00:00Being the one who's the oldest out of everybody and actually working in 1989, the power struggle was insisting on people within the hair union to get your way to get somebody who knew about black hair.
00:19And that was something that took years to say, listen, you think you know how to deal with black hair and you don't. And that thus your hair gets fried off and no one knows what edges are. No one knows what getting in the kitchen is. Nobody knows the lingo, but also the technique. It's a specific technique to work with black hair.
00:38And I remember doing, I did a movie and Diane Carroll played my mother. And we were talking about the days of Julia in the 60s. And she said, I had to insist on a black hairdresser because there was not one black hair person in the union. And she single handedly integrated the union because she insisted, listen, I want somebody who knows how to do my hair.
01:00So it's those little steps that you have to take to make your, your mark in order to make change. And now we have black, you know, plenty of black hairstylists in the union, but it took her to say, I refuse and I insist. And she got her way. So the struggle still goes on.
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