the one guest, she's going to look after me.
16:46I need to stop panicking all the time.
16:48You're quite a formidable force, actually.
16:50Watching you today and listening to you today in terms of what you've achieved.
16:54I do honestly believe that you can do this.
16:57It's been a pleasure working with you.
16:58Bye.
16:59Bye.
17:06This is a conversation they've had many times.
17:08But the difference today is actually really hearing each other,
17:12really understanding what each other's needs are.
17:15And I think the fact that they've moved closer in each other's direction is all about being heard.
17:22Yesterday really helped Steve to see Jenny in a new light and to realise he's not alone as he takes the first steps into life beyond the military.
17:45Let's get all this bits ready here.
17:48But with the decision of buying their first real home together looming, can they find that common ground?
17:54Can they build a future that belongs to them both?
17:58Oh, that's the badger.
18:00We don't only have time to sit down and gather our thoughts.
18:05She just agrees with me all the time.
18:07I thought we were always 50-50, but obviously she just always takes the easy route.
18:11So I think I need to just put a bit more pressure on it and know what you want to do instead of just doing what I want to do.
18:18I think now we're in a better position to sit down and talk about, like, what do we want for our future?
18:23And maybe start the whole conversation again, like, come in from a different angle.
18:28It's a nice area, isn't it?
18:32I want to walk up that hill.
18:34My aim today is I'm not even going to sit down.
18:36I'm going to make sure Jenny has to take control.
18:39I'm not even going to come up with any ideas, unless she's having a panic attack.
18:44Are you looking forward to today?
18:45I'm apprehensive.
18:47I'm excited.
18:49I just hate not knowing what we're doing.
18:53Good morning. Good morning, Dave.
18:55Did we sleep well last night?
18:56Amazing.
18:57Very well.
18:58Great stuff.
18:59Well, looks like we've got the rain coming in.
19:00So should we get you on to your next task?
19:01Yeah, absolutely.
19:02Yeah.
19:03Let's do it.
19:04Let's go.
19:09Whatever decision that Steve and Jenny make about their new home, it has to come from a place of equality.
19:16Good morning.
19:17Good morning.
19:18But is Jenny ready to step up?
19:21And is Steve ready to let her?
19:24Come on, Jenny.
19:26Yes.
19:27So for this final task, one is going to climb a tower of crates, the other is going to climb a rope ladder.
19:33Do you mind if I have this one?
19:34You can do that.
19:35You can do that.
19:36You can do that.
19:37Each of them is going to be making a leap for their reward.
19:40But the real test here is whether Steve can let go of that control and just trust Jenny to take the lead.
19:48Are you ready?
19:49Yeah.
19:50Let's do it.
19:54Go on.
19:55So, if I pass one to you.
19:59Oh, look at that.
20:01It's going already.
20:03Just keep your foot more to the inside.
20:05Don't push it out.
20:06Don't put your weight to the outside.
20:10They started the day from where they left yesterday.
20:13And that is, he's looking to Jenny to make the decisions.
20:17Lift.
20:18Lift your knee.
20:19Two seconds.
20:20Two seconds.
20:21Go back a minute.
20:22Go back.
20:23Bit better than Jenny, wait.
20:24Go.
20:25It's not on.
20:28Here you go!
20:35It's back to square one.
20:38Jenny is getting stronger.
20:40She started off a little bit timid, but she's sticking to it.
20:43Ready?
20:44Lift.
20:45She's being confident.
20:48They're working together.
20:49OK.
20:50One, two.
20:51That's going to fall again, Jenny.
20:52No, no, no.
20:53Keep your feet in together.
20:54Keep your knees together.
20:55Just pull your knees in together.
20:56You've got collaboration and it's working.
20:58I need you to support the whole thing now.
21:00Yeah, I've got it.
21:01I'm not going to let you fall, OK?
21:03I'm going to put this on one, Jenny.
21:04Yeah.
21:06I need the support.
21:07You ready, Jenny?
21:08Yeah, I've got you.
21:12Take a big jump.
21:13OK, don't worry.
21:16One, two, three, jump!
21:21Yes!
21:22Did he get it?
21:23Yeah.
21:27I had to be assertive.
21:28Woo-hoo!
21:29Can we see what the prize is?
21:31The fact that he listened to me and we achieved what we were meant to achieve,
21:35that's just another goal for me that, you know, Stee can trust and believe in what I'm saying.
21:40Is that chocolate?
21:41Oh, happy days!
21:44Shall we have a quick energy?
21:45Yeah.
21:46A quick energy boost?
21:47I wanted Jenny to step up for this and she did.
21:49She took charge, done absolutely amazing.
21:51And it was enough support for me to jump off and grab our little win.
21:57Jenny took control in the first part of the challenge and helped Steve to victory.
22:02Now she must make the leap herself and not give up when things get tough.
22:08Absolutely hate heights, like even the smallest of heights absolutely terrifies me.
22:13It is my worst fear.
22:15Right now I'm feeling OK but I'm probably going to have a meltdown when I start to get a bit high.
22:19OK, right, so, do you think you can hold it really tight to the ground?
22:24Yeah.
22:25Like really, really tight, OK?
22:27If you let it loose, you don't run, please.
22:29Peel and toe.
22:30You won't be able to clamp it up.
22:32No, I know, I'm just trying to get past you.
22:34That's it.
22:35Then toe the next one.
22:37Something up, are you?
22:38Yeah, I can do it.
22:39I'm just scared.
22:40That's all.
22:41You're all right, you're safe.
22:42Oh, well then Jenny, you're doing really well here.
22:43So, I've got you.
22:44See, it's spinning.
22:45Can you just do it a little bit?
22:46It's not spinning a problem.
22:47Ah!
22:48We've tried to do clam before.
22:49We've tried to do treetops and she's came straight down.
22:51Oh!
22:52Oh!
22:53Oh!
22:54Oh!
22:55Oh!
22:56Oh!
22:57Oh!
22:58Oh!
22:59Oh!
23:00Oh!
23:01Oh!
23:02Oh!
23:03Oh!
23:04Puppies and kittens.
23:05That's it.
23:06Just keep locking up.
23:07Puppies and kittens.
23:08Oh!
23:09Puppies and kittens!
23:10Oh!
23:11Jenny's doing really good here.
23:12Don't speak!
23:13Puppies and kittens!
23:14Oh!
23:15Oh!
23:16This is a real test of Jenny's resolve.
23:19Oh my goodness!
23:20I could never be a squirrel, me.
23:23Will she see this through despite her fear?
23:26I don't have any slipping idea.
23:27What's this?
23:28I'm going to...
23:29I'm going to die.
23:30Argh!
23:31Steve, hold the ladder really tight.
23:33I've got it.
23:34It's not going nowhere.
23:35Argh!
23:36Take that foot out now, Jenny.
23:37Yeah, I'm trying.
23:38Put your head back under towards us and you're going to take that leap of faith.
23:42Look at the bag, Jenny.
23:43Look back, don't look at your feet.
23:44One, two, three.
23:45Jump!
23:46Oh!
23:47Yes!
23:48Yes!
23:49Yes!
23:50Yes!
23:51I got it!
23:52That was the scariest thing I've ever done in my life.
23:55Truthfully, I didn't think that she was going to jump.
23:58So to see her do that and put the faith in the ropes, it's good to see her do it.
24:02I'm proud.
24:03Yeah, I know you're scared of heights.
24:05When I saw it, I didn't think I was going to do it.
24:07I thought I was going to have my excuses.
24:08Well done.
24:09Because it's something I do.
24:10I give up so easily.
24:11Again, with giving in to see quite a lot.
24:13I give up so easily for the easier option and that's not who I want to be anymore.
24:18So to actually do that is like, I am so proud of myself.
24:23The storms make her stronger.
24:26Bear Grylls.
24:27Aw.
24:28Aw, nice.
24:29The difficult thing for me was not trying to get too involved and take leadership.
24:34Seeing her do it, she's confident.
24:36She's a strong woman and she's so resilient and I'm proud of her.
24:39I really feel after these couple of challenges that I have built a lot of my own confidence.
24:44It's been a learning curve for me and I feel like I'm going to achieve much more in my life going forward by honing on to that confidence.
24:53I have high hopes for the pair of them now.
25:00Hi Dave.
25:01Well done.
25:03Absolutely amazing.
25:04They have always been a loving, caring couple and I think it's not one idea or the other.
25:10It's about negotiating.
25:11It's about compromise.
25:13You listened and you showed exactly what you promised you were going to do.
25:18Mediation can be used anywhere.
25:20Anywhere where there's a breakdown in communication or a conflict.
25:23It's been a pleasure working with you and I wish you all the best.
25:26Aw, thanks Steve.
25:28Having a third party involved to help support them come to a resolution, that's what can crack in.
25:36Steve and Jenny's time in the Welsh wilderness has come to an end.
25:41They've had a few days at home to reflect.
25:50Now I'm meeting them for a final time.
25:53Will one of them be getting the house they wanted or have they managed to find a compromise?
26:00Nice to meet you.
26:01Hey Jenny, nice to meet you.
26:02Nice to meet you.
26:03Well done.
26:04You survived.
26:05Barely.
26:06What have you learnt through this process?
26:07What I've learnt is Jenny's a lot more resilient than what I thought.
26:10So we made a raft, flipped over, smashed it in the face and cut her eye open and she got
26:15back on and cracked on and started taking reins.
26:17So I think I need to maybe step back and let her make choices instead of me just being
26:22a sergeant major and saying we're doing this.
26:24And you're much stronger, more powerful when you're together.
26:27Definitely, yeah.
26:28I just need to trust myself a bit more and trust that I can make the decisions.
26:32Do you think that's just confidence that life sometimes drains from us?
26:38I think sometimes I do feel like I don't go with my decisions because fear of failure.
26:43But I've actually learnt that unless I try I'm not going to know and just because I failed
26:47doesn't make it a bad thing, you know.
26:49I'm a lot stronger than I thought I was.
26:51And what do you think you're going to do differently moving forward then?
26:55I think we just really enjoyed being outside, just spending that time together.
26:58And I think we kind of realised that, do you know what, a house isn't all that important.
27:02Like we love adventure, so we're not actually going to buy a house anymore.
27:06We're going to rent so that we have that freedom to move around.
27:10And actually often the solutions aren't that complicated.
27:14I felt this for you at the beginning, your love for each other is far greater than a house.
27:18Yeah, absolutely.
27:19100%.
27:20I'm happy we've come together and made the decision what we want to do now, which is best for both of us.
27:23Well I'm excited for the next stage for you guys.
27:29If I just have a little bit of faith in myself, I can achieve anything I want to achieve.
27:34I'm willing to step out of my comfort zone and agree to something that wasn't my initial plan.
27:39And it might work out being even better than what I expected.
27:43Proud of you both, thank you.
27:45Thank you very much.
27:46Good job.
27:47It's not just me and the relationship, it's both of us.
27:49For me and my wife to start being 50-50 and working as a team, I can tell you it's been absolutely amazing.
27:56Steve and Jenny came out here each wanting to like win the argument.
28:05But I think they've learned that there's no victory in just being right.
28:09The victory is about being understood.
28:11So at the end they've found a solution that brings them together and it's a fair balance for both of them as they move on in their lives.
28:41We have a good job and experience in these different generations.
28:42Wow!
28:43We are good.
28:44We are good.
28:45Our good work is to change here.
28:46It is all about your time.
28:51The Andes from the First Nations'
29:02We're good.
29:03You are good.
29:04You are good.
29:05But I hope you're good.
29:06You're good.
29:07You're good.
29:08You're good.
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