00:00Yeah, I was in Sicily and I had this nightmare of this man in my room.
00:05He approached the foot of my bed and I woke up screaming and he was a bald man.
00:10And that's important for the story because, yeah, John Grice...
00:15This was another actor from our show.
00:17This was when you guys were filming.
00:19The hotel used to be a club.
00:20And then I heard him...
00:21I didn't tell anyone.
00:22And then I heard him like a week later being like, oh, I had a nice...
00:25It was a nightmare where there was this like...
00:26There was this like...
00:27Old man in my room.
00:28We would push the foot of my bed and like grab my leg.
00:30And I was like, the same thing happened to me.
00:32So that's actually like confirmed a ghost.
00:35Will you tell me when you started getting the idea of...
00:40For this movie.
00:41And I did read in your director's notes that you mentioned...
00:45Kind of going down a rabbit hole about like different...
00:48Like the Hotel Cecil.
00:50Disappearance and stuff like that.
00:51And that was something that was recognizable to me instantly in your searches.
00:55But...
00:56Yeah.
00:57It was...
00:58I went down the creepypasta rabbit hole.
00:59And...
01:00Can you explain to people who don't know about creepypasta?
01:04Yeah.
01:05It's just...
01:05Online forums.
01:06Someone posts a story that you don't know if it's true or not.
01:10Yeah.
01:11And then people...
01:12Then it turns into a thread.
01:14And then it becomes like...
01:15It's like an online urban legend.
01:16And then...
01:17Some...
01:18It's like an online urban legend.
01:19And then...
01:20Some...
01:20Sometimes it's based on...
01:21An actual event.
01:22And then people are...
01:23Uh...
01:24Absolutely.
01:25So...
01:25debating whether or not there was a paranormal aspect to it.
01:30Like Eliza Lam in the Siso Hotel, where she...
01:35I ended up in the water tank, and we don't...
01:38People were saying, like...
01:40People were saying, like, oh, I used to work there, and that water tank was locked, right?
01:44And then stuff...
01:45And I don't know.
01:46And then I...
01:47So I get scared when I read these things.
01:50And so I figured in a movie, it would...
01:55You could probably play with that, and it would be a scary movie.
01:58And then how did you come up with the concept?
02:00For the way you were going to tell the story.
02:02Yeah, it started off as a radio play.
02:04So it was a...
02:05It was going to be a found footage audio experience.
02:10And then I asked myself...
02:15What would...
02:16What Evie would do in between recording.
02:19And then...
02:20I came up with that...
02:21Well...
02:22It's a long story, but...
02:23It's...
02:24I came up...
02:25I came up with a story parallel to the recordings going...
02:30Hopping back and forth and...
02:32And then...
02:33Undertom.
02:34And then how did you find...
02:35How did...
02:35Did you cast Nina?
02:36What was the...
02:37Well, we offered Nina because it was a...
02:40Our...
02:40Our producer...
02:41Oh, offer only!
02:42Only offers from now on.
02:45Cody worked with Nina and recommended her.
02:49And then when we...
02:50When we met...
02:51We knew.
02:52Because we saw a sign.
02:53Or I saw a big sign.
02:55Yeah.
02:56There was a...
02:57There was a...
02:58I wrote the movie...
02:59About my experience...
03:00Caregiving...
03:01My mom.
03:02And I brought her...
03:03Uh...
03:04Uh...
03:05Uh...
03:06When I brought her to the hospital...
03:07She was wearing...
03:08She was wearing one piece of jewelry...
03:09Which is like a...
03:10Uh...
03:10A plain pinky ring...
03:11And...
03:12Uh...
03:13And...
03:14Uh...
03:15It was the last piece of jewelry she ever wore.
03:15Now all I see with Nina is like...
03:17Just one piece of jewelry is a pinky ring.
03:19And I took that...
03:20Instead of the sign...
03:21I was like...
03:22Oh...
03:23Well now I have other ones for the day...
03:24But...
03:25Normal...
03:25Normally this is the only thing I wear.
03:27So that I...
03:28Five years ago today is when I took her...
03:30To...
03:31Took my mom to the hospital.
03:32And one year ago today is when...
03:35I met Nina.
03:36Yeah.
03:37What was your...
03:38Did you say yes right away?
03:40Yeah.
03:40Or did you have...
03:41And are you easily scared?
03:43Like...
03:44No.
03:45I'm not that easily...
03:45Scared.
03:46Depends.
03:47It depends.
03:48Like...
03:49This type of movie does scare me.
03:50Um...
03:50It's more psychological.
03:51But I...
03:52Read it...
03:53Alone on a Friday night.
03:54Exactly...
03:55A year ago.
03:56Mm-hmm.
03:57Or would it be...
03:58A year ago yesterday?
03:59No.
04:00Today is...
04:00When you read it...
04:01And then the next day is when I...
04:02Tomorrow is when we did the Zoom.
04:04But when...
04:05When I brought my mom to the hospital it was...
04:06It was like...
04:07Two days.
04:08Because I was...
04:09I brought her...
04:10In...
04:10On the 24th?
04:11On the 24th.
04:12And then I stayed with her the whole night.
04:14And then the next...
04:15Next day.
04:16So it was like...
04:17Uh...
04:18So now when we do the premiere it's the same thing.
04:20Now it's like...
04:21I'm going into the 25th.
04:23Which is when I met you.
04:24The 25th.
04:25Wow.
04:26Which is also Steven Shiner's birthday.
04:29I was...
04:30I was really...
04:31Creeped out by the script.
04:33Um...
04:34And...
04:35There's something...
04:35Talking about...
04:36Uh...
04:37A claustrophobia of not leaving...
04:38The character...
04:39Or...
04:40The environment.
04:41That was very unsettling to me.
04:44Um...
04:46It like puts you in a situation where...
04:48Like looking around and thinking...
04:50Maybe...
04:51Something's gonna happen to you.
04:52Or...
04:53Staying with someone...
04:54The whole time.
04:55And staying in one place the whole time.
04:56Just really...
04:57Uh...
04:58Makes me feel...
04:59Like tension.
05:00Is rising in my body.
05:01And I...
05:02Really...
05:03I loved it.
05:04It's so...
05:05It was so...
05:05Good.
05:06Even...
05:07Even reading it like...
05:08The first time.
05:09Mm-hmm.
05:10So were you...
05:10Are you...
05:11Are you not scared of that kind of stuff anymore?
05:13This...
05:14I like being scared...
05:15I'm scared of it sometimes.
05:16But sometimes I don't.
05:17Depends.
05:18Adam, what's your level?
05:20Of comfort with like...
05:22Scary stuff.
05:23Paranormal.
05:24Et cetera.
05:25Like in movie form?
05:25Or in real life form?
05:26Because real life form...
05:27I'm like...
05:28No.
05:29I'm not gonna like...
05:30Enter an abandoned building.
05:30Or whatever.
05:31I'm just like...
05:32Always err on the side of caution there.
05:33But like...
05:34I'd love to...
05:35To explore a fictionalized version...
05:37You know...
05:38From the safety of...
05:39A movie theater or my couch.
05:40Yeah.
05:40Are you often like...
05:41In a situation where you might...
05:42Enter an abandoned building?
05:43Often.
05:44Yeah.
05:45It's been happening a lot.
05:45A lot more lately.
05:46For some reason.
05:47As you get older.
05:48Yeah.
05:49Half.
05:50Exactly.
05:51So...
05:52And you...
05:53Because you're not...
05:54How did you film this?
05:55Like were you...
05:55Doing...
05:56Voice over?
05:57Were you like...
05:58Yeah.
05:59We had two days on...
06:00Set.
06:01I say set.
06:02But it was Ian's house.
06:03Um...
06:04By the way.
06:05I didn't know we were supposed to take our shoes...
06:05off.
06:06No, no, no.
06:07We weren't supposed to.
06:08No.
06:09We weren't supposed to.
06:10I was in his childhood bedroom and we had a live...
06:12Um...
06:13I had a live monitor to see Nina.
06:15But she couldn't see me.
06:16Uh...
06:17Which was kind of fun.
06:18And...
06:19Not in a weird way.
06:20Uh...
06:21But...
06:22Uh...
06:23We just...
06:24We were able to kind of ad-lib and improvise that way.
06:25Which was really nice.
06:25And then I had a couple days in a...
06:27In a booth.
06:28Sound booth alone.
06:29Just to get picked.
06:30And just go through the whole thing from top to bottom a couple of times.
06:33And...
06:34Yeah.
06:35It was really cool.
06:35It was really cool to do it on location.
06:36I felt like it added a lot.
06:38And...
06:39Yeah.
06:40Were you...
06:41Because you mentioned like the tension rising and on you.
06:45Were you...
06:45Do you mean that when you were reading the script?
06:47Or that's what you were feeling when you were making the movie?
06:50No.
06:50I think I wouldn't be able to have the freedom of doing a scene if I was...
06:55Not well.
06:56Like...
06:57You know...
06:58Emotionally.
06:59So I didn't feel that way while we were making it.
07:00But I did feel that way when I read it.
07:02And then when I watched it for the first time.
07:04Uh...
07:05There were moments where I started to get a little...
07:07Like...
07:08It wasn't creeped out.
07:09It was just...
07:10Emotionally.
07:10Uh...
07:11Exhausted.
07:12But it was such a small space that...
07:14We could just...
07:15They were like, hey, we have to go do something.
07:16I'm like, okay.
07:17I'm going into my...
07:18Safety...
07:19Room.
07:20Which is the...
07:20Room where you had your first paranormal.
07:21Yeah.
07:22I had my first paranormal.
07:23And that was your safety room.
07:24What was your...
07:25What was the...
07:25Normal experience?
07:26The radio.
07:27I...
07:28It was the radio.
07:29The radio turned on by itself.
07:30Uh...
07:31What...
07:32I was like lying...
07:33I woke up in the middle of the night.
07:34Couldn't go back to sleep.
07:35Uh...
07:36And usually I'm...
07:37I'm thinking about...
07:38I'm thinking like...
07:39I was like...
07:40When I was a...
07:40Kid...
07:41I was always thinking...
07:42I hope I don't see a ghost.
07:44And then the...
07:45The radio just turned on full blast.
07:47Playing...
07:48Don't worry.
07:49Be happy.
07:50And then...
07:51That was...
07:52And then I ran into my parents' room.
07:53That was...
07:54That was...
07:55That was...
07:55That was the first thing that happened in my house.
07:58Then other things happened.
07:59Did you feel any...
08:00Anything when you were in there?
08:01Um...
08:02No.
08:03It was a different vibe when I was in...
08:05There...
08:06To be honest.
08:07And like...
08:08I think...
08:09You can either...
08:10Uh...
08:11Be...
08:10Be open to that...
08:11When it's a situation where you...
08:13Can be...
08:14Like...
08:15When you have the capacity.
08:16And then sometimes you just don't.
08:18And you're like...
08:19I just need to...
08:20Take care of myself.
08:21So that I can go...
08:22And do more.
08:23And then...
08:24You know...
08:25Like...
08:26I need to be able to go somewhere...
08:27Safe.
08:28Remember you told me about...
08:29I had my first...
08:30And I was like...
08:31I can't...
08:30Like...
08:31I was like...
08:32Don't count it.
08:33I remember...
08:34And you left.
08:35You got the...
08:36You were like...
08:37You were like...
08:38No, I'm not gonna talk about this.
08:35Right now.
08:36Because I was like...
08:37I can't.
08:38Like...
08:39I'm not...
08:40Physically able to take in...
08:40Um...
08:41That level...
08:42Of...
08:43Um...
08:44I just need to be like...
08:45Grounded right now.
08:45And...
08:46Focus on...
08:47Rest when I'm in this space.
08:50So that I can...
08:51Keep going every day.
08:53Have either of you...
08:54Either since...
08:55Taking the movie...
08:56Or just in general...
08:57Had...
08:58Ghost sightings...
08:59Paranormal...
09:00Anything...
09:01Yeah.
09:02I was saying earlier...
09:03That I have seen a ghost...
09:04In fact...
09:05I have...
09:05A ghost...
09:06And I can...
09:07It's true...
09:08And I can tell...
09:09It actually happened because...
09:10I was staying in this hotel
09:12and
09:12yeah it was in
09:15Sicily and there was
09:16I had a nightmare of
09:17this like
09:17man in my room
09:19who like
09:19a trope
09:20approached the foot of my bed
09:21and I woke up screaming
09:23and he was a bald man
09:24and that's important
09:25for the story
09:25because
09:26yeah
09:26John
09:27John Gray
09:28is another actor
09:29from
09:29I
09:30this was when you guys
09:31were filming
09:31season two
09:32yeah
09:32we were in like
09:33the hotel used to be a convent
09:34and then I heard
09:34him
09:35I didn't tell anyone
09:35and then I heard
09:36him
09:37like a week later
09:38being like
09:38I had a nightmare
09:39where this is
09:39like
09:40there's this like
09:41old man in my room
09:42who approached the foot of my bed
09:43and like grabbed my legs
09:44and I was like
09:44the same thing
09:45happened to me
09:45so that's actually like
09:46confirmed a ghost
09:48this is gonna
09:48this is gonna
09:50you're gonna be interested
09:50in this
09:51Nina
09:52what did I ask you
09:52what
09:53you know
09:55what would you do
09:55for this role
09:56in the sci-fi horror
09:57remember I asked you
09:58would you
10:00yes
10:00what
10:00shave my head
10:01would you shave your head
10:02I wrote
10:03I wrote a scene
10:05I'm writing a sci-fi horror
10:08and I had
10:10Nina in mind
10:10through this scene
10:12where
10:13hmm
10:15your head is shaved
10:16and
10:17a ghost
10:19or
10:20something
10:21approaches
10:22the foot of your bed
10:23and
10:24you
10:24and
10:25the thing
10:25is
10:26just smiling
10:28and
10:29uh
10:30and
10:31you could hear laughter
10:32but it's not coming
10:32from that
10:33that thing
10:33you
10:35was
10:35was your guy smiling
10:36don't answer that question
10:38I
10:39no I think
10:39he
10:40was kind of like
10:40annoyed that I could like see him
10:42like he was kind of pissed off
10:43yeah
10:44did
10:45did you guys
10:45then did you guys tell more people
10:46after he said that
10:47yes
10:48like is that a thing where it's like
10:49you have to tell HBO
10:50like
10:50we are being haunted
10:51just an FYI
10:52just
10:53you know
10:53I do want to stay
10:54in the
10:55Four Seasons
10:55but there is a ghost here
10:57yeah
10:58yeah
11:00Four Seasons
11:00to sleep
11:01did you
11:01well
11:02did you say yes
11:02to being open to shaving your head
11:04I did
11:05I did
11:05yeah
11:05well
11:06I'll get you to
11:07you can touch my head
11:09later
11:09but he's
11:10good shape
11:11yeah
11:11shape
11:12wow
11:13and it really worked out well for him
11:14a stone
11:14oh right
11:15so
11:16Natalie Portman's shaved head
11:18is a
11:19band that I
11:19listened to
11:20oh
11:21that's a good legacy
11:22um
11:23okay we have
11:24a
11:24couple questions
11:25I'm asking everyone who comes in
11:27did
11:28did anyone here
11:29have
11:29a good
11:30job
11:31backup plan
11:32if Hollywood
11:34didn't work
11:34work out
11:34or like
11:35do you still
11:36what would you do
11:37my degree is in
11:39international relations
11:40so maybe like public policy
11:43but
11:44that's
11:44I don't know anything
11:45now
11:46that was years ago
11:47I didn't have
11:49it
11:49one so
11:49I had to make it
11:51so
11:52that's what I kept
11:54telling myself
11:55if this doesn't work
11:56I had no plan
11:58after that
11:59yeah
12:00I
12:00I
12:01dropped out of
12:02university
12:03um
12:04and then I
12:04I
12:04studied acting
12:04I
12:05I gave myself
12:05like I guess
12:0610 years
12:07to
12:07what happened
12:08on year 10
12:09you
12:092020
12:11pandemic
12:11so I'm like
12:12myself
12:12one or two more years
12:13extra
12:14because they
12:14love this
12:15yeah
12:15and then
12:16what were you
12:17did you have a major
12:18before
12:18I
12:19I
12:19I
12:19was doing like
12:19life sciences
12:20I didn't really enjoy
12:22the only thing I liked
12:22was like psychology
12:23and like
12:24I guess that kind of applies
12:25to acting a little bit
12:26maybe yeah
12:27maybe something
12:27in
12:28in
12:28it's like
12:29f***ing
12:29psychology or social work
12:30or something
12:30yeah
12:31okay
12:31um
12:32okay
12:33and another question
12:33I've been asking
12:34everyone
12:34although
12:35I asked it to
12:36Charlie XCX yesterday
12:37and she told me
12:38that this question is out
12:39which is
12:39what are your ins and outs
12:41for 2026
12:41her answer was
12:42ins and outs
12:43um
12:44but I'm gonna keep going
12:45with the question
12:45I'm gonna power through
12:46even though
12:47don't
12:48don't
12:49don't
12:49but what
12:51for you guys
12:51like what do you stick up
12:52like what
12:53what
12:54what are you done with
12:54this year
12:55what are you trying
12:56to get more of
12:57hmm
12:59what's
13:03what's
13:03I don't
13:04I don't like
13:04saying anything's out
13:05you gotta
13:06you know
13:06exclude anyone
13:07if they're
13:08if they're
13:08innocent
13:09but I think
13:10you know
13:10because of like
13:11you know
13:11I'm Canadian
13:12and I've always been
13:13into hockey
13:14but now with like
13:15he had rivalry
13:15I think hockey
13:16is like very in
13:17and I think
13:18you know
13:18you know
13:19wasn't
13:20inside out
13:20too
13:21wasn't
13:21I didn't see it
13:22but wasn't she
13:22like a hockey
13:23player
13:23do you have
13:24it
13:24do you have
13:24it
13:24do you have
13:24it
13:24do you have
13:24it
13:24a team
13:24hockey
13:24is
13:25my team
13:26trying to make
13:27the Leafs
13:27okay
13:27unfortunately
13:29yeah
13:29what about you
13:30um
13:34being
13:35somewhere
13:36uh
13:37in real life
13:39as opposed to
13:40online
13:40online's out
13:42yeah
13:42life is
13:43how
13:43don't want to do
13:44that
13:44just the internet
13:44yeah
13:45yeah
13:46that's a good way
13:47yeah
13:47if that happens
13:49it might
13:50more presence
13:51yeah
13:51I definitely
13:54I definitely
13:54think that indie
13:55film is in
13:55now
13:56it's
13:57then
13:57A24 is in
13:59you
13:59the 90s
14:00now you're
14:01fishing
14:01yeah
14:04yeah
14:04out
14:05I don't know
14:05I mean
14:05Hollywood film
14:06is still
14:06gonna be
14:07yeah
14:07I'm like
14:09like Adam
14:10nothing out
14:11yeah
14:12let's try and be nice
14:14but it's also okay
14:14to play this hard
14:15internet
14:15or phones
14:16or
14:16right
14:17yeah
14:19that's fair
14:20I like
14:20the hockey
14:21that one's a good one
14:22yeah
14:22the Toronto Maple Leafs
14:24my
14:24might be out
14:24I don't know
14:25are they
14:25you're talking about your reaction
14:27unfortunately
14:27since 1953
14:28yeah
14:29it's okay
14:29that's okay
14:29that's okay
14:34you
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