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Warner Bros. Rejects Latest Paramount Bid
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There's a lot in the sort of structure of the deal that the Warner Brothers Discovery Board
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points out. A lot of it has to do with the debt load of the Paramount deal. There's something
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interesting in it that I wanted to pick out, which is we don't agree how valuable cable networks are.
00:14
So the street and the investors would say, actually, they're much more valuable than
00:18
you're giving them credit for. Paramount Skydance would say in our $30 a share offer,
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we don't think they're valuable. Therefore, the $30 a share offer is a great premium because we
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want the whole thing. How do we value those networks? Gosh, was that a great question? I
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mean, it really is a difficult thing to manage at this moment. We're talking about a really big
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shift in the ecosystem, right? We've had these traditional channels around broadcast cable
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that have been almost cash cows for these businesses for a long time. Then the shift of
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streaming and the ability to build those businesses with lower margins, right? But now we're seeing
00:50
with price increases, advertising dollars moving in, that it's actually a great value. And now a
00:56
huge shift into this creator economy and thinking about short-term content. And then you have to
01:00
evaluate those assets against those big shifts in the ecosystem. They still have value. They still
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spin off cash. They still can be the home for reach and advertising. But the real value has shifted.
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The advertising dollars have shifted in a new direction. Paul, I'm going to remind our audience
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of the state of play, because in a deal like this, you get some fatigue. But Netflix is basically saying,
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we want the streaming business and the studios. We'll spin out the legacy networks.
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Paramount Skydance wants the whole enchilada. In your mind, which result would make most sense
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for the consumer, you know, and what they would actually use those platforms for?
01:33
Sure. Well, listen, I think that there's absolute value for the consumer and for the shareholders,
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most certainly in a Netflix, Warner Brothers combination, right? You have superior storytelling
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capabilities coming from the HBO Max and the Warner legacy in their entire library,
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coupled with what is superior tech. Netflix has led the industry in personalization,
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in driving new features, right, and algorithms. That combination is certainly unique. Now,
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does that mean that's the best consumer? I don't know. Does the storytelling capabilities that are
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combined with Paramount, coupled with Warner, deliver more value into the ecosystem in general
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and for consumers overall who get great enjoyment out of those stories? That's a difficult equation to
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value. But I can most certainly see there's value in the greatest tech and greatest storytellers coming
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together. Well, perhaps there isn't value for for consumers right now is three companies getting
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caught up in a lot of admin and fighting and regulatory discussions rather than focusing on the
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business and innovating. How much is that a risk? This I think this is the biggest risk of any big
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transaction in M&A activity, right? The focus becomes how do these companies potentially come
02:36
together? Everybody internally thinks about what is my role in this transition? And no one's focused on
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the fact that they're competing with an ecosystem that is evolving around them, right? We saw that
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social media platforms are taking over not only viewership, but total ad dollars this year.
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There is a huge shift into the creator economy. And if you're just focused on how do we put these
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two companies together versus the competition that is outpacing you with TikTok and YouTube and others,
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you're going to be further behind by the time you complete this transaction. And we haven't even
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discussed AI yet. That's right. And you think about the big deal that was announced between Sora,
03:09
so Disney and OpenAI at the tail end of last year. What is my viewing experience going to be like
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going forward when I turn on Disney Plus? What does it look like as a screen?
03:19
So I think this is going to be the biggest piece of innovation we see in 2026. So AI for the last
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year has been about doing discrete projects. How do I create a vertical video? How do I think about
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leveraging it to help improve the algorithm? But what we've really got to be focusing on today,
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is how do we think about the entire ecosystem? I'm playing in multiple universes. What is that
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consumer experience like? I believe this year, instead of when you download the app and you hit
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a wall, it says pay now, you'll see in the future people pushing short form content as a way to
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discover, it's a way to engage consumers, a new way to engage a conversation. That data from there
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begins to inform how I get a cold start. So how do I, when I first go into that experience,
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how is it customized for me? How do I ensure that I'm going to be able to retain that consumer?
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Then all of those interactions over time also become part of this greater ecosystem that says,
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now I know what to serve you, how to engage you, how to retain you, and how to reach you on other
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platforms. And that's really when we begin to think about the value of what AI can deliver when
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it's managed as an ecosystem. We've talked a lot about chips and robots and consumer gadgets.
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I think it would be really helpful to give your kind of media and entertainment experience of what
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it's been like at CES. Very conscious, a lot of the advertisers are here, very conscious that
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actually the mode in which you consume that content is on display. What has it been like for you?
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Yes, for us, as discussed a little bit earlier, it used to be very discreet investments that we were
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seeing across the AI spectrum. I think today people are thinking about how do I look at AI as
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foundational to the way I operate with my technology and with my consumers. And that's the big shift, I
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think, in the mindset. And now they're coming to us and looking for solutions at scale at huge
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enterprise across multiple ecosystems. That's been the big shift for us.
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We probably should have done this at the start, for which I apologize, but just what is Quickplay?
05:08
Yeah. Yeah. Give us the Quickplay sum.
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Absolutely. So we're at a company that basically builds out white label OTT services, so over-the-top
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television services, all the back end, everything from ingest to the time it ends up on your device.
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And where we have pivoted, right, is how to actually enable that through AI. How do you leverage those AI
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tools to ensure not only can I create short form out of long form, respond to social signals that
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are happening in the universe to be able to say, hey, there's a conversation happening around bad
05:34
bunny appearing on SNL. How do we participate in that conversation with our content to drive new
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engagement, to drive new retention strategies, to drive new acquisition strategies? But we're also
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thinking about that entire data fabric to create those experiences that are hyper-personalized.
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