Sean Combs- The Reckoning - Season 1 Episode 02- What Goes Down Must Come Up
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00:00Happy birthday to you, everybody!
00:23I always looked at him as just being like this rich Harlem cat who just want to dance and
00:48make money.
00:49No violence in him, but every time I turn around, there's violence.
01:04There's violence with his name on it.
01:10At the time, there's this tension that is going on between Pac and Puff.
01:18Puff wanted to work with Pac on a lot of levels business-wise, and Pac wasn't having it.
01:23He was more interested in Biggie and his crew.
01:29Puff was very threatened by Pac.
01:31He was very threatened, especially if you're an executive who wants the guy to make you
01:36money, and the guy is saying, no, fuck you.
01:40Around that time, Tupac was going to do a song with Lil Sean at Quiet Studio.
01:49Out of the blue, they wanted me to do the song, so I said, all right.
01:52Stopped off to get some weed, smoked the weed.
01:55Then I was getting a page, where you at, where you at, where you at?
01:58Why you ain't coming?
01:59I was like, I'm coming, I'm on my way, hold on.
02:01I wasn't thinking, why they want me here so bad?
02:04We're walking up to the building.
02:06Somebody screamed from the upper top of the studio, and it's Lil' Caesar.
02:10He's like Biggie's side man, right?
02:12We was in the recording with Big and Puff, and I'm yelling, like, yo, Pac.
02:15And he looked up, yo, what's up, little nigga?
02:18I go back in the room, I tell Big, I'm like, yo, Big, Pac downstairs.
02:21He was like, oh, all right, go get him.
02:23Getting to the elevator, and when I was about to walk out, two dudes came from both sides.
02:28Get the fuck back in the elevator.
02:30Shit.
02:32Recording artist Tupac Shakur was shot five times last night in a robbery attack.
02:36After surgery, his condition was upgraded to satisfactory, and he checked out of the hospital
02:41against his doctor's advice.
02:43I think they're trying to rub me out, really.
02:45Robbers don't leave behind $80,000 Rolexes, you know what I mean?
02:49They don't do that, in case nobody knows.
02:52Let's look at the facts.
02:56Puff is there.
02:57Pac has been shot in New York under your watch.
03:01Question would be, who knew that he was pulling up?
03:04Biggie, knowing myself, had nothing to do whatsoever of Tupac being robbed.
03:13That's just a fact.
03:15After everything that has unfolded, I have to think twice about how that situation went
03:20down.
03:21Do you think Puffy was robbed, Sugar?
03:23I believe so.
03:24I do believe so.
03:25I have proof.
03:26You can see now why someone like a Puff would want someone like a Pop out the picture.
03:32You know, Pop was vilified while he was alive, and Puff was exalted.
03:41That's the bigger picture.
03:43And that's the story that hasn't been told.
03:55Obviously, Mark Lee, AJ Brown, what have you, it allows them to get a clearer picture,
04:01stretching the defense horizontally faster, right?
04:04And it also, conversely, makes the defense think a tick longer.
04:08Yeah.
04:09Like, that shit was crazy to me, that shit wasn't there, which is a sign to me like,
04:21nigga, time to order the future.
04:22Time to order the future.
04:23That was a little building.
04:25For the building that I got, you know what I'm saying?
04:29It was a sign to me like that, but I'm saying, that shit was there like two months ago, right?
04:34Puff is in this position where he has all this turmoil, but he's not at the point where
04:52he's saying, where I went wrong.
04:55He's saying to himself, how do I get out of this?
04:59Maybe I can convince some witnesses that I'm not the guy who I am.
05:05Eventually, he's going to get to the point where he's going to ask himself, how did I
05:09get myself into this situation?
05:11And Biggie.
05:2295, he had two of the hottest acts.
05:25Craig Mack gave us flavor in your ear.
05:27Here goes the brand new flavor.
05:30Time for new flavor in your ear.
05:32And Biggie.
05:33Come up in your waist.
05:34Please don't suit up the place.
05:35Why?
05:36Cause I see some ladies tonight that should be having my...
05:39Bad boy was rising up.
05:40My little lab right here, you know, where I cut my deals and all that.
05:44Got my little headset.
05:45He's living out a dream, you know what I'm saying?
05:47One time, Sean was in his office and I'm in a little cubby hole around the corner.
05:51He buzzes me.
05:53So I get up and I go in with my papers and go.
05:57A girl is giving him a blow job at the desk.
06:00He wanted me to see that.
06:03He wanted me to see her face.
06:05And then he was able to get her to do that right then and there in the office.
06:08She leaves.
06:10I'm, what did you want me for?
06:12Ah, I didn't want you for anything.
06:14That was the beginning for me to see this is what's going on here.
06:20Can everybody in here make some noise for B.I.G. for bringing it back to the East?
06:24So the seeds for all of this was early on.
06:28And that came from people in the industry co-signing his activity because it brought money in.
06:40I don't know if y'all niggas know this.
06:43The Juicy with platinum.
06:45The Big Purple with platinum.
06:47The Big Purple in your ear remix with platinum.
06:50That whole bad boy thing was so big.
06:54Faith Evans.
06:55I'm gonna be first lady on her daddy's lady.
06:57Total.
07:00Biggie.
07:02In Greg Man.
07:04The thing over here is Greg Man.
07:06It was a consistent back-to-back-to-back-to-back.
07:13So let me just give you a day in the life of Puff Daddy.
07:17Gets up from wherever he stayed that night.
07:21Heads to the office two hours late.
07:24You might have somebody pulling him over saying,
07:26Hey, ain't you in that video?
07:27Ain't that you?
07:28Oh, yo, here go a demo.
07:29I had the big baseball bat cell phones.
07:35And the phone might ring.
07:37Such-and-such is on the phone calling from jail.
07:39Yo, I'm coming home.
07:41You might have a group standing in front of the office.
07:44Already with the microphone ready to sing.
07:46You love me, I love...
07:48Just to get their shot at Puffy.
07:51Everybody wants to see him.
07:53He is now the new gateway into music.
07:55You're gonna take all of this power and money you're getting now
08:01and play by the rules?
08:04No, I'm the rule now.
08:05I am the exception to the rule.
08:08Puff Daddy!
08:13You know what I'm saying?
08:16One day, it seemed like out of the blue, my door opens up.
08:22Sean walks in.
08:24He had a baseball bat.
08:26Had a big attach-a-case suitcase with the snaps on it.
08:30The stocks were there.
08:32We in a fucking hustle.
08:33We in a grind.
08:34Do your job.
08:35Whatever your...
08:36He wanted me to sign my 25% over.
08:39And Diddy's over me like this.
08:41He wants to stop that.
08:43He wants it now.
08:44I'm not gonna stay fucking lying down.
08:46I'm not.
08:47I can't do that, man.
08:48He said, there's a business deal I need to take care of.
08:51I need to do this.
08:52I need to get this all on one side, but I'll give it back to you.
08:55I'm gonna give it back to you.
08:57Shit ain't fucking funny.
08:58That's the problem.
08:59You don't know how to be a accountant.
09:02And he threatened until I did.
09:07People always say to me, why would you do that?
09:12Like, why did you do that?
09:14Like, that was, you know...
09:20I didn't want to give it back.
09:21I wanted to stay in good graces.
09:23I still wanted to be at the company.
09:26It wasn't like he was firing me.
09:29But I was definitely confused by it.
09:33It might sound strange, but if you've ever built something and you want it to last, you think about how to make it last.
09:42I thought he was kind of cool at first, and then we started seeing some things.
10:03Craig started becoming disenchanting.
10:07I want to congratulate Craig Mack on his Grammy nomination.
10:11No question.
10:12Yes, baby, yeah.
10:13That's cool.
10:14Yo, you got nominated for a Grammy, but we had no money.
10:19If you look at Bad Boy, Bad Boy didn't sell enough records to explain his wealth.
10:26But enough artists were on the label that sold enough records to explain his wealth.
10:34Someone's trick was, I'm going to make you a star.
10:36You sign, follow the money.
10:38That's what you're going to try to do as hard as you can.
10:41You're going to try your best, and we know you're going to try your best.
10:44So you sign your deal.
10:45We gave you your advance.
10:46At Uptown, that's the only money the artists have ever seen, that first advance.
10:50Andre had to wait it.
10:51He never saw anything else.
10:52Did he pick that up?
10:54He made it even tighter.
10:57Don't leave the girl around me, true player for real.
11:00Let's Puff that be.
11:01It's a shell game.
11:03You hide everything that is an earning.
11:06You confuse the earnings.
11:08And now I own everything.
11:09You'll go out into the world.
11:11In the shell game, you'll be looking for your money for the next 20 years.
11:14Sean did that to every artist.
11:18You're in the studio.
11:20Now you have to recoup for being in the studio.
11:23Puff owns the studio.
11:26And I have four sessions, which you owe me $400,000.
11:30If Puff records a song with his artist, he pays himself.
11:36If he's in your video, he pays himself.
11:39He insert himself into their videos.
11:42A video come on, you'll be like, I fucking hate that guy.
11:44As an artist, you can go number one.
11:46The song is being played all over the nation.
11:49But you don't have the money to go to it because you're not making the proper money off of your royalties.
11:55Craig and I hit a point where we were fucked up.
12:01No money, nothing.
12:02Hell, I was getting money from my father to take care of the house.
12:08We were all at, like, somebody's album release party.
12:13And Craig's going to tell Puff to give him a few dollars and he'll hit him back once he went and did this show.
12:19He literally went in his pocket and pulled out a knot of money this big and gave him $100 bill.
12:30You really just don't give a fuck.
12:34I think Sean had an envy for his own artists.
12:40He was jealous of their talent and wondering, like, this talent is wasted on people who don't even really know what to do.
12:47And if I had that talent in my know-how, wow.
12:51That's interesting because a lot of people Puffy's age want to grab this mic and rap.
12:56But Puffy, you wanted to do other things and you're doing a lot of them.
13:00Can you talk about his skills as a rapper?
13:02Sucks.
13:03He has zero talent musically, nothing.
13:05He don't know how to discuss.
13:06He don't know nothing about R&B.
13:07He don't know none of that stuff.
13:08He used to ask me to always be there on the sessions because I would tell the truth.
13:12I'd be like, that's not it.
13:14People would be there like, yeah, that was tight.
13:16That was tight.
13:17I'd be like, look, for real, you got a lot of people who just tell you anything.
13:21That sucked.
13:22It doesn't sound good and it makes no sense.
13:26But he always wanted to be an artist.
13:30We're about to just drop our R&B stuff.
13:32The Puff Daddy album.
13:33Yeah, what about the Puff Daddy solo project?
13:35Yeah, we don't like to talk about that to me.
13:38Sean used other methods and ways to get the way he had to go.
13:45Big on strategy, big on swag.
13:49All of those things became important.
13:51When the ball down to the music, even if I didn't touch it, I showed you what to do.
13:56So that's what he was.
13:57Damn, you know what I'm saying?
13:58What?
13:59Right here, right there.
14:00Damn, you know what I'm saying?
14:01Shit.
14:02Where's the makeup at?
14:03Makeup.
14:04Right here, man.
14:05The whole bad boy was built on him.
14:08You cannot take that from him.
14:11But I think that Puffy wanted the light, like he always wanted.
14:16From dancing the whole night, you see anybody that's boasted and loud like that, they want
14:19to be in the spotlight.
14:21It wasn't like no secret, that's what he wanted.
14:26Six foot three, 335 pound, Suge Knight has managed to become the head of a hundred million
14:33dollar record company.
14:34It's the record label at ground zero of the whole gangster rap phenomenon, Death Row Records.
14:40Suge was about that money, but he didn't want to be in that limelight like Puff.
14:46He had his own lane.
14:48You're a big guy and there are people who are afraid of you.
14:51There's probably people who are afraid of you.
14:53Back in 1988, the person who did the greatest job of protecting me was the head of my security
14:58at the time, Suge Knight.
15:00Right now I'm on the heartbreak tour with Bobby Brown in New Edition and we've been out
15:04since September.
15:05We're about to get on the tour bus and these dudes came over and he was like talking crazy.
15:09Y'all niggas this, y'all niggas that, this, this, this.
15:14And I seen Suge kind of just turned this way and gave him one of these.
15:20Bam!
15:21Like that.
15:22And knocked dude down the hill.
15:24And it looked like a cartoon.
15:25Dude was rolling down the hill.
15:27Boom, boom.
15:28It's Tim's skateboard.
15:29He's a street dude.
15:31He's a real street dude.
15:33But Suge knew talent and he knew business.
15:36They took me on tour and I learned how every person who's writing songs is getting beat
15:43out their money, like they're publishing.
15:44He was able to dovetail that into starting Death Row Records.
15:48One, two, three, bring it to the folk.
15:51Snoop Doggy Dogg and Dr. Dre is at the door.
15:54Death Row can be bigger than Motel or Sony or Warner Brothers.
15:59Death Row is going to be the biggest record company there is.
16:02Chronic album is the foundation.
16:04Before Bad Boy, Death Row was the most successful label in the business.
16:11Sean had admired Death Row and wanted us to emulate them.
16:17And that was my job.
16:19How do I make Bad Boy equal to success of Death Row?
16:24And of course, my eyes was like this.
16:26Death Row?
16:27They had a head start.
16:29They had artists.
16:30They picked superstars up from other indie labels.
16:32We're starting off.
16:34Me and him were friends.
16:36Wow.
16:37Yeah, yeah.
16:38He would pick me up from the airport.
16:39You know, I was just networking with the brother and show me a lot of love.
16:43You know, I really had thought we were cool.
16:46Me and Puffy, we used to run around with each other.
16:48He was getting into business.
16:49I was in the business.
16:51Living life without fear.
16:53Putting fire...
16:54Only a few years later, Bad Boy, Death Row.
16:57Death Row is the label that pays, man.
16:59The two hottest labels.
17:02But I would look over at Death Row and say,
17:05they're taking care of their artists better than we are.
17:08They're putting your head, fuck the artists.
17:11And my thing was opposite.
17:13It's about me and my people.
17:15Fuck you.
17:17Craig wasn't happy there.
17:20Death Row was courting him.
17:22Because Should was opening up a Death Row East.
17:25And it was found out.
17:27Shot by the face.
17:28Yes.
17:29It's the Source Hip Hop Music Awards!
17:39The Source Awards was happening in New York City.
17:46Come on, New York!
17:48And behind the scenes, people were running back and forth to the next dressing room, to the next dressing room, which were in trailers, parked outside of Madison Square Garden.
17:58How important is it to have the Source Awards?
18:01Let me just wait and find it.
18:03You got that?
18:04Come on, man. Who bagging on the door like that?
18:06What is the deal, man? Keep the door closed!
18:10And it escalated with words from the podium at the awards show.
18:15Any artists out there who want to be an artist and want to stay a star and don't want to have to worry about the executive producer trying to be all in the videos, all on the record, dancing.
18:27Come to Death Row.
18:37I'm the executive producer that a comment was made about a little bit earlier.
18:41But check this out.
18:42Contrary to what other people may feel, I would like to say that I'm very proud of Dr. Dre, of Death Row, and Shook Knight for their accomplishments.
18:51You know what I'm saying?
18:53I'm a positive black man, and I make music to bring us together, not to separate us.
18:58And all this East and West that needs to stop.
19:00So give it up for everybody from the East and the West that won tonight.
19:04One love.
19:06Sean wants to present strength.
19:08He wants to show coolness.
19:12And then there's a side of him that's all out dark.
19:16He processes things differently.
19:18He remembers every slight.
19:23Once again, y'all, please give it up for all the nominees.
19:27Before I signed with Bad Boy, I was working at the door of the club in Platinum House.
19:48Every Friday we had a bad boy party.
19:52So Puff was there.
19:54Suge Knight came that night with his friend Jake.
19:58And I was working the door.
19:59Suge was looking for Puff.
20:01Sean would try to go after people's side chicks, like a girl in Atlanta that Suge was dealing with.
20:14Sean wanted me to take $50,000 out of the overhead account so he could buy her a diamond necklace,
20:22wooing her because she was Suge's side piece in Atlanta when he came there.
20:31A real police officer in a real police uniform came and got on the shape.
20:37I said, man, you touch the homie. We're going to tear this mother up.
20:41He said, well, I got to throw him out. I said, for what?
20:43He said, he was puppy.
20:44Suge and Jake is being escorted out the club by the off-duty officer we always had there moonlighting.
20:55Jake comes out, Suge come out, Puff come out. Everybody's outside.
21:01A man appeared with one hand behind his back and he was holding a pistol.
21:07He touched Jake with the pistol and he looked at Suge like this and was shooting Suge Fran like this.
21:18He shot him five times.
21:23Suge grabbed the hold to Puffy and the choke hold and put him in the front of him like this.
21:30So he was moving Puff around like this in case you shoot him.
21:33You're going to shoot Puffy. You're not going to shoot me.
21:35Puff was like, it's going to be all right, man. It's going to be all right.
21:43Suge said, what you mean it's going to be all right?
21:47He said, tell your mama it's going to be all right.
21:50Tell your kids it's going to be all right.
21:53And then the shooter ran.
21:59Ambulance came and took Jake to the hospital.
22:02A couple of days later, he died.
22:06That's what started the East Coast, West Coast war.
22:12We're through. We're through. We're through. We're through. We're through.
22:15We're through. We're through. We're through.
22:17Tupac Shakur out of the hospital after surgery from bullet wounds is convicted on sex charges.
22:21After Puff gets shot in Quad studio. He had the rape case.
22:27A New York jury convicted the rapper of first degree sexual abuse, but acquitted him of more serious charges.
22:32Since your period of incarceration at Clinton Correctional Facility, have you taken the time to reflect on your gangster thug image?
22:43Puck and Big were friends at one time. But then once Puck is in jail, Bad Boy and all of his associations were nemesises.
22:56When I'm in jail, strangers is telling me, you know, you don't know? Big your old boy shot you.
23:04Cause they bragging. They telling their in jail. Yo, we just got Puck.
23:08Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh.
23:11Once the conflict happens, Puck needed someone strong that was going to stand with him.
23:20And it had just so happened that Suge had his own issues with Puffy.
23:26So, Suge went to jail and visited him.
23:29The whole shit was like some mob shit.
23:32mob ship into tupac a young cat i'm gonna join the family dog get me out
23:43suge knight first signed tupac to a recording contract when tupac was in this new york state
23:49prison unable to come up with the million dollars needed for bail while his lawyers
23:53appealed a 1995 conviction for sexual assault
23:57i want everybody to give a big welcome from tupac
24:07out on bail rapper tupac shakur's rushed to market double album all eyes on me debuts at number one
24:12on this week's billboard chart with the addition of tupac there's no way y'all can stop us now
24:21we're coming to the east coast to prove there is no fear overthrow the government y'all got right
24:25man which is bad boy and all that and we will bring a new government here that will feed every
24:30person in new york all right cool man all right man thanks a lot sean tried everything to get biggie
24:37upset he had to go at him with business this guy came at us i was more in a mind frame uh
24:47keep your mouth shut big you know what i'm saying just don't feed into it if you feed into it it's
24:53gonna do nothing but escalate you know what i'm saying biggie never wanted to be an enemy to park
24:59as things was coming from the west coast biggie did not want to give any shots back when pop was
25:07producing all eyes on me he called us and said i just faith evidence big's wife
25:13he's like what first though fuck your bitch and the click you claim west side when we ride come
25:20equipped with game you claim to be a player but i fucked your wife we bought something that's not true at
25:25all biggest though my husband legally i am having his baby no i'm not sean kept putting pressure on biggie
25:32you gotta answer back tupac had me pissed off you know what i'm saying and the rumors
25:39that's spreading it's on some tip like we set them up you know what i'm saying and that's crazy
25:45the east coast west coast thing was invented period because no matter what we all went to the east
25:51they came here went to the west whatever they wasn't arguing with each other but we was able to roam
25:56it was this bad boy in death row and that right there put people in danger because it made people
26:08be like f you f you and people started doing stuff for no reason because there's no it's just people
26:14that want to ride for each other and then look what happened so doing the street thing my affiliation
26:26was with the mansfield hustlers today uh we go by mansfield gangster crips now police say the drugs
26:37and violence are being spread by two long-standing rivals in the los angeles youth gang scene groups who
26:43call themselves crips and wear blue colors and bloods who wear red did you guys provide protection sean
26:52cones was a friend christopher wallace was a friend and you know when we hanging out with our friends
27:04we're gonna protect our friends so they knew and they were our associates you got beef with them you
27:13got beef with me period a number of reports have come out bad boy entertainment had actually hired
27:19crips for security work out on the west coast is that true um we've never hired crips or any other
27:27gang faction to do security for us it would be extremely unintelligent to hire um a gang some
27:35gangs to do security for you a lot of the new york guys come out to la zip is a person that i know
27:41that was puppy's man that was his guy eric von zip is a drug lord from harlem but sean told me he was his
27:53uncle he might have known janice on the fringe he might have known sean's father from those days
28:00zip had a relationship with the south side crips and then he also had a relationship with us sean said
28:09zip can give us protection going back and forth to la because he was in with the crips and we had a
28:16beef with shook knight and the bloods knight dresses in all red the colors of the drug dealing blood street
28:23gang one of the death row people got jumped by someone at a mall and that someone was from south side
28:34crips one of the crips tried to take a death row chain i think that was an order from bad boy that was
28:41an order from puff because it was specific we want a death row chain introducing the one and only iron mike tyson
28:53everybody got what they wanted that night people got to see tyson knock a motherfucker out and tyson with a
29:06left hook and selling his down it's over in the first round
29:12that's probably the reason this guy was all up in a lot of
29:15shit from fight night when you seen a tyson fight you want to fight
29:29at the fight the guy who was ripped off for the death row chain is with suge and pop
29:36and he just whispers to pocket the par that's him hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey he
29:44It was orlando anderson from south side crips who is connected with puff
29:50man said no i see park like she
29:55said descendant
30:02That was the foundational moment
30:07when all this was getting out of control.
30:10I'm out of one right now.
30:13I got a double guy shot and he's medical ASAP.
30:20Rapper Tupac Shakur was shot in the chest.
30:22This morning shot multiple times in the chest
30:24in a drive-by shooting.
30:25Death Row record label owner Marion Suge Knight
30:28was also in the car, but his injuries were minor.
30:31Craig called me up.
30:33It was late.
30:35He was out there at the fight
30:37because he was supposed to have performed
30:39at some club that Suge owned.
30:44And I guess Tupac was supposed to come through.
30:46He was like, how come Tupac just got shot?
30:51Craig was, like, scared.
30:53Who was he scared of?
30:54Probably Puff.
30:57He ended up not going to Death Row after that.
31:00Hi, I'm Tabitha Soren with MTV News.
31:06Controversial rapper and actor Tupac Shakur
31:08has died in a Las Vegas hospital
31:10of complications from several...
31:12I was in jail.
31:13I was in jail when he got shot.
31:16There was a lot of niggas in jail
31:18that was celebrating Pac's death.
31:22I'm glad that I didn't kill anybody
31:25or anybody killed me.
31:27But I damn sure came close.
31:29Police in Las Vegas say they have no motive
31:34for this latest shooting,
31:35but the rapper's troubled past
31:37will certainly be part of the investigation.
31:41Do you know who was responsible
31:43for the killing of Tupac Shakur?
31:45No, I don't.
31:47I think that Sean now, in my mature mind,
31:52had a lot to do with the death of Tupac.
32:02In 2006, I was recruited to work a task force
32:07that was going to look at a cold case investigation.
32:11At the time, Tupac's murder was an unsolved case.
32:16Gang crimes oftentimes are difficult to solve
32:18because you don't get cooperating witnesses.
32:21They want to stick to a code
32:23that typically entails not cooperating
32:26with law enforcement
32:27and then taking matters into your own hands.
32:29It ain't my job to snitch on nobody
32:33because I would never snitch on nobody.
32:35We had built a narcotics case against Keefe D.
32:39Keefe D. was kind of the shock caller
32:41for the Southside Crips.
32:43He was the most prominent drug dealer.
32:45He was very influential in his gang.
32:48His nephew, Orlando Anderson,
32:50was a very well-known violent gang member.
32:55Tupac Shakur had assaulted Orlando Anderson
32:57just after the Mike Tyson fight.
33:01So Keefe D. was potentially looking at a life sentence
33:04for federal drug trafficking.
33:07We wanted to question him
33:08about his potential role
33:10in the murder of Tupac Shakur.
33:12We let him know
33:13that he could potentially mitigate
33:15some of the damages
33:16if he wanted to come in and talk to us.
33:18And the U.S. attorney agreed
33:21that they'd allow Keefe D. to do a proper session.
33:25Keefe, today what we're going to do,
33:26we're just going to go over
33:27with a fine-tooth comb
33:29through the Las Vegas incident.
33:30We do have to emphasize to you
33:33it's determined that some of these details
33:35are incorrect and everything's off the table.
33:38A proper session is when
33:40a person facing criminal charges
33:42can answer questions
33:43wherein self-incriminating information
33:46would not be used against him
33:48in a criminal prosecution.
33:50Doesn't mean they have any kind of immunity.
33:52In the year prior
34:04to the murder of Tupac Shakur,
34:07he has had several conversations
34:09with Sean Combs.
34:10Sean Combs' affiliation
34:22with the Southside Crips
34:23came by way of a New York street figure
34:26known as Zip.
34:29Zip set up the introduction
34:31between Combs and Keefe D.
34:33And then they developed
34:35their own relationship.
34:36And Zip and Nukes,
34:38he said, this is my boy.
34:39What are you going to do?
34:40This is my friend.
34:41This is my nephew.
34:41My boy.
34:42My boy.
34:43This is Pup.
34:44And after that,
34:45they used my car on the video.
34:47Which car was I?
34:49The 64 Chevy I had.
34:52Every time I look at you,
34:54that's the...
34:55What color was it?
34:56Blown.
34:57I was actually a video
34:58when Pup was driving the car.
35:00I was your first song,
35:00whatever.
35:01He was in a Laker uniform.
35:02And he had the little kid
35:03dancing on my car
35:04when he got back.
35:06It was fucked up.
35:07And he had to...
35:08He paid to get it repainted.
35:15Pup, he calls Zip home
35:16and he wanted to speak to me.
35:18They gave it a VE2 tour.
35:20And then I...
35:21He gave us some tickets
35:22and I brought the crew.
35:23Say, I want to hear a new flavor in your hair.
35:26I want to hear a new flavor in your hair.
35:28Check it out.
35:30Yeah.
35:30To all the ladies in the place.
35:32Keefe D.
35:33He says that Sean Combs
35:34kind of makes
35:35this general announcement
35:37while they were all inside
35:40of a hotel room
35:40after a musical event.
35:43So it's Harrell,
35:45Puffy, Zip,
35:46you...
35:47About 40-some soft-siders.
35:49Yeah.
35:50That was stupid as hell too,
35:52you know?
35:54Shit, he said he didn't kill us anything
35:55for those dudes there,
35:57you know?
35:57Tupac and Shug, you mean?
35:58Yeah.
35:59And he said it in front
36:01of all those people I couldn't believe.
36:03You know what I'm saying?
36:05All home full of cribs.
36:07So this is after Jake got killed.
36:09So he was on point.
36:10He was worried about something happening.
36:11Yeah.
36:12So he had mouths off
36:13about a bunch of different stuff,
36:14so he was scared.
36:14He was scared to death.
36:16Yeah.
36:16Okay.
36:16Okay.
36:18Then there's a more specific incident
36:20that takes place at a deli
36:21on Sunset Strip in Los Angeles,
36:23a place called Greenblatt's Deli.
36:25What made it a specific,
36:27like, hey, I'm serious,
36:28I want you guys to kill these guys?
36:31Well, he told me the Greenblatt.
36:34When we got there,
36:35we were laughing at him
36:36because he was just brought a suck dick,
36:39just sucked every dick in there.
36:40He hung up kissing or whatever.
36:42We were laughing like a woman.
36:43I'm like, man,
36:43what you laughing at, dawg?
36:45Man, don't just come out here
36:47and get in any brawler, dawg.
36:49I took him downstairs,
36:51and he's like,
36:51man, I gotta get rid of those dudes, man.
36:53It won't be a problem.
36:58It was after he made the record.
37:00Hit him up, came out.
37:01Yeah, yeah, that pissed him off.
37:06Yeah, we were on a million.
37:09He tells you, seriously, man,
37:11I need to get rid of these guys.
37:12I mean, he's looking at you in the eyes,
37:14and he's, like, scared.
37:15Yeah.
37:16You tell him,
37:17we'll do it for a million,
37:18and he's like, okay,
37:21I'll do it for a million?
37:22Yeah.
37:22He agrees,
37:22you shake on him
37:23or something like that?
37:24Yeah.
37:25What happened?
37:26You know,
37:26he, uh,
37:28I meant our shit out.
37:29We'll wipe the ass out quick.
37:31You know?
37:31It's nothing.
37:34Here we go, round one.
37:36Scheduled for 12.
37:37And Tyson comes right up,
37:39right up to...
37:39He says that when Las Vegas happens,
37:42and they're all out there,
37:43and his nephew gets assaulted by Tupac,
37:45they're like,
37:45this is the perfect occasion.
37:47And he told me in the lobby that he had some jacks,
37:51and he's like,
37:52this is the perfect opportunity, baby.
37:53And he was in the hotel,
37:55and the MGM and the restaurant.
37:58There was a few New Yorkers, though,
37:59with Zip.
38:02Like, man,
38:02y'all need some help?
38:04We got this.
38:05It's your perfect opportunity, baby.
38:08Remember Zip coming?
38:09Yeah.
38:09Because of what happened with...
38:10Yeah.
38:11Yeah.
38:12We and I don't know if this was down there,
38:14and, uh,
38:15he told me in the lobby that he had some jimmies.
38:18Some what?
38:18He had a jimmy.
38:20He had a big hands.
38:22He had a little secret compartment.
38:24The thing popped out.
38:26The vehicle that Zip was driving that night
38:29reportedly had what we call a trap in it,
38:32which is a concealed compartment
38:34where you can place a gun.
38:36And it's a difficult thing to find.
38:40Zip had driven that car to Las Vegas.
38:44A few days before Tupac was murdered,
38:47Sean requested that we rent cars
38:51and have multiple drivers
38:54drive clear across the country to this fight.
39:00But I arranged through my budget
39:03to make that trip happen for those drivers.
39:06And to this day,
39:08it stands out in my mind.
39:10Why did we rent multiple cars?
39:12Why did we hire people from Harlem
39:15and other locations
39:16to drive?
39:19Can you tell us if, hey,
39:22we're going to go handle this shit
39:23or whatever?
39:24Yeah, they asked, like,
39:25if y'all want us to come?
39:27I'm like, we know where them motherfuckers at.
39:29They were telling us
39:29that they're going to be at the 662 club.
39:31Two cars going 662?
39:33Yeah, the van and the cabin.
39:36They didn't show up.
39:37We waited about 15, 20 minutes.
39:39They didn't show up.
39:41So it's like, let's go get some liquor.
39:44And we came up Harlem
39:46at the Las Vegas Boulevard.
39:49And, oh, shit.
39:50Here they come in that BMW.
39:52Can't get cars.
39:53On their way to the club,
39:55Suge is blaring his music too loud.
39:58He gets pulled over
39:59by some police officers.
40:01They essentially, you know, say,
40:03just turn down your music.
40:04No big deal.
40:05And it's at this point in time
40:07that Suge and Tupac
40:09see these girls.
40:11Like, they're Suge, Suge.
40:12Like, the police were going
40:13through his car
40:14or something or another.
40:15And then the traffic was stopped
40:18and then they got in the car.
40:19Did you see who was with Suge?
40:21Um, I thought it was Tupac.
40:23And then he was like,
40:24come on, come go with me.
40:26Come go with us.
40:26We're going to 662.
40:28And we're like,
40:29Tupac!
40:31Tupac!
40:31And we're like,
40:32there you go.
40:33Just wanted to get you there.
40:35And we just pulled up on the side
40:36and checked every car
40:37and see where they was.
40:38So what directed your attention to them
40:40was some girl shouting at Tupac?
40:42Tupac!
40:43He gave us up away.
40:44Otherwise, they would have gone away.
40:47And he leaned over
40:49on the window.
40:50We rolled around the window and popped.
40:53He showed up over,
40:54he sees you.
40:54And now he's looking at me.
40:59Fucking know what he'd tell us
41:00when we were seven or eight years old.
41:03I seen a bully going to shoot again.
41:05I thought he was dead.
41:07I thought he was dead.
41:09If you knew who killed Tupac,
41:11would you tell the police?
41:13Absolutely not.
41:16I'm going to park the car.
41:18Put the gun on the tire and look.
41:20Where'd you guys go?
41:21When it smoked, weed and rain.
41:23Yeah, that way.
41:24I thought they were in the room.
41:27And they pulled up in the ambulance
41:28while we were standing right there.
41:31Take our bullshit.
41:32You guys on the street, what was it?
41:34We on Las Vegas Boulevard at the crosswalk
41:36and they pulled up the ambulance
41:38red next to us.
41:39And we came on the car already?
41:41Tupac and Chug in the car.
41:43This is close.
41:44Did they see you?
41:46They couldn't see.
41:47We didn't give a fuck.
41:48I'm talking about the ambulance
41:50and parked right here.
41:51Red next to us.
41:52She was funny in the moment.
41:54And I have ever told nobody this to do.
42:01So you get back to LA and the next day,
42:03Zip calls you, says,
42:04meet me at the Hollywood place.
42:05Where at?
42:06I'm going to mail her.
42:07Get to my peace.
42:08You guys go over there.
42:09Zip shows up.
42:10You guys, what happens to that?
42:12Paul Kippo called it.
42:13Wasn't that us?
42:13He told them, yeah, it was us.
42:15On Zip's phone or your phone?
42:16It was Zip's phone.
42:18And Zip gives you the phone?
42:20Yeah.
42:21He was happy in there or shit.
42:24And did you ask him then about his money?
42:26When you're going to get paid or whatever?
42:27No, I don't know.
42:28I'll have to tell you that on the phone.
42:29Zip, go get her cash.
42:32Okay, so you tell Zip we need to get paid.
42:35What does Zip say?
42:36I'm going to go back home and have it.
42:37Yeah, I'll get back with y'all.
42:38According to Keefy D, he was never compensated for the murder.
42:47But he said that a partial amount of the money was intended to be forwarded to him through Zip to the tune of about $500,000.
42:57The million-dollar solicitation amount, only half of it was fulfilled because only Tupac and not Suge was killed.
43:06Keefy D has a conversation with Darius Rogers, with DMACC.
43:12He don't let the DMACC introduce to the DMACC right there.
43:17And DMACC says there had been a payment from Combs to Keefy D, but it had gone through Zip, and then that money was never forwarded.
43:28We're just hoping and waiting to see what kind of progress Las Vegas would make with Keefy D's cooperation.
43:40Nothing really happens.
43:44Ultimately, Zip dies from cancer.
43:48Thank you for coming out to Zips, and I want everybody to know that when you come here, we want to keep your peace.
43:53And Orlando Anderson is shot and killed in 1998, so it's really Keefy D and Puffy Combs are the last men standing.
44:03They can be held accountable for Tupac Shakur's murder.
44:06They can be held accountable for Tupac Shakur's murder.
44:36What's coming down to her teeth?
44:46Take that off?
44:49Alright, let's move my groove.
44:51Move my groove.
44:59Moosa.
45:00I remember in 1999, we were working in the studio on a song called Muscle Gang.
45:15The song comes on and Puff is talking in the beginning.
45:25I'm like, what is he talking about?
45:41Everything that's done in the dark must come to light, everything that goes up must come
45:46down.
45:53Yeah, I'm headed to a hunt 13th and Lennox King, I gotta catch my man, I'll see you up here.
46:16With the backdrop of East Coast, West Coast beef, Sean took Biggie to Los Angeles to record
46:35what would be the finishing touches on Biggie's Life After Death album, which wasn't titled
46:40that yet.
46:41Yo.
46:42Yo, baby, wake up, wake up, baby.
46:43Diddy, what the fuck, man?
46:44What's up?
46:45Come on, man.
46:46It's a quarter to six, we got the 7.30 flight.
46:47We're going to LAX.
46:48Whoa.
46:49Cali?
46:50No doubt, baby.
46:51We had been warned to not come to LA.
46:52There were warnings all along for the last few months that we are not to set foot on the
47:06West Coast.
47:07It was awards show season, and Sean wanted him to start promoting the album.
47:13Come on, Son Train, get up out your seats, come on!
47:19Get up out your seats!
47:21Biggie did not want to go, but Sean talked him into doing all of those things.
47:27Down low, get up out your seats!
47:28Come on!
47:29First thing, first high pop, all freaks, all the honey...
47:32They were like catcalling and booing.
47:34What's up, Cali?
47:37What's up, Cali?
47:38We were not welcome.
47:39After the awards show, Saturday morning, Biggie and I were to go to London, and we were
47:52going to have a two, three day press junket.
47:55To have Biggie be one of the first artists from Bad Boy to meet the European press.
48:00I worked on that for months and weeks leading up.
48:04We were supposed to go to the airport.
48:07That morning, I'm calling Biggie like crazy.
48:10What's going on?
48:11Wake up.
48:12He's like, yo, Puff is bugging.
48:14He just called me and told me, I want you to stay here in LA.
48:17I don't want to stay.
48:18I want to go.
48:20But Sean was adamant.
48:23Cancel the flight.
48:26Biggie's not going to the UK.
48:28What do you mean he's not going to...
48:29Clip, he hangs up.
48:31This was his MO.
48:33Ego, power, tripping.
48:36All of it because Sean wanted to do a party on enemy turf.
48:42Scared to death.
48:43That's how real it is.
48:44I think somebody's trying to kill me.
48:45I'll be waking up paranoid.
48:46I'll be really scared.
48:47I'll just be peril.
48:49That night, Big and Puffy was with us.
48:56They were having a party.
48:57I spoke to Big and I was like, yo, man, you know, what are you doing?
49:00That night, Big and Puffy was with us.
49:13They were having a party.
49:20I spoke to Big, and I was like, yo, man, you know, what are you doing?
49:27Catching L.A., man, they get down in these circumstances, man.
49:30And you just can't be walking around here freely.
49:42Everybody's mingling.
49:46I look around, I say, where's Big?
49:50I want to get out.
49:52Get out.
49:53Hey, what am I saying?
49:54Wait, hold up, hold up.
49:55I don't know if it's the street.
49:57Zoom in, zoom in.
49:58What am I saying?
50:00That's Big and Puffy.
50:07That's Big and Puffy.
50:08That is Big and Puffy.
50:09That is Big and Puffy.
50:10That is Big and Puffy.
50:11Somebody got shot.
50:12Somebody got shot.
50:12Y'all get down.
50:15Hey, what are you reporting?
50:16Yeah, we need an ambulance on Fairfax and Wilshire.
50:20Please, Los Angeles.
50:21We have a man shot.
50:22We have a shot.
50:24Okay, hold on.
50:25I'll get down.
50:25Let's go in a wheelchair, Fairfax.
50:27Fairfax, let's go, let's go.
50:29Sir, hold on.
50:30Listen, sir, I can't hear what you're saying.
50:33We're man shot in our car right now.
50:36Right now, we're trying to run into the hospital.
50:39I know the way.
50:40See the sign-up.
50:41Oh, shit.
50:42I gotta go back.
50:43You gotta turn around, Jimmy.
50:44You're going the wrong way.
50:45What the fuck is wrong with y'all, man?
50:47What's going on?
50:48I was following Big's lead on, like, you know, we're going to do this peace tour.
51:01And, you know, it didn't work out.
51:06Sean said it on can't stop, won't stop.
51:08Biggie wanted to go.
51:10Take a left, man.
51:12Big, you hear me, baby?
51:14He's lying about that.
51:18Sean wanted that trip and was pushing it for weeks and weeks.
51:23He lied about it and let me know that's a weak spot for him, and he's nervous about that information.
51:30That's the ass of the power that was right.
51:33I can't push this.
51:34What kind of this?
51:35I can't do it.
51:36He ushered Biggie to his death.
51:42Who do you think killed Biggie?
51:44All it was is a Puffy and Suge Knight war.
51:55You're messing with lives here, and that's exactly what happened.
51:58Two lives were lost as a result of what?
52:01Stupidity?
52:02When I sat down with Valetta, we briefly brought up Sean Combs.
52:08It was clear to me that she had no real respect or appreciation for him.
52:13Sean clearly didn't do all that he could have done to help out in the investigation.
52:18In fact, he was a hindrance in the investigation.
52:20Puffy was kind of stonewalling people from talking because he knows if you make inroads on Biggie's murder, you're going to make inroads on Tupac's murder.
52:31And that potentially can lead right back to him.
52:36Now we're Biggie's mom and Faith and the kids taking hold of us.
52:41Biggie's moms and Faith and the children are extremely strong.
52:44As a matter of fact, they've been strong for me and helping to hold me up.
52:49Sean assumed the position of his best friend in every article and publication, and that wasn't necessarily true.
52:59And I'm going to be there for them just like he would be there for them to make sure that they're all right.
53:04Sean said, we're going to do the biggest funeral for Biggie that New York has ever seen.
53:09And we start to put that together.
53:12He starts to see the price.
53:14And he says, we're going to do the biggest funeral, but Biggie's going to have to pay for this funeral.
53:21He was going to make the funeral be a recoupable charge to Biggie in death.
53:28This is one of my closest friends, and it's still one of my closest friends.
53:33I just, I feel his loss.
53:35I just miss him so much.
53:37Sean doing a big show looks good on him.
53:42But he's not going to tell the world that Biggie was going to pay for it.
53:55In Bestar, Brooklyn, the whole hood was outside.
54:00If you could make it there, you was there.
54:03It was a big loss for the city.
54:07I loved Biggie.
54:09Biggie inspired me.
54:10He gave me hope.
54:11He made us feel like he was from the town.
54:13You could make it.
54:14We loved Biggie.
54:15So it was like losing a family member.
54:19Biggie just wanted to be a rap superstar.
54:23He didn't want to hurt nobody.
54:26He was probably one of the only people I had really trusted for a long time.
54:29It's not a feeling that I really felt a lot like in my life.
54:33I don't really have a lot of friends.
54:35I think people think I have a lot of friends, you know.
54:39I don't think I really make a good friend.
54:41Before he was assassinated, Biggie had an opportunity to be on the cover of Rolling Stone.
54:51We were delivering the elements so that can happen.
54:54And Sean called me and said, pull that cover.
54:57I need to be on the cover.
54:58My solo album is coming in July, No Way Out, and I need to amp that up.
55:07He took the cover from Biggie.
55:14Another thing at the time, Biggie was negotiating his contract.
55:18Every day I wake up.
55:20We acquiesced and gave him everything he wanted, and then he died.
55:25Can't believe you ain't here.
55:26Sean wanted me to change the agreement to more favorable terms for bad boy,
55:35and his family and mother would not know.
55:38And since he had signed the agreement,
55:40he wanted those changes to come from out of the center of the agreement
55:45and have those pages replaced with the other terms.
55:48And I said, that's not right.
55:49I'm not doing it.
55:51Ninety days later, I'm fired.
55:53It's like I feel empty inside without you being here.
55:57I remember Michael Jackson, the Motown 25 special.
56:08MTV, Madonna Like a Virgin.
56:11And I remember Puff with Sting.
56:14Everywhere else you take, never move you.
56:21Having a TV moment in music is very rare.
56:24It elevates you to such another level of superstar.
56:28It made him rock star bitch.
56:30It's kind of hard when you're not around.
56:33Know you in heaven smiling down.
56:35Watching us while we pray for you.
56:37He became humongous, but now it's him.
56:41Now I'm the man.
56:42It was like a dream come true to see the lines, like, in front of the stores,
56:48like, people going there to get my record.
56:51It's crazy.
56:52It all happened pretty quickly for you,
56:53from being an intern to being on the cover of the Rolling Stones.
56:58Thanks for Biggie's mother, who's sitting right there, for having notorious V.I.G.
57:04You've abused everyone and used most of everyone.
57:08Put your legs in there for V.I.G.
57:10Everybody put your legs in the hand for stuff.
57:12There are horror stories like this all throughout.
57:16Cleared of gun possession and bribery charges,
57:19Sean Puffy Combs walked out of free man.
57:21Some people speak up about it, most do not.
57:24The first member is Aubrey.
57:28It's a pattern with him.
57:32Violence was a very normalized part of living in that world.
57:36Hey, yo, you're a bad boy now.
57:39Allegations of sexual misconduct.
57:41Huffy called these encounters free calls.
57:43Witnessed Diddy abusing Cassie
57:45and that they encouraged Cassie to get away from him.
57:48Everything in life, you're going to have people that are bad
57:52and people that are good, you know.
57:54You have to choose your side.
57:56That they were too poor but be a feb lifetime.
58:00They said they were a bad boy now.
58:02I said they were to be part of living in a way.
58:08They said they were a bad boy,
58:10but they said they Bath Creek
58:13and they were soוה wegensève смотрите.
58:14They said they were so close to them.
58:15They said they were like,
58:17like, they're trying to figure out their assholes.
58:18They said it was pew,
58:19they said that they were so crossover.
58:20They said they were such a special year,
58:21Everybody did.
58:23duct etiquette a book.
58:24We said they également.
58:25They said it was a wonderful действия sign.
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