«Давайте докажем, что они ошибаются». Министр экономики Испании ответил США
Министр экономики Испании заявил, что Европе необходимо сохранять единство и двигаться к дальнейшей интеграции после того, как администрация Трампа обвинила континент в экономическом упадке из-за чрезмерного регулирования и слабых лидеров.
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04:48В этом году, что impact будет происходить в США?
04:49Мы имеем в виду сфере структурная reform,
04:52агентарные лаборатория, бизнес-environment,
04:54стартап права,
04:55которые создают условия для этого growth
04:58быть увеличивающим наступлением.
05:00И на инвестирование сказал,
05:02в Стреинвестирование,
05:02$80 миллионов в свой транспорт,
05:04чтобы мы могли бы действительно
05:06потратить на то, что мы думаем,
05:08которые мы считаем, что в будущем,
05:10в том числе, в digitизации и в green,
05:12конечно, энергии,
05:14которые также являются ключевыми веками,
05:16которые также будут вступать в США.
05:18Вы не считаете, что это не будет вступать в течение дня?
05:20Ну, вы знаете, что есть два элемента.
05:22Один, мы будем discutить
05:24о финансировании международного финансирования
05:26для Европы, и это начнется в декабрь,
05:28в Европе, как и в Европе.
05:30Мы считаем, что есть нужная
05:32для Европы, чтобы быть
05:34оборудованная и оборудованная,
05:36в том числе, в качестве оборудования
05:38вы знаете, что Драги
05:40установил финансирование
05:42для наших инвестирований
05:44above 5% GDP,
05:46и наш бюджет barely reaches 2%,
05:48и это включает все разные элементы.
05:50Поэтому мы должны быть консистенны
05:52на двух сторон.
05:54Мы будем бороться за оборудованием МФФ.
05:56Вы также оборудованы на декабрь?
05:58Конечно, и есть много элементов
06:00associated с элементами
06:02уничтожения,
06:03или уничтожения,
06:04в том числе,
06:05и есть,
06:06автор,
06:07что в Европе
06:08может быть,
06:09-всех,
06:10как и с улучшением
06:11вещества,
06:12потому что мы видим
06:13что мы имеем
06:14средства в этом уровне
06:15экономического рынка
06:16и в том числе,
06:17во время того,
06:18по заменению
06:19от further
06:20сочетания,
06:21и в том числе,
06:22чтобы мы переходим
06:23на странице,
06:24на данный момент
06:25по этой скорости
06:26В этом году,
06:27в том числе,
06:28в том числе,
06:29в том числе,
06:30в том числе,
06:31You told me, we will have a budget, we are going to present and it's going to be successful.
06:35It's the end of the year, there's no budget.
06:37You've been rolling over constantly now.
06:39Your critics would say, this is not just wrong, but it's undemocratic.
06:43Well, you know, we are now in the process of really putting forward the draft budget.
06:47But we've heard this before many times.
06:49I know.
06:50There is a specific, a clear commitment from the president to actually, beginning of next year,
06:55really present the draft budget in Congress so that we can discuss it and hopefully agree on it.
07:00You know, also, luckily, what we have in Spain is these provisions within our law
07:05to be able to roll over the budget from one year to the other.
07:09And that actually...
07:10But a rollover is an exemption.
07:11The criticism is that this is becoming too normal and that is not very democratic.
07:15What are your response?
07:16The constitutional obligation is to present a draft.
07:18We will present a draft.
07:19And from then on, hopefully, we can agree on it because it's important for citizens to be able to see
07:24what the policy objectives are in terms of money, in terms of where we allocate,
07:28what items are prioritized throughout the budget.
07:32In fiscal terms, we're complying also with EU fiscal rules.
07:34So we are within the group of good pupils with good students in terms of fiscal and also macro imbalances.
07:41That's just as...
07:41But you know it's rare to not have a budget for so many years.
07:43We know it's an exception, as you just called it.
07:46And we will try, again, to have it approved.
07:48We will present it and we will go ahead with our partners and associates within the parliament
07:54to be able to get it ready.
07:56But you're also different to the rest when it comes to migration.
07:59In the European Union, we've seen now a much harder line.
08:02Obviously, there's a conservative majority now that is pushing for repatriation.
08:07Asylum seeking has to be monitored much more closely.
08:09Family ramification, it's the same.
08:11In Spain, however, we're seeing the numbers when it comes to migration growing.
08:15But you say that is adding to the economy.
08:17Is migration for you an opportunity or a problem?
08:20Migration is a big opportunity for Spain.
08:23You don't think it's a problem?
08:25To the contrary.
08:26I mean, migration has proven to be a very positive factor for these very positive figures in terms of growth for Spain.
08:32And you can look at them in absolute terms.
08:35So how much it has contributed to growth.
08:36How much it has contributed to growth in per capita terms as well.
08:39There's an analysis from the Bank of Spain saying that between 0.4 and 0.7 percentage points of per capita growth for the past three years,
08:47which per capita growth in total was around 3 percentage points, 0.4 to 0.7 were due to migration, were thanks to migration.
08:54But some argue it's because the vast majority of migrants coming to Spain are coming from Latin America.
08:58So there's a cultural, linguistical also to common ground.
09:03Some would say there are some cultures that are more difficult to assimilate than others.
09:08And that is a problem.
09:09When you hear that, is there an undertone of racism in it?
09:12Well, there is.
09:13You think the migration policy coming out of the European Union has an undertone of racism?
09:17No, I think those sort of statements have an undertone of racism.
09:21And I think we should really combat that through data and through evidence.
09:25And, you know, what those statements or what that evidence tells to me is that the better the integration policies, the greater the positive impact.
09:35The focus is on returns in Europe.
09:37Is the migration policy wrong now?
09:39You know, from the Spanish perspective, that's somehow the best way for us to be able to understand or put these discussions forward.
09:47What we know is that the bigger the effort in terms of integrating migrants through regular flows,
09:53the bigger the impact in social but also in economic terms.
09:57And irregular, is there a second chance or is this just a question of returning people back to their country?
10:02That's what was agreed this week.
10:03You know, when we think about the Spanish case, you mentioned, for example, people from Latin America.
10:0870% of the migration flows are coming to Spain from Latin America.
10:12But, you know, when you ask people, there is a disconnect between the data and the reality in terms of migration.
10:18And that leads immediately towards a more negative bias in terms of accepting positive migration policies or integration policies.
10:25And let me just give you the data.
10:28So this survey, which was run last May by a think tank in the Basque Country,
10:33was asking Spanish people what they thought was the share of migrants in Spain.
10:37So the answer was twice the actual share of migrants.
10:41And they were asking what you think the unemployment rate within the migrant force is.
10:45And the answer, again, was twice the actual unemployment rate.
10:49And then the third question, which was very interesting, was what do you think is the share of migrants
10:53that is using transfers or subsidies or benefits from the state?
10:58And the answer was five times the actual rate.
11:00So, again, there is a clear disconnect between the reality.
11:04Why is that happening?
11:05Well, I think one of the elements that is happening is, of course, is these false narratives
11:12and these fake news in terms of the impact of migration that are leading towards a negative bias.
11:18And that's not grounded in data.
11:19There are no negative implications to migration for you.
11:22Well, again, you just have to look at the figures.
11:24And in our case, when you look at the impact of migration, of course, there are challenges going forward.
11:29And the integration challenge is a key one.
11:31But you face that challenge by really betting on integration and development policies in origin countries
11:38to allow for those people to have job opportunities in their own countries
11:43and, therefore, also reduce the danger that they have to endure in coming to our countries in an irregular manner
11:50and also reduce these irregular flows.
11:52Well, Minister, thank you so much for joining us on Uranians.
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