00:00The early reporting is Stephen Ross, the owner of the Miami Dolphins, went through the process of
00:06after the season debriefing, sitting down with Mike McDaniel, took some time to ruminate,
00:10which is the part where I raise eyebrows, but then decided ultimately to part ways
00:14with Mike McDaniel. You could read that as him just having a less accelerated
00:21process of evaluating his head coach, unlike some other coaches like Atlanta,
00:29where the Blank family fired Raheem Morris and Terry Fondno the day the season ended,
00:35or you could look at this in the way that I think we both are, which is a big fish just hit the pond,
00:41and we kind of are interested in that, especially since we're not sold completely on Mike McDaniel.
00:46Well, seven jobs open, and now an eighth.
00:51And now an eighth, so basically a quarter of the NFL.
00:54Not basically, that is a quarter.
00:55And of course, you know, like most people, you say, well, how does this affect me?
01:02And I think...
01:03Nick Caley, watch your back, buddy.
01:05Not Nick Caley, Matt Burke.
01:08He's going to interview.
01:09He's going to interview in a lot of places.
01:11I hadn't gone to that place, but that's a good one.
01:13And his name has not popped up yet.
01:15Now, obviously, I think there's a lot of coaches for whom, you know, are coordinators that have not necessarily gotten that shout yet.
01:22The likes of, you know, Chris Shula, Brian Flores.
01:24Those guys are actually not Flores.
01:26Flores is available.
01:27But yeah.
01:27And playoff mode, though.
01:29So that could be a reason, too.
01:30So yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying, is that they have not been added to the pool of names that are floating around early.
01:36I hadn't considered the idea that that's another, I guess, opportunity for Matt Burke to possibly be taken away from this spot.
01:43And he is going to be interviewed already reportedly several places.
01:46Tennessee, I believe, is one.
01:48Maybe another...
01:49I got to pull up the track.
01:50Can I be honest?
01:51It's head spinning.
01:52I'm so bad at keeping these things straight when there is, oh, well, they're talking about him and he has interviews on Thursday with this team and Friday with that team and then Sunday with this...
02:01I have a horrible time trying to keep those straight.
02:06So I appreciate that CBS Sports has an active tracker.
02:09But even beyond that, this is where I'm going with it.
02:11And it would be good for them, but it definitely affects the Texans.
02:1525% of the jobs are open, right?
02:18And Matt Burke is going to be interviewed.
02:20Just by doing the math, he's going to have a better chance now than he did an hour ago of, you know, being looked at for one of these jobs.
02:28Sure.
02:28Beyond that, why is this offense all of a sudden, you know, why does it have a life all of a sudden?
02:34We keep going back to...
02:36Two guys, Gerard Johnson.
02:38Those are offensive coordinators for many potential head coaching candidates.
02:43But if Matt Burke gets a job, you don't think he's going to look at those two dudes?
02:47That is a great point, specifically the correlation that he has.
02:50I think also there's an argument to be made that with a lot of the defensive head coach possibilities, that is what it looks like.
02:58The more polished, the more interesting defensive or head coaching candidates seem to be on the defensive side.
03:05And when you do that, it is incumbent upon them to come side saddle with them with a offense coordinator that they believe in.
03:13And these guys have had some tentacles around the league, even if they are here in Houston right now.
03:18Well, I mean, D'Amico Ryans did it.
03:20D'Amico Ryans was a defensive coordinator in San Francisco.
03:23D'Amico, who does he bring immediately?
03:26Oh, yeah.
03:27I guess he was an offensive assistant or was he a coordinator already?
03:29Anyway, no, I think he was an offensive assistant.
03:32He brings Bobby Slowick.
03:34Now, it didn't work out.
03:35But what I'm saying is Nick Kaley here has been helped a lot by Ben McDaniels and Gerard Johnson.
03:41Now, again, I would be very happy that they get these jobs, but it does affect the Houston Texans.
03:46Without question.
03:46Without question.
03:47The possibility of being rated year over year is one of those things that you kind of need to, you know, bake into the cost of doing business when you are a good football team.
03:57And in a kind of fortunate way, early on, you've not had that or had to succumb to that just yet.
04:04It looks like you might be on the doorstep of that, especially as you add another one to the pool.
04:09Of course, the place where I think a lot of people's minds have gone is just Mike McDaniel is a hot name if you're talking about the potato.
04:17And for him in particular, I don't think that he exists in the plane of Kevin Stefanski, where you get fired and I think you're immediately available to turn back around and get another job.
04:29I think that he would need the block to cool down on his name, spending a year out and maybe getting another opportunity.
04:35And maybe that's even outside of the realm because of his particular personality and the way that he presents.
04:40Maybe that hampers him from getting another job as a head coach.
04:44If he is willing, that is a very, very interesting offensive coordinator name.
04:49And of course, as I've said, somewhat in the context of a head coaching job search, there's not a lot of offensive guys out there.
04:56And so, I mean, we're seeing the likes of quarterbacks coaches getting head coaching looks because teams want to get a feel for what the offensive side of the football looks like for head coaching options.
05:06Doesn't that also cut into the offensive coordinator ranks possibilities?
05:10Not saying that you are definitively not going to have Nick Caley here, but God forbid and knock on wood, should something go wrong on Monday and you lose this game, especially with if offense doesn't look like it.
05:22We're going to be talking about it.
05:23And I have no idea what that building operates like.
05:26There's been a lot of we all operate together, so to say.
05:29But there's been instances this season where D'Amico Ryans has at least kind of projected that things need to change on offense and how much of that is temporary and how much of that factors into an end of year evaluation where maybe he goes, what we have at the offense isn't good enough.
05:43I actually, I think that's a possibility, but I think it's a more of a remote possibility than you do.
05:48And the reason is Nick Casario and, for that matter, D'Amico Ryans, what Nick Caley brings to the table is exactly the template, whatever you want to call it, that they like in terms of how they like to operate football.
06:01What I'm saying is I think Nick Caley is going to have some job security no matter what happens Monday night.
06:06But Nick Caley is going to be less equipped to help C.J. Stroud kind of embrace this offense and incorporate some passing schemes and concepts without either or or both of Ben McDaniels and Gerard Johnson.
06:22Those two guys have been huge.
06:23So I think they're going to stay with Nick Caley.
06:25My big worry is one or both of those guys goes.
06:29And again, you know I'd be very happy about it.
06:31But if one of those, as a Texas fan, if one of those two guys or both of those guys goes, Nick Caley all of a sudden might have to take, you know, he might take a step back.
06:39Because his concepts and I guess the amount he knows about the passing game has been bolstered by them.
06:46Certainly.
06:47And that's what a staff is there for in any circumstance.
06:50I think that would it be fair to say that the fan tendency to go, oh, Mike McDaniel or another hot name out there offensive coordinator wise isn't where I should be if and we're ahead of our skis.
07:04We got playoff football to worry about.
07:07And I recognize that in the rest of the show.
07:09We're going to be talking a lot about that.
07:10But if you get to that point at the end of the season where the hypothetical we've set up is there where maybe Matt Burke gets a job and that that he that eats into your offensive staff because one of those guys that's been helpful knows.
07:22Is it maybe more important to look at who does Nick Caley look to to add on to his staff?
07:28One of these, you know, a position coach somewhere that has upside.
07:33Yeah.
07:33Maybe not even specifically someone like you didn't ski.
07:37Maybe even from within.
07:38Maybe that's a hire from within.
07:39But the reason why I'm thinking outside is someone that comes in and brings a fresh set of ideas because that collaborative effort seems to very much helped him over the course of the season.
07:48Absolutely.
07:49I think that's a possibility.
07:50When it comes to Mike McDaniel, though, he has a relationship with D'Amico Ryan.
07:55He does.
07:56He's part of that whole Shanahan.
07:58He's coached here.
07:59Yeah.
08:00He knows.
08:01Again, with all of the principles in that Shanahan McVay kind of triangle and triangle is not.
08:06He has that Kubiak connection, which that name is.
08:08The name, you know, carries some weight in this town.
08:10He knows the McNairs.
08:12All that said, I don't think he fits Casario and D'Amico in terms of their approach.
08:18Now, if he wants to come in and take a step back, not just as a coordinator, but as maybe a quarterback's coach.
08:23I don't think that's going to happen.
08:25Yeah.
08:26That ain't going to happen.
08:28Then maybe.
08:29But no, it's going to be someone else that can maybe bolster that, that, uh, the passing game.
08:32And I mean, one of the things that we have jumped over in the hypothetical we've set up and we're doing all of this because, you know, the breaking news of this morning is that Mike McDaniel is actually the, the, the dolphins have moved on from him as head coach.
08:45So they become the eighth team with an open, a head coaching opening in this particular cycle.
08:50As of yet.
08:50Um, one of the things that we haven't talked about is if you do end up in this hypothetical where you're either dealing with looking for a new OC, uh, well, actually let's go with the possibility that you look for a new OC.
09:02I don't believe that'll happen.
09:03Honestly, I think there's a small percent chance of that.
09:05How much would you want to end up in a place or even making the decision on whether you want a new OC?
09:10The idea of going to a third offense coordinator in four years, the idea of also not just doing that, but going to another.
09:15There are going to be a system that's very, you know, very different that you probably need to gear your offensive line towards again.
09:24Like there's a lot of different considerations outside of just who is calling those plays and how effective they are.
09:29Yeah, that, that, that's a big thing for, um, what are you doing to your quarterback, man?
09:33You know, that, that, that's the number one thing, new terminology, new offensive lineman, to be honest, you know, offensive line that would maybe fit a different scheme.
09:40Right.
09:41You know, you're, you're, you're not just changing quarter.
09:42You're changing personnel without question, you know?
09:44So that's why I don't see it happening, but even just changing to a third offensive coordinator that kind of fits this personnel is still a problem.
09:54It's still new terminology.
09:55It's still, you know, some issues for, uh, uh, for, for CJ Stroud.
10:00It's still kind of holding back CJ Stroud strengths as a quarterback.
10:03Yeah.
10:03And I see you, uh, many of you on the text line with all sorts of different opinions though.
10:07I appreciate you guys sending in eight through two says we have an opportunity to be great and are stuck on mid.
10:12That's what I'm afraid of unlock Stroud.
10:14And that's, those are, those are the bouncing.
10:17Those are all the considerations that you have to make that since the beginning.
10:20Without question.
10:21It's one, it's one of the frustrations that happens when you, when you make that a offensive
10:25higher unlock Stroud.
10:26I like that.
10:27And that's kind of the, and this is the part I hate because you, of course you want to win.
10:31That's the ultimate goal.
10:32But sometimes the winning can cover up the real issue.
10:36And so if they win it, of course, they're not going to fire the OC.
10:39Hell, does that not all, does that not feel like what you're, at least what they feel like
10:43they're dealing with across the way in Pittsburgh.
10:45The idea that the continual winning that Mike Tomlin will do not being able to have a sub
10:50500 season has been a little bit of a deodorizer for the stink of not being able to really have
10:58things that really lead you to a, to championship.
11:00And that's why a lot of people might get people like the Ravens a hard time for letting go of
11:05their coach, but it's like, man, we want to be better than just getting to the playoffs
11:09and getting knocked out.
11:10Yeah.
11:11We want to be better than this.
11:12It's, it's, it's the mediocrity treadmill, right?
11:14That you, you want to avoid.
11:15It's the Cincinnati is the, uh, who was the coach that was at Cincinnati?
11:19Marvin Lewis.
11:20That whole, just staying there.
11:22Hell, it's Mike Tomlin.
11:23Getting to the, yeah.
11:24What do they call him now?
11:25And we'll hear about it.
11:26A mediocre Mike.
11:27That is what they would call him.
11:28I mean, yeah.
11:29I think he could kind of hold on to, uh, we, I won a Superbow or got to a Superbow,
11:33but you don't want to be Marvin Lewis where you just, you know, always win the division
11:39and get bounced out in the first round.
11:41Marvin Lewis is a fun one because I actually, I am way higher on Marvin Lewis than I think
11:44the average person is.
11:45No time for that right now.
11:46Yeah.
11:46I know it's the Cincinnati Bengals, but man.
11:48That is big.
11:49And I think you guys know, I have quite a disdain for the way that they operate.
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