We need to move forward

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Transparency International Malaysia president Raymon Ram speaks candidly about Malaysia’s stagnant CPI score. He warns that systemic weaknesses continue to erode trust — but insists reform and consistent enforcement can make corruption harder, riskier, and less normal over time.   WATCH MORE: https://thestartv.com/c/news SUBSCRIBE: https://cutt.ly/TheStar LIKE: https://fb.com/TheStarOnline

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00:00Now if we look at what can be I mean the highs and lows because the CPR results what it measures

00:28is two years before right when we say two years before it would the survey period would usually end

00:33one year before the mid of the year before right like June or July the year before so we got to see

00:39what has been implemented during that time but again it's two things here that's taken to account

00:44one is the strategy that's in place and what I have been mentioning now and then is what we call

00:52the say-do gap say-do gap is a lot has been said but not much has been done we understand the

00:58the PM has consistently said that there's constraints and there's discussions that need to be made

01:03between different different parties and whatnot but we believe that it should be faster right it's way

01:08too slow what's happening now we are not saying that reforms are not being done it is being done

01:12but way too slow so another another point is I think we are also well aware is the cases that are coming

01:18out and how these cases are being treated now the problem we are facing here again I don't want to go

01:23too much into it dulu lah but but we had DNAAs we had high level politicians that were charged for for

01:30corruption and then when they go to court we see that insufficient evidence so either the case is

01:34no longer pursued and such now this would create a bad public perception

01:38for me is again the widening sedu gap has to go down lah right you have to reduce that gap of what you

01:55see and what's being implemented right and if there is policy they they are plans or strategies in place

02:01ensure that they are implemented in accordance to what has been mentioned not a checklist it shouldn't be a

02:07checklist-based compliance like how even companies that are companies it's not checklist-based why are you

02:12doing it can you measure outcome what is that outcome that you measure and if not it's pointless

02:18and what has been implemented now according to NACP should also be measured based on outcome

02:23you've implemented now what what can we see what's the impact to it right and and just to cover a few

02:28more areas just now that probably we missed this uh talking about ombudsman for example yeah I want to

02:33make it clear also because these different understandings of what ombudsman is and there

02:38are different practices in different countries ombudsman is if to very to very easily understand it

02:45it will be a two-line reporting structure

02:59what so that's personal personal feeling of how i feel when i see cases of yeah i don't know i i have i

03:06still have hope i still have hope for me i believe that uh they you're never going to have a perfect world

03:12corruption can never be eliminated right i i don't use that word we want to mitigate

03:16you want to mitigate reduce so i i i do expect there will be cases but i don't want cases at the

03:22highest level because when you have when you have an ex-army chief at the top that's getting charged hope

03:30and if they get and they get convicted you know the whole structure is not right yeah i don't want to use

03:35the word rotten but whole structure may not be right right somebody has to step in

03:43so as i see cases i still have hope uh that things can change and we have to just keep pushing

03:49forward but i i haven't given up hope yet so i won't say that it is depressing but i mean i don't

03:57don't mind me saying this but uh the thing about history in Malaysia is we don't learn from it lah at all

04:03right 1MDB was massive it brought up the issue of grand grand corruption grand corruption does not mean

04:09big amount this is something that even media gets wrong sometimes the definition of grand corruption is

04:14when you are at the highest level you make policy changes and you you you make instruments which would

04:21facilitate abuse of power that is grand corruption

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