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00:00Oh!
00:02Hi, everybody!
00:04Oh, how lovely!
00:06Yay!
00:08Hello!
00:10Hello, hello, hello!
00:12Good evening.
00:14Good evening, everyone.
00:16You're all very welcome to the show.
00:28Very welcome to the show.
00:30It's nearly Christmas!
00:32Oh!
00:34I think you agree the set looks rather festive, doesn't it?
00:38Do you like the tree?
00:40Can we get a close-up of the star?
00:42Oh!
00:44The star!
00:48Wrong star.
00:50Listen, we have a great line-up for you.
00:52Look over there, singing for us later,
00:54it's the great Tom O'Dell!
00:56Tom and his 27-piece orchestra.
01:02Count them.
01:04A real musical treat.
01:06But what treats have I got for you on my sofa tonight?
01:08Well, this former supermodel swapped the catwalk for the stand-up stage
01:12and recently wrote and starred in her own BBC series, Spent.
01:16And now she's on her first major comedy tour, The Afters.
01:18It's a warm welcome to Michelle De Swart!
01:24Well, there she is!
01:26Oh!
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01:30Oh!
01:31Oh!
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01:37I first hosted this Irish actress and singer as a contestant on the BBC talent show,
01:42I Do Anything.
01:43Since then, she's become an Oscar nominated star of films like The Lost Daughter, Wild Rose and Wicked Little Letters.
01:50Now she brings us the beautiful and heartbreaking Hamnet.
01:53It is Jesse Buckley, everybody!
02:04So good to see you!
02:06We're glad to have a seat, Jesse Buckley!
02:09And we have the two very funny stars of the comedy reboot of Anaconda.
02:14One made us laugh in comedy classic Anchorman
02:17and kicked Tiny Butt as Marvel superhero Ant-Man.
02:20The other is the star of hits like Jumanji
02:23and this year's blockbuster smash, The Minecraft Movie.
02:26It's our good friends Paul Rudd and Jack Black!
02:34Come on, come on!
02:35There you go!
02:37You did it, you did it!
02:39Hello, lovely to see you!
02:41And to my folks!
02:43That is gorgeous!
02:45Get that thing out of here!
02:48Great to hug you twice!
02:51There's no second hug!
02:52Oh, they're hugging!
02:53It's all now, you're waving!
02:54Yeah, waving, waving, yeah!
02:55No, no, no, no!
02:56Oh, oh, oh, it's...
02:58Mind the champagne!
03:00OK, there we go.
03:01Yeah, yeah, nice, nice, nice.
03:03I just want to hug you.
03:05And...
03:06Merry Christmas, everybody!
03:08Sorry.
03:10Merry Christmas!
03:13There you go!
03:14Yeah, that's what it is.
03:15Are you OK there?
03:16I just had a panic that my fly was down.
03:20I should have checked back there.
03:21The tie covers it.
03:26Beautifully done.
03:27No one's noticed.
03:28It's a warm welcome back to Paul, Jack and Jessie.
03:31A first-time welcome to Michelle DeSwoord.
03:33I'm so glad you're here!
03:34Yeah!
03:39We...
03:40We first met on RuPaul's Drag Race UK.
03:43You were a judge.
03:44And the fandom, the people who love that show, loved you.
03:48Did you feel all the kind of Drag Race love?
03:50I did.
03:51I did.
03:52I absolutely loved it.
03:53Also, I was like, I have trained my whole life for this...
03:56for this panel.
03:57Do you know what I mean?
03:58I was like, yes, fashion, comedy and judging.
04:02It's your wheelhouse.
04:03Exactly!
04:04And now, are you going to be OK on the couch tonight?
04:06Because Michelle has feelings for someone on the couch.
04:11Oh...
04:18Who might that be, Jack?
04:19Who might that be a screenshot?
04:21Jessie...
04:22If you could just move out of the way, Jack...
04:24LAUGHTER
04:25LAUGHTER
04:26APPLAUSE
04:35Oh, my God.
04:36Well, that seems amazing.
04:37OK.
04:38I am a massive fan and, like, early on...
04:41Sorry, guys.
04:42LAUGHTER
04:43But, like, tenacious D is, like, the blueprint of...
04:46Yes.
04:47If there was a score for my early 20s, it would be...
04:50it would be tenacious D.
04:51Oh, my God.
04:54You kept me so much company.
04:55That was so sweet.
04:56Wow.
04:57I...
04:59I feel I should apologise to Paul,
05:02because Jessie Buckley also has a Jack Black thing.
05:06What?!
05:07LAUGHTER
05:08I get it.
05:09There's enough of me to go around.
05:12LAUGHTER
05:13No, yours is very specific, Jessie.
05:17I, like, say to myself more often than is reasonable,
05:21tip it to the side cello.
05:23Oh, yeah.
05:24From School of Rock.
05:25It's a base.
05:26It's a base.
05:27Yes.
05:28When do you get to say tip it to the side cello?
05:30I said unreasonably.
05:31Like, there's no reason.
05:33LAUGHTER
05:34You know, that line...
05:35But you live, like, rent-free, saying that in my head.
05:39LAUGHTER
05:40That is sweet.
05:41That line...
05:42I remember, that wasn't in the script.
05:44Uh, George Draculius, great record producer,
05:47and also he was in charge of, like, the music on that movie.
05:51He, uh, would hang out on the set in my trailer,
05:55and he threw that to me.
05:57He was like, you should say on this next, uh, take,
06:00you should say, uh, you play cello?
06:02Tip it to the side.
06:03Cello, it's a base.
06:04LAUGHTER
06:05And I just took it straight to my head at the end of the movie.
06:07And it is some of people's favourite line.
06:10I'll tell George.
06:11George, if you're watching, thank you.
06:13Great job.
06:14Great writing.
06:15I feel like we should stop saying lovely things about Jack Black now.
06:18It's been too much.
06:19One more for Michelle.
06:20Well, no, I did just watch you take one sip of Campari,
06:23then take a tea chaser, and then drink some water.
06:26LAUGHTER
06:27I don't take compliments.
06:28It's amazing.
06:29You have a tea and a Negroni.
06:31A white tea, a Negroni, and a regular water.
06:34Nice.
06:35With a little bit of morphine drip.
06:37LAUGHTER
06:38All the food groups.
06:39APPLAUSE
06:41Well, Jack Reddy, let's go.
06:43We'll start with our first big movie tonight.
06:45Paul Rudd and Jack Black star in Anaconda.
06:48It opens in cinemas on Boxing Day.
06:51Check this out.
06:53This is Anaconda.
06:55And we no longer have a snake for our snake movie.
06:58We have to go out in the jungle.
07:02And find another one.
07:05What is that?
07:06Oh.
07:07My.
07:08My Anaconda.
07:09We're in the middle of the jungle, and we are being hunted.
07:12My Anaconda.
07:13Now we die.
07:14My Anaconda.
07:15My Anaconda.
07:16It's OK.
07:17You're safe, I'm here.
07:19We're in the middle of the jungle, and we are being hunted!
07:23My anaconda!
07:25Now we die!
07:27My anaconda!
07:29It's okay, you're safe, I'm here!
07:31Holy...
07:37Scary!
07:39It is, it's great, it's scary, double scares, big laughs, it's everything you want.
07:44How did this, it's kind of amazing that no one's done this before an anaconda reboot.
07:49How did this come about? How involved were either of you?
07:52Well, there was, the director of this movie made a movie before this called The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent,
07:58which was with Nicolas Cage, Pedro Pascal, and both Jack and I were huge fans of that movie.
08:03And when this script kind of showed up, it seemed to have similar DNA to that one,
08:09in that it was just kind of a clever meta-comedy, a take on a reboot.
08:14So, I think I kind of worked on it a little bit with them, developing it.
08:18I was interested in doing it.
08:21I was very excited that they would want to work with me,
08:24and then I heard that Jack was maybe going to be involved,
08:27and then it was just the most exciting day.
08:30And then we got on the phone and talked about it.
08:32And it's basically, it's two friends kind of coming together later in life.
08:37Yeah, yeah, four friends.
08:39Four, you're right.
08:40Steve Zahn and Tandaway Newton.
08:42And, yeah, we're these four dumbbells who love each other
08:46and had great experiences in high school making little dumb films,
08:50and we shared a love of the original anaconda,
08:53and we decided to go remake this movie out in the jungle,
08:56and then we get swept up in an actual anaconda nightmare.
09:00But it's really funny and crazy.
09:03I never read anything like it.
09:04And I was mainly excited to work with this guy right here
09:07because he makes me laugh so hard until I cry.
09:09And I thought, this is it.
09:11And I told my manager, I was like,
09:13I'll do it as long as Paul Rudd is, in fact, attached.
09:17Because sometimes they'll pull a fast one.
09:19They'll pull a switcheroo.
09:20Tennessee switcheroo.
09:21Yeah, no, Paul Rudd's in it.
09:22And then you say, okay, I signed the thing.
09:24And then they say, oh, Paul couldn't do it.
09:25He had to do it.
09:26No!
09:27So now it's supposed to be set in South America,
09:31but you filmed in Australia, was it?
09:33Yeah.
09:34Yeah.
09:35Apparently that wasn't our decision,
09:38but we had a great experience in Australia pretending to be in Brazil
09:42in the rainforest.
09:44Yeah.
09:45The Gold Coast.
09:46Nice!
09:47And you were in real swamps.
09:51Yeah, the first day of shooting for me was a night shoot
09:58and we were in a swamp.
09:59Selton Mello and I were in a swamp up to our chest
10:02and it was terrifying.
10:04And they were trying to put us at ease and they said,
10:06we had guys come out and they cleared out the swamp yesterday.
10:10Like you can clear out a swamp.
10:12You know there's things swimming around
10:15and even some of the crew said,
10:17I can't believe you're going in there.
10:18Which is not.
10:19I'm going to jump in here.
10:20There was someone on the crew who had a creepy crawly
10:22stuck to their leg and you saved them.
10:25It was a beetle.
10:28And you knew what to do.
10:29You were like.
10:30You saved their life.
10:34You're a life saver dude.
10:36It was a beetle with a horn on it.
10:42It was a beetle that had a horn on it.
10:44Yes.
10:45Only found in the Australian hat back.
10:47But then this is weird.
10:48It was a nut biting beetle.
10:53Michelle, before you got into comedy, we'll talk about this later,
10:58you were a model.
11:00And didn't you have a beetle thing?
11:02Yeah.
11:03Yeah.
11:04Because they would just get you to do like random things in modelling
11:06where they were just sort of like, you're lucky to be here.
11:09We're going to do this shoot now.
11:10And this is editorial.
11:11It's high fashion.
11:12So we're going to put these beetles on your face.
11:14Stay very still and look gorgeous.
11:16Try and look nice.
11:19But if you've got a beetle on your face, you're like...
11:22You're like smiles.
11:23You're like...
11:24There's a lot of stuff like that.
11:27And then I did another shoot where they wanted me to sit on like a bit of wood.
11:33And as I sat down on it, it was in Texas and I was like,
11:36oh, there's all these ants crawling on me.
11:38But obviously, from England, I didn't realise there's ants that bite.
11:41Do you know what I mean?
11:42Yeah.
11:43What's the worst that can happen to you in this country?
11:45Pigeon shits on you or something.
11:47So I sat there and I was like,
11:49they're burning.
11:50They're burning.
11:51They're like, oh, it's a fire ants nest.
11:52And I was like, I should probably get up.
11:53And they were like, it's the last shot.
11:54If you could just stay there.
11:56And look gorgeous.
11:58And they're like, yeah!
12:00Yeah, fun times.
12:01Fun times.
12:02I don't know why you gave it up.
12:04Jessie Buckley, you grew up in the Irish countryside.
12:07So are you good with animals?
12:09Um, I feel like out of respect, they, you know, I should leave them alone.
12:16OK.
12:17Not because I would do anything to them, but they might do something to me
12:20because they're animals.
12:21That is true.
12:22Well observed.
12:25But have you ever, have you had a bad experience or something?
12:27Well, actually, my mom grew up on a bull farm.
12:30What?
12:31Yeah.
12:32And she had like their...
12:33Can I just say, that seems problematic.
12:37Why?
12:38Well, you need more than bulls on your bulls.
12:41Well, they were no pedigree bulls.
12:42I don't know.
12:43It's like a gay cow bar or something.
12:45You love it, Chris!
12:48Only bulls?
12:49Only bulls?
12:50I don't know that.
12:51I'm like...
12:55Are they just bred bulls?
12:57Yeah, they were like prize bulls.
12:59So they'd bring them to shows and kind of wash them and brush their hair and show them around.
13:05He's a gay cow bar.
13:06Yeah!
13:07But I remember once my grandfather brought me out into the fields and put me on his tractor and I'd never really been around a load of bulls.
13:20Like a mass...
13:21Good.
13:22And he went to open the gate and close it and there was a load of hay on the back of the tractor.
13:28And he, all of a sudden, this like, it felt like a hundred bulls were running towards me.
13:36And since that moment, I just think, you know, out of respect, I don't need to wrangle anything.
13:43Leave them alone.
13:44Anything, really.
13:45I leave them alone.
13:46I leave them alone.
13:47Wise, wise.
13:48And Paul Rudd, what is the connection to Ireland, that you love Ireland so much?
13:51I just think it's the greatest place.
13:52I just love Ireland.
13:53I first went there on my own.
13:55I loved Irish music and I was just very drawn to Ireland.
13:58OK.
13:59And then my father spent a lot of time in Ireland because he was a Titanic expert and he used to take groups of people throughout Ireland to Belfast to Harlan Wolfe where the ship was built and he'd go down to Cove, which was the last port of call.
14:11Yeah.
14:12Yeah.
14:13So we spent a lot of time in Ireland.
14:14Yeah.
14:15Was that his job?
14:16Yeah.
14:17Yeah.
14:18Wow.
14:19That's very niche.
14:20Yeah.
14:21It is.
14:22It really is.
14:23He used to work with the airlines and it was a big history buff.
14:27He loved history.
14:29But he was a real Titanic enthusiast and that was, he started kind of giving these Titanic historical tours to other people who were as interested in Titanic as he was.
14:40And late in his life, that was what he did.
14:43Yeah.
14:44And is Rod an Irish name?
14:45Is Rod an Irish name?
14:46I think there's other Rod sausages.
14:47Is that rigged made of Jessie Buckley?
14:48I never had a Rod sausage.
14:49No.
14:50I bet you have.
14:51I can ask, was your granddad, was he Irish?
15:02They were English.
15:03Everyone was British.
15:04Blast a burn.
15:05How are you?
15:06Did you live in America then?
15:10Yeah, I was born in America but both my parents are from London.
15:13And so I grew up in America but we actually spread my dad's ashes in Ireland as well.
15:19Wow.
15:20Which is an interesting thing to try and get your dad's ashes through TSA.
15:24Did you say what it was or did you pretend it was something else?
15:27I did.
15:28No, I did.
15:29We put it...
15:30It's like a duffel bag.
15:31And I put it on the belt going to fly on the airline.
15:34I thought, oh, I probably should have seen this.
15:36And they wanted to examine it and check it out.
15:38They said, what's in the bag?
15:39I said, it's my dad.
15:42In Ireland they would have loved that.
15:44Oh, yeah.
15:45You know you're on the right flight home if you're going home for a funeral.
15:47So you would have been welcome.
15:49That's why it's the best.
15:50That's why it's the best.
15:51That's why it's the best.
15:52And now, there's a tradition, I feel, Jack.
15:55Every time you do a movie, somehow it inspires you musically.
15:59Yeah.
16:00Have you come up with an anaconda song?
16:02I have, actually.
16:03Do you want to hear it?
16:04No.
16:05Quiet on the set.
16:15Anaconda, the most beautiful creature in the wild.
16:22Anaconda, you're the most popular with boys and girls.
16:28You bite and you swallow and you take it down.
16:31You are the scariest snake in town.
16:34Big as a bus and hearty too.
16:37I made up this song just now.
16:40Beautiful.
16:42I love it.
16:44I lied.
16:45I lied.
16:46I didn't have a song.
16:48That was EVD extras.
16:49EVD extras.
16:50Did you know that I was making it up as we went along?
16:53Because I lied.
16:54I did not have a song.
16:55Oh.
16:56Oh, it's very good.
16:57Anaconda, the scariest snake in the line.
17:03I think it's a hit though.
17:04Yeah.
17:05It's pretty good.
17:06That's how all songs are written.
17:08At first, you don't have a song.
17:10And then, did you see the Beatles documentary?
17:12When you watch Paul McCartney, Sir Paul, come up with Get Back right in front of your eyes.
17:18That's what you just saw.
17:21Beautiful work.
17:22Beautiful work.
17:23A reminder, you can see Anaconda in cinemas from Boxing Day.
17:27Jesus.
17:28Woo!
17:29Meanwhile, Jessie Buckley, Jessie Buckley gives an extraordinary performance in Hamnet.
17:36It is in cinemas from the 9th of January.
17:39And Hamnet is this incredibly beloved novel by Maggie O'Farrell.
17:43When they approached you, were you familiar with the book or?
17:46No, no.
17:47I met Chloe Zhao first and then they sent me the book.
17:50Yeah.
17:51And for people who haven't read the book, and lots of people have, tell us about Hamnet and
17:56kind of its relation to Shakespeare and sort of, you know, why it's so special.
17:59I guess it's a peek behind the curtain of who the family man Shakespeare, William Shakespeare,
18:05might have been and, um, and where Hamlet might have kind of been born from, which was,
18:12Shakespeare actually did have a son called Hamnet who died of the plague.
18:16I had no idea about that.
18:18I thought it was about a Danish prince.
18:20Yeah.
18:21Um, and it's about love and loss and motherhood and, uh, art and the need of kind of storytelling
18:31to hold the parts of us that we can't hold by ourselves.
18:34Um, that's it really.
18:35And it is, it's such a beautiful film and you are God you're good in it.
18:39And, uh, Paul Meskel, we should say, plays, uh, William Shakespeare.
18:42And the Hamlet, Hamlet thing, those names, am I right, they were interchangeable at the time.
18:48Yeah, yeah.
18:49And the same, and you're Anne Hathaway but you're Agnes.
18:52Well, she was kind of written out of history as, you know, I think her father called her Agnes
18:59but she was known as Anne Hathaway and as the woman that kind of pulled Shakespeare back,
19:05which is, you know, not the truth.
19:08Well, we've got a clip.
19:09This is you as Agnes with Paul as, uh, William Shakespeare and, uh, the children,
19:14because you have three children, they've prepared you a surprise.
19:18One step, come to your right step.
19:21One step.
19:22One more.
19:23One more.
19:24One more.
19:26One more.
19:27One more.
19:28One more.
19:29One more.
19:30One more.
19:31When shall we three meet again, in thunder, lightning or in rain?
19:38When early bird is time, when the battle's lost and won!
19:43That will be right, sir.
19:47Where the place?
19:49There to meet with Agnes!
19:52I come, Green Mountain!
19:53Had it called an eye!
19:55HE SINGS
20:07Well done!
20:08That was amazing!
20:10APPLAUSE
20:16And watching the film, like, beautiful, sweet scenes like that
20:20have this kind of added poignancy, because as a viewer, you know that
20:24something
20:25Really tragic is on the way. Yeah, I actually had no idea. They're going to shoot that scene
20:30They were so giddy all day because they've been rehearsing it for like the week and except
20:38Bodhi who plays Susanna the my daughter in the blue really didn't
20:46Like she's like my emo teenager in that I'm kind of proud that she's like, oh my god
20:54But it was such a gorgeous shoot and those kids are incredible and Paul is promising
21:07We should say though if you go to see this film be prepared it will put you through the emotional
21:12ringer, there's a
21:14Long section at the end where your Agnes and Hathaway is watching Hamlet this display that will be and there's a moment right at the end
21:22That I you and Chloe the director you came up with together. Do you know what I'm talking about the the hands? Yeah
21:30Yeah, I mean the end we didn't know what to do
21:34It's quite scary because it was like the whole end of shooting the whole film and we'd had this amazing journey
21:39We're like god. We've got to like land the plane now
21:42How do you like land the plane after this and go to the globe which is epic in just its name?
21:48Yeah, and there was a moment at the I mean there was these incredible extras 400 extras
21:56And then there was a moment where I was standing in the middle of the of our recreated globe and there was all these
22:02incredible faces around me and
22:04And I sent chloe max Richter's on the nature of daylight and from that piece of music
22:13This ending came where they all
22:17Reach 400 people behind me reach their hands to try and touch the play and I guess touch the things that they've lost in their own life
22:26Yeah, in some way. That's a really beautiful moment and this wonderful things happen to you. You're now a mom
22:32We became a mom after the film. Congratulations
22:41When you watch the film now as a mom does it kind of make it even more kind of emotionally upsetting for you?
22:48Or is it kind of the same?
22:50No, it's pretty the same. No, I'm joking
22:53I watched it first when I was eight months pregnant
22:57And I was not okay
23:00There's nothing you know embarrassing to cry at your own film, but I was pregnant so I'm
23:07But it felt it was you know, it's about a lot. It's got a lot of birth and death and
23:12motherhood and children and
23:14um, I wanted to be a mom for a long time and
23:18Um, I got pregnant like a week after I wrapped
23:21Wrapped this film so it was pretty yeah, it's beautiful. Well, it's lovely that those things are all kind of entwined now
23:28Yeah, talking of hamlet shakespeare, uh, paul rudd you've played hamlet haven't you?
23:33I did in a scene. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, I did it. You were really good in it. Yeah
23:39I cried when I did it too
23:41I did uh, I did uh, I did I did do a a production of it, but it was very posh wasn't it?
23:47It was pretty posh. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it was
23:50It wasn't that posh. Well, wasn't it directed by somebody very famous?
23:55God
23:57Are you talking about sir ben kingsley? That's exactly what i'm talking about. Yes
24:02Yeah
24:06I did a I was going to school. I did a production of hamlet
24:09I was working on a scene ben king sir ben kingsley came to do it. Don't forget the sir
24:13Oh, sir ben kingsley came to do a um, like a master class
24:18and
24:19He directed it. We worked on it
24:21And it was just for an afternoon really and um
24:24And when I was starting my career
24:26Uh, I had a manager a bit of a broadway danny rose type manager
24:32Uh, who said we need to create a cv for you
24:35And he would and I had no credits and he said well, what did you do in school?
24:39And I was like this I did a thing with hamlet
24:41Uh, ben sir ben kingsley came in and directed it
24:44And so he put down ham i played hamlet in a production
24:50Directed by sir ben kingsley
24:53Looks good on a resume. He sounds brilliant
24:56And I was uh, I felt very funny about it
25:00Um, but those that seemed to kind of hang around and my biggest fear in life was that sir
25:07Well, maybe not my biggest fear in life, but
25:09Big fear was that he he might
25:12Somehow see my cv
25:17Never went away until now
25:21He watches every week
25:24Now I wouldn't have thought jack back had never done shakespeare, but you have done shakespeare. Yes
25:28I was a theater major at uh, ucla theater department, and we did a production of uh
25:34uh
25:35Uh much ado about nothing that's the one and I played a character
25:38I can't remember what it was called
25:40But I remember uh that I was very very good in the play
25:45I can't remember any of my lines
25:46I like I like when you refer to your own character as it
25:50It's just a very foggy memory
25:52But I remember the director can't remember his name either
25:54He was like was it sir ben kingsley
25:58It might have been
25:59I think it was sir john gilgood actually
26:01And he said jack
26:02When you do this part
26:04Just look straight ahead and don't move a muscle
26:08Let all the emotions come through your eyes and say the part plainly
26:13And if you do this jack and hold on to these lessons throughout your life
26:17It will serve you well in a career that spans far and wide
26:22And I obviously did not take that to heart
26:26I've spent my career overacting and not staying still and speaking the lines blatantly
26:32But it was a great experience
26:34I'm sure it will yes
26:38Very good beautiful
26:39Yeah
26:40Because michelle
26:42Michelle you do acting now
26:44You've been doing things
26:45Would you do shakespeare have you done shakespeare
26:46Nah
26:49And this is what like I feel like I don't have the the range for that kindness this you've got one accent with me and it's this
26:56You know what I mean
26:57Like even this when you talk about hamlet and you's anne hathaway i was like
27:01Is this just that's an act that's an actor
27:03I kept on thinking that too
27:04Thank you
27:05People are kind of pissed off that i was playing here not anne hathaway
27:09Is that is anne hathaway named do i sound thick wait no
27:14She must have been named after being
27:16Well obviously after the hollywood actress yes
27:18Right yeah
27:19Um yeah no none of that for me no period dramas here
27:24I think it'd uh there would definitely be some questions are coming up like
27:27No you could crush some gaspere
27:30You and i maybe this is our next movie
27:33Yes
27:33What would have romeo and julia
27:35Juliet
27:36Am I too old to play romeo
27:37No
27:38No
27:38I can't wait
27:40I think we would be
27:41Some sin and delilah
27:45I feel so awkward in the middle of this
27:47I have since the beginning i asked if they wanted to swap they said no
27:53I'm bringing it back to hamlet i bring you back to hamlet because i've got to say
27:56Congratulations you've got amazing reviews and golden globe nominated next month
28:08So listen good luck with that and all the other awards that i'm sure are in your future
28:14Hamlet is in cinemas from the 9th of january everybody very good
28:23Now here's the thing uh being an actor on stage is you know difficult and all those things
28:28But uh michelle de swart you've tackled possibly the toughest stage of all the catwalk
28:33Oh
28:34No
28:34No
28:34But like you didn't know you didn't know you walked for like really big designers and labels
28:41Like tell us some of the people you did
28:42Yeah
28:42Um well not well i'll say that but yes i did it i did it um walk for
28:49Missoni gucci versace
28:53D&G or don't think about it yeah it's the real deal yeah yeah yeah yeah and then gravity came along and i pivoted and now i'm doing stand-up
29:03Was it the fire ants that took you up
29:06You say gravity um gucci 2002
29:11You're walking and this is quite a famous thing before we get into it we should say you're fine about this this isn't triggering or anything
29:17Not well 2002 can you imagine if i still triggered now
29:23How dare you it feels like yesterday yeah no i'm fine
29:27So should we bought the clip should we talk about it before we see the clip or see the clip you know what it's worth chatting about it first
29:37Okay now maybe set it up no go on go on should we just see it no talk about it okay so
29:44I'll say this i got i was pulling pints in a pub all right i've got scouted they sent me to milan
29:51Everyone was like she's the new model of the moment we're all gonna book her but no one had asked me if i could walk in hills
29:59Now you've been knighted with the word model then you're that you know i had a walk like a bookie you just like got a winning or something
30:07I was like yeah like get your time i had a wide gate
30:12It's what i will say and uh and so i go to milan i book all of these shows and everyone's like yeah you're a model now i'm like yeah proper
30:20and uh
30:22at the time tom ford was um
30:24designing for gucci and uh yeah proper jack yeah
30:29and uh i'm standing backstage and i'm in these hills and i was like
30:32like this i'm gonna fuck this problem
30:36there's no way i can walk in these and it was on this shag pile carpet and tom ford was there and i was
30:41like he went how are you doing i went i'm not good
30:45not good anyway don't worry you're just gonna stand there and everyone's gonna die and i was like
30:49okay and then you go out onto the runway now most runways are like
30:53really short but because it's gucci it's like the longest runway ever and i start i start
30:58walking and i just thought imagine if you fell and with that stacked it shall we should we watch
31:06it now let's watch it let's watch it so here's the shag pile carpet the beautiful uh here we go
31:14here comes here comes michelle de swart oh no no she's okay she's okay she's okay she's okay
31:19oh oh oh no no no no come on you can do this wait wait wait oh oh oh oh oh and then shoes off your shoes off oh you're a woman oh yeah
31:33i love this i love this oh still working it still working it
31:39yeah you are beautiful thank you
31:43but also it says so much about the fashion world you stack it and one man just kind of went
31:49like no one tried to help you no no but the weirdest thing is i've been doing stand-up for
31:55over a decade now hands down the funniest thing i've ever done that is rude like if that is that
32:02that's me at my comedy best so this is the comedy's going great you're on your first major tour it's
32:08called the afters you've already done a bunch of it and it kicks off again in is it march march okay
32:15the afters why is it called the afters by the way well as mentioned i was a model used to live in
32:19new york so i'm an ex-party girl and uh i think much like an afters it is me chatting at you for an
32:25hour and uh hopefully funny and entertaining oh my god and hopefully your sister well because she
32:32doesn't sound like a great audience member your sister oh my yeah all right so but thank god now
32:37i do bigger rooms but when i first started like upstairs in pubs and stuff like that very glamorous
32:43um i was doing one gig my sister came to support me and um every time back then i used to do a lot of
32:49stories about my mom and stuff and every time i'd just be getting to the punchline i'd be like you
32:53know like my mom and my sister would shout out the punchline and just like i was just like what are you
32:59doing because she knew the story do you know what i mean she was like oh yeah yeah like that and i was just
33:03like this is pure sabotage and then she would get a massive laugh and then they would look at me and
33:09i was like no that's it i don't i don't have anything after this yeah fun times and you talk about your
33:17mom your mom got you uh into jobs now did she get you she got you a cleaning job yes yes she that was
33:25her job already yes merry christmas mom um so yeah one of my i've done a lot of i've done a lot of
33:32different jobs before i started modeling but uh one my first job was a cleaner in an office building
33:38and uh my mom was like right i'm gonna do this day you do the other days right and um my mom uh she's
33:43a changed woman now but my mom really got a kick out of nicking and uh we're in this corporate in this
33:51like corporate office building and my mama sent me in i think i was pretty young like 13 14 at the time
33:56this is my first job and she'd be like right all right so when you do the second floor if you go into
34:01the kitchen they've got a really good dinner set now i've got the cups all right and you've got to
34:07get the plates okay that's your job you've got to nick the plates and i was just like i was such a
34:12you know like a anxious kid i'd like be freaking out it was like i was doing a heist in the loose
34:17you know what i mean i've got to nick these plates my mom so we can have the full set which is weird
34:22because she doesn't cook so it's sort of like what are they here for yeah did you just have them on display
34:27what no no i don't know you know but we did get the full set so well done yes that's very proud
34:35um and talking of early uh jobs things jack you got into acting really early i did i was a child
34:44actor it's true yeah i'm a little defensive i know yeah no we child actors get a bad rap
34:51but uh i survived and i'm fine nothing wrong with me was your first job the commercial for pitfall
34:59yes that was my first booking uh and but i want to clarify i i didn't have the kind of parents that
35:04were like get out there and make money for us you kid you can make and bring back home the bacon for us
35:11we want to go put it on the slots i drove that car i was a real ham i loved putting on a show from a
35:22very early age and i wanted to go on auditions i wanted to get out there and be i wanted to be on tv
35:28so that the kids at school could see me and uh and my stepfather david katz actually drove me around
35:35town to go on the auditions and i went i remember that audition like it was yesterday i went in there
35:40and i and i did the lines and they said uh could you do it again jack and this time do it really
35:45cocksure really overconfident and i was like i think i can do that and in my mind i was like they
35:51fell into my trap my like main move is overconfident guy so i did it again and i just poured on all the
35:58sauce just last night i was lost in the jungle with pitfall harry surrounded by giant scorpions
36:05and cobra rattlers and man-eating crocodiles i still remember all the lines we've got the commercial
36:11we've got the commercial we've got the commercial we've got the commercial and you do remember your
36:14lines i do and and you know often when you watch these things you kind of think oh that you know
36:19the person is unrecognizable this is just jack black young i mean it's just it's just it's
36:26it's extraordinary uh by the way do check out the state-of-the-art computer graphics in pitfall the
36:33game here we go just last night i was lost in trouble with pitfall harry surrounded by giant scorpions
36:39and man-eating crocodiles if you haven't met pitfall harry you're missing the year's most incredible
36:44video game adventure pitfall for the atari 2600 and in television pitfall designed by david crane for
36:50activision so good yeah yeah it was also the best game yeah pitfall was the best game you know what
37:04i realized while we were watching that just now is that i've been doing jungle themed since i was a
37:10child i know there's something weird about me and the jungle because we got this movie also jumanji
37:16don't forget jungle themed and that's all i can oh king kong i was in king kong jungle themed yeah
37:21what's going on here at tropic thunder tropic thunder
37:27have you been to the jungle
37:28um no i went on a safari once you did that's the jungle it was and it was one of the most terrifying
37:38things i've ever done yes it doesn't sound like you'd like that jesse well i actually typed in solo
37:44traveler adventures into the internet and found myself on the salu reserve amongst the maasai tribe when i
37:51was about 22 and i is that in africa the saloon is that yeah yeah in tanzania and i remember i got
37:58into my tent in the first night i did not sleep for a week every sound i was like
38:06and they give you like a pre-chat to be like do not open your tent there is hippos right there they
38:11will eat you the mama has just had her baby she's really hungry and you're like okay
38:17and the only thing i could find i like me i got really drunk the second night because i was like
38:22i just gonna have to like basically pass out to get to sleep but the only thing that i could find
38:28solace in was they had like a crate and there was like the tiniest lock on this crate that i found
38:35to lock the bottom of the tent like that was gonna like solve the hippo will go i'd like to but no
38:47uh listen it's been lovely talking to you all and don't forget michelle desward is on tour from next
38:53march go see her okay it's time for music this brit award-winning singer-songwriter has given us
39:02a string of hits including another love and black friday here performing his current single when i close
39:07my eyes it is tom o'dell
39:28the house it feels so empty
39:31the house it feels so empty
39:36cause now i live alone
39:43the kid next door keeps asking me where you've gone and i tell him i tell him you've gone home
39:54but when i close my eyes
39:59standing there in front of me
40:04when i close my eyes
40:06it's almost like it used to be
40:11then i realize
40:14you're just a ghost
40:18they'll be
40:23a fragment of my mind
40:27when i close my eyes
40:34and the days could be so lonely
40:41so i stay out all night
40:49my friends say take it slowly
40:56and i tell them that i'll try
41:01but when i close my eyes
41:04you're standing there in front of me
41:08and when i close my eyes
41:12it's almost like it's almost like it used to be
41:16and then i realize
41:21you're just a ghost
41:23maybe at most
41:27a fragment of my mind
41:31when i close my eye
41:33and every thought i think
41:37it cuts me like a knife
41:41and i just want to bring
41:44i want to bring
41:45and bring you back to life
41:49tonight the sun will set
41:52tomorrow it will rise
41:56and when i close my eyes
42:06and all that i've got
42:07and all that i've got left
42:09is when i close my eyes
42:11you're standing there in front of me
42:13and when i close my eyes
42:15when i close my eyes
42:28the fragment of my mind
42:32and when i close my eyes
42:36when i close my eyes
42:40when i close my eyes
42:44and when i close my eyes
43:00whoa
43:02tom o'dale
43:05how beautiful was that
43:07and thank you to the orchestra
43:08all 27 of them
43:10and the conductor
43:11beautiful tom
43:12come on over tom do
43:14here he comes
43:17wow
43:19that was epic thank you so so much
43:22from that's michelle
43:23jesse jack
43:25that is tom o'dale
43:27right there
43:29oh they love it
43:31nice say hello there you go
43:32sit down too
43:33that was gorgeous and that orchestra sounded amazing amazing
43:36the polyphony orchestra everybody
43:38polyphony orchestra
43:40like as a musician
43:44that must feel great having that sound behind you
43:47yes i rest very peacefully last night uh knowing that they were going to be here
43:52um but yeah they're incredible some of the great greatest musicians in london over there so it's a real
43:59privilege to play with them thank you so much
44:02well thank you for being here and i
44:04i don't want to give paul rod a complex or anything but it's another jack black fan
44:09on the couch
44:11what yeah yeah
44:13it's not a cobblest
44:13oh my god yeah my cup runneth over with bonds
44:19it's a farm club so tell me what is it about me that you like so much
44:23i was i was 12 years old when school of rock came out oh nice and playing the piano was
44:32it was not the coolest of choices and that scene when you're playing the doors yes dude you were the
44:41age of those kids yeah movies yeah it was like i was the perfect it was the perfect time for me to
44:46watch that film oh man let's let's rock today yeah yeah
44:55that track that is one of the extra tracks on the new deluxe version of a wonderful life
45:01a wonderful epilogue yes and is this deluxe one out now too that came out yeah a few months ago okay
45:07brilliant and uh that song here's the thing recording that track in particular apparently was kind of
45:13challenging yeah i i've actually like tried to put this song on my last three albums and it's a very
45:20emotional song and um it's kind of about grief and losing someone um but every time i came to record it
45:28i would sing the verse is fine and then as soon as i get to the chorus i would sing it in an australian
45:34accent so the kid next door keeps asking me where you've gone and i tell him i tell him you've
45:43gone home when i close my eyes and i was okay with that i played it to my wife and she said you
45:53you cannot put this song out it sounds like a joke but i think it's that thing where it was so emotional
45:59i didn't even want to like confront it so i was subconsciously trying to avoid and sort of making
46:06voices i don't know funny voices and listen real thanks for being here because you say you just literally
46:11just finished an arena tour yeah like a week ago yeah yeah where was that you just finished in uh
46:16i finished in uh oh god i can't remember good night antwerp yeah and uh you are off to australia
46:25you've got the accent already australia yeah yeah we're going we're doing some shows over there in
46:30january you should sing the australian version of that song while you're there check out some of the
46:36swamps they're beautiful this time of year yes um listen good luck with the tour thank you very much
46:44thank you for that performance tom o'dell everyone
46:49thank you very much
46:51that is really it before we go just time for a christmas visit to the big red chair hello
46:57hello hi what's your name i'm lynn from chippenum and wiltshire excellent the hopes of a nation are
47:03resting on you and your christmas jumper uh what do you do in chippenum and i'm a part-time travel money
47:10advisor a part-time travel money advisor it sounds like it'll be full-time but no no no only has a part-time
47:19i'd like to ask her about my travel money but i can't she's not on today
47:22oh yeah call her on tuesdays that's her best day yeah she's rested okay off we go with your story
47:31okay uh so i was weirdo quite early and i spent a few years just bringing up my children yes and
47:36eventually i thought well i need to get back out there yeah and i met a young man and after a little
47:42bit of time i decided it was time to allow him to stay over so i uh said to him well give me 10 minutes
47:47i'm going upstairs and just follow me up in 10 minutes so i dressed uh seductively in underwear
47:54that you keep just for the bedroom complete with high heels oh my god yeah and i sort of sprawled
48:02seductively on the bed and just waited and i had my eyes closed in anticipation of what was to come
48:09and i heard the door open kept my eyes closed because i wanted to build the moment and all of a
48:15seven my teenage son says can you call me at six in the morning i've got an early shift
48:20that's a good story it's quite sweet you can walk you can walk go on
48:27okay that really is all we've got time for if you'd like to have a go in the red chair yourself and
48:31tell your story you can contact us via our website please say a huge thank you to all of my guests
48:36tonight tom o'dell michelle de schwartz jesse buckley jack black and paul rudd
48:53we'll see you again on new year's eve with music guest alison limerick the young star of adolescence
48:58owen cooper funnyman tim key and will arnett great british actress carrie mulligan and tom hiddleston
49:04and oscar winner laura dern until then have a very happy christmas bye bye
49:12yeah he's back on new year's eve at 10 30. now do you hear what i hear it may just be bbc sounds
49:19whether you're after mariah and wham or a favorite carol your favorite christmas music is waiting
49:34what i hear it may be for you
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