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Rob Reiner's 1980s Dominance in Cinema

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00:00To discuss director Rob Rainer's passing with us now is Christian Toto, award-winning film critic and host of the Hollywood in Toto podcast.
00:10Christian, good afternoon to you. So you've described Rainer's run in the 80s as Spielberg-level great. Can you talk to us about that?
00:18Yeah, I mean, the titles speak for themselves. These aren't just movies, these aren't just hits, but they've become enmeshed in the culture, The Princess Bride, Misery, Stand By Me, This Is Spinal Tap,
00:28a lesser-known film of his, which I thought was wonderful, was The Short Thing. You know, so many movies, so many indelible performances, and he was able to kind of bounce between genres.
00:39You had a mockumentary when they really weren't making that many mockumentaries. You had a rom-com, you've had thrillers, you've had dramatic performances.
00:47He did A Few Good Men. He could do it all. And, you know, that power didn't last through the decades. In recent years, his films have been, the quality just hasn't been there.
00:57But, boy, when he was on target, there was no one quite like him.
01:02And you also say Rainer was a master at comedy, right? But his film Misery, you know, maybe a perfect Stephen King adaption. Any comments on that?
01:12Yeah, you know, I think for many years, Hollywood struggled to get that Stephen King tone just right.
01:18You saw films that came close, some that were clunkers, but Misery just seemed note-perfect.
01:23Of course, he had two great performances there, James Caan and Kathy Bates, but just really capturing what he brought to the written word and translated almost seamlessly to the screen.
01:33A great story, a great movie, you know, a two-hander, as they say, with not a lot of action in theory, but just complete tension and also something that was oddly relatable.
01:43What if a superstar was trapped by his biggest fan and she wasn't quite all right?
01:48So it's just a memorable movie and just an example of how good he could be directing films.
01:53And, of course, you know, segueing from a sitcom actor into a popular director, another weird and not always successful transition, he made it look easy.
02:02And why do you think that is? If you can just condense it into one thing, if possible, I mean, what made Rainer unique in cinema specifically?
02:15I mean, I think he had great instincts. Obviously, growing up, his dad was Carl Reiner, one of the funniest people around.
02:20That certainly helped, you know, fine-tune his sense of humor, working within the Hollywood realm on a sitcom that was beloved for so long.
02:28It's just talent, absolute talent. And, you know, his movies, sometimes a director may make great movies and the public doesn't quite latch on to them.
02:38They're cerebral, they're esoteric, they're beautifully crafted.
02:43But I think his movies really checked all the boxes. The critics loved them, the people loved them.
02:48They became just symbolic of what the best of the best could be.
02:51I mean, when you think rom-coms, it's When Harry Met Sally. That is the prototype.
02:55When you think about Stephen King adaptations, Misery, I think, is the best.
02:59You know, when you think about nostalgia movies, Stand By Me really captured what it meant to be a young person growing up confused.
03:06And the fact that it's not set in modern times didn't matter.
03:10Because when you're young and you're a boy and you're just kind of growing up and learning what life is all about,
03:14all those different emotions are there. And he captured them. And that's why it was official.
03:19And again, that was another Stephen King adaptation, but just a very different kind of Stephen King story.
03:23Do you think what you said just now, that will be what's going to be remembered of him, his legacy?
03:30If you could just elaborate on how people will remember his contributions.
03:35Yeah, I mean, the films speak for themselves, his ability to tell different stories and different genres.
03:42You know, in recent years, he just hasn't had that fastball.
03:45He hasn't really been able to kind of keep that streak alive.
03:47And that's not uncommon. Sometimes artists kind of lose their mojo.
03:51They're able to, they can't really compete with themselves in the past.
03:54But I think when you think about Rob Reiner, that run in the 80s will just speak for itself.
03:59I struggle to think of another director who had those, that many hits that scored with the public, that had movies that endure.
04:07You know, there are many movies that you watch it now.
04:08And you think, oh, that hasn't aged well, or I connected with it as a younger person, but it doesn't really speak to me now.
04:15But his films really just stand the test of time.
04:18I mean, you know, the Tom Hanks, I'm sorry, the Billy Crystal, Meg Ryan connection in When Harry Met Sally Alone was just beautiful.
04:25And that film had those great New Year's Eve moments that we'll probably be watching again in a few weeks.
04:31Okay, let me just ask you one more question.
04:34Out of all of his body of work, what is the best film to you?
04:40And tell us why.
04:42You know, this is Spinal Tap is so special.
04:45It's so funny.
04:46It's, you know, it was a format that we weren't seeing a lot of at the time.
04:50It introduced these newer comic actors, Harry Shearer, Michael McKeon.
04:56It's just, it really kind of captured rock in a way.
04:59It poked fun at it.
05:00It really spoke to where music was at that particular moment.
05:04My only sadness about that movie is I wanted to introduce it to my kids.
05:08But, you know, rock and pop and the whole music scene is very different today.
05:12I don't think they would get all the jokes per se.
05:15It's a movie that is beautiful and has aged well on the surface.
05:18But I don't think it connects with today's marketplace as much.
05:21But boy, it's, I mean, you could go on and on quoting that movie, the great scenes, the jokes.
05:27It's just as good as it gets.
05:29Yeah, I mean, he was a national treasure and he will be sorely missed.
05:33Well, Christian, thank you for speaking with us today.
05:36My pleasure.
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