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Here’s a candid moment with Sanam Saeed from today’s episode.
Host: Hassan Choudary
Guest: Sanam Saeed
A brand-new celebrity talk show with a twist — Buzz is where real conversations happen! Join Hassan Choudary as he sits down with your favorite stars for engaging, unfiltered, and fun-filled discussions.
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00:00ڈیریکٹر میسم نکوی کے ساتھ
00:30کہ کفیل کو اپنے کندوں پر لے کے چل رہی ہیں
00:31آپ ان کے کام کو بہت پسند کر رہے ہیں
00:33ہمیشہ ہی ان کے کام کو بہت پسند کرتے ہیں
00:35I am talking about none other than
00:37سنم سعید
01:00پیٹا میں چاہتا ہوں کہ
01:02تم
01:04چامی سے خلا لے لہا
01:06ہاتھ
01:08انجھے ہوئے ریشو میں
01:09فسا بیٹھے ہیں
01:10اب بدا
01:12کون سے دھاگے کو جدا
01:15کس سے کرے
01:16خواتینوں اس رات
01:24اس وقت میں ساتھ
01:25جو ادھاکارہ موجود ہیں
01:27she is one of my
01:28favorite actresses
01:30اور اس میں کوئی شک کی بات نہیں ہے
01:32کہ جب پاکستان میں
01:33ادھاکاراؤں کی بات ہوتی ہے
01:35تو she is one of the best actresses
01:37that we have in the country
01:39سنم سعید
01:40اس سے زیادہ دیکھیں
01:42کچھ گنجائش ہی نہیں
01:43بچی کہنے کی
01:44آپ مانتی ہیں میری بات
01:46سے agree کرتے ہیں
01:47آپ نہیں کرتے ہیں
01:48اس بات سے تو agree کرتے ہیں
01:49کہ آپ میری
01:50آپ میری favorite ادا کر رہے ہیں
01:51اور اس بات سے بھی
01:52کہ آپ you are one of the
01:53top actresses
01:54کتنا دیکھیں
01:56اکٹم embarrassed ہوگی
01:57کیا ہوں
01:57تو چونکہ اس وقت
02:00ہم کفیل کے سیٹ پہ موجود ہیں
02:02پورا پاکستان اے کی
02:03سوال کا جواب جاننا چاہتا ہے
02:05کہ زیبہ کیوں
02:06جامی کے ساتھ
02:09اپنا رشتہ
02:10قائم
02:10اور یا برقرار
02:11رکھنے پہ
02:12رضا مند ہے
02:13کیوں وہ
02:14اس situation سے
02:15باہر نہیں آجاتی
02:16جلدی کیا
02:17دیکھ کے پتہ چلے گا
02:18ہاں
02:18جلدی کیا
02:19نہیں میں اندازہ ہوگا
02:20ہم نے شروع میں
02:20ٹیزرز دیکھ لیا ہے
02:21ہمیں پتہ ہے
02:22کہ زیبہ جامی کے ساتھ
02:23ہی رہی
02:23تو آپ آہستہ آہستہ
02:24اور دیکھیں
02:24تو آپ کو
02:25سمجھ آئے گی
02:25کہ کیوں
02:26ایک تو
02:27آمیرہ جی
02:27جو سکرپسا
02:28very close to reality
02:29گینے چونے
02:30خواتینے
02:31جنہیں آپ
02:31سب جانتے ہیں
02:32ہوں
02:32actually
02:33make
02:33take the huge
02:34step
02:35اور وہ
02:35بالکلی
02:36اپنی
02:36life کو
02:37change کر دیتی
02:38اور وہ
02:38پہلا قدم
02:39اٹھاتی ہیں
02:39کہ نہیں
02:39میں توڑوں گی
02:40اس سسٹم کو
02:41اس سائیکل کو
02:42ہمت
02:43گیدر کر کے
02:44وہ لوگ
02:45کہیں بھی
02:45کسی طرح سے
02:46اپنے
02:47بچوں کو
02:47یا اپنے
02:48آپ
02:48یا جو بھی
02:48ایک situation سے
02:49اپنے آپ کو
02:50extract کر دیتی ہیں
02:51but
02:5195%
02:53of the time
02:54the woman
02:54stays in a
02:55relationship
02:56because of
02:57her children
02:57or her
02:58financial situation
02:59or society
03:00اور جو بھی
03:01ہزاروں مسئلے
03:02ہوتے ہیں
03:02ہزاروں
03:03ریزن
03:03تو
03:04امیرہ جی
03:05کیسکرپس
03:05are very
03:05close to
03:06reality
03:06تو ہم
03:07بالکلی
03:08real life
03:08کا
03:08situation
03:10آپ کو
03:10دکھارے ہیں
03:11جس میں
03:11already
03:12there's a
03:12message
03:12already
03:13from the
03:13first
03:1310
03:14episodes
03:14جو
03:14آپ
03:14دیکھ
03:14تھے
03:15the
03:15conversation
03:16has
03:16started
03:16کہ
03:17یہ
03:18message
03:18یہ
03:18اس طرح
03:19کا
03:19topic
03:19دکھانا
03:20بہت
03:20ضروری
03:20ہے
03:20it's
03:21an
03:21eye
03:21opener
03:21یہ
03:22صرف
03:2290's
03:23کی
03:23کہانی
03:23نہیں
03:24آج
03:24کل
03:24کے
03:24دور
03:24میں
03:24بہت
03:25پیرنٹس
03:25ہیں
03:25جو
03:26بچوں
03:26کے
03:26رشتے
03:26فلان
03:27کزن
03:27یا
03:27فلان
03:27پھپو
03:28کے
03:28بیٹے
03:28سے
03:28بھانجا
03:29اچھا
03:29ہوگا
03:30بیٹا
03:30اچھا
03:30ہوگا
03:30بھائی
03:31اچھا
03:31ہوگا
03:31مجھے
03:32ہوگا
03:32ہوگا
03:33مجھے
03:33کل
03:33بیوی
03:34سابیت
03:34ہوگی
03:34یہ
03:35ünf
03:35کن
03:36بچپن
03:37کی
03:37اچھا
03:38ہوگی
03:38ہوتا ہے
03:39ہاں
03:40میری
03:40دوست
03:41ہمیں
03:41بہت
03:41ہے
03:41جس طرح
03:42فرحان
03:42اور
03:42یاسمین
03:43کا
03:43ہوگیا
03:43بیٹیو
03:44دوستوں
03:45کے
03:45بچے
03:46رشتہ
03:46ہوگا
03:47ہے
03:47تو
03:48یہ
03:48a good message. So we've already shown something very realistic that happens and it apparently
03:52when I was reading comments, this drama should have a trigger warning. Because a lot of people
03:57were relating to it, a lot of people were being affected by it. So those same people
04:02either you can bring in the world where the woman does get out immediately, like Kashif
04:09said, open it and said, okay, I'm ready. So I think we're just sticking to what is realistic
04:17and what happens commonly. But you go ahead and see what, who, there is the silver lining.
04:25Do you think that from the end of the viewers?
04:28Look, he left it and the drama is finished. When the Zharoun Kashyaf meets the first time
04:32the drama is finished. That means the story doesn't have to be further.
04:36What's the reason? It's because of Kashif. Because you have Kashif played, Sanam has,
04:40so if she plays another person who is in the real world.
04:43It's not a lot of women, just because she needs more strength.
04:47Really?
04:48What does it mean? Really?
04:51To stay in a loveless marriage, you need guts also.
04:56But this is the question, why? When the father is saying it, the mother is saying it,
05:00there is a support system. You know, people hate Yasmeen's character,
05:04who is the mother. Because she is actually an example of the failure of the system.
05:10Of how she has been influenced. The woman is good. The woman is good. The woman is good.
05:14She is naive. And so obviously, jaded by society. She thinks that race means amazing.
05:22Shadi means the epitome of life. She is obsessed. Like all women in Pakistan. Everyone in Pakistan is obsessed with Shadi.
05:32So she is, she highlights the problem in society. Her character.
05:38That effect has been trickle down in her daughter. So her daughter also has a trickle down effect of society.
05:43So to think in that era also, to take a divorce.
05:47Do you feel sort of an additional pressure when you take on a character? Because the audience is in a very different light.
05:54I feel like she sees that if she wants to be an emancipated woman, it has to be an emancipated woman from the get-go.
06:00I understand where you come from and what you talk about.
06:03An emancipated woman is not born emancipated. Her surroundings and situations and experiences make her, allow her to be.
06:12But one could argue that Kashyap was born emancipated.
06:14You think so?
06:15I would like to believe so.
06:17I don't think she would marry Zaroon if that was the case.
06:19But love makes you do silly things. But I thought she was weak. I think that was her weakness to fall.
06:25Yes, that's one weakness. But she was emancipated.
06:28But how was her mother?
06:30What did she say to her mother?
06:32The thing is wrong with her mother.
06:34The best of the best men mostly are made because there was a good mother behind him.
06:39All the men who are married and the good men are married and the good men are married.
06:44I strongly agree.
06:45Trace any of your friends, relatives, anything back to whatever.
06:48What was the issue of her mother? It was no issue of her mother.
06:51When I was married, I would say, how would she be married with her mother?
06:56The most chances are, it will be good.
06:58If there is a lot of love, or if the mother is not in the picture, or if she was leaving,
07:03then there will be issues.
07:04So, Samina Pirzada's character in that was phenomenal.
07:08Yeah.
07:09That's why she had an emancipated daughter.
07:11Yasmin's character in this, Munazza Apaz, is just so annoying and frustrating.
07:16Like, she is the villain in the story, you know.
07:19Everyone hates that character because she is exactly the mirror to society
07:23that these auntyas do.
07:25I mean, is there anything else in marriage and money in life?
07:28I was watching some comments.
07:30In the last week's episode, that was a beautiful dialogue.
07:32It was written in one roomal.
07:35That's it.
07:36In the late 90s.
07:37So, it was also like…
07:38And in the late 90s, it was also like…
07:39And in the late 90s, it was also like…
07:40If parents get wind of their daughter's date,
07:43or a girl's interest,
07:45then the first relationship that comes comes,
07:48they give them.
07:49For me, this was also interesting in a way,
07:52because I saw that the younger audience of our drama,
07:55they said, where is this?
07:56I said, why is this not happening?
07:58It was a lot in the 90s.
08:00It was a lot, but there are people who are arguing that
08:02if you don't talk about that at that time,
08:04then it's happening today too.
08:06And across social statuses,
08:08not just that in one strata.
08:10Yes.
08:11And they're saying,
08:12think that a girl from a secure, supported, loving family
08:15is happening with her.
08:16So, can you imagine,
08:17who doesn't have that support system,
08:19who doesn't have the brothers,
08:20who doesn't have the mother,
08:21who doesn't have the mother.
08:22So, it's a universal story,
08:24very relevant to our society.
08:26As far as me being,
08:28feeling that
08:30when I read the script,
08:32I feel like I should do this.
08:33So, I have read the script.
08:35I know the trajectory and the arc.
08:39So, who are sitting on the sofa,
08:41they're holding their horses, right?
08:42It's obvious that they always get up.
08:43They always get up.
08:44They always get up.
08:45They won't get up.
08:47But it's also important,
08:48the means to an end.
08:49I always say.
08:50The means to an end is also important.
08:52How do we reach A to B?
08:54Let's reach B.
08:55Let's reach B.
08:56Let's reach B.
08:57Let's reach B.
08:58Let's reach B.
08:59But now,
09:00you're saying that
09:01they're going to take a divorce.
09:02I think,
09:03I feel like,
09:04it's not just those people who review content,
09:07but the viewer also.
09:08The viewer also.
09:09The viewer,
09:10who has a sense of urgency.
09:11Yes.
09:12They want to know the end.
09:13What's going to happen next?
09:15Not the end.
09:16But they want to know the end.
09:17What's going to happen next?
09:18Not the end.
09:19They want to know the end.
09:20What's going to happen next?
09:21Not the end.
09:22Not the end.
09:23They want to know the end.
09:24You don't think that they're going to be like this?
09:26If it's like this,
09:27then what's going to happen next?
09:28No, right?
09:29Yes.
09:30If it's not in the world,
09:31then what's going to happen next?
09:32Because drama is a depiction of reality.
09:33What made you say yes to Zeba?
09:37What made me say yes to Zeba?
09:39The story,
09:40the character,
09:41her journey.
09:42Overall,
09:43the story of the story was very good.
09:45We talked about adversity,
09:46a orphel...
09:47kifalat...
09:48provider,
09:49sustainer.
09:50Not only financially,
09:51but emotionally also...
09:52in a supportive way,
09:53Anyway,
09:54Maybe if...
09:55...or whether...
09:56the girl's or lady...
09:58One woman must have to do a encima.
10:01If she doesn't try one...
10:02What is the effect that has on the other spouse?
10:05And the family?
10:07You don't come from that school that is what she claims to do to tribal children?
10:11It does not matter.
10:12Everyone has a place...
10:13If you have a house, you have a carpenter, a mystery, a plumbing, you have to do this.
10:18In a marriage, you have to do this, one's work, one's work, and then in harmony, you have to grow up in harmony.
10:24Now, you have to decide who wants to earn, who wants to make a house, that's up to the couple.
10:31But yes, one needs to, and obviously because the woman bears children and has to take care of children,
10:36That's the problem.
10:38Exactly.
10:39So, the point is that two people have to make a happy home run to make a home run.
10:45So, I like the concept and the idea that the word, the field, the meaning, and it's so relevant and so important.
10:54And then the whole story is so realistic.
10:57This is not the case of every house.
10:59Almost every house has a problem that no one is going to eat.
11:03Or just the one is going to eat and the other is going to be sitting in free.
11:07And the tension that builds.
11:09And in today's life, you can't live off a one person's salary.
11:12Two people, three people, everyone needs to work to keep it going.
11:16So, the idea, the story, the team, I've done theatre with Meesam at Napa.
11:23I love everyone from Napa.
11:24I think they've got a great sense of script analyze them, they have to work with actors, all of the actors.
11:31And in between the lines, nuances, I blindly trust Saqib, Fawad, Meesam, and who is Napa?
11:39Napa, who are the rest of the others.
11:41There are a lot of people.
11:42And Umaira Ji's script.
11:44And the amount of people that I've seen, I've seen Ms. Mariya Kyuuk, who had a lot of fun.
11:51Curly balls, sari, I've become a character.
11:54I wasn't Sanam for a second.
11:56I had so much fun.
11:58I had 30 days of work, I had 30 days of work, I had a screen time with him.
12:03It was bad that people had a lot of fun.
12:05It was bad that you had a lot of fun.
12:07No, it wasn't bad, but it was so much fun.
12:10I had to say, wait a second, bhai, sari.
12:12You've decided to decode what's wrong?
12:14Why do you have a lot of fun?
12:16That you have the main leads, why do you have a small role?
12:20Maybe it's a small role, but there wasn't a lot of fun.
12:22It means that there wasn't a lot of fun.
12:24But I had fun.
12:26I had seven years later on TV.
12:28They don't want to have a choice for our favourite actor.
12:31Yes, they don't want to do it.
12:33I didn't want to have a big voice on TV.
12:35It's a great job.
12:37When you're back as Zeba on screen, everybody's like,
12:40Okay, now Sanam Seydin.
12:41But I needed to test the waters.
12:44Look, I'm spoiled by working in films and series.
12:47It's a different world.
12:50There's a different protocol.
12:51Did you feel at home?
12:52Ayashi, everything.
12:54I did, but I was like, back to the grind at home.
12:57So, Ms.Maria, 32 days was perfect for me to understand what the system is, what the timing is, what the food is, what the hours is.
13:08I mean, the whole thing, the beast that we have to face, it's like, okay, okay.
13:14There's strength in me, yes.
13:15Now the small ones are coming, okay, let's do it.
13:17Let's do it.
13:19Then you're getting more difficult.
13:20No, no, no.
13:21Chowty, sasab, you're getting more difficult.
13:22No, no.
13:22Then it's not.
13:23They're not making the problems for you.
13:25No, no, no, no.
13:26Easy.
13:27Easy scene.
13:28Easy scene.
13:29They've seen them and told them them,
13:30Abba and Amma, that's it.
13:31They need to do this and do it.
13:32Let's go further.
13:33Do it or not.
13:34What do it do?
13:34Then we have to do a mistake.
13:36We've all worked in the same time.
13:37We are actors.
13:38So, now, let's stay, child.
13:39Come on.
13:39Luckily, this job allows me to bring him to work.
13:43So they care or they don't need it or they have to be in the house.
13:47And all my colleagues who are little children who are 10 years ago or now, they have to be in the set.
13:54I have interesting stories to share once he grows up.
13:57Now I want to tell you, what are the traits of Zeba's character that you can relate to.
14:06But that you understood really well and that made you want to play Zeba even more.
14:11I like to think that I can learn and empathize with people and with humans.
14:20It is a very big thing in me of understanding and feeling empathetic towards people.
14:28So Zeba was just another character who I felt empathetic towards.
14:34which I wanted to explain in the story.
14:38The message that I felt that I wanted to be a part of it, to highlight it.
14:45Already in the fourth episode, fifth episode, it was hitting home.
14:49It was hitting nails, lots of nails on lots of heads.
14:51A lot of people were being like, this is my story, this is my story.
14:54It was my story, this is my story.
14:57It was my story, it was my story.
14:58It was my story that my father was a saint, my father was a saint.
15:03My father is a saint.
15:05Why are all the saints in the world?
15:06My mother is a saint.
15:07My mother is a saint.
15:08Yes.
15:09Back to the mother.
15:10Back to the mother.
15:11Because back to the thing that the male child is, here is the leg for you.
15:15Here is the college for you.
15:17Here is the fund for you.
15:18Here is the everything for you.
15:21The love for you.
15:22And you should try for that or your brother.
15:24And make a camera for her.
15:26If she is a mother, she is saying that she is saying.
15:29This is an ingrained thing.
15:30Society has become a villain.
15:32Mother has become a hero or a villain.
15:36I have seen it.
15:37I have just seen it.
15:38I am speaking for my mom.
15:39This is my opinion from what I have seen in life.
15:43And it somehow proves it.
15:46Do you feel any relatable?
15:49So what was your question?
15:52What made me want to play is that this is a story of listening to Kanaa.
15:57It is a story of listening to Kanaa.
15:58It is a story of listening to Kanaa.
16:00Not just in a Pakistani society.
16:02So you have to see it.
16:04Because it is an ending.
16:08Maybe it should happen before.
16:10We will see.
16:11But the journey is very relevant.
16:13And a positive story.
16:14Do you have any aspect of her personality?
16:17Yes, it is okay.
16:18It is a lot of patience.
16:19It is also in you.
16:20In Sanab, there is a lot of patience.
16:22There is a lot of patience.
16:24There is a lot of patience in Kanaa.
16:26There is no patience in Kanaa.
16:28But I have patience.
16:29And I felt that.
16:30I understand the patience.
16:32And every woman says that it will get better.
16:37I will change.
16:38I will give it my 100%.
16:41I will leave it to them.
16:42I will leave it to them.
16:44It is wrong.
16:45But when you are a good person.
16:47And you want to be a good person.
16:48And you want to be a good person.
16:50So you have to try to mold and adjust yourself.
16:53You have to give it to yourself.
16:55But you give it your 100%.
16:57The other person is just beating you down constantly.
16:59This thought is very important.
17:03And I want to dig deep into it a little bit.
17:05As an actor who is playing Zeba.
17:07And as a woman.
17:08You think that this is what happens.
17:11That I will give it to them.
17:13For them, for them, for them, for them.
17:15For them, for them, for them.
17:16For them, for them.
17:17This societal pressure is ingrained in society.
17:22Or this is an inherent trait for a person.
17:25For a person.
17:26For them.
17:27As we often say.
17:29That they are nurturers.
17:32Does it stem from there?
17:34Or is this a society?
17:35I am very fascinated by this thing.
17:37From your perspective.
17:38I think.
17:39Because I know a lot of men.
17:41Also.
17:42Who have adapted to the situation.
17:46So.
17:47I think.
17:48There will be some character traits.
17:50And society.
17:52Inherent personality traits.
17:53Inherent personality traits.
17:54Just for women.
17:55I don't know.
17:56Not gender specific.
17:57I don't think gender specific.
17:58I think it becomes gender specific because of society.
18:01But otherwise, it's a trait.
18:03Some people.
18:04They are a great person.
18:07They are oblivious.
18:08They are a very selfish person.
18:10They are also chameleons.
18:12Adaptable.
18:13Like.
18:14Jami is a chameleon in another term.
18:17And Zeba is a chameleon in another term.
18:18Because what she was at home.
18:20Is a very different woman from what she became after getting married.
18:23Yeah.
18:24She changed.
18:25So she is also a chameleon in a way.
18:26As humans we are.
18:27We evolve.
18:28And we change.
18:29And we adapt.
18:30And we are going to see you on a very short break.
18:32We are going to see you on a very short break.
18:39Welcome back.
18:40Khawateen and Huzrata.
18:41I am the one and the only.
18:42Sunam Said.
18:43It's not that if there is another personality of a girl,
18:47it's not the person who is the girl.
18:49It's not the person who is the girl.
18:51It's a character trait.
18:53Depending on your situation.
18:55So you can't say that a female is like that?
18:57No, it's not the same.
18:59But our drama often becomes a stereotype.
19:02It becomes a stereotype.
19:04Because we see a lot of young girls,
19:07so you attribute the gender to it.
19:09You can't say that it's a personality.
19:11So you were very tired,
19:13why do we show this kind of drama every time?
19:15Yes.
19:16You said it's true.
19:17It's too much.
19:18I'm talking about pressure.
19:20I've seen it.
19:22But now the Pakistani dramas,
19:24how many are we doing?
19:26We were doing math.
19:28I don't know how many channels,
19:29how many hours we have in it,
19:30how many dialogues we have in it.
19:32About 300, I don't know,
19:34thousand hours of drama time.
19:36So you've got so many stories.
19:38You've just heard a few stories,
19:40which you see as well,
19:42but they are thousands of people.
19:44But the ones that you see...
19:45Thousands of people don't make them.
19:46How many?
19:47No, thousands of people don't make them.
19:48But you do it.
19:49The channels are many,
19:50and the slots are many,
19:51and the hours are many.
19:52So the air-time channels...
19:53The percentage of these stories,
19:56I feel a little bit more.
19:57Is it more?
19:58Yes.
19:59You see those people,
20:00because they are good.
20:01I see all of them.
20:03My job is.
20:05Because, I mean,
20:06storytelling is part of a culture,
20:08part of a society,
20:09and you draw from your society,
20:11and you draw from your society,
20:12and you draw from your society,
20:13and you write stories,
20:14and tell them.
20:15Now, there are 10 stories,
20:18you've got to tell them.
20:20Do you think that the objective
20:22that you all set out to achieve,
20:24that is what you are looking for?
20:26It's objective, right?
20:27One thing is,
20:28one thing is,
20:29we want to entertain,
20:30one thing is,
20:31just to show society,
20:32which we are...
20:33That's what I thought,
20:34in five or six episodes,
20:36You have to think that in five or six episodes,
20:37comments,
20:38people,
20:39calls,
20:40messages,
20:41reviews ...
20:42people are saying that,
20:45it's hitting a nail on a head,
20:47it's making a point,
20:48it's showing the mirror to society,
20:50an important message,
20:52you should not watch a father's drama,
20:54or stories.
20:55Someone says,
20:56Someone says that I want to see my father's wife.
21:00The conversation started after the 6th episode.
21:05And particularly after the confession of Zeba's.
21:09The build-up of Romal comes from episode 2 and in episode 1.
21:12So the conversation is the end of the conversation.
21:14As soon as the mother takes the Romal to the father,
21:16the first thing is that I hope Zeba gets to know that eventually,
21:21that the mother had a Romal and eventually it reveals.
21:26What will she do now?
21:27She will be sitting there.
21:29People were waiting for her.
21:31She also opened it.
21:33And now the divorce came and she is ready.
21:36The father said,
21:36I am standing behind you.
21:38Amazing message again.
21:39People want to see the father's wife.
21:42I am very good at that.
21:43Why didn't you see the father's wife before?
21:46I understand the father's wife.
21:49I don't have a complaint from him.
21:51But how do you assess this feedback?
21:54He said, I didn't see the father's wife before.
21:56What is this?
21:57Your wife is so securely and strongly saying,
22:00that he is my friend, so you trust it.
22:02It's not a big deal that he trusted it.
22:04And he says, I know from childhood.
22:05He has put his wife in the car.
22:07Your wife, your partner, your children's mother
22:10and he says, okay, you are lazy.
22:14Yes, the word is lazy.
22:15Was he wrong or incorrect or stupid?
22:17No, he was lazy.
22:18Also, the way that...
22:19Again, a reminder that just because Rice family,
22:21just because you know them, you are lazy now.
22:24Lazy is the word.
22:25They were lazy.
22:25He should have done his due diligence.
22:27It's not like he is a bad father.
22:29No, and he wasn't even irresponsible.
22:30He was lazy.
22:31It was one step.
22:32He had to go to a bazaar.
22:33He didn't have to go.
22:36But he didn't have to go.
22:37Okay, now the story is going to be a lot further.
22:39Without giving anything away.
22:41What can you say?
22:43What direction will he give you?
22:44What do viewers expect?
22:46Because big people are hooked and big people are watching.
22:48They are closely monitoring them.
22:50They are going to be a move to Zeba.
22:51So, you will see that a woman
22:54who doesn't extract their relationship so easily.
22:58What are the reasons?
23:00What are the reasons?
23:00What are the reasons?
23:03What are the reasons?
23:05You will just keep following the story.
23:07I don't know if it will be a disease or a disease.
23:09I don't know.
23:10There are a million reasons of wanting to stay.
23:14And it means that it is in elite and elite homes.
23:18There was a human rights activist once that I knew.
23:24There is a mother in the house.
23:25But she does work on human rights.
23:27There are also situations in this level.
23:30So, when I have seen them, I have heard of them.
23:32So, when we do dramas in this kind of stories,
23:34it is just a slice of life that we are seeing.
23:38Every slice of life doesn't end.
23:39It is not a happy ending in most cases.
23:42There are several chapters in Zeba's life.
23:44You are asking me why I have heard of them.
23:47Why did you ask me?
23:48Because I have seen a message in every chapter.
23:51A reality, a reality, and an ending to a situation.
23:58Like a conclusion in every chapter.
24:01I was asking you to ask me why I don't think you should do this kind of work in which I don't have messages.
24:08So, I think that I have heard of the previous work in which I don't have to do this kind of work.
24:11What do you think about this additional?
24:16What was it in your life?
24:18I don't think about it.
24:19Do you think about it in your eyes?
24:22Before I thought, now it's an honor and a privilege.
24:27That people think that I should do roles like that.
24:32When they see me, they think, okay, she's got to do a role like this.
24:36I feel good, I feel good.
24:39I feel very grateful that this kind of association is with me.
24:44They idealize you.
24:45That's the thing.
24:46No, I don't idealize.
24:47That's the thing.
24:48The expectation is that.
24:49The expectation is that.
24:50The expectation is that.
24:51The expectation is that you did a good job,
24:53so that you did a lot more responsible job.
24:56So I think it's an expectation that.
24:58You told me that more.
25:00Yes, more.
25:01Yes, more.
25:02Because I always say that.
25:04I always have to do social work.
25:06I always have to do it together.
25:08And I really found that acting on television can be a huge piece to that puzzle.
25:16You are spreading the truth.
25:18You are being a messenger of hope.
25:23And you are being able to do a small fraction of whatever you are doing.
25:31Just by showing their story.
25:34You know, a lot of people say,
25:36When will someone tell my story?
25:37Or,
25:38When will someone tell my story?
25:40And so I just feel like these stories are reality based.
25:42And it's amazing when writers, fans, viewers, audience members,
25:49They say that this is my story.
25:51This is with me.
25:52This is with my sister.
25:53This is with me.
25:54This is with me.
25:55This is with me.
25:56This is with me.
25:57It's difficult for some people to see.
25:59It gives them courage.
26:00Some people to see.
26:01This is with me.
26:03This is with me.
26:04This is what we are talking about.
26:05The new generation is like that.
26:06The new generation is like, you can see it in the mood, you can see it in the mood, it means it in the mood.
26:14So, people have been like, that's my story.
26:20And thank you for doing or writing or producing the team.
26:26It feels good that we can say something about the work.
26:30But you don't have to go outside.
26:31No, I'm doing a lot of fun.
26:33I don't feel heavy on your shoulders.
26:36No, it's a privilege, it's an honor.
26:39It's my duty.
26:41It's my duty.
26:43What's next for Sanam?
26:47Now, there are many scripts that say that we bring children to their children.
26:51So, it's probably because of Waliy.
26:54And the name is Waliy.
26:56So, maybe I've been able to do that.
26:58I've been able to do that.
26:59I've been able to do that for 100 days.
27:03And now, I'm like,
27:04Now, when this wrap up, I can accept another script?
27:10You know, because Waliy has grown up on set now.
27:12Now, I've got a little time.
27:13I've got to work in the heat.
27:15I can't think.
27:16I can't think.
27:17I can't think.
27:18The Rimaad has exactly this story.
27:19I can't think.
27:20No, no, because it's so much and it's so bad experience.
27:23I'm getting wet.
27:25I'm getting wet.
27:26I'm getting wet.
27:27I'm getting wet.
27:28I'm getting wet.
27:29I'm getting wet.
27:30I'm getting wet.
27:31No sense of any person.
27:32Then you can see the conditions on the road.
27:34The winter comes and the mood is good.
27:37It's a thing.
27:38It's a thing.
27:39It's a thing.
27:40It's a thing.
27:41But it's a thing.
27:42It's a thing.
27:43It's a thing.
27:44But the work is done.
27:45I feel bad in the heat.
27:46I feel bad.
27:47I'm saying,
27:48I'm going to do June and July.
27:49I can't.
27:50It can be extended.
27:51It can be delayed.
27:52I'll do it.
27:53You're ready to do it.
27:54It's all done.
27:55It's all done.
27:56When we were on air,
27:57like this, we were back to back.
27:59After the biryani,
28:00we had to do it.
28:01It was a very pressure.
28:03How was the experience with the Rimaad?
28:06He's such a serious.
28:08He told me,
28:09you guys met some 20 years ago.
28:11We were modelling in Lahore.
28:122005-2006.
28:13And he said,
28:14Sanam told me,
28:15that he wants to be an actor.
28:17I was impressed.
28:18I was like, okay, yeah.
28:19Good, good.
28:20No, no.
28:21He's a very well versed.
28:23He's so good.
28:25He's an academic level actor.
28:27Yes, absolutely.
28:28By the book.
28:29Which is really interesting.
28:31He knows all the acting methods and all the actors.
28:33And the terms that most people won't even understand.
28:35Yes.
28:36So, I love that.
28:37That's fun.
28:38You're not like that?
28:39You're not that kind of actor?
28:40No.
28:41Everything's forgotten.
28:42It's just become second nature.
28:44It's triggered as a muscle memory.
28:46When you come to the set.
28:47Absolutely.
28:48Who was saying?
28:49I was one other actress in one scene.
28:51She said,
28:52I'm coming back after three years.
28:54And I felt like,
28:55I was born after three years.
28:58Can I do?
28:59I have it.
29:00And she was so good.
29:01It was so long lines and monologues.
29:03I had no idea.
29:05She said, I had no idea.
29:07You've come to the set.
29:08But I've been acting.
29:09I've been acting.
29:10Yeah.
29:11I've been acting after three and a half years.
29:13So, it is.
29:14It's like.
29:15You've told me,
29:16there's a difference in sets.
29:18There's a difference between the actors.
29:20The actors.
29:21The actors.
29:22The actors.
29:23The actors.
29:24The actors.
29:25For the big roles.
29:26The actors.
29:27For the big roles.
29:28You've done a lot of long shots.
29:29So, more body language.
29:30But you can't be loud.
29:31Like theater.
29:32TV is more of a close-up medium.
29:34So, more expressions.
29:35More expressions.
29:36And series is a lot of fun.
29:40Everything is about everything.
29:42You do the way.
29:44You do the way.
29:45You set the way.
29:46In the drama.
29:47You set the way.
29:48In one scene.
29:49In one scene.
29:50In another scene.
29:51In the other scene.
29:52In another scene.
29:53You're being aged.
29:54You're going to the flashback.
29:55You are going crazy. But in the series, it's very organized and it goes along with a graph.
30:03Last week, when I was talking to Amad, I told them that when the first look came,
30:10my immediate reaction was that, wow man, two such good looking people are coming together.
30:16And I think a lot of people felt that. What a good look, Amad.
30:20Both of you though, both of you.
30:22Yeah, but like it's Sanam Said. It's not Zeva. It's Sanam Said.
30:26And you look at Sanam Said and you like Amad and like, you know, such a stunning.
30:29It was fun. When they said Amad is doing it, I was like, oh, great.
30:32And then I knew, you know, when Misa was going to be there, I was like, he's going to get the best out of everyone.
30:36And it will be fun.
30:38I mean, your association with Umaira Ji has been iconic, to say the least.
30:42Was there an advantage in that?
30:45One of Zeva's very long journey is in Kafeel.
30:50There was a career choice.
30:53I said, I'm going to be watching TV so many years later.
30:55Do you want me to take a role in this era?
30:58Where there will be this era and that era too?
31:01Where you move forward?
31:03Where you move forward?
31:04Where you move forward?
31:05I mean, there's 20 years.
31:07It's 20 years.
31:08I did that 10 years ago.
31:12Can I still do that now?
31:14Is it a risk?
31:15You know, because with social media, with endorsements, just with work generally, with association.
31:19If you're on TV, it affects your rest of your work.
31:23Right?
31:24I don't think like that.
31:25But in a second, I have to think because we are also aging.
31:29And the roles are changing.
31:31And other work is also going to get affected.
31:34So, I was like, Umaira Ji.
31:35She's like, do you want to be Barbie doll for us?
31:37Or leave your legacy behind it?
31:40I said, why?
31:41That's all.
31:42Something on those lines.
31:43You know, she was so kind and she was so supportive and so encouraging.
31:46She's like, think about it.
31:48You want to think about work, the rest of your work?
31:50Or do you want to have a body of work that really, you know,
31:54shines your name?
31:55Hmm.
31:56I just said, okay.
31:57It's okay.
31:58It's okay.
31:59Do you think that in 2026, do you see the audience like this?
32:02Or endorsements or brands?
32:04100%.
32:05100%.
32:06Yet, craft, talent, skill?
32:08It's not anything.
32:09It's appreciated.
32:10But linked to endorsements or other work, whatever you are on TV,
32:15you have the same association, right?
32:17It does.
32:18So, you've been very lucky.
32:19I've been very lucky.
32:21Alhamdulillah.
32:22I've also taken a risk.
32:23But Umaira Ji was correct in our conversations.
32:27You decide what you want to leave behind.
32:30How you want to project yourself.
32:31You want to project yourself.
32:33Then you don't think about anything.
32:36Zeba must have been quite convincing then.
32:39It was a challenge.
32:41I was a little double-minded for accepting it.
32:44But when I accepted it, yes.
32:46Zeba was...
32:47I was convinced that Zeba is a leader.
32:49Yes, yes, yes.
32:50It's worth the risk.
32:51Yes, yes, yes.
32:52Worth the risk.
32:53Back to the topic of your next project.
32:55Is there anything to decide about?
32:57There are possibilities.
32:58If it's warm, it won't be.
33:00If it's warm, it won't be.
33:01If it's warm, it won't be.
33:03Let's see.
33:04And do you think at all that?
33:05I like taking breaks.
33:07I think maybe two years later I will do something.
33:08Two years?
33:09You will come back with so many difficulties.
33:11One year, one project.
33:12One year, one project.
33:13So, it's been in 2020, now 27.
33:15But now, the two episodes are finished.
33:17It's been finished in four months.
33:19It's been finished in seven months or eight months.
33:21So let's see.
33:22I don't know.
33:23Is there still sort of like a character that you wish that you can play on Pakistani television?
33:29Biopics?
33:30Who is it?
33:31Benazir Bhutto, Nazia Hassan, Parveen Rahman.
33:36Biopic.
33:37On any incredible e.
33:41Yeah.
33:42Brave woman.
33:43I'd like to.
33:44That's it.
33:45I mean, there's another character that you have.
33:47There's another character trait of someone.
33:48You know.
33:50I've done it.
33:51I'm doing it.
33:52I'm doing it.
33:53I've been doing them.
33:54I am doing them.
33:55I think like what?
33:56What kind of character?
33:59Moama type?
34:00Perhaps.
34:01I mean, what a year for Sabah.
34:03Three different characters.
34:05That would be interesting.
34:06If you look at that range in one time.
34:09I'd be interested.
34:10Just thinking about it.
34:11Then you have to project in the heat.
34:13If we are simultaneously watching two or three dramas.
34:17Then you have to work in the heat.
34:19Then you have to work in the heat.
34:21Then in the heat.
34:22Then in the heat.
34:23Then in the heat.
34:24But let's see.
34:25Thank you so much Sanam.
34:27It is an absolute pleasure chatting with you.
34:29And I think that this interview was a small.
34:31There are a lot of questions in my mind.
34:32It's not too long.
34:33No, there are a lot of questions.
34:34There are a lot of questions.
34:35And I hope that you can come to our set someday.
34:38Yes.
34:39And then we can have a longer conversation.
34:40There will be another number.
34:41Yes.
34:42We will take another number in two parts.
34:44But thank you so much.
34:47Sanam, it was a pleasure chatting with you.
34:49I am happy with you.
34:50I am happy with you.
34:51I am happy with you.
34:52You are one of my favorite actresses.
34:57Thank you very much.
35:02With that note,
35:03خواتین وزرات,
35:04آپ سے بھی اجازت چاہیں گے.
35:05مجھے پوری امید ہے
35:06کہ ہمارا یہ جو کفیل سپیشل دو اپیسوڈ تھی
35:08آپ نے بہت انجوائی کیوں گی.
35:10انشاءاللہ اگلے ہفتے آپ سے دوبارہ ملاقات ہوگی.
35:12یا سیٹ پہ
35:13یا کسی اور کے سیٹ پہ
35:15تب تک اپنا خیال رکھی گا.
35:16دعا ہمیں یاد رکھی گا.
35:17خدافز.
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