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Wiggy poses this question for Patriots fans- Would you rather be the 1 seed and have to play Buffalo in the division game? Or stay at the 2 seed (not have to see Buffalo) and play @ Denver?
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00:00Here's the question. Would you rather, and Shime just talked about it, be the one seed if the
00:06Chargers win and have to play Buffalo in the division game, but you would have home field
00:13throughout the playoffs or stay at the two seed and not have to see Buffalo if you did see them
00:20in the AFC championship, or you would have to go to Denver for the AFC championship?
00:26I think the two seed. We've played great on the road. And then I know people are going to say,
00:33but it's the playoffs and home field advantage means something. And it really is a game changer.
00:39I just, Buffalo scares me. Josh Allen is scary, right? And my big thing is, I'm totally cool
00:49with the two seed because then you get Buffalo facing Denver. They have to face off against
00:55one another. And I, I understand that the Buffalo defense is good, but they've like given up points
01:01lately. They, they barely beat Chris Oladokun and the Kansas city, like second squatters.
01:08All right. I mean, they let, they got absolutely shellacked at home by the Jaguars.
01:13You're talking about the bills. No, no, no. I'm talking about the Broncos.
01:15Oh, the Broncos. I think you can score on that defense. I don't think they're quite as good
01:19as people think they are. I think the only thing they can do really, really well is they get pressure,
01:23but like, just don't throw a pats or tan. Like that's the only thing. If you throw a Riley Moss,
01:27you're going to, you're going to win. All right. So you would rather stay at the two seed and possibly
01:32go to Denver for the AFC championship. Yeah. Cause there's still a chance you get Buffalo at home
01:39at the AFC championship. I think it's also important to say, Shime and I have never played
01:42in Denver and we know the players always say that it is very difficult to play in Denver. So would you,
01:48you would rather have the one seed? I always, me personally, from being in the post season,
01:55I would much rather, and I've done it the other way. So the two times I was in Super Bowls,
02:02I, we, as a team had to go on the road in the championship games to, to win. So, but I would
02:10rather play at home in the AFC championship game. I would rather have it have to come through
02:18the home, my home field. Cause as an offensive guy, I don't have to worry about snap count
02:24because the crowd's too loud, the mistakes that that can cause in a game, you know, but I've only
02:31been in the, the, in Oh one, we played in Pittsburgh in the AFC championship. And then when I was in
02:37Carolina, we went to the Rams, was it the Rams in the NFC championship game was either the Rams
02:46or the Eagles? I can't remember, but we were on the road for those, for those games. And do you
02:51feel like it's more also routine? Like that, that guys, you don't have to be taken out of your routine
02:55sleeping on the road. I've, I've heard guys say that at the Rams and at the Eagles, Wiggy at the
03:00Rams. Yeah. Which one was the NFC championship game Eagles Eagles. Okay. And you don't have to be
03:05sleeping in a hotel. You kind of get that. Well, you're sleeping in a hotel, no matter
03:08what, but you're home. Like you're, you don't have to get on an airplane. You don't have to
03:12travel. You don't have to fly. You're going to, you know, yeah, that is, is like you said,
03:16that's more convenient because that's what you know. So here's the thing though, Wiggy, right?
03:21Like if you are the one seed, there is a chance you then have to play Buffalo and Denver in order
03:26to make the Superbowl. Granted, both games would be at home. Right. I totally recognize that.
03:30But if you're the two seed, there's a strong chance you get the chargers followed by possibly
03:37the Jaguars and then either Denver or Buffalo. Right. But did you see what you said? If you're
03:45the one seed, you'd have to play two games. Whereas if you're the two seed, you have to
03:49play three games. So it's a little bit farther of a path. Okay. Then that, that makes me just
03:56because of how we've been banged up. So three games to get to the Superbowl as the two seed
04:00versus as the one seed, you're basically in the division game, win that next game's the
04:05AFC championship, two games to get you to the Superbowl. The also other benefit of being the
04:09two seed is Matt Collins comes back quicker because you have to play that extra game.
04:13Matt Collins is now available for the AFC championship game and the Superbowl and not
04:17just the Superbowl. Which is weird because I just thought it was four weeks. I didn't know it was
04:20four games. Yeah. We had this discussion when Milton Williams originally went out because of the
04:23bi-week. It has to be four games, not four weeks. Right. Which is stupid. That makes no sense at
04:28all. Uh, there was a 608 texter that wanted, and I'm, I live to serve. So the listeners of this
04:34program, if they're asking a question, they want it answered right now. I want to make sure that
04:37they are served. So 608 texter said that they wanted us to answer. Honestly, do you think that
04:42the Patriots could take on and beat the Rams? Yes. Yes. No problem there. Because it'll be a neutral site?
04:49Yes. Yeah. And the Rams are a good football team, but like Shime said, offensively, you could score
04:57with them. And I think defensively, you're good enough to be able to slow them down. The Rams lost
05:02to the freaking Panthers. Like I think the Rams are the best team in football. In my opinion, I think
05:06right now, pound for pound, roster to roster, they are the best team in football, but like they're
05:13beatable. Nobody in this, nobody in the NFL right now is some kind of insane juggernaut. There's not
05:19even a like Patrick Mahomes looming. It's the only thing close to that is the idea that maybe Josh
05:25Allen puts on the Superman cape. That's it. But he's going to have to do it. Uh, what three road
05:31games and then a super bowl. Yeah. He, Josh Allen is the closest thing that you have to Mahomes in
05:36this, you know, in this playoff picture on both sides, you know, AFC and NFC and the Rams.
05:42The reason why the Rams are, and I'm making air quotes considered the best team in football
05:48is because, and I get it, uh, Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford have been there before.
05:54So that's what gives them that level up on everybody else. When it comes to, when you start to look at
06:01the teams that are remaining, you go, okay, Matthew Stafford's having an unbelievable year
06:06and he's been in the super bowl before Sean McVay has been in the super bowl twice, uh, a lost one,
06:13one, one, understand it where you're the Patriots. It's like, all right. Vrabel's never been there as
06:19a coach and Drake may has never been there as a, as a player. So that's why I think people give the
06:27nod to the Rams when it comes to also, I feel like people are getting way ahead of themselves.
06:33The Rams might be the sixth seed. Like that's the crazy thing. If San Francisco beats Seattle next
06:39week, San Francisco is now the number one seed in the NFC and doesn't have to play a road game again
06:45ever. Like if the super bowl is in San Francisco this year, that to me is scarier than facing the
06:51Rams on a neutral side field because the Rams are going to have to go on the road for three games in
06:55order to make the super bowl. Right. Then where we stand today, Matthew Stafford, Drake may,
06:59when it comes to MVP, you still to give that nod to Matthew Stafford. No, I mean, I think Drake
07:04may is the MVP personally. And of course I'm biased. I get that. I recognize that. But I also think
07:09when you break it down, especially in recent years, you have to finish one or two overall in your
07:16conference to even be considered. And again, the Rams are going to finish five. There's a good chance
07:21they finish five or six. Right. And then on top of it, Drake may is only like five total touchdowns
07:26behind Matthew Stafford at the moment. Granted Stafford hasn't played yet this week. He plays
07:29tonight. So we'll see how he does there, but you have a better record. Drake may has a better
07:33quarterback rating, better completion percentage, just approximately the same amount of yards.
07:39Stafford has like five more total touchdowns and I think three less interceptions. And the,
07:45the big thing is, is Stafford is throwing to Puka Nakua and Devante Adams. Puka Nakua might be
07:50one of the offensive player of the year. He's been so good this year. Devante Adams leads the
07:55league in touchdowns. Wait, doesn't Drake may, Drake may has 30 touchdowns. Uh, and plus the five
08:00rushing touchdowns. Oh, okay. Total touchdown. I'm sorry about that. Yeah. I, you know, I think
08:06they're going to look at Matthew Stafford's probably going to finish the season with, you know,
08:10right now he's at 40. So let's call it 40 plus touchdowns, five interceptions where Drake may
08:18probably finishes with, you know, 32 touchdowns or something like that. So Stafford finishes
08:23passing touchdowns, right? More interceptions. And then the only other thing I think it's because
08:30here's why I think the voters give it to Stafford. Who's more likely to be in the MVP conversation
08:38again? Stafford or Drake may, right? So they probably figure like Stafford's probably, this
08:45is his, you know, last kick at the can. He plays a couple more years, but maybe he doesn't have this
08:49type of success. We might as well give it to this guy. He's been in a Superbowl before he's won one.
08:54That's the only thing he doesn't have on his resume where Drake may has the, it looks like he can get to
08:59a Superbowl and win one again, like, you know, in his future. And it looks like he's going to be in
09:04the MVP conversation again. So it's almost like, you know, the, the, the voters go, all right,
09:09we'll give it to Stafford just because of that. I just think what Drake may has done is more,
09:12has done this season is more impressive. Eight, no on the road. Oh no, I agree with you.
09:17Overall record. The stats are basically equatable. Right. Just like last year with Lamar and Josh
09:22Allen. Right. I just, I think Drake may deserves it more. You're probably right. Wiggy voters will look
09:28at it as a quote unquote career achievement award, which is dumb. I don't think that's, uh,
09:33appropriate here, but I mean, unfortunately, look at, look at the way it was last year,
09:37right? Who statistically had better statistics Lamar Lamar, but they screwed Josh out of one
09:44the year before they gave it to him. Right. So it became, you know, like, all right, we,
09:48you know, we didn't give it to Josh. He hadn't had one Lamar. It already had one. So it's like,
09:53all right, let's give it to Josh. Right. It's, it's not, it should be the guy. Like you said,
09:58Sean, Drake may, his statistics might not be as better, but you could tell that he's, he's just
10:06as he's more valuable in the sense because he might not have the same type of talent as Matthew
10:13Stafford. Since 2000, Wiggy, I did this research when I was, uh, hanging out with Jones last Tuesday
10:18since 2000, there has never been a player to finish third in his own division and win the MVP. And the,
10:27and quarterbacks have only finished second in their division and won the MVP once. And it was
10:32Peyton Manning in 2008. And, and I guess technically Steve McNair, if you count the year,
10:37he's split with Peyton Manning. Uh, like that's it. Now I want to see Mark and Steve there on hold.
10:42I want to get their calls in, but quickly just to make sure that everybody's on the same page. And
10:46I don't know if you can see it on the Twitch line, uh, on the text line shine, but there are a lot of
10:50people that are saying that the IR rules are different when it comes to playoffs. So Matt Collins,
10:54it's four weeks, not four games. Oh, okay. I mean, I don't know. I don't know that that's
10:59accurate. Yeah. Cause the rules are like all over the place. You know what I mean? So I guess we can
11:04easily, I guess maybe we can find that out. Something that we could, uh, we could bring up.
11:09Um, it should, it's stupid anyways. If it's four games in the regular season, it should just be four
11:15weeks. What the hell is it? It's just a dumb rule anyway. Like you're still recovering no matter what,
11:19whether you're playing or not. Yeah. So, I mean, maybe that's something that they'll change because I think
11:23if I think it's dumb, don't you think coaches and players think it's dumb? Yeah. Uh, here's Mark
11:29from Medford. Mark, good morning. Hey, good morning. Happy new year guys. Happy new year.
11:34So I have two things first on the MVP conversation. And my second thing will be on the Buffalo bills
11:39yesterday. Um, I do agree that Drake Mays is, uh, is more, uh, what was the word you use? Impressive
11:47than, than Matthew Stafford for one reason. Matthew Stafford has Buka Nakua and Devontae Adams.
11:55Drake May does not. Drake May has everybody else. Understand what I'm saying? Yep.
12:02No, we get that. And the second thing on, on, on the Buffalo game yesterday. Now,
12:08Wiggy, you touched on it earlier. You said, um, that, uh, it would have been better off not,
12:14you know, not kicking the extra point because you had a better chance of getting the, uh,
12:19it wasn't guaranteed. The two point conversion. Yeah. Yeah. You'd be on the three. The two point
12:26conversion, as we saw, wasn't guaranteed either. And like you said, um, Hertz was shut down.
12:33Botting was shut down the whole second half. I would have took my chances of kicking the extra point.
12:38Yeah. I guess you could, but the Philly also did block in, uh, a field goal attempt. Yep. I just,
12:45I think when coaches do it with, but we probably should ask for able that too. We, you know,
12:49he probably can give us for what stretched, you know, to stretch insight into the analytics.
12:54I think the way that they look at it is we have a better chance being, knowing that we're going to
13:00be on the three odd line versus we either got to drive the length of the field to score a touchdown
13:07or drive a good distance to get in field goal range versus we know we're going to be on the
13:13three odd line with the two point conversion to win the football game. You know, you know what I mean?
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