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00:00:00Untertitelung des ZDF, 2020
00:00:30Fear is in the mind, they say, but I strongly believe that the eyes manufacture the fear that resides in the mind.
00:00:46I have portrayed this in the movie Mountain Devil, a film that was very difficult to bring to life.
00:00:54A story about two hunters coming face to face with something they had never seen before.
00:01:00A creature that was supposed to be just a myth was now pounding on the outside of their cabin door.
00:01:07But the human strength lies in the ability to think of a solution out of a crisis.
00:01:12And there it was. Rifles.
00:01:16To bring down that Goliath, so they thought.
00:01:19To bury it and try to forget what they had just experienced.
00:01:23But even in death, the creature still haunted those terrified hunters.
00:01:29Mountain Devil had become a very long journey.
00:01:31And I felt satisfied when it was time to bring it to an audience and then finally laying it to rest.
00:01:38Searching for the truth about Frank Peterson had become an emotional rollercoaster for several years.
00:01:44At the end, I will always wonder if the truth was in that 8mm film.
00:01:49I felt I had said all I needed to say about the Bigfoot phenomena in Pennsylvania.
00:01:58Until now, several years ago, I stumbled upon a book titled The Creature.
00:02:03And I found myself asking the same questions as I did while making Mountain Devil.
00:02:09But the question had become, could I go to that place one more time?
00:02:14It was this book that relit those memories.
00:02:17So I wanted to understand the inspiration for the book, The Creature.
00:02:21What propelled that art?
00:02:23Was it fiction or non-fiction?
00:02:25I believe the author has his side to the story, just like I have a reason for mine.
00:02:31I began to analyse the book from front to back, looking for clues on each page.
00:02:36And my first clue was the publishing company itself, the Allegheny Press.
00:02:42After a little searching online, I found the address, but no phone number.
00:02:48My best effort was to write a letter, and my efforts did pay off with a response.
00:02:54Tell me, I was here.
00:02:57Send any comments.
00:02:58Tell me the truth.
00:03:00Give me everything.
00:03:08Jackie Be pana, I found the answer, but I don't know who you are.
00:03:10Tell me.
00:03:12Tell me.
00:03:13Tell me.
00:03:14Tell me.
00:03:14Tell me.
00:03:16Tell them.
00:03:16Tell me, hello.
00:03:17Tell me.
00:03:18Thank you.
00:03:23Untertitelung. BR 2018
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00:04:23Untertitelung. BR 2018
00:04:53My name is John Temeichael, and I am 91 years old, and I am, I was at one time the publisher
00:05:14of the creature.
00:05:21We would go to conventions, and there is where I met the man, Jan Clement.
00:05:29And we were friends, but we were friendly, but we were not friends.
00:05:37At one convention, he asked me if I would consider publishing a book that he wrote.
00:05:49And he said, I said, well, what's it about?
00:05:55And he said, it's about my experiences with Bigfoot.
00:06:02And I said, well, what's it about?
00:06:11I said, I think the man, Wait till they wanted me to know what type of thing is right in Japan.
00:06:18And so, I couldn't find the man who knows what type of thing is right in Japan.
00:06:21Es ist schwierig, die Wahrheit von Fantasie zu entfernen.
00:06:51Time has passed, about two years to be exact, and I feel that I better write down my story
00:06:57before it passes into the gray area of unreality.
00:07:13I have never seen such a creature in my life.
00:07:16My first impression was that the creature was ape-like or man-like.
00:07:20About seven feet tall and covered with brown hair.
00:07:24The creature seems very powerful, with well-developed legs and shoulder muscles.
00:07:29I felt very fortunate to see such a creature.
00:07:32It was no longer folklore to me.
00:07:34We needed to find out more about the locations where this story, the creature, took place.
00:07:56So we headed south to Dunbar, Pennsylvania, to meet up with some of the leading experts in the Bigfoot field.
00:08:04For some answers, I started with Stan Gordon, who has been researching the Bigfoot phenomena near the Chestnut Ridge for many years.
00:08:12I've heard people tell me that, you know, they're familiar with the book.
00:08:17And I've heard some people say, well, they thought who possibly was involved.
00:08:20But nobody really had any proof, any really good information.
00:08:24I remember many, many years ago, I tried to do some follow-up on it, but really couldn't get anywhere.
00:08:29And I was so busy investigating current reports, I really couldn't donate a lot of time to the investigation.
00:08:36But it's a very, very interesting story.
00:08:39The question is, is how much is truthful and how much may not be.
00:08:45But it's a very interesting story.
00:08:47And I'll keep an open mind to all possibilities.
00:08:49Could we be on the trail of discovering who the author truly was and the possible location of where this encounter took place?
00:09:02The creature of the book is possibly fiction or non-fiction.
00:09:09I know I already asked these questions, but I'm just kind of...
00:09:11I'd like to believe that it's true, but...
00:09:14And as far as percentage is concerned, I would lean toward maybe 60, 40.
00:09:1940 that it's true and 40 that it isn't.
00:09:22The way he described the creature, it's pretty believable.
00:09:29But like I also have said to many people that some of the nuances and little characteristics of the creature,
00:09:39it's really hard to believe as far as its behavior with Jan Clement.
00:09:46As far as just staring at each other for periods of up to an hour and a half, two hours at a time,
00:09:56just looking at each other and observing each other,
00:09:59no real close interaction, of course, as he had written,
00:10:03I believe it's possible.
00:10:06I really do.
00:10:06My name is Eric Altman, I'm from North Huntington, Pennsylvania, in the southwestern corner of the state,
00:10:15and I've been investigating sightings and claims of a Bigfoot creature for going on close to 22 years now.
00:10:22The book and the experiences that Jan wrote about are very detailed.
00:10:29He provides extremely detailed information about the creature itself,
00:10:33some of its unusual behaviors and habits,
00:10:36and he talks about having almost daily encounters with the creature.
00:10:39And at that time, back in the mid-1970s, before the book was released,
00:10:44there was little information that was released to the public.
00:10:47Just the general encounters that Jan had in the book,
00:10:52so it's very intriguing to read that kind of minute detail that he writes about in the story.
00:11:00There were some theories that were put out by a few experienced Bigfoot researchers.
00:11:05Lauren Coleman proposed a theory, I believe.
00:11:08Lauren proposed it was chemistry professor Dr. Paul Johnson at the University of Duquesne,
00:11:13but upon questioning Paul, myself and other people have asked him,
00:11:17he said he absolutely was not the author of the book.
00:11:21We know the author of the book claims that he was an earth science professor
00:11:25at a small university in the Pittsburgh region, although we don't know who it is.
00:11:33Dr. Paul Johnson is a professor at a local university in Pennsylvania.
00:11:38For many years, people in the Bigfoot community thought that Dr. Johnson had written the book,
00:11:45The Creature.
00:11:46We attempted to reach out to him for an interview, but he denied.
00:11:50He did send the following email with his thoughts on the matter.
00:11:54The following is his email.
00:11:57Around 1995, a writer for the Mountain Journal, who had previously interviewed me,
00:12:03ran across the book, The Creature, in a yard sale.
00:12:07He photocopied the pages and mailed it to me.
00:12:10I was told that the publisher knew the author's true name and promised never to reveal it.
00:12:16I read the book and decided it was fictional.
00:12:18Apparently, someone decided that the author was a college science teacher in western Pennsylvania,
00:12:24and the author chose this pseudonym because Roberto Clement was his favourite ball player.
00:12:30So he changed the letter C to a K and dropped the letter E at the end.
00:12:36For the next 20 years, many researchers suspected that I was the author because Roberto was my favourite ball player.
00:12:43And of course, I teach at a university.
00:12:46I always told them I was not the author.
00:12:48One of the stipulations that the man Clement wanted was his identity not to be known,
00:13:08because even I was ridiculing him.
00:13:13And so he was really upset about that.
00:13:17And so we had to have an author.
00:13:23And so I gave him the name Jan Clement, which was the name of one of my grandfathers.
00:13:32For about a week thereafter, I set apples on the railing with no luck.
00:13:48I would set out two apples at a time and would not leave more than that overnight.
00:13:53Why should the creature want my apples when he could pick his own from any of the wild apple trees that abound in the area?
00:13:59The creature's appearance at my home escaped me.
00:14:03Deep down, I still hope to be able to see it one more time.
00:14:11After several weeks, the creature appeared again for some apples.
00:14:15He came from around the cabin and was standing four feet from the porch.
00:14:19I stood still for a moment.
00:14:21Then I made slight hand motions for the creature to come to me.
00:14:25I realized at once that it was not a human, and hand motions meant nothing.
00:14:29So I retrieved an apple and tossed it to the creature's feet.
00:14:33He picked up the apples and began to chomp down on them.
00:14:36I threw him another and another, and on the third apple I spoke in low, hushed tones,
00:14:42increasing my volume to normal about the tenth apple.
00:14:48The creature loaded most of these in his arms and walked to the bushes at the end of the clearing and disappeared.
00:14:54During the time it happened, of course, I was out there investigating with my teams so many of the Bigfoot sightings here in Pennsylvania.
00:15:10And it was being covered extensively by the local news media.
00:15:13It was on radio and TV.
00:15:15Newspapers were giving a lot of coverage.
00:15:17There were a lot of detailed details about some of my investigations that were coming out at the time.
00:15:23I guess I'm not surprised.
00:15:24Musik
00:15:52I guess I'm not surprised in that a pact had been made with the publisher with regard to not letting out the factual information with regard to that, especially if you can, you know, the element of trust is probably as strong a day as it was yesteryear, but there had to be a good bond between the author and the publisher in order to keep that story safe.
00:16:19If the author of the book is still living today, there could be terms that could be acceptable and agreed upon where the author could still remain anonymous, that the alleged burial site would remain secret and confidential,
00:16:35that even today, years later, a forensic scientific investigation could be done on the site.
00:16:42And this author indicated that he was very concerned over preserving the species of this unknown creature.
00:16:50And if that was the case, this would help to first strongly indicate and strongly confirm that there's some type of unknown species of creature out there, but may also help to protect this unknown species as well.
00:17:04We don't know exactly where the cabin that he called the Diggins was or where it burnt down.
00:17:13And so we can't really validate that information to say the book was a legitimate book.
00:17:18However, it does provide a lot of details to it, especially to the creature, his experiences with Kong.
00:17:24He does describe a lot of the area and where that book may have taken place in the Dunbar Mountains, the southern Chestnut Ridge in southwestern PA Fayette County.
00:17:36The book was brought to my attention by other researchers, and it was so detailed.
00:17:51It was so realistic in terms of how I knew from my investigation for over 50 years, how people really do approach contact.
00:18:07And what was remarkable was done so matter-of-factly.
00:18:11I knew a lot of researchers in Pennsylvania back in the 60s and 70s and thought maybe I could even figure out who it was, the biology professor.
00:18:24Or at one point, he called himself an earth science professor.
00:18:29So it was nicely hidden in the story, all of the clues to who this was.
00:18:36And I asked various people, some of whom I even knew as professors, they all denied being that individual.
00:18:45But it did seem like, it definitely seemed like there was something to there.
00:18:50It was a very privately published publication, and I felt that the person that published it was perhaps the same person that was being the hero or the narrator in the book.
00:19:09So I certainly think that's a possibility.
00:19:12So I certainly think that's a possibility.
00:19:39The next evening, he returned a little earlier and took apples from my hand, but would not really let me get near him.
00:19:47As long as the railing was between us, he was calm, and when I went to leave the porch, he would walk away and watch me over his shoulder.
00:19:55As you, the viewer, may ask, was I not frightened?
00:19:58I was terrified and excited at the same time.
00:20:02I knew this creature could end my life very quickly if it wanted to.
00:20:05On one occasion, a young deer came out to the field.
00:20:11The creature noticed it and quickly leaped to his feet and was off like a flash of lightning.
00:20:15His speed was fantastic, and he ran the deer down before it got more than 100 feet away.
00:20:45He picked it up in his powerful hand and slammed it to the ground, I assumed killing it instantly.
00:20:58Instead of returning to me, put the deer under his arm and stalked off through the brush.
00:21:03I did not see him again for five days.
00:21:07I worried that the creature might want to try human flesh at first, but after a while, the thought did not bother me.
00:21:15He ate none of this food in front of me, and perhaps he did not eat it at all.
00:21:19I wondered if he had family, and perhaps he was feeding them that deer.
00:21:23That day, I decided to give him a name.
00:21:26I gave him the name Kong.
00:21:28He asked for all kinds of guarantees that I wouldn't mention his name anywhere,
00:21:53and that as far as he was concerned, he didn't exist.
00:21:59So that was one of the bargains I made with him, and so far, I have stuck to that bargain.
00:22:10I reached out to Steve Coles, a Bigfoot investigator located in upstate New York.
00:22:20Steve had done extensive research into the book, the creature, and the author.
00:22:25I wanted to get his ideas on who the author could be, and if the story held any merit.
00:22:31Well, the first thing was to do was actually read the book, and in my copy of the book,
00:22:37I highlighted a number of sections in it that contained biographical data if you read the book.
00:22:44So in this case, Jan Clement is the whole thing wrapped in one,
00:22:49so I need to look at him as a person to see, kind of build a profile.
00:22:54So I was looking for a college professor who taught earth science,
00:23:00who got divorced shortly after the book got published,
00:23:04who was in the military service between 1952 to 1954 specifically.
00:23:11No person named Jan Clement existed.
00:23:14I mean, I've run it even through background services, and it was a no-go.
00:23:19The funny thing is, in conversation with some of the locals,
00:23:24one of them being, and I believe he's an entomologist in the area,
00:23:31who has a fascination with the Bigfoot mystery, actually knew of a Clement's point.
00:23:37And this got me really excited because I'm thinking, maybe the place does exist.
00:23:42So I get on the Google Maps and look at the satellite shots,
00:23:47and one of the giveaways in the later editions was that the cabin in the 80s had been burned down,
00:23:54but the footprint of the cabin still exists.
00:23:57And this Clement's point had this footprint of this cabin with a pond,
00:24:02which back in the 60s and 70s, early 70s, overlooked cow pastures,
00:24:07so it really fit.
00:24:09Thank you.
00:24:39Once again, attributed to the fact that I'm sure he was a very knowledgeable,
00:25:08educated man in quite a few science fields.
00:25:12And, of course, he had a base of friends.
00:25:15He had the zoology professor, anthropology people that he could confer with
00:25:23in neighboring universities, whether it be Waynesburg College,
00:25:27whether it be California State College.
00:25:29Back then, they weren't universities.
00:25:30So he was handed, I think, a platter of good information
00:25:40that he would be able to write from in a very believable manner.
00:25:45Yeah, I've been doing this now going on 61 years.
00:25:55I knew many of the main people involved in Bigfoot research back in those days,
00:25:59and I've learned of many others since.
00:26:01And I've never heard it brought up that anybody who was involved in investigations actively
00:26:08may have been involved with the book.
00:26:11I've heard rumors of people who may have been involved with the book,
00:26:16and other people were following up and trying to find out who this person might be.
00:26:19But to be honest with you, I was so busy investigating other reports,
00:26:23I really didn't have time to follow up on the book.
00:26:39I would think that somebody who had their first encounter, as talked about in the book,
00:26:43they would have gone through much more detail.
00:26:45Also, the behavior of the creature that's described in the book.
00:26:49So the author is talking about the fact that this creature,
00:26:54after a period of time, begins to make frequent, almost daily visits to the property,
00:27:00that they're actually having meals together, and they get very close.
00:27:04And that's something, again, of the hundreds of Bigfoot cases I've worked on,
00:27:08this is something that just doesn't come up.
00:27:11The author, he's using a pen name.
00:27:17We don't know exactly where the cabin that he called the Diggins was or where it burnt down,
00:27:23so we can't really validate that information.
00:27:25However, without any way to validate who he was or where the actual cabin sat,
00:27:30we can't follow up on those claims.
00:27:31And to this day, no one knows really if it is a non-fiction or a fictional book.
00:27:37This road, in particular, is where Janet Clement had taken Kong, after Kong's death,
00:27:59from the northern portion toward Chestnut Ridge and Dunbar Township and Gamelands 51,
00:28:09in a south direction onto Wimp Gap's Road,
00:28:12and decided he was going to bury the creature.
00:28:16He did so off to the side of the road because it was very handy, unfortunately.
00:28:25Also cumbersome in that he was trying to handle the weight of the creature by himself.
00:28:31I believe I was looking at a map, I want to say circa 1968, 1967, somewhere in there, of that area.
00:28:46And sure enough, there was a pull-off before the border,
00:28:50and there looked like there could be some trails in that particular area.
00:28:54The description in the book says that he could see the hill over the next hill was actually West Virginia.
00:29:02So that could really only equate for three different areas, really,
00:29:08where he would be able to see a hill on the other side of the border.
00:29:12So it came down to like three different fingers almost as this site came.
00:29:19But getting out to that site is the last step.
00:29:23It seemed as if I had more questions than answers.
00:29:40Who was this mystery writer, and why would they hide after writing such a story?
00:29:45My thoughts ran in several durations.
00:29:49Was the story even true, or a complex hoax?
00:29:53Or could there be the remains of a Bigfoot in the foothills of Pennsylvania, waiting to be discovered?
00:30:05I headed north towards Indiana, Pennsylvania,
00:30:09to meet up with another group of Bigfoot researchers,
00:30:13and hope to find an answer to the mystery of the creature.
00:30:17Okay, I'm the director of the Fayette County, Pennsylvania Bigfoot Research Project and also West Virginia Center for Unexplained Events.
00:30:35I believe he may have had some interaction with the Bigfoot, but I don't think that, I mean, toward the end of the book where he chopped him up in that, I don't really believe that.
00:30:47But again, with the apple, the apples and that, and also, I recently went out and was doing some research on the police chief, because he talked about the police chief had nine kids.
00:30:59And I talked to a lady township up by Dunbar, she said that the police chief up there had anywhere between seven to nine kids, so it's very possible that was the police chief, but he's dead now.
00:31:11Yeah, we have talked to people about the book, and it seems like a lot of people don't believe in it. There's always that but, you know, what if there is some truth in this book?
00:31:27And it seems like a lot of people don't believe in it. There's always that but, you know, what if there is some truth in this book?
00:31:34And did he write it to be so unbelievable that people wouldn't believe it, so they wouldn't pursue the location that maybe it actually did happen?
00:31:54Even though you say there wasn't many resources back then, we did not have the internet, but there were many books written back in the 60s and 70s on Bigfoot.
00:32:02And there were a lot of articles and magazines out, so he did have that as resources as opposed to the internet.
00:32:09Do you really believe this guy had that experience?
00:32:11I would say I would not say he completely didn't, all right? I believe that there are people that actually have been talking to Bigfoot for the last 15 years.
00:32:24I mean, down in West Virginia, they were telling us that they used to run the Bigfoot out of the barn because he was eating the cow stuff.
00:32:31I mean, Bigfoot was like a family member to a lot of people.
00:32:38Now, the first time I read the book, I just read it through as just reading a story.
00:32:42The second time, I was paying more attention to the details and trying to figure things out.
00:32:48But it says in the book that names have been changed, locations have been changed.
00:32:53So, could it have been somewhere else?
00:32:56Could it have been actually in the area of Fayette County in Dunbar?
00:33:00Like it says in the book, and he's just trying to throw people off?
00:33:03Who knows? It could have happened in West Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania.
00:33:07It was very general what he said. So, it would be kind of like looking for a needle in a haystack.
00:33:13Exactly.
00:33:14Where exactly it was. So, that's why we never researched it ourselves.
00:33:18When you think about it, 1976 was so early. That's why a lot of people never really discovered the book The Creature until the 80s because it kind of got lost.
00:33:37It was almost like this guy had this experience. He wanted to self-publish it and sort of get it off his chest.
00:33:45And it wasn't really promoted. It wasn't the book that was pushed a lot or even shared with that many other people.
00:33:54So, I found it kind of engaging at some level for that reason because it wasn't a book that was produced to make a lot of money.
00:34:06It seemed to be a very personal mission of the one individual who had experienced it and wanted to publish it.
00:34:30I did wish to tell someone about Kong, but whom could I trust?
00:34:34My choice was Joe, a friend whom I occasionally beleaguered with confidences.
00:34:39I asked Joe to meet me one afternoon after work.
00:34:42We walked around drinking a few beers and I tossed a few apples out into the yard, hoping Kong would come out.
00:34:49I could tell Joe was just here to drink my beer and make small talk. He had no other interest.
00:34:55I decided to keep my secret to myself.
00:35:00One afternoon I thought I would try to get Kong's picture as proof. I was sitting on the porch as he chomped down on a few apples.
00:35:10I pulled out the camera slowly from my pocket and Kong immediately got up and walked off.
00:35:16This occurred on several occasions. I could not understand Kong's fear of the metallic objects and so I started to read voraciously in primate behavior.
00:35:26One source by George Schaller and his experiences with gorillas were similar to mine.
00:35:33His books were published by the University of Chicago Press in 1963 and 1974.
00:35:39He states that until the gorillas were thoroughly used to him, he never looked them directly in the eye.
00:35:49Nor did he point a pair of field glass or a camera at them in case they might have interpreted the staring eye or the eye of the camera as a threat.
00:35:57There was no reason for Kong to be threatened around me, so my attempts at taking pictures ended.
00:36:02Well, there's a lot of activity there right now, but it's not being reported again.
00:36:10A lot of people don't want to say nothing to anybody because they think they're goofy.
00:36:14So they don't, you know, they don't really say anything.
00:36:17We've had, we recently had sightings, people talking about sightings of a dog body and human heads.
00:36:26And we got four of them from four different people, so I mean, you know, did they really see that?
00:36:31I mean, again, Bigfoot sightings around there all the time.
00:36:36Well, one of the, we always heard that Paul Johnson was one of the gentlemen who actually wrote the book.
00:36:44We know Paul pretty well. We've known him for, he's a member of our organization.
00:36:47We've known him for probably about 15 years, I think.
00:36:50And he assures us that it wasn't him.
00:36:53Do you think the book was a hoax?
00:36:55I think there was some possible truth to it.
00:37:00But I mean, if you read the whole thing, it, you could look at it as being true and you can look at it as not being true,
00:37:07with every way you want to look at it. I mean.
00:37:09Possibly also with this documentary coming out, maybe if it gets into the hands of more people,
00:37:14you might get a breakthrough and somebody might actually come up to you and say,
00:37:18I actually, I think I know who it was.
00:37:20And they may be able to direct you to where this, where the diggings actually are.
00:37:24So you could be actually helping the, find the truth out by this documentary coming out.
00:37:32Do I think the author had a stable mental health?
00:37:49And the answer is definitely yes. Definitely yes.
00:37:54He started out as a high school teacher and he ended up as a, a part-time teacher in college and then a full-time teacher.
00:38:11And in my association with him, he was perfectly normal and logical.
00:38:20And, uh, we never developed a really firm friendship.
00:38:27But in our association, the only time he got mad was when I challenged, uh, his authenticity.
00:38:37It had been several months of Kong visiting me and eating my apples.
00:38:43I had grown used to him and welcomed every chance to see him.
00:38:47He was probably my best friend and he didn't even know it.
00:38:51In our many hours of just sitting and squatting and looking at each other,
00:38:55there seemed to be no purpose on his part.
00:38:57He seemed to anticipate that I would devise something or do something to give him something.
00:39:02It does not seem strange to me that we would sit and look at each other for hours.
00:39:07The longest Kong and I stared at each other in one stretch was roughly two and a half hours.
00:39:13During one of our staring sessions, Kong did actually move toward me and touched my finger.
00:39:19We touched for a brief moment and he turned back to a squatting spot and ate his apples.
00:39:24He was obviously shy of humans, yet he had made contact with me and seemed to enjoy it.
00:39:29Or at least he kept coming back for more.
00:39:31We traveled north to meet with a group of Bigfoot researchers from Cryptovania.
00:39:43Bigfoot researchers who are on the cutting edge of finding proof that Bigfoot exists.
00:39:48We met with Tommy Cooper and his team for a late night investigation and to get their opinion if the story of the creature was possible.
00:39:57As far as the animal getting used to you becoming sort of like friends type thing?
00:40:06I would never tell anyone not to do it or to do it.
00:40:11Me personally, I don't think it's a good idea though.
00:40:13I think there's a reason we don't have a good relationship with these creatures.
00:40:18And quite frankly, I think in a lot of ways they're a lot smarter than we are.
00:40:24And I don't think that's a relationship that people should seek to get into.
00:40:29I mean, it's something fun and interesting and exhilarating to study.
00:40:35But as far as buddying up with one or with a group, I think it's a bad idea.
00:40:41I think you're asking for trouble, honestly.
00:40:43Kind of like the guy with the brown hermit.
00:40:45Yeah, the grizzly man.
00:40:46Yeah.
00:40:47Yeah.
00:40:48That may or may not have.
00:40:49I don't know.
00:40:50But there's a reason that the stories of the wild men persist all through history.
00:40:56But yet it's still something that's so rare that most people question its existence.
00:41:02The creature, the book that we're really investigating, would you say that that author probably hid his story in that book?
00:41:10Yes.
00:41:11Because there was no internet, you know?
00:41:12Yeah.
00:41:13Yeah.
00:41:14And you had the written word and books and magazines and that was really it.
00:41:19And even then, stuff was, you had to fit your narrative to who was writing the check.
00:41:29Unlike now, if you wanted to put out a book in the 70s and 80s, you really had to fill it with what the editors wanted you to fill it with.
00:41:40And nowadays, anybody can publish a book.
00:41:43I can pick an idea out of the air and write a book about it and have it published on Amazon within a month with very low monetary investment.
00:41:55And that's really freeing.
00:41:57We, we, this was based on, Mountain Devil 2 is based on a book called The Creature.
00:42:03And a lot of people we talked to, or some of the people we talked to say that's ridiculous.
00:42:08There's a lot of fake stuff in there.
00:42:10But, okay, what's your thoughts on, could a real story be wound into a, you know, something that was exaggerated a little bit to make a story?
00:42:19Well, I mean, sure. Cause I mean, like you look at, like a lot of stuff, I mean, it's, it's going to be based on a little bit of truth, but you also want to try to sell a story too.
00:42:29So you got, you got to embellish a little bit and make it sound a little bit bigger than what it was.
00:42:33But I mean, there's gotta be some type of kernel of truth to it too.
00:42:36Like, you know, unless you're one of the, unless you're just like a crazy imaginative person.
00:42:40I mean, to, to come up with a story like that is just like off the, off the bat, like, it's just crazy.
00:42:46There's gotta be something to it.
00:42:48He, he had to have had some type of experience and whatever experience it was, obviously it was pretty, pretty profound to him.
00:42:55But yeah, whether or not it's as, as crazy as what it was, I mean, there's still something.
00:43:02Are we in danger when we go out there looking for what we're looking for?
00:43:06I think the danger is real.
00:43:08Like so many people have said, there are a lot like people.
00:43:12There's good ones. There's bad ones.
00:43:14There might be mating seasons.
00:43:16There might be food shortages.
00:43:18What any number of things might factor into it.
00:43:21But is there, is there legit danger?
00:43:24Yes, there is.
00:43:25I can't say that it's always going to be peace and love.
00:43:29With people coming out with these, these ideas that are against the mainstream.
00:43:35A lot of times you're hesitant to come out with your sightings and your ideas and your experiences.
00:43:43And it really, how can you have accurate data if people are afraid to come forward?
00:43:48And so you, in order, if you want accuracy, you've got to accept all of, all of the phenomenon.
00:43:57You can't just restrict it to the ones that, if, if you only accept things that can be proven right here, right now, you're going to be, you're going to limit yourself.
00:44:07You're going to limit the data that, that, that you have for, for crunching.
00:44:14Do you have a relationship with Bigfoot Northen coming around?
00:44:19Well, I mean, the one guy that we did an interview with, and he came up for the weekend, Greg Yost.
00:44:24I mean, he, he's pretty, like, he's, he has a relationship built with him.
00:44:29Like, it was really kind of wild, because he says that they follow him.
00:44:32And that gets into the whole interdimensional thing, which that might be it.
00:44:36But like, well, we were up on top of the hill, and we started getting this noise.
00:44:40And he started talking to the one that was saying the name of the Bigfoot that he knew.
00:44:46And as soon as he said that name, I mean, it was crazy.
00:44:49There was stuff getting tossed, there was stuff getting, like, running just outside of our view.
00:44:53But it was just crazy how, like, as soon as he said Inky, that was the name of the Bigfoot.
00:44:59As soon as he said that, it was just like, it just lit up with activity around us.
00:45:03And that was pretty crazy. Like, so yeah, I think you can have a relationship with him.
00:45:08I think you've got to be pretty open-minded and just kind of open-heart and just kind of go into it.
00:45:13But yeah, it could also get bad, I think, I feel.
00:45:18I think it's a, I think it's ongoing mystery.
00:45:21And I, I really do think that it's an unknown.
00:45:25It's one of those mysteries in the Bigfoot field that will keep being discussed because it's so compelling.
00:45:32And seems as if, what if it was real?
00:45:36What if it was interaction between a professor and a Bigfoot in the hills of Pennsylvania?
00:45:43That, that would be a pretty remarkable event to document.
00:45:48And let's hope we get more and more, you know, on it.
00:45:53Maybe some relative, maybe some, you know, grandkid of the professor will come forth someday and we'll be able to know more.
00:46:02It had been a few days since I had seen Kong.
00:46:17I was worried due to the hunting season being in effect.
00:46:20Every time I heard a gunshot off in the distance, I was worried it was Kong.
00:46:25But another side of me hoped that he was just resting deep in the forest.
00:46:29My property was connected to Chestnut Ridge by a wide band of forest.
00:46:34Chestnut Ridge is about 16 miles away.
00:46:37As a crow flies, it is entirely forested from the West Virginia border, almost to the northern border of Pennsylvania.
00:46:45It contains Forbes State Forest and Laurel Caverns.
00:46:49I'm hoping Kong lived in some section of the unexplored caverns.
00:46:53No Kong this evening.
00:46:56Perhaps the hunters in the area are keeping him away.
00:46:59I just hope that he is safe.
00:47:04The hunting season had passed and I had high hopes that Kong would return.
00:47:11I got a beer out of the fridge and walked out on the porch and there he was squatting down.
00:47:17He seemed to bit off.
00:47:19No signs that he had been shot by any hunters.
00:47:22I pulled some apples out and tossed them his way, but he had no interest in them.
00:47:26I could tell something was wrong with Kong.
00:47:29Slowly I made my way toward him and he slowly extended his hand.
00:47:45I touched his extended hand and held it a while.
00:47:48He drew it closer to his body and held my hand close to his chest.
00:47:52He closed his eyes.
00:47:55He was obviously ill.
00:47:57I sat with Kong for a few hours before he got up and walked off into the forest.
00:48:01The forest.
00:48:02The forest.
00:48:08The forest.
00:48:09The forest.
00:48:10The forest.
00:48:11The forest.
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00:49:08I do believe that there'd be some sort of a burial because in the few times I've heard the encounters of people that said they actually shot one and dropped it or whatever, they say another one swings and grabs it and skedaddles with it.
00:49:26So I think they do do something with the bodies.
00:49:31But that being said, how many times have you seen a dead bear in the woods?
00:49:35How many times have you seen a dead bobcat or a coyote?
00:49:38Nature's pretty efficient. Bones don't last long. Soft tissue doesn't last long.
00:49:44There's too many things out there looking for a meal.
00:49:47And especially around here, I mean, in a matter of a few short days, everything's going to be gone.
00:49:52I think as a rule, if there was a systematic problem, I think we would already know because I think these things are around us almost a lot of the time when we're in the woods.
00:50:06So if there was a problem, if they were out to get us, I think we would already know as a rule.
00:50:13And I also like to encourage people to come forward and share their experiences without fear of ridicule, without fear of ridicule.
00:50:24Because if we only listen to the brave and the bold, we're just going to, we're not going to get all of the story.
00:50:33And if you are looking for what exactly this is, you have to explore all that phenomenon.
00:50:39And you have to explore the people that have what you might call crazy experiences.
00:50:44And, you know, you have to include that.
00:50:48If you're just picking and choosing, you're not doing any science.
00:50:52You're not even really doing any crunching.
00:50:54You're just building a narrative is kind of how I look at it.
00:50:59Let's talk about gifting. Good idea or bad idea?
00:51:02I mean, I wouldn't be doing it in my backyard.
00:51:05Like, you know, I'd go, like, if you're going to gift it, like, my sister, she was at this party spot.
00:51:11They used to hang out down by a creek or whatever.
00:51:13Well, the one night they had an experience where something came in where they were hanging out.
00:51:17And they all quit going there and hanging out.
00:51:19Well, she started going there just checking, trying to figure out what it was.
00:51:21And she started leaving, like, fruits and vegetables out there.
00:51:24And then, like, she started going there and there's little round rocks and stuff that was getting left on the log in place of the fruits that she was leaving.
00:51:33And, but, yeah, I just told her, like, that's cool, like, out there.
00:51:36But don't be doing that by your house and everything because once you quit, then I think you're pulling in some, you're going to make them mad.
00:51:43You're going to piss them off because they get used to this relationship or whatever that you're building with them.
00:51:47And then you just cut ties and stuff's just going to get bad, I feel.
00:51:54He didn't kill it, but he found it dead and then he buried it.
00:52:15And he felt that, you know, people could claim that he had been involved in the demise of this creature.
00:52:22So, you know, I don't know.
00:52:25It's one of those cases where I have to say I don't know at the end of the day.
00:52:30But I thought it was a possibility was there enough for me to want to pursue it and look at the various details of it.
00:52:40And it was in an area that there had been a lot of tales, folklore, and sightings.
00:52:47So it seemed realistic in that regard, too.
00:52:50Yeah, well, as I as I told you, I believe John Tomicle was the the actual writer of the creature.
00:53:06You know, in looking at some of the things he was in the army in 1952, he was divorced shortly after the first publication of the creature.
00:53:15I think it was around 1975, 76, he got divorced.
00:53:19And the funny thing is, is the way I determined that was true property records.
00:53:23As a private investigator, some of the things one of the things I do is, all right, I don't need to talk to anybody.
00:53:29Let's see if if there is evidence to back up the claim of the book.
00:53:34And in looking at, okay, we know John Tomicle was in the Korean War, we know John Tomicle was an earth science teacher, we know John Tomicle got divorced shortly after the first publication of the book.
00:53:51And then we look at John Clement, John Clement was in the army in, in the in 52, uh, John Clement was an earth science teacher, John Clement got divorced in the 70s, and even more to the fact, uh, was the, uh, was the copyright found at the, uh, Library of Congress, and, uh, the item number was actually, uh, it was A757910, the creature.
00:54:21Several days passed, when I went out to look for Kong, he was nowhere to be found.
00:54:45No evidences indicated his presence at any time since our last encounter.
00:54:49Each evening, I built a fire and had a cold beer.
00:54:53That night in particular was colder than the others.
00:54:56I decided to head inside for the night when I noticed something laying off in the distance.
00:55:01I shined my light on the object, and I was stunned to see Kong lying there.
00:55:07Stood there in a frozen state for several minutes before I tried to test his state.
00:55:12He was dead, and rigor mortis had set in.
00:55:15What to do?
00:55:16My first thought was that I now had evidence of a species to measure and to show it to the public.
00:55:23The horror of the public asking me questions and invading my private life was too much for me.
00:55:29It wasn't fair to Kong, either.
00:55:32My decision was to bury Kong with the idea that I could dig him up if I ever decided to do so, and needed to do so.
00:55:39It was almost impossible to get his body into my vehicle, but I was able to manage with a picnic table and a rope.
00:55:52I grabbed some tools and a shovel and headed toward Wimps Gap and Chestnut Ridge.
00:55:58It was a remote area.
00:55:59I thought about the fact that no dead creatures like him have ever been found.
00:56:11Perhaps I got to him before the others of his kind could gather him up.
00:56:15I should have buried him on my property, where he fell, but at that time I was not thinking as logically as I am now.
00:56:25I should have buried him on my property.
00:56:55I should have buried him on my property.
00:57:25I drove over the ridge through the gap and cut the motor, drifting down the road to where I could stop and do the burial.
00:57:37I tried to drag Kong into the woods, but he was too heavy.
00:57:41There was only one thing I could do.
00:57:43I took out the axe and started cutting him into movable pieces.
00:57:47First his head came off.
00:57:49I moved to his arms and legs next.
00:57:52I was crying uncontrollably the entire time.
00:57:55With the rest of the energy I had left, I dug a grave.
00:57:59The pieces of Kong lay in disarray about me.
00:58:02I stood there for a moment to catch my breath when I noticed a car wheel.
00:58:06The West Virginia-Pennsylvania border is strewn with car parts from the mountain people that live in these isolated areas.
00:58:13I took the wheel with the idea that if I ever wanted to find the gravesite again,
00:58:17all I had to do was bury the wheel with Kong and use my metal detector to find it.
00:58:22I covered him quickly and thought about Kong.
00:58:25My friend.
00:58:26My friend.
00:58:30My friend.
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01:00:44The Creature. I edited The Creature, but I did not write it. The story is the work of Jan Clemon.
01:00:56There was a picnic at a place called Mingo Creek, which is in southwestern Pennsylvania.
01:01:05And I was the kind of the feature there because I had prepared all these edible wild plants, and there were other people involved there.
01:01:21And Jan Clemon showed up.
01:01:24And I started, when we were kind of by ourselves, I started berating him about The Creature and saying, you know, it's unbelievable.
01:01:42And he got quite mad at me, and he said, okay, I'll show you where he's buried.
01:01:55And right away, you know, my eyes, I said, this was going to be it.
01:02:01So we decided to take his truck, and I put my shovel in the back of it, and he was going to let me dig it up.
01:02:12We got out, and we started walking through underbrush.
01:02:22It was multifloral rows, and it was very difficult to get through.
01:02:28And this was three years after the fact.
01:02:33So he said, why don't you go down the right, and I'll go to the left,
01:02:40and you look for a mound of dirt.
01:02:46He said, it shouldn't be hard to find.
01:02:49So I'm scrabbling around, and he's on the other side.
01:02:55And all of a sudden, he hollers, son of a bitch.
01:02:59And I raced over through all kinds of underbrush, and there he was, standing beside a hole in the ground.
01:03:14It was about the size of a bathtub.
01:03:16And I looked at it, and it was full of goldenrod and thistles, but it was a good depression.
01:03:28And then there was a mound of dirt on the other side of it.
01:03:36And I remember he said that he had buried a car wheel or truck wheel with it.
01:03:45So I scraped around, and sure enough, there was a truck wheel there.
01:03:53And that was it.
01:03:57And we rode back in silence, and he was really upset.
01:04:04And we got back to our vehicles, he went his way, and I went mine, and that was that.
01:04:14And we rode back in silence, and he was really upset.
01:04:44To this day, I will not discuss Kong with anyone personally, and even if you, the viewer, should discover who I am,
01:05:02I will refuse to discuss these events with you.
01:05:05Just assume that this is fiction, and not worth legitimate time.
01:05:14Since the first edition of The Creature was published, there have been many phone calls concerning the identity of the author.
01:05:34The publisher has pledged to keep the author anonymous.
01:05:37The only other information that has been provided is that the cabin and its property were sold years ago.
01:05:46In 1986, the cabin was burned to the ground by arsonist.
01:05:51The ruins of the cabin are still there, as well as remnants of the pond.
01:05:56The property is overgrown with weeds and brush.
01:05:59Several very expensive houses have been built in the area, and the present owner has refused to sell to developers.
01:06:08There continues to be sightings of creatures in the area to this day.
01:06:29Only young, by the time I may beient of photo, but the main door is kept on their расскages.
01:06:59In 1976, a book titled The Creature by Jan Klemett was published.
01:07:20A story about a man and his interactions with a Bigfoot creature.
01:07:25For many years, the book was a mystery.
01:07:29Could the book just be an elaborate hoax?
01:07:32Or could the remains of a Bigfoot be buried in the foothills of Pennsylvania?
01:07:55Do not stand away, graven weak.
01:08:02Do not stand away, graven weak.
01:08:09Do not stand away, graven weak.
01:08:16I am not there, I do not sleep.
01:08:22I am not there, I do not sleep.
01:08:31I am a thousand winds that blow.
01:08:39I am the diamond glimpse on the snow.
01:08:49I am the sunlight on ripened rain.
01:08:57I am the gentle autumn rain.
01:09:06When you waken in the morning hush.
01:09:14I am the swift, uplifting rush.
01:09:23Of quiet birds in circle flight.
01:09:32I am the soft stars that shine at night.
01:09:41Do not stand on my graven cry.
01:09:49I am not there, I did not die.
01:09:56I am theAF dissercios of the archivist.
01:09:57I am the mountain.
01:10:11So as you can in the snow, you !
01:10:14Get around!
01:10:15травm pants this...
01:10:18You are the buenos for holy öğretches.
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