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00:00I want my half of the house to go to Jenny.
00:04I'm not sure it was a major change of mind.
00:06Anyone need another cup?
00:07The Metropolitan Police today released details of a macabre discovery made in East London.
00:13Matthew was no sane. He had half a dozen convictions.
00:15In that car were four probationers going by the names Dean, Fiona, Liz and Rahm.
00:20I want to know if any of them are still serving coppers, because if they are, that's going to be very interesting.
00:24I might be back a bit late tonight.
00:26I'm going to go for a run, put some of this stress off.
00:28Going for the top job under the circumstances. Walls of steel.
00:33Fundraising feels a lot realer than aircon system.
00:36If you ask me for one single thing more, I will make you regret it. Debt paid.
00:40DC Collier will need to go through everything you removed from the house. Why?
00:43Because the body we found in this freezer was not whole.
00:45We might have a connection. She said he was Asian.
00:48What's the story with you and Lucy Miles? She's been saying you were inappropriate with her.
00:52If she makes it formal, I'll destroy her.
00:54What are you implying?
00:55Take him out for a beer. Try and get a sense of whether she is manipulating him or not.
00:58A small bit of me wants to punish someone.
01:00If you see it getting in the way at any point, call me out on it.
01:03Call me out on it.
01:07All we do is hide away
01:18All we do is, all we do is hide away
01:22All we do is lie and wait
01:25All we do is, all we do is lie and wait
01:30I've been upside down
01:34I don't wanna be the right way around
01:38Can't find paradise on the ground
02:04Hey love
02:14Hey
02:15You okay?
02:17Yeah, just feeling really snotty
02:20I think they wouldn't call in sick
02:22Oh no, poor you
02:24You had some cold and flu?
02:26Sure, we've got some here somewhere
02:29And why we're not just sticking this on Fogarty?
02:36The body was stored in his house for Christ's sakes
02:38Because four police officers might also be involved
02:41But either way, the suspects who are actually alive
02:45Don't seem the best route to the truth to me
02:49Maybe you disagree
02:54I'll give you 48 hours to find something concrete
02:56Suggesting that it wasn't him
02:59Well that's what I will go with
03:01The cause of death and the rest of the body
03:03Would be quite a good start
03:06Hello sir
03:16Morning
03:17I came to find you in your office
03:18But they said you were agile working today
03:20I'm just feeling a bit battered after the other day
03:25So catching up on some paperwork from home
03:29No problem
03:30Take it easy for a few days
03:32Get your strength back
03:34You're gonna need it
03:36I'm sorry?
03:37So you didn't hear this from me
03:39But I just got out of a meeting with the selection panel
03:41You walked it, Lizzie
03:43The chair will call this afternoon
03:45But the post is yours
03:47That's brilliant, sir
03:55Right, so she sees the car
03:57Stop about here
03:59And a man we think is our victim, Matthew Walsh
04:02Roughly here
04:03Roughly here
04:04She then sees an Asian male
04:06Get out of the car
04:07And run in the direction of our victim
04:09Towards the Heaver Fields estate
04:11Here
04:12Any description of the car?
04:13No
04:14Did she hear anything?
04:15Any shouts from either man?
04:16No, but she's quite a way away
04:18So there could have been shouts
04:19She just didn't hear them
04:20She didn't see anyone else get out?
04:22No, but then as this is happening
04:23She turns immediately left
04:25Here, heading away from the incident
04:27And home to her flat
04:28So they could have all got out
04:29She just didn't see that
04:31It's not clean
04:32Okay, thank you, Fran
04:33Very good work
04:34So our imperative is obviously to find out exactly what did happen that night
04:41And right now I mainly have lots of questions
04:44So if this was Fogarty's car
04:47Why did it stop?
04:49Why did one of them, at least
04:52Possibly Ram Sidhu
04:54Then get out
04:55What might the connection have been with Matthew and anyone in the car?
04:59Where did Matthew end up?
05:00And ultimately where, how and why did he die?
05:03Was it an accident?
05:04Was it manslaughter?
05:05Was it murder?
05:06And whatever it was
05:07How many people in the car, if any, were involved in his death?
05:11So Fran, can you speak to the other two original witnesses as soon as please?
05:16Murray, Matthew's son, Jerome, just drop these off for us
05:21They're from Matthew's older brother, Clive
05:25And there's return addresses on some of them
05:27I'd love to track him down, please
05:29And Jake, locating the rest of the victim is almost certainly our best chance of establishing cause of death
05:35I've got the super doubting this even is a murder
05:37I need progress, mate
05:38I'm heading straight up to the lab after this to chase on the key fobs
05:41Okay, will you make this your number one priority?
05:43Go
05:44Kaz, do a career history with AHR on all four of these names, please
05:50Link in with professional standards and then maybe do a general PND trial
05:55Yeah, got it
05:56And welcome back, by the way
05:58Thank you
05:59DI Khan and I are going to try and speak today with Liz Beldon and Fiona Grayson
06:03And then do the other two tomorrow
06:05But we need some purchase on this pretty fast
06:07Or it dies
06:09Thank you
06:11Oh hi there, this is Fiona Grayson, I came in yesterday with my partner Geoff Tomlinson to sign all the exchange forms
06:19Oh yes, hello Miss Grayson
06:21Hi, yeah, I was just wondering, has the money actually gone through yet? The deposit, has it been drawn down?
06:28I'm not sure if it's been actioned yet, I can certainly check for you
06:33If you could please, and if it hasn't, could you stop it?
06:37I'm sorry?
06:38I need you to stop the payment if you can
06:41We have a personal situation here and yeah, I need a day or so to sort it out
06:48Right, well, let me see you first if it has already gone and then I'll call you right back
06:54Would you? Thank you, ASAP please
07:01One other thing, let's get an authority for mobile phone records
07:05Because if they've seen the news about Walsh's body being found, it would be interesting to know if any of them have tried to make contact with each other
07:10Yep, okay, no problem
07:11We're moving house, you need tomorrow off, which is why you booked it
07:17Six bloody weeks ago
07:19I know, I know, it's just that we're so short handed right now
07:23But listen, I'll call the removals company, get them to an extra guy on it
07:27I'll try to get off by four
07:29Four? Marvellous
07:31Yeah, welcome to my world
07:33Look, I gotta go
07:34I'll call you later, sorry again, I love you
07:38Oh, that is brilliant news, thank you
07:40I can't tell you how much we appreciate it
07:43Oh yeah, well we look forward to seeing you too
07:47Then tell them to bring their wallets
07:50Thank you
07:51Thanks, bye
07:54I have just sold the last table to Terry Fuller for whack
07:59And he's bringing a load of his brokers
08:01That is brilliant news, love
08:03Well done
08:04Did you hear that?
08:05No
08:06It's gonna be everybody
08:07Do you wanna help me with this?
08:08Yeah
08:09Oh, come on then
08:10Gonna straighten it up
08:11Yeah
08:12Hey Fiona, it's Mark
08:13Listen, I just had a call from your solicitor
08:16Slightly freaked out, I mean
08:17Please tell me you misunderstood
08:18It says you wanted to withhold your deposit
08:20Yeah
08:21What the fuck, why?
08:23Has it been paid?
08:24Yeah, it went out last night
08:25Look, what the hell's going on, is there a problem?
08:26Okay, um
08:27Do not tell your brother this but
08:28Can I come and see you?
08:29Fiona
08:30Please Mark
08:31Well, I'm in meetings until six, can it wait until then?
08:44Yeah
08:45Actually, you know what, my last appointment's near on my flat
08:48Can you meet me there at 6.30?
08:51I'll see you then
08:52Okay
09:01Lucy
09:12You can do my boss
09:15I've got a proposition for you
09:16Piss off
09:17A financial proposition
09:26Elizabeth
09:27Sorry Eugenia, I haven't had time to think about your money
09:34Right, it's just that
09:36My mother has asked, could you not bring your daughter to work with you?
09:39She says she makes quite a lot of noise
09:42I'm sorry, it's an insert day and childcare is very expensive, which is why I really need
09:48Please Eugenia
09:49It's not a brilliant time, as you can probably see
09:54I will come back to you in a day or so
10:00Of course
10:04Thank you
10:24So, as I said briefly, at the door, ma'am
10:40Liz, please
10:42Liz, thank you
10:44As I said at the door, we're investigating what we believe to be an historic murder
10:48You believe?
10:49We're still waiting for a cause of death to be completely confirmed
10:52Oh, okay
10:53But we think, we hope, you might be able to help throw some light on the events of an evening connected to the victim's death 30 years ago
11:03Oh, wow
11:04Yeah, I know
11:05I can hardly remember what I have for breakfast, but let's see how we get on shall we?
11:09Yep, fire away
11:10So, a few days ago, we found a body
11:15We've identified the victim as a Matthew Kieran Walsh, who actually went missing in 1990
11:21His body was completely preserved when we found it, and we've subsequently found evidence to confirm that he'd been kept in a freezer for the last three decades
11:31I think I saw this on the news last night
11:33Yes, you would have done
11:35Um
11:36So...
11:38This is him
11:43Okay
11:46Face doesn't ring any bells
11:48Other than last night, no, should it?
11:50No, no, that's fine
11:52Thank you for that
11:54So then, um, we connected the victim to the house of a man called, um, Robert Fogarty
12:01Mm-hmm
12:02And we believe it was him who stored the body all those years
12:06And I wondered if his face was at all familiar
12:09Nope, sorry
12:15So, Mr Fogarty is himself now dead, um
12:19But we have fairly good reason to believe that at some point on the night of the 30th of March 1990
12:26Mr Fogarty had Matthew Walsh's body in the boot of his car
12:32Oh, right
12:33And the reason I ask if his face is at all familiar is that, um
12:39Mr Fogarty was actually a police probationer
12:42And we believe trained with you at Hendon
12:45A probationer?
12:46And trained with you
12:47So, would you mind having another look?
12:50Mm-hmm
12:54No, I'm so sorry, I don't remember him
12:57Not a problem
13:00And so, uh, that then just leaves
13:03Yeah, the actual car journey that, um, Mr Fogarty made that evening
13:07Right
13:08Which is mainly what I wanted to try to get some further details on
13:11Because we do also have good evidence, Liz, to suggest that, uh, Fogarty wasn't alone
13:18That night in his car
13:20And that he had four other probationers from Hendon with him
13:23Um, one of them
13:26It's...
13:27It's...
13:28It was you
13:31Whoa
13:37What is this?
13:38I thought I was being interviewed as a possible witness
13:44Um...
13:46I mean, this sounds like...
13:49Am I a suspect here?
13:51Absolutely not
13:52As I say, we're just trying to establish a chain of events
13:55And if you'd prefer, I can send it through to professional standards to interview you more formally
14:01At a station, under caution
14:04I'm very happy to do that
14:05I just assumed that might be, uh, difficult for you
14:11But it's...
14:12Your call entirely
14:22Yeah
14:23I do vaguely remember him
14:25Okay
14:26Er, so he was a friend, or...?
14:27No, I just remember him
14:29Okay
14:30So, as a place you recall from the course
14:32Yeah
14:33Yeah
14:35And, er, what...
14:37Thank you
14:38Was it a close-knit bunch, would you say?
14:40Why would you ask that?
14:41Just...
14:42Have you kept in touch with any of them since?
14:45I'm presuming you know I didn't stay with the police very long
14:48Yes
14:49Then why would you ask that?
14:51Unless, of course, you're trying to catch me out or something
14:53Yeah, sorry, I'm absolutely not trying to...
14:55No, it wasn't a close-knit bunch, not for me anyway
14:57And, no, I haven't kept in touch with any of them
15:00Okay
15:01Um, so not withstanding that, could I, er, just run a few other names?
15:06What's this got to do with your murder?
15:07It's just three names, take ten seconds
15:10Fine
15:12Dean Barton?
15:13No
15:15Ram Sidhu?
15:16Er...
15:18Vaguely
15:19There was a...
15:20A Sikh lad, I think
15:22Mm-hmm
15:23And Liz Balden?
15:24No
15:25Well, there you go
15:26Two out of four
15:27Obviously made a greater impression on you than you thought
15:29Er...
15:30So, Fiona, I'd like to, if I may
15:32To try and take you back to the night of your passing out party
15:35Well, obviously I remember Ram, I remember training with him
15:42And I know he's done good work since in Vice, I believe
15:47Mm-hmm
15:48But I have no recollection of any car journey with him or any of those other names
15:52I mean, I'm not saying it didn't happen, I just don't remember that
15:5730 years later
16:00Mm-hmm
16:01And not even when Mr. Fogarty got pulled over and arrested for drink driving
16:06Drink driving?
16:07Wrathalized and arrested
16:09Lost his entire career on the evening of the same day it started
16:12You know, I would have thought that might have, um, stuck in your mind
16:15Oh, okay, now you mention that
16:20Yes
16:23Sorry, I do remember now
16:25Oh, okay
16:26Well, that's excellent
16:28Apologies
16:29Until you said the breath test thing, I had no memory of it at all
16:33Mm-hmm
16:34Not a problem
16:35It was a long time ago
16:36Were we coming back from the actual passing out party?
16:39We think so, yes
16:40I'm getting there now
16:42I think it was actually me that drove Rob's car back after he was nicked
16:48It was
16:50The traffic officer made a note of your request to do that
16:54That's
16:55That's
16:56Well remembered
16:57Yes, because I was fully comp
16:58I lived near Rob
16:59So I dropped the others off
17:01And then I dropped his car back at his place
17:04Hmm
17:05I walked home
17:06Oh
17:07Okay
17:08Uh
17:10Anything else
17:11Coming back?
17:12No, I don't think so
17:13Nothing about the mood of anyone in the car?
17:15No
17:16No
17:17No recollection of the car stopping at any point before it was pulled over?
17:20No
17:21No recollection of anyone getting out at any other point?
17:23No recollection of anyone getting out and loading a dead body in the boot?
17:27That's what you mean?
17:29I think that would have stuck
17:33Yeah, I'm sure
17:34Ha ha
17:36Okay, well
17:37Yeah, I think that's it
17:40That's been really useful
17:43Thank you so much for that
17:46You're good
17:47Sorry?
17:49Nothing
17:50I'll show you that
18:15Can I hover in here now?
18:17Oh
18:19Yes
18:23And see what she wants
18:30I think we talk Friday about my money
18:38I'm sorry
18:39I don't remember any of what you describe
18:42Quite an unusual night, wouldn't you say?
18:44Quite
18:45Memorable
18:47Under normal circumstances, yes
18:49How do you mean?
18:56My father was a police officer
18:59His father too
19:01And
19:03Dad always said
19:05The day I qualified
19:07Was the happiest day of his life
19:12The only problem was I absolutely hated it
19:14And
19:17It wasn't a surprise
19:18I always knew I'd hate it
19:20I always knew I wasn't copper material
19:22But I adored my father
19:24So
19:26Anyway
19:28Long before
19:30I got the letter confirming my application
19:33I began to drink
19:34I began to drink
19:35And then when I started the actual training
19:37I began to drink more
19:39In fact, I was astonished they didn't kick me out
19:42Um
19:44So that day
19:46The day of the ceremony
19:48As soon as all the guests had left
19:51I just
19:53Went for it
19:54Pouring anything I could find down my throat
19:58To bury the unhappiness
20:00And I didn't stop for about three more years
20:03So
20:05I remember
20:07Nothing about that night
20:09And not much about the next few years to be honest
20:13My father died
20:15In the summer of 91
20:16After a long illness
20:17And
20:19I was able to leave
20:20Without feeling that I'd let him down
20:22And it was only then that I began to get better
20:26So yes, of course
20:28I should be able to remember
20:30What you describe
20:34But I'm sorry
20:36I don't
20:39Okay
20:40I'd like to show you a photo of the victim
20:44Matthew Walsh
20:56No
20:58Nothing
21:00Sorry
21:03No problem
21:04Thanks for your time
21:11Yeah
21:12Don't worry about knocking
21:14So
21:15We
21:17Are not having this conversation
21:18We're not having it
21:19Because
21:20As ever
21:21When I'm accused of something I didn't do
21:22When I'm not given the same benefit of the doubt
21:23As a white
21:24And maybe less fucking irritating officer would be
21:27I have to employ unconventional methods to reveal the truth
21:30Our temp
21:32Lucy Myers
21:33Is also it turns out
21:34The cousin of a scabby little prick called Tommy Monroe
21:36A fully paid up member of the EDF
21:39Who I had the very good fortune of sending down last year
21:42For importing 20 keys of Columbia and Flake
21:44Now
21:46I think it's fair to say me and him didn't really hit it off
21:49But if what his cousin said to me this morning is any clue
21:53I think Juicy Lucy shares a few of his political inclinations
21:55If they made me quit
21:56You fucking pack your flat
21:57Get out of my house
21:58Or I'll get my brothers round here
21:59Hello
22:00Hey love
22:01It's me
22:02I'm on my way home
22:03And I wanted to say I'm so sorry
22:04I've not been around
22:05I really did have a serious work issue
22:06But it's resolved now
22:07So
22:08Can we talk?
22:10Yeah, of course
22:12Yeah, a bit flaky and weird
22:13I mean she's never even told her partners she'd been a copper
22:15Serious?
22:16But I keep coming back to the fact that
22:17We don't have any real connection yet
22:18Between Walsh and the other four
22:19At the moment
22:20Well, obviously there's no more
22:21So
22:22No, no
22:24No
22:25No
22:26No
22:27No
22:28No
22:29No
22:31No
22:32No
22:33No
22:34No
22:35No
22:36No
22:37No
22:38No
22:39No
22:40No
22:41another two to speak to but we don't even know if Walsh was killed that night
22:45just he wasn't seen again you think he could have died after the last sighting
22:50but my point is that we don't know I mean all we've got that's specific to
22:53that night is a sighting of a car possibly Fogarty's and a man possibly
22:58Sidhu getting out and heading in the same direction as another man possibly
23:01Walsh but was it a chase maybe I just want to be sure given everything that
23:05you said that we're not heading down a rabbit hole
23:09I've got Jake calling let's talk after we've interviewed the other two
23:14cool night Sonny night boss hey Jake what's up so we were able to illuminate
23:21writing on six of the fobs we had a garden gate spare room two padlocks cellar and
23:27then one that just said SSS now on the off chance I googled storage facilities in a
23:32five-mile radius of property's house and guess what less than half a mile away is
23:36a facility called stow safe sound have you called them shut up for the night now
23:41but I've got to be with a shower there haven't we boss
23:46I fucked up yeah I guess that much so I'm worried about something in my past that the mortgage
24:01company could find out about which I'm scared could make them decide to withdraw their money
24:06so we couldn't complete and we'd lose our deposit what thing in your past I'll tell you about that in
24:11a minute but first I wanted to know if there's a way you could change my name on the mortgage forms
24:17change your name use Jeff's surname make me feel an autonomous and as if we were married so this
24:25thing in your past can't be linked by them to you now yeah okay
24:33firstly almost certainly no and even if I could to be honest with you I wouldn't but more important
24:49than that the mortgage company aren't gonna withdraw their loan Fiona they've already approved it they've
24:55already done their credit legal checks I read they can actually still withdraw the funds after
25:00exchange if they receive new information okay what is it we're talking about I have a criminal conviction
25:11the fuck I know for what I prefer not to say Fiona it's from years ago and I'm pretty sure it's spent
25:18it's just I woke up in a total panic last night they might do another credit check or something
25:23you didn't think maybe to discuss this with me or Jeff before you paid a 50k deposit I know
25:29Fiona you need to tell me what this is I can't I'm sorry well all of the checks that would be done
25:36have already been done so unless this is something in the I don't know public domain that they would
25:42find out about in the next two weeks and what sort of criminal conviction would they withdraw an offer
25:48for well anything money related obviously please please tell me it wasn't fraud it wasn't I swear
25:54okay progress so so what well can you help me change the name you are just gonna refuse to tell me
26:03what the conviction was foreign I can't mark and I presume my brother's got no idea about this no
26:08okay
26:11well
26:18even if I could do it and as I say I have no idea if it's even possible but if it was
26:28and I did I'd be putting myself in an incredibly compromising position Fiona
26:32I know I could lose my license if anyone found out I know I know I'm so sorry to ask it's just
26:37if we lost that money it could ruin us we'd have to sell the house it would be a total disaster for
26:45us for the kids it'd just be awful
26:49what would you do for me in return
26:55evening everybody
27:13so we've got a fun-filled evening lined up for you we've got the auction coming up
27:19and we've got the band playing till midnight and I've got a very busy evening trying to get
27:26around the room to relieve you of your hard-earned dough
27:29but before all of that I just wanted to say a few quick thank yous firstly thank you all for coming
27:39tonight and for paying a frankly exorbitant amount of money for a table
27:42secondly I want to say a huge thank you to all the staff here
27:51what a brilliant job they do day in day out for our children
27:55and lastly and most importantly I want to say thank you to my son Jack
28:02who has enriched my life in so many ways
28:12he's taught me that I'm not the center of the universe who knew
28:18he has taught me to look for joy in the most unexpected places and he has allowed me to find
28:32an ease with the world that I never thought possible
28:41and that that is the most unexpected extraordinary gift from him
28:47so to Jack and to all our children we celebrate you and to the rest of you
28:56we are coming for your wallets
28:58what do you know about it about the same as most people I guess
29:15you haven't gone online and researched the actual fuck out of it
29:19no I knew you'd take care of that
29:21it's fair enough
29:23okay so here's what I found out then
29:26I found out that actually a kid with Downs is not so different
29:31there might be some physical health things
29:34they might take a little longer to do certain things
29:38there might be a few other challenges along the way
29:40but actually life can be pretty normal
29:42but here's the thing Ram
29:47pretty normal's not what I dreamt of all my life
29:52pretty normal's not what I want
29:55what I want is actual normal
29:59I want a child that does all the boring ordinary things that other kids do
30:05not one who attracts well-meaning smiles and haven't they done well considering
30:09I want a child that behaves appallingly when they're a teenager
30:13gets pissed too young and takes drugs and scares us
30:17and then becomes nice again in their 20s
30:19I want another life for us
30:21when they're 18 and they leave home
30:24I want grandkids
30:29and I'm so aware this makes me sound absolutely appalling
30:34it doesn't make you sound appalling
30:35it doesn't make you sound appalling
30:36but I'm just trying to be honest with you
30:38I don't think I'm a good enough person to go on that journey
30:43and truthfully
30:45I think I would resent that life
30:49and I'm sure that's a pretty normal reaction
30:51was it yours
30:56no
30:59so
31:05if we found out tomorrow unequivocally that he or she had a downs
31:11I'd want to go ahead with the pregnancy
31:13I mean in the end I think it has to be your decision
31:15but if it was down to me then
31:18yeah I would go ahead
31:19no doubts at all
31:21no not really
31:23I just know that when the doctor said there was an issue
31:28it never made me want to end it
31:30I guess you'll have to go with your gut instincts
31:33I just knew I hated the idea of
31:35stopping a life just because it wasn't the perceived idea of perfect
31:39what the fuck is perfect anyway
31:41you're the crack in everything
31:46I know
31:46that's how the leg gets in
31:48and were they as generous as you hoped?
31:54yeah
31:54they were
31:55well that's lovely
31:57it was
31:58it was life affirming
32:11change of plan Claire
32:19I've got no appointments this morning
32:20so I'm going to go to Aldercroft to help them clean up
32:23be a couple of hours
32:23no worries
32:24hi
32:33DCI Cassie Steele
32:34I know
32:36I'm up
32:36I know
32:38Ok
32:40I'm going to go
32:57Ok
32:58Thanks
32:59I'm going
33:00I'm going to go
33:02I don't know if it has been looking at our...
33:04I don't know if it has been looking at our...
33:05I don't know if it has been looking at our...
33:07I don't know if it has been looking at our...
33:09D.I.C. on Bishop Street looking for DCI Siddur.
33:19Siddur.
33:20Oh, good afternoon, sir.
33:21I've got a detective here from Bishop Street, Nick.
33:23He'd like to talk to you in connection with a murder investigation.
33:27Historical, apparently.
33:32You are good. Very good.
33:43Mr Barton.
33:44Hello.
33:45Tracked you down at last.
33:47DCI Cassie Stewart.
33:48I'm investigating an historic murder,
33:50and I wondered if you had time for a quick chat.
33:53Er, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
33:56Jack, do you want to go over to them?
33:58I'll be back in a minute.
33:59Go to the girls.
34:00I'll be back in a couple of minutes.
34:02Yeah, straight through there.
34:11Morning.
34:12D.I.C. on.
34:15So...
34:17This has to be a first.
34:19What is?
34:20Two of us in the same building.
34:22Fuck me.
34:23Wonders on overseas.
34:25Yay.
34:26Great.
34:27Yes, indeed.
34:28So were you out before?
34:29I feel like we met before.
34:30Er, no, I don't think so.
34:32Maybe a BPA bash your face looks familiar.
34:34Er, I'm not a member of the BPA, so...
34:37Oh, okay.
34:39Interesting.
34:40Anyway, er, how can I help you?
34:44Er, so I'm part of a team that's investigating an historical murder.
34:49We're just following up on preliminary leads,
34:51and we think you can help us throw some light on the events of an evening
34:55some 30 years ago connected to the victim's death.
34:58Er, years ago?
34:59I don't think I was even a police officer 30 years ago.
35:01I certainly wasn't a detective.
35:03I'm sorry.
35:04That's a misunderstanding.
35:05It's...
35:06It's, er, not a case that you have any connection with as an officer.
35:09It was when you were a civilian.
35:11A police probationer, actually.
35:13As a possible witness to a crime.
35:16We hope so.
35:20Yeah.
35:21We're done.
35:22I'm sorry.
35:23You want to interview me, we'll do it with a brief.
35:25DCI said they were...
35:26I would have expected better of you, D.I. Khan.
35:29Or maybe you're just one of their coconuts.
35:37I'll be in touch.
35:38And whoever sent you from upstairs, tell them nice try but no cigar.
35:47But just to remind you, this test, even alongside the ultrasound, is not diagnostic.
35:52For a diagnosis, you'd need an amniocentesis.
35:59Obviously, I'm sure you're aware that does carry a small risk of miscarriage.
36:06Would you offer me an NIPT test?
36:11Jenny calls it as she sees it, which can be irritating.
36:15Sometimes she struggles to understand other people's feelings, but...
36:19But she's funny and clever.
36:22And loving.
36:23Good.
36:25You're a lucky man.
36:26Yes, I am.
36:29And she has...
36:30Nothing.
36:31In monetary terms, I mean.
36:32She has no savings.
36:34She went so little flat.
36:37And...
36:40Well...
36:42Given what I know that she'll be doing for me in the next year or so...
36:46It felt like a...
36:47A small...
36:48Arsing bollocks.
36:50Recompense.
36:51Recompense, exactly.
36:52Yes, recompense.
36:53Thanks, Adam.
36:55I get it, Grandad.
36:57Don't worry.
36:58I understand.
37:03Well, I knew you would.
37:04Thanks, Adam.
37:06So...
37:08Good health.
37:09Oh.
37:10I'm afraid that ship's already left the port.
37:13To youth.
37:14No, sorry, no.
37:15No, I mean, it's just...
37:16I do remember Rob.
37:17And that night, of course, how could you not?
37:18Not this lad.
37:20And you have no recollection of Mr. Fogarty stopping the car at any point before he was pulled over?
37:35No.
37:36But, I mean, we...
37:37We'd all had a few, so I can't swear, but...
37:40Sure.
37:41So, you only actually stayed in the force a few weeks after passing out, Dean?
37:44Yeah.
37:45And why was that?
37:46It just wasn't for me.
37:48I mean, I quickly realised I didn't like taking orders, which is not ideal.
37:52Fair enough.
37:53I don't know that I'd have been particularly good at it.
37:55Didn't feel I had the right sort of brain.
37:58Guess I'm not much of a team player.
38:00I think I'm more of a one-man band sort of bloke.
38:03It's a shame.
38:04I mean, you obviously do have leadership skills.
38:06I saw your offices.
38:07Your secretary was telling me about your event here last night.
38:10Was she?
38:12Maybe you underestimate yourself.
38:13Maybe.
38:14Never know.
38:15And did you stay in touch with any of them?
38:19No.
38:20No, just a few weeks of my life.
38:2229.
38:23The initial training period was back then.
38:25Yeah, but in comparative terms, it's a very brief window.
38:27I mean, in fact, this is pretty much the first time I've heard any of their names in 30 years.
38:32Hmm.
38:52Excuse me, mate.
38:53DC Jake Collier.
38:54Have a quick word.
38:56You was at St. B's, wasn't you?
38:59Yeah.
39:00Yeah.
39:01Yeah, you were a prefect, man.
39:03I was, yeah.
39:04Long time.
39:05How you doing?
39:06Bro.
39:07You were a proper dickhead.
39:09Was I?
39:10And you became a copper.
39:12For fuck's sake, man.
39:14Why would you ever want to be a copper?
39:16So why would, why would someone do that, do you think, in your experience?
39:22Cut the hands and head off a body?
39:25Usually it's done just prior to disposal.
39:29It's too obscure identification.
39:31Right, and you reckon what he just bottled it?
39:33Fogger tea?
39:35I guess.
39:36You never know, do you?
39:37What someone's capable of.
39:38Nope.
39:39You don't.
39:40Thanks for your time, Mr. Barnes.
39:41Yeah, pleasure.
39:42Yer, here he is.
39:43Robert Fogarty.
39:44224G.
39:45Rented a space here for eight years.
39:49Thanks for your time, Mr Barnes.
39:50Yeah, pleasure.
39:59Yeah, here he is.
40:01Robert Fogarty.
40:03224G.
40:05Rented the space here for...
40:07eight years.
40:19It's me.
40:34We need to meet.
40:49Hello?
41:09Hello?
41:19Hey, come here.
41:29Liz?
41:33It's Fiona.
41:35Grayson from Hendon.
41:44What are you doing?
41:45Are you insane?
41:47We need to speak.
41:53Tomorrow, 11 o'clock.
41:55St Saviour's Park, by the bridge.
41:57Wear a hoodie.
41:59Don't drive.
42:01Pay for your train ticket in cash.
42:17He was cagey and prickly.
42:19Which might indicate something, but when I then researched him, it turns out he's got a 30-year history of being cagey and prickly.
42:26At what?
42:27Multiple misconduct issues.
42:28An allegation of using drugs, one of using prostitutes, another one of fabricating evidence, load more low-level stuff.
42:34Jesus.
42:35How's he still employed?
42:36Because he fought on one of them all.
42:38Every single one.
42:39He's been very vocal about saying that they were all racially motivated.
42:44So what was he like with you?
42:46Oh, fine.
42:47Until he realised why I was there.
42:48Then he pretty much kicked me out.
42:49And maybe lasted two minutes.
42:51Okay.
42:52Wow.
42:53How was Dean Barton?
42:55Er, open and friendly.
42:56And er, rather lovely actually.
43:00Although, am I just thinking that because he has a disabled son and he does stuff for charity.
43:04Hmm.
43:05Give you Jimmy Sample.
43:06Exactly.
43:10Bottom line though.
43:11We've now seen all four of them.
43:19So I do have agendas.
43:20You're absolutely right.
43:21Much as I might try and tell myself I don't.
43:24And we don't have any real evidence of anything yet.
43:30But my instinct tells me we're on something.
43:34Under normal circumstances, I'd say that your instincts are always rock solid.
43:38But as you say, you've got a lot of things going on for you at the moment.
43:42I just think we need to tread carefully.
43:46Why don't we sleep on it?
43:47Talk about it in the morning.
43:48I moved in with Sal today.
43:51It might be an idea if I turn up at some point.
43:53Oh, I think that might be a very good idea.
43:55Okay.
43:56Night, Sonny.
43:57Night, boss.
43:58Good night, boss.
44:00Good night, boss.
44:02Good night, boss.
44:05Good night.
44:14Oh, my God.
44:44I have a witness who can 100% confirm that Walsh was being chased.
44:56Why?
44:57He saw two men running after him, one of whom actually called out his name.
45:01One of them knew his name?
45:02Yep.
45:03Any description of the men?
45:04One Asian, one unusually tall.
45:08Sir, Chase changes everything.
45:10Chase suggests, at the very least, that his murder was in some way provoked.
45:19Jake.
45:20Find the rest of him.
45:40See you next time.
45:49See you next time.
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