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00:00Cold and Calculating
00:02An emergency call came in from a parking lot in the city of Placentia, which is right next to Yorba Linda.
00:30The person on the line quickly reported what he had heard and then hung up.
00:48The police went to the address in Yorba Linda, given by the person here at the beginning.
01:00The police left for the address in Yorba Linda.
01:30The police found a horrific and bloody scene.
01:35A man and a woman were found dead with multiple stab wounds.
01:39The victims were Raquel Estrada, 53, and her son, Juan Carlos Herrera, 34.
01:49The investigators searched for anything that could lead them to the killer.
01:56When the police investigated the crime scene, they found very clear boot prints.
02:02Combat boots.
02:02There was a small bloody boot print on the outside, pointing away from the house.
02:10And, obviously, there were bloody boot prints inside the house.
02:14They were what everyone called combat boots.
02:18Very different, with a military-style sole, used in many places.
02:24Neither of the victims was wearing boots, and the marks became important clues.
02:32But there were others.
02:34Bodies dragged away.
02:35It appeared that the bodies had been moved from one place to another, because there were pools of blood and then streaks of blood on the floor, along the surface.
02:51Adams, look what I found.
02:55There were two knives in the house.
02:56A butter knife, which was bent, and also a knife, like a meat knife, with a little blood on the tip.
03:04Could the bloody knives indicate that the killer knew the house?
03:10Nothing had been stolen from the house, and neither of the victims had been sexually assaulted.
03:16Given the high number of stab wounds, the police concluded that there were indications that the crime appeared to be of a personal nature.
03:26Were these people renting their house?
03:28Yes, they rented from me.
03:29Carlos and Raquel's rental agency provided information that deepened the mystery.
03:34Another person lived there with the two victims, Eder, Raquel's younger brother.
03:41There were three people in the house.
03:44There were two victims, and the third, Eder Herrera, was missing.
03:51The question was, was Eder, only 24 years old, just another victim or the prime suspect?
03:57Of course, the first thing we did was try to find the missing person.
04:08Raquel Estrada moved from Mexico to Orange County, California, in 1993.
04:14Raquel was a very strong woman who had grown up in the Veracruz region of Mexico.
04:25She had two children, a husband who had abandoned her and basically left the family.
04:33She had to leave everything behind and come to the United States.
04:38After a while, her sons, Juan Carlos and Eder, who is ten years younger, were able to join her in California.
04:46She worked very hard as a cleaning lady.
04:51I think Carlos was old enough to start working as soon as he arrived here, and he began cleaning parking lots.
04:58After graduating from high school in 2006, Eder, the youngest son, joined the family cleaning business.
05:07which at that time already had maintenance contracts with several parking lots and other businesses in Orange County.
05:13The family had built a business, and they seemed to be a close-knit family.
05:21I don't think they were the type of people who would attract that kind of thing.
05:28Hello, we are investigating the incident that occurred in the neighborhood.
05:39We searched the entire area for anyone who might have seen something.
05:44Are you talking about the roads?
05:46Yes.
05:46The neighbor said he heard someone screaming for help from the house where the murders occurred.
05:55The neighbor said he saw someone at the front door trying to grab what he thought was a sofa.
06:00I thought he was asking for help because of the sofa.
06:04Are you sure about that?
06:06Yes.
06:07He didn't know Eder's name, but he said he was the younger of two brothers who lived there.
06:13The police believed that in the dark the neighbor couldn't see properly and didn't realize what was really happening.
06:22It was fairly obvious that Carlos, the older brother, after being stabbed, had gone out the front door and fallen to the ground, and that he had been pulled back because there was blood and marks of a body being dragged at the entrance of the house.
06:37Carlos wasn't asking for a little help.
06:39He was begging for his life.
06:43The neighbor's story made the search for Eder Herrera even more urgent.
06:48Police throughout Orange County were searching for him, but they couldn't find him.
06:53And he wasn't answering his cell phone.
06:57Shortly after the bodies were taken to the morgue, the coroner performed an autopsy on the bodies of Eder's brother and mother.
07:03I think she was stabbed around 30 times, and Carlos was stabbed about 60 times.
07:16The injuries were very severe.
07:17This revealed much more than just violence.
07:23It was a very personal attack, carried out by someone who was very angry.
07:27The autopsy also revealed that the killer used a very specific type of knife.
07:34In military style, an instrument that the military uses.
07:40The depth of the knife, the depth of the wounds, of the punctures.
07:46Everything indicated that it was a highly dangerous weapon.
07:54The military-style knife was in the hands of a killer who was still at large somewhere in Orange County.
08:01The police were desperately searching for Eder Herrera.
08:03His physical description, the make, model, and license plate of his car were passed on to all active police officers.
08:16Then, using the information from his cell phone, the police were able to locate him at a friend's house.
08:27He was driving home, and as he was going down the hill, Brea police used what they call a high-risk vehicle stop.
08:37A motora möglichav que jáMerdam, pant Freeze do Car油, botões panansos para trás de luar!
08:45Botanhas piensas de我們的 cura dentro e vamos ver ambos os direitos programas.
08:52They will see the other side of me.
08:55Botanhas boxes in the morning or there.
08:58Botanhas di conduzas para trás e pressa abrahitando o botão para trás de sto.
09:01I'll check yours from the air, catch it!
09:03I'll see your hand in this.
09:05While he was sitting on the sidewalk, a detective named Alonso spoke to him and questioned him.
09:24The police take Ader to the police station, where forensic experts collect his clothing for...
09:50An analysis. Then, Ader receives the news of his mother's and brother's death.
09:57It's something no one deserves to go through. I can't express in words everything I felt.
10:08when I heard that.
10:14Investigators questioned Ader about his whereabouts when his mother and brother were killed.
10:22They asked me what I had been doing for the eight, ten, or twelve hours before. And I, of course,
10:32I explained.
10:33He had gone to his friend's house, stopped at the Jack in the Box diner on the way, and picked up his friend.
10:39And the two drove around for a while, stopped at Dennis's diner and bought dessert.
10:56Ader claimed that he went home, but stopped when he saw the police cars on his street.
11:03The investigators didn't believe it.
11:11It's a rather strange reaction from someone who sees several police cars in front of their house.
11:33And that person isn't going to go there and check on what happened to the family members who live there.
11:38Several factors led him to be the prime suspect.
11:42A neighbor's testimony, for example.
11:44But Ader's strange behavior on the night of the murders and the neighbor's testimony,
12:05Testimony from someone who said they saw Ader dragging something around the house was enough for the police to arrest him for the murders of his mother and brother.
12:11At that moment, my future hung by a thread because of something I didn't do.
12:19That's why I could only think about who could have done that.
12:23Ader dragging something around the house was enough for the police to arrest him for the murders of his mother and brother.
12:31Ader dragging something around the house was enough for the police to arrest him for the murders of his mother and brother.
12:37Ader dragging something around the house was enough for the police to arrest him for the murders of his mother and brother.
13:07Oh my God!
13:09I received a call about a person on the street who had been stabbed on the Rio Santana trail and had been hit multiple times.
13:16I was on my way to work and, by chance, I glanced to the side and saw the coroner's van, and I had no idea Jimmy was there.
13:31I arrived at work and then my mother called me and said, "I can't get through to your brother, something happened."
13:38She said, "Mom, I just drove past the road on the overpass and there are a lot of police officers there, a lot of police in Rio."
13:47And that's where Jim slept.
13:51The body under the bridge was, in fact, that of Jimmy Midal, 42 years old.
13:55He had more than 60 stab wounds on his upper body, all the way to his head.
14:05The stab wounds were so deep that they pierced many vital organs.
14:10Lloyd Jimmy Midal grew up in Southern California with his mother and older sister, Karen.
14:21Like many, he was an annoying younger brother.
14:24Whenever he and his friends did something wrong, someone would come and catch them, and they would all run away.
14:29Except for him, who always ended up getting the short end of the stick.
14:32He wanted people to accept him, and because of that, he would do anything he was told to do.
14:38And this ended up causing him problems.
14:42Jimmy spent most of his youth in and out of prison.
14:45More recently, he had changed.
14:48He was tired of this life and wanted to change many things.
14:53Jimmy Midal spent his last day on Earth with the person who loved him more than anyone.
14:59I had a terrible feeling all day.
15:02He was upset because he wanted to move into an apartment.
15:05But they had put someone else in.
15:09And he was very upset.
15:12I spoke to him and said,
15:14Jim, hang in there tonight, hang in there tonight.
15:17We'll talk about it tomorrow and decide what to do.
15:21Investigators don't know who would want to kill a harmless man like Jimmy Midal in such a savage way.
15:30Hey, take a look here.
15:32Someone was posting many messages saying that they had been to the riverbed and may have seen suspicious people.
15:39suggesting that the police investigate certain individuals and providing descriptions, etc.
15:45Look, several locations.
15:46It is not uncommon that when suspects know they are being investigated,
15:51They try to provide false information to confuse the police.
15:54Could he have been a suspect who was deliberately trying to mislead the investigation?
16:00Police found blogger Ted Nixon at his home.
16:04We had to obtain search warrants to find his IP address and locate the person.
16:09Me and another detective spoke with him.
16:11Ted Nixon?
16:15It is me.
16:16Can we come in for a minute?
16:18It is clear.
16:20Yes, you can come in.
16:23Can you explain the posts you've been making about the murder of Jimmy Midal?
16:28Yeah, I'm just trying to help.
16:30You know what would help a lot?
16:32If you were to give us a sample of your DNA.
16:35It is clear.
16:36Anything you want.
16:37When we told him that he was a potential suspect,
16:42He quickly offered to give us the DNA sample.
16:45The researchers sent a sample to the laboratory.
16:48And if the evidence tested positive regarding the material found at the Midal crime scene,
16:53The police would return.
17:00Midal had been stabbed more than 50 times.
17:03Lord Midal was a very large man, measuring approximately 1.87 meters and weighing 131 kilograms.
17:11Therefore, the murderer knew what he was doing.
17:14The coroner was able to determine that an instrument used to kill James
17:18It was probably a knife with a very heavy blade.
17:21because it managed to penetrate his skull and break several of his ribs.
17:26We think it was probably a type of knife called a cabaret.
17:33Multiple wounds inflicted with a large, military-style knife.
17:36Midal's murder appeared similar to the deaths of Raquel Estrada and her son, Juan Carlos Herrera.
17:44The modus operandi was very similar.
17:47But if a murderer killed all three victims,
17:50Where did Éder Herrera fit into all of this?
17:53After all, he was in jail.
17:55It would be impossible for him to kill Midal.
17:58Did the police arrest the wrong man?
18:00In the early hours of Wednesday, December 21, 2011,
18:29The Placentia police department received a call reporting
18:32that a body had been found north of a closed shopping center.
18:36The victim was James McGillivray, 53 years old.
18:40James had been having problems.
18:42His family lived a block away from where the murder occurred.
18:45The family invited him to stay with them.
18:47But James had chosen to live a different lifestyle.
18:50The difference of a city block was also the difference between life and death.
18:54When news of the murder began to spread,
19:04The residents began to fear that a serial killer was on the scene.
19:06He might be loose in Orange County.
19:09Both victims had been stabbed with a very large knife.
19:15and they had large, open wounds.
19:17It would take a lot of force to break through the bone.
19:20and even the skulls of the victims.
19:22The significance of injuries of this type is that the killer knew.
19:26what he or she was doing,
19:28He knew where the vital organs were located.
19:30I knew the anatomy of the human body.
19:32He knew what he had to do to kill a human being.
19:35And both men had been killed at almost the same time of night.
19:39on consecutive Tuesdays.
19:41Did he follow a pattern?
19:43Both victims were homeless.
19:46Both were attacked in the middle of the night.
19:48During the night, in isolated areas frequented by these two individuals.
19:54And they were both about the same age.
19:57In other words, many different things brought the two together.
20:02Meanwhile, Éder Herrera, 24 years old,
20:05He was in jail awaiting trial for the murders of his mother and brother.
20:09When he learned of the murders of Middow and McGillivray,
20:14He made a connection immediately.
20:16I was trying to link these two homicides to the murders of my family.
20:21AND...
20:22You know, the...
20:24The large number of stab wounds.
20:28Éder immediately activated the modus operandi,
20:31the use of the large knife,
20:35and the killing of people,
20:38at random in the neighborhood where he lived.
20:42Because Éder's family had been murdered.
20:45in a different jurisdiction than that of Middow and McGillivray,
20:48At that moment, he was the only one who made the connection.
20:52And in the case of James McGillivray,
21:00They obtained an extraordinary piece of evidence.
21:03At the moment of attack,
21:05James McGillivray slept next to a wall.
21:08which was part of a commercial structure.
21:10And the area was being filmed by surveillance cameras.
21:15Therefore, the entire murder was captured on video.
21:18What drew the most attention was the brutality.
21:23and all the hatred with which the suspect attacked his victim.
21:27From the moment the suspect enters the scene
21:30until the moment it leaves,
21:31about two minutes later,
21:33He attacks the victim constantly and violently throughout the entire time.
21:36It's hard to see much of him.
21:40But he's wearing dark clothes.
21:42And you can't see his face or anything else.
21:47But when the police replayed the tape,
21:49They found an unbelievable clue.
21:52About an hour and a half before the murder occurred,
21:55A car entered the parking lot.
21:56And we identified it as a white Toyota Corolla.
21:59And there was an interaction between the driver of the vehicle
22:03and James McGillivray.
22:05We had to find out who the car belonged to.
22:08And whether or not he was connected to this horrific crime.
22:16The police issued a warning to everyone.
22:18announcing that they were looking for a white Corolla.
22:20And Detective Wyatt met with the medical examiner.
22:23who performed the autopsies on Middall and McGillivray.
22:25I found some connections.
22:28The forensic experts determined that the murderer
22:30It used a blade that was more than 17 centimeters long.
22:35A large, cabar-style knife,
22:37like the military uses.
22:39So, we started thinking.
22:40that perhaps the murderer did
22:43some kind of military training.
22:46That would also explain it.
22:47The lethal force evident in both attacks.
22:50I have been a prosecutor for 18 years.
22:53And this is the first time.
22:54I saw a case involving a knife.
22:56It could even pierce the skull.
23:00But why someone with military training?
23:03Would you want to kill innocent people?
23:06As the Orange County police...
23:08He worked hard to create a profile of the killer.
23:11A new clue has emerged.
23:13The police in Placentia
23:14received a radio patrol call
23:16warning that an individual
23:17He had been seen inside a convenience store.
23:20and that he had a large knife
23:22which is similar to a cabaret-style knife.
23:26Sir, one moment.
23:27Where are you going?
23:28It's none of your business.
23:30Take your hands out of your pockets now.
23:33Raise your hands.
23:34Get up!
23:35Your left hand,
23:36Lift your shirt slowly.
23:37Don't move.
23:46And we saw that he had
23:48a cabar-style knife
23:50hidden at the waist.
23:53Take a step forward.
23:59Tell me about the knife.
24:00Where did you get it?
24:02Look, I don't owe you an explanation.
24:04I requested a DNA sample.
24:06And he refused.
24:09We gave him a soda.
24:11at a certain point
24:12And I tried to grab the can.
24:16to throw in the trash
24:17and then collect it.
24:18He almost got it.
24:21He said,
24:21I know why you want to do this.
24:24He was a 16-year-old boy.
24:26which made us even more suspicious.
24:28Well, it's up to you.
24:30I'm going to get a search warrant.
24:32until the end of the day
24:33And I'm going to get everything I want.
24:36Sit and wait.
24:42And he drinks the soda.
24:44After 25 years of working in the police force,
24:46I had never experienced anything like this before.
24:48A 16-year-old boy
24:49He told me he wasn't going to give me the DNA test.
24:51It was very strange.
24:52And I thought,
24:53Something strange is going on here.
24:54He has a knife.
24:56He doesn't want to give me a DNA sample.
24:58He might be a suspect.
24:59You shouldn't be here.
25:14At night, Mr. Smith.
25:15You don't need to worry about me.
25:17I know how to take care of myself.
25:19He is sure?
25:20Yes.
25:21See you tomorrow.
25:23All good.
25:24Thank you for the newspaper.
25:26You're welcome.
25:26They were all victims.
25:43of brutal attacks,
25:44intentional injuries
25:45in the upper torso,
25:47neck and head.
25:51The victim was
25:52Paulus Smith,
25:5457 years old.
25:55He became homeless.
25:58recently
25:59and had been evicted
26:00from the city hall.
26:01One of his daughters
26:02had invited Paulus
26:03living with her,
26:04But he refused.
26:07Everything was very similar.
26:08with the other victim
26:09and me,
26:10who was walking around there
26:11almost always,
26:12I was very shocked.
26:14Oh my God,
26:15There was another one.
26:16One more person
26:17She was attacked.
26:18And although this third murder
26:22was very similar
26:23to the first two,
26:24There is an exception.
26:25terrifying.
26:28The third homicide
26:29It practically happened
26:30In broad daylight.
26:32Obviously,
26:33the killer now
26:34I wasn't afraid
26:35of being arrested.
26:36He was
26:37taking more risks.
26:39The bloodlust
26:42increased
26:42and he seeks
26:43more opportunities
26:44to kill.
26:45Éder Herrera
26:52I was still in jail.
26:53Arrested for homicide.
26:55And that's where it began.
26:56thinking that maybe
26:56the serious killer
26:57from Orange County
26:59had also killed
27:00His mother and brother.
27:01The number of injuries
27:02among the victims,
27:04the use
27:05with a large knife,
27:08all reports
27:09They were similar,
27:10like cut and paste,
27:11he understands?
27:11The details.
27:15we decided to create
27:24a task force
27:25to go
27:27behind this possible
27:28serial killer.
27:30The police
27:31investigated everyone
27:32the cases
27:32from three departments
27:33police
27:34different
27:34from Orange County.
27:36They also
27:36They sent patrols.
27:37police officers for the community,
27:39in hope
27:39to find witnesses.
27:41The guys
27:41They returned
27:42with nowhere
27:42to go,
27:43like the guys
27:43realize
27:44and they weren't
27:45traffic.
27:46Today,
27:47the subject
27:47It was a kind of
27:48dead
27:49unresolved.
27:51We left on foot.
27:52for hours and hours,
27:53every day
27:54and every night.
27:56We used to glue it together.
27:56posters
27:57Everywhere.
27:59They also
27:59they were following clues
28:00from the public.
28:02I think we received
28:03more than 2,500,
28:053,000 tracks.
28:07Many clues
28:08They were people
28:09who claimed
28:09to have seen
28:10the Toyota Corolla
28:11white
28:11that appeared
28:12in the video
28:13of the murder
28:13by McGillivray.
28:15We found
28:16many
28:17Toyota Corolla,
28:18but none of them
28:19That's what we were looking for.
28:20None of them were
28:21involved in the crime.
28:23While the police
28:24followed the thousands
28:25of tracks,
28:26the investigators
28:27they also checked
28:28cell towers
28:29near the locations
28:30where the murders
28:31were committed.
28:33We obtained
28:34warrants
28:34to do
28:35tracking
28:37of calls
28:38cell phone
28:39from the towers,
28:41what does it mean
28:41that we managed
28:42warrants
28:43so that the towers
28:44of cellular telephony
28:45in the areas
28:46give us
28:46all the data
28:47of all the numbers
28:48telephones
28:49in a specific region.
28:53All the murders
28:54occurred within
28:54of a lightning bolt
28:55eight kilometers,
28:56then the police
28:57want to see
28:57if you can get together
28:58a phone call
28:59to cell towers
29:00near the scenes
29:01of the crimes
29:01at the moment
29:02of the murders.
29:04The first ones
29:04three locations
29:05It's two hours before
29:07and two hours later
29:08of the murder.
29:09This is the address.
29:12It should stay
29:13about two kilometers
29:13Where is Lloyd Middall from?
29:15He was murdered.
29:16We found
29:17a cell phone
29:17which reverberated
29:19of two towers
29:20in two murders.
29:22The phone
29:22was in the name
29:23by Jenny Wilson.
29:26We were trying
29:26find a killer
29:27in series,
29:28that's why it was important
29:29that we would do
29:30Everything to find it.
29:31Jenny Wilson?
29:40Yes?
29:41We can go in.
29:41For a minute?
29:43Thanks.
29:49What is it about?
29:51This is your
29:51Cell phone number?
29:55No.
29:58He is sure?
29:59It is registered.
29:59in your name.
30:01Wait a minute.
30:05It belongs to my wife.
30:07Your wife?
30:09Yes.
30:10And is she at home?
30:13No,
30:13She is at work.
30:15Where does she work?
30:17In the dye works,
30:18next to the library.
30:20In the library
30:21From Yorba Linda?
30:22AND.
30:23We were able to verify
30:24that she was at work
30:25during time
30:26in which a murder
30:27occurred
30:28when her phone
30:29reverberated
30:29on the cell tower
30:30and that she wasn't
30:31at work
30:32at the time of the other murder,
30:34but the tower nearby
30:34where she lived
30:35picked up the signal.
30:36I.e,
30:37She was at home.
30:38at midnight
30:39when a murder
30:40occurred
30:41and at work
30:42around five
30:43when the other one occurred.
30:44one more clue
30:47ended up standing out.
30:48of the others
30:49and it caused
30:50a huge turnaround
30:52in history.
30:54A homeless man
30:55called John Berry
30:56I had called
30:57to the police station
30:57and said that he thought
30:58who was being followed.
31:01John Berry
31:01He was interviewed.
31:02by the newspaper
31:03shortly after
31:03of the third murder.
31:06His photo
31:07It appeared in the newspaper.
31:08Los Angeles Times,
31:09which is one of the newspapers
31:09that were covering
31:10the cases.
31:11During the interview,
31:12he challenged
31:14the striker
31:16saying
31:18You don't scare me.
31:19This is my home.
31:21He was wearing dark clothes.
31:23I couldn't see it.
31:24His face.
31:26He couldn't.
31:26to supply
31:27nothing specific,
31:28It was more of a feeling.
31:30or an intuition
31:31which we were unable to prove.
31:34And that wasn't it.
31:35the only promising lead
31:36which had to be eliminated.
31:38The boy caught
31:39outside
31:40from the convenience store
31:41He also had to be released.
31:42due to lack of evidence.
31:44We discovered
31:45alibis,
31:46We spoke with his mother,
31:47Everything is very promising.
31:48at the beginning,
31:49but then,
31:50at the end,
31:51It was a waste of time.
31:54In the days that followed,
31:55the police
31:56and everyone in the community
31:57They seem unable to
31:58Breathe properly.
31:59I didn't want to watch.
32:07the news
32:07because I didn't want to know
32:08about the crimes,
32:10because I remembered
32:11of everything.
32:18I was driving
32:19all the way to the police station
32:20when the radio went off
32:22talking about a robbery
32:23at gunpoint
32:24at the intersection
32:26of the streets
32:26of La Palma
32:27in Imperial.
32:28The suspect was confronted.
32:29by someone
32:30and ran away
32:31and a witness
32:32I was chasing
32:32The suspect.
32:33Hey!
32:35What it was?
32:38I saw them.
32:38stab a guy
32:39and then run away.
32:41Where?
32:41Where?
32:42I went after him.
32:43all the way inside
32:44of the complex
32:44at the Imperial.
32:50He managed to do it.
32:51a description
32:51of the suspect,
32:53including the location
32:53Where did he run to?
32:55the clothes he was wearing,
32:56a physical description.
33:00Stop!
33:01Place your hands
33:01Right on my head!
33:10Turn around and face the other way!
33:12Kneel down!
33:15Hands behind your head!
33:17We just arrested
33:18a suspect.
33:18Let's take it now.
33:19to the police station.
33:20Exchange.
33:21When I saw
33:22The field
33:24for the first time,
33:25I thought,
33:26this guy
33:26He is very thin.
33:28No chance,
33:28He couldn't have done it.
33:29all of that.
33:31The suspect was
33:32Itzquaro Ocampo,
33:3323 years old.
33:35He was a former Marine.
33:36who had been dismissed
33:38after serving
33:39in Iraq
33:39one year earlier.
33:40What caught my attention?
33:42attention
33:43when I saw him
33:44for the first time
33:45That's how he was when he was young.
33:46I wasn't expecting it.
33:47that's why.
33:54Even more shocking
33:55for the police
33:56it was the identity
33:57of the victim.
33:58It was John Barry,
33:5964 years old.
34:02The man who had
34:03told to the media
34:03who was being followed,
34:05but that it did not have
34:06Fear of the killer.
34:10At 10 o'clock
34:11that followed,
34:12Ocampo not only
34:13confessed to murdering
34:14the four homeless people,
34:16as it also provided
34:16explicit details
34:18about each case.
34:19Where did you get it from?
34:20The body?
34:22First,
34:22I grabbed him by the shoulder.
34:24There,
34:25I started doing
34:25it on his shoulder.
34:27There,
34:28on the shoulder,
34:28on the shoulder.
34:30Have you done any research?
34:32or looked
34:33in any literature,
34:34or in any book,
34:35on
34:36where the best place
34:38for the staff
34:38it is for
34:39inflate the best
34:41damage
34:41and perform the act?
34:43Terminator.
34:45Terminator 2,
34:46that's when
34:46I was going
34:47For the shoulder.
34:47And he knew.
34:50that what was
34:50What they were doing was wrong.
34:51but in his head
34:52he felt
34:53justified
34:54because the population
34:55homeless
34:56had become
34:57a stain
34:58in the community
34:58and he was,
35:00type,
35:00doing a favor
35:01to her.
35:01Do you think that what
35:02you did
35:03Is it right or wrong?
35:05Wrong,
35:06But it had to be done.
35:08Why did it have to be done?
35:10I not only built the city
35:11to seem bad,
35:12or the state,
35:13they did
35:14the place
35:15It can also look bad.
35:16OK.
35:16And that's why.
35:17that needed to be done.
35:18Yes sir.
35:19Then,
35:19really,
35:20What were you doing?
35:21It was that you were
35:21helping to clean the city,
35:22Clean the area.
35:23In a way,
35:24Yes,
35:24the field,
35:24the field gave more
35:27a bizarre reason
35:29for the slaughter.
35:32What did you do?
35:33Do you want to kill someone?
35:34That was the fact.
35:35What kind of marine are you?
35:40Probably, sir.
35:41Yes sir.
35:42I couldn't kill
35:43when I was there,
35:45then...
35:45the other significant thing
35:57That's what he said.
35:58that I had seen
35:59John Barry's photo
36:00in the newspaper
36:01And that's why.
36:03that he chose
36:03that victim.
36:04in truth,
36:06John Barry
36:07that was his target
36:08because of his photo
36:09It was in the newspaper.
36:11In truth,
36:12John Barry
36:12bad luck
36:13why
36:13the journalist's intention
36:16when posting his photo
36:17in the newspaper
36:18initially
36:19It was for educational purposes.
36:20and to help people.
36:21knowing that the guy
36:32possibly
36:33had been
36:34prisoner
36:35It gave me a feeling.
36:36good
36:36knowing that he
36:37it was no longer
36:38loose on the streets.
36:40I said
36:40Praise be to God.
36:41I was happy
36:43relieved
36:44because nobody
36:44But he was going to be murdered.
36:46but for
36:48Eder Herrera
36:49the news
36:50it had the effect
36:51contrary
36:51then
36:53when I found out
36:54who had
36:55been arrested
36:57I am not
36:58I believed
37:00I was shocked.
37:02he
37:03He was my friend.
37:04a great friend
37:06the field was trapped
37:13for a series
37:14of murders
37:15in the county of
37:16Orange
37:16in California
37:17and nobody
37:21It got more
37:21shocked
37:22than
37:22Eder Herrera
37:23the man
37:24accused
37:24to kill
37:25herself
37:25mother
37:26and himself
37:26brother
37:27Itzco
37:28The field
37:28I met
37:30he at school
37:31we
37:35it was too much
37:36friend
37:36very
37:38I lived
37:41with him
37:41the family
37:41from him
37:41in certain
37:42moment
37:42and he
37:44lived
37:44with me
37:44and mine
37:44family
37:45in another
37:45moment
37:45that
37:48eliminated
37:48completely
37:49the possibility
37:50of him having
37:50killed
37:51the family
37:51from him
37:51when he found out
37:52that your friend
37:53school
37:54had killed
37:55the guys
37:55homeless
37:56and finally
37:57the police
37:58it arrived
37:59the same
37:59conclusion
38:00although
38:00for reasons
38:01very different
38:02when they
38:04searched
38:05his house
38:06the element
38:07key
38:08that they found
38:08they were
38:09the boots
38:10caterpillar
38:10that he had
38:11said to the detective
38:12Wyatt
38:12that used
38:13right away
38:13to kill
38:14people
38:15the boots
38:17they had
38:18blood
38:19they tested
38:20DNA
38:21and DNA
38:23belonged
38:23the
38:24Rachel
38:26and Carlos
38:27which confirmed
38:28without shadow
38:29doubt
38:29that the field
38:30he was guilty
38:31for the murders
38:32I stayed
38:38fully
38:39without ground
38:39I couldn't.
38:41to understand
38:42why
38:43he killed
38:45two people
38:45that were not
38:47homeless
38:47It took
38:49so I can gather
38:50the parts
38:51and discover
38:52obviously
38:54with the help
38:54of the police
38:55that the element
38:56connection
38:57among the victims
38:58it was
38:59Eder Herrera
39:00when confronted
39:02with the new evidence
39:03the field
39:04confessed
39:04who killed
39:05the family
39:05from a friend
39:06Eder
39:06and tried
39:07to mislead
39:07the investigators
39:08when changing
39:09the scene
39:09of the crime
39:10he put
39:12a knife
39:12kitchen
39:13and put
39:14a little
39:15blood
39:16in it
39:17to create
39:17a scene
39:18and left
39:18the knife
39:19next to
39:19of the bodies
39:20as if that
39:21if it were a weapon
39:21of the crime
39:22he also
39:25confessed
39:25what did
39:26the call
39:26emergency
39:27they had
39:29the recording
39:30from the call
39:30emergency
39:31and if they
39:33had touched
39:33the tape
39:34for Eder
39:35to hear
39:35he would have
39:36recognized
39:36the voice
39:36from a friend
39:37and would have
39:37said
39:37it's the field
39:38and the reason
39:42for him
39:42wanting to kill
39:43the family
39:43from a friend
39:44in truth
39:47the reasons
39:48were good
39:48trivial
39:49he and Eder
39:51They were friends.
39:52a long time ago
39:53but
39:54something
39:55had happened
39:56between the two
39:57what did the accused do?
39:58feel that they
39:58They were no longer friends.
39:59when
40:01he returned
40:03from Iraq
40:04it wasn't the same
40:06guy I knew
40:07He was a stranger.
40:10he had
40:12outbreaks
40:13he said
40:15things that
40:16they didn't
40:17no sense
40:18he was
40:19paranoid
40:20extremely
40:21paranoid
40:22the new evidence
40:29acquitted
40:30Eder
40:30of having done
40:31anything
40:31against the family
40:32and he was
40:33released from prison
40:34another thing
40:37bizarre
40:37in that case
40:38that
40:39November 28th
40:402013
40:41while waiting
40:42the trial
40:43Itzquaro Ocampo
40:45took his own
40:46life in prison
40:47I think that
40:49I felt a little
40:50of disappointment
40:50and
40:52a little
40:55relief
40:56But of course
40:59that for families
41:00of the victims
41:01the pain never goes away
41:02all the victims
41:04in this case
41:05they left a group
41:06of people
41:06who loved them
41:07They took care of them.
41:09what would they do
41:10anything
41:11to prevent
41:11what happened
41:12with them
41:12under these circumstances
41:13my question
41:15It always has been
41:16why?
41:17why?
41:18What is the reason?
41:21why
41:21Jim did nothing.
41:23I only slept
41:24he wasn't doing any harm
41:25to no one
41:25I wasn't doing anything.
41:26why
41:27Did they kill him?
41:32and for
41:33Éder Herrera
41:34that will have to live
41:35with the pain
41:36in double dose
41:37of having lost
41:37your loved ones
41:39and of having been accused
41:40of their deaths
41:41every day
41:43I think about them.
41:44but
41:47I am grateful.
41:49finally
41:51to be able to close
41:51this horrible cycle
41:54of my life
41:54and move on
41:55for you
41:56the
41:57the
41:57the
41:58the
42:01the
42:02the
42:03the
42:04the
42:05the
42:06the
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