00:00So then where we stand today, Matthew Stafford, Drake May, when it comes to MVP, you still give that nod to Matthew Stafford.
00:05No, I mean, I think Drake May is the MVP, personally.
00:08And, of course, I'm biased.
00:10I get that.
00:10I recognize that.
00:11But I also think when you break it down, especially in recent years, you have to finish one or two overall in your conference to even be considered.
00:21And, again, the Rams are going to finish five.
00:23There's a good chance they finish five or six.
00:25And then on top of it, Drake May is only, like, five total touchdowns behind Matthew Stafford at the moment.
00:30Granted, Stafford hasn't played yet this week.
00:32He plays tonight.
00:33So we'll see how he does there.
00:34But you have a better record.
00:35Drake May has a better quarterback rating, better completion percentage, just approximately the same amount of yards.
00:42Stafford has, like, five more total touchdowns and, I think, three less interceptions.
00:47And the big thing is Stafford is throwing to Puka Nakua and Devontae Adams.
00:52Because Puka Nakua might be the offensive player of the year.
00:55He's been so good this year.
00:57And Devontae Adams leads the league in touchdowns.
00:59Wait, doesn't Drake May has 30 touchdowns?
01:02And plus the five rushing touchdowns.
01:03That's why I said total touchdowns.
01:04Oh, okay, total touchdowns.
01:05I'm sorry about that.
01:06Yeah, that's so good.
01:07Yeah, I think they're going to look at Matthew Stafford's probably going to finish the season with, you know, right now he's at 40.
01:15So let's call it 40-plus touchdowns, five interceptions, where Drake May probably finishes with, you know, 32 touchdowns or something like that.
01:25So Stafford finishes passing touchdowns, right, more interceptions.
01:30And then the only other thing, I think it's because here's why I think the voters give it to Stafford.
01:37But who's more likely to be in the MVP conversation again, Stafford or Drake May?
01:44Drake May.
01:45Right.
01:45So they probably figure, like, Stafford's probably, this is his, you know, last kick at the can.
01:50He plays a couple more years, but maybe he doesn't have this type of success.
01:53We might as well give it to this guy.
01:54He's been in a Super Bowl before.
01:56He's won one.
01:57And that's the only thing he doesn't have on his resume, where Drake May has the, it looks like he can get to a Super Bowl and win one again, like, you know, in his future.
02:06And it looks like he's going to be in the MVP conversation again.
02:09So it's almost like, you know, the voters go, all right, we'll give it to Stafford just because of that.
02:14I just think what Drake May has done this season is more impressive.
02:188-0 on the road.
02:19Oh, no, I agree with you.
02:20Overall record, the stats are basically equatable.
02:23Right.
02:23Just like last year with Lamar and Josh Allen.
02:26Right.
02:26Like, I just, I think Drake May deserves it more.
02:29You're probably right, Wiggy.
02:30Voters will look at it as a quote-unquote career achievement award.
02:33Right.
02:34Which is dumb.
02:35I don't think that's appropriate here, but, I mean, unfortunately.
02:39But look at the way it was last year, right?
02:41Who statistically had better statistics?
02:44Lamar.
02:44Lamar.
02:45But they screwed Josh out of one the year before.
02:48Right.
02:48So they gave it to him.
02:48Right.
02:49So it became, you know, like, all right, we, you know, we didn't give it to Josh.
02:53He hadn't had one.
02:54Lamar had already had one.
02:56So it's like, all right, let's give it to Josh.
02:58Right.
02:58It's, it's not, it should be the guy, like you said, Sean, Drake May, his statistics might
03:04not be as better, but you could tell that he's, he's just as, he's more valuable in
03:11the sense because he might not have the same type of talent as Matthew Stafford.
03:17Since 2000, Wiggy, I did this research when I was hanging out with Jones last Tuesday.
03:21Since 2000, there has never been a player to finish third in his own division and win
03:28the MVP.
03:29And the, and quarterbacks have only finished second in their division and won the MVP
03:34once.
03:35And it was Peyton Manning in 2008.
03:36And, and I guess technically Steve McNair, if you count the year he's split with Peyton
03:41Manning, uh, like that's it.
03:42Now I want to see Mark and Steve, they're on hold.
03:45I want to get their calls in, but quickly just to make sure that everybody's on the same
03:48page.
03:49And I don't know if you can see it on the Twitch line, uh, on the text line shine, but there
03:53are a lot of people that are saying that the IR rules are different when it comes to playoff.
03:57So Matt Collins, it's four weeks, not four games.
03:59Oh, okay.
04:00I mean, I don't know.
04:01I don't know that that's accurate.
04:03Yeah.
04:03Cause the rules are like all over the place.
04:05You know what I mean?
04:06So I guess we can easily, I guess maybe we can find that out.
04:09Something that we could, uh, we could bring up.
04:12It should, it's stupid anyways.
04:14If it's four games in the regular season, it should just be four weeks.
04:18What the hell is it?
04:19It's just a dumb rule anyway.
04:21Like you're still recovering no matter what, whether you're playing or not.
04:23Yeah.
04:24So, I mean, maybe that's something that they'll change because I think if I think it's
04:27dumb, don't you think coaches and players think it's dumb?
04:30Yeah.
04:31Uh, here's Mark from Medford.
04:33Mark, good morning.
04:34Hey, good morning.
04:35Happy new year, guys.
04:36Happy new year.
04:37So I have two things.
04:39First on the MVP conversation.
04:41And my second thing will be on the Buffalo Bills yesterday.
04:43Okay.
04:43Um, I do agree that Drake Mays is, uh, is more, uh, what was the word you used?
04:50Impressive than, than Matthew Stafford for one reason.
04:53Matthew Stafford has Buka Nakua and Devontae Adams.
04:58Drake May does not.
05:00Drake May has everybody else.
05:03Understand what I'm saying?
05:04Yep.
05:05No, we get that.
05:06And the second thing, on, on, on the Buffalo game yesterday.
05:10Now, Wiggy, you touched on it earlier.
05:12You know, you said, um, that, uh, it would have been better off not, you know, not kicking
05:18the extra point because you had a better chance of getting the, uh, it wasn't guaranteed.
05:23The two point conversion.
05:25Yeah.
05:25Then go down.
05:26Yeah.
05:26You'd be on the three online.
05:28The two point conversion, as we saw, wasn't guaranteed either.
05:32And like you said, um, Hertz was shut down.
05:36Botley was shut down the whole second half.
05:38I would have took my chances and kicking the extra point.
05:42Yeah.
05:42I guess you could, but the Philly also did block in, uh, a field goal attempt.
05:47Yep.
05:47I just, I think when coaches do it with, but we probably should ask for able that too.
05:52We, you know, he probably can give us for what stretched, you know, to stretch insight
05:56to the analytics.
05:57I think the way that they look at is we have a better chance being, knowing that we're going
06:03to be on the three odd line versus we either got to drive the length of the field to score
06:09a touchdown or drive a good distance to get in field goal range versus we know we're going
06:16to be on the three odd line with the two point conversion to win the football game.
06:20You know what I mean?
06:21One is like, all right, here's what's guaranteed.
06:25There's no guarantee we get the two point conversion, but we are guaranteed.
06:28We're going to have an attempt from the three odd line versus the other two where there's
06:34no guarantee you even get in the field goal range or you drive the length of the field
06:39to score a touchdown.
06:40And Bob, good morning.
06:42Good morning.
06:43How you guys doing?
06:44Good.
06:44I got a quick question about, um, Drake and Stafford for the MVP.
06:49I know Drake is number two quarterback for the pro bowl.
06:52Did Stafford get picked for number one?
06:55Well, no, uh, well, no, because then the pro bowl, well, if it's the pro bowl voting,
07:00is that what he's talking about?
07:02Yes.
07:02Okay.
07:02Yes.
07:03I don't know who would be number one in far as pro bowl, uh, voting.
07:06I mean, that's probably, you guys don't know who the number one QB is staff.
07:11Um, Drake was picked number two, right?
07:13Right.
07:13But the quarterback, yeah, but the AFC though in the AFC, it could be, it could be anybody.
07:19It's probably Josh Allen in the AFC.
07:21Did, did Stafford make the pro bowl?
07:24Yeah.
07:24He probably will make the pro bowl in the NFC.
07:26Yes, he did.
07:26Yeah.
07:27Okay.
07:28Okay.
07:28I was just curious.
07:30Yeah.
07:30I mean, that ranks right.
07:31Yeah.
07:31I really wouldn't believe it or not.
07:34I don't want Drake to get it yet.
07:35And I'm a diehard Patriots fan.
07:38Keep them humble.
07:39It's his second year.
07:40Give him a little more, more, you know what I mean?
07:44But I would look at it like this though.
07:45It might be too early in his career.
07:46But Bobby.
07:47It might be too, look at all the MVPs that have gotten it early and haven't won a Super
07:52Bowl.
07:52Right.
07:53But I would look at it like this because people say that.
07:55He's not alone either.
07:56There were some texters that were saying, you know, I want to keep Drake hungry.
08:00Right.
08:00But here's the thing.
08:01If you're number two in MVP voting.
08:05Yeah.
08:06Aren't you like at that pinnacle?
08:09Granted, if you don't win it, like if you, if you.
08:13I don't think Mahomes winning in his first year as a starter made him less hungry.
08:17Right.
08:17Same with Brady.
08:18Like, I think once you get to that pinnacle, like if you win the MVP or you finish second
08:24in the MVP, I think you're like, all right, I'm one of the top dogs.
08:29Yeah.
08:29So you can, you know, you can go in either direction.
08:33You could still be like, you know, I'm one of the top dogs because I finished second.
08:36Right.
08:37Or I could win it and be like, I'm going to take my foot off the gas because I've done
08:41that.
08:41But I don't think Drake may has that in them, that gene in them either.
08:45Like, I think if he wins it or he doesn't win it, he's still going to be the same player.
08:49He's still going to have that drive and that hunger.
08:51And I think that whether or not you win an MVP early on in your career, if that makes you
08:55less, if that makes you less hungry, then you shouldn't be a starting quarterback for a
08:59lengthy time anyway.
08:59Yeah.
09:00I mean, I don't think that's like, I mean, he's, he's in a position.
09:04All the MVP does is just make him his agent going, Oh, we can add another zero to you.
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