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L'Arménie et l'Azerbaïdjan détaillent leur plan de paix et le nouveau corridor soutenu par les USA
Dans une interview exclusive accordée à Euronews, les principaux négociateurs arméniens et azerbaïdjanais ont expliqué en détail comment un processus de paix autrefois inimaginable s'est transformé en une stratégie commune pour la stabilité et la transformation économique.
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Dans une interview exclusive accordée à Euronews, les principaux négociateurs arméniens et azerbaïdjanais ont expliqué en détail comment un processus de paix autrefois inimaginable s'est transformé en une stratégie commune pour la stabilité et la transformation économique.
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00:00armenia and azerbaijan surprise the world with a historic peace agreement after decades of tragic
00:08war but the secret ingredients to what was called an impossible peace have never been made public
00:14but now euronews has the opportunity to sit down with two of the key actors to discuss it further
00:20in this edition of eurasia talks we're joined by armen gregorian the secretary of the security
00:26council of armenia and hikmet hadjev the assistant to the president of azerbaijan
00:32gentlemen thank you for joining us on this episode of eurasia talks i wanted to begin by asking you
00:41how did your first contacts happen and what made it possible to unblock the standoff that we've been
00:48seeing hikmet thank you uh jane for the opportunity to talk and i remember our first good days when
00:55we come together and discussing our agenda of the peace it was right after the 2020 uh military
01:00engagement uh we in brussels had a good chance to meet and with the support and facilitation of our
01:06eu friends uh but since that time uh opens instruction of our leaders we had a one concrete agenda
01:11how we can advance the peace and also how we can put aside the disagreements that we had together
01:17and azerbaijan that time uh we over again demonstrated our good willingness and also uh initiative
01:23uh about on a peace agenda and with our mayamanian colleagues also through other channels as well
01:29we were discussing advancement of the peace agenda together armen obviously with those um discussions
01:35you know what was it that your leadership and yourselves you know how did you come to the
01:40conclusion that peace was possible both in year one in bako i'm sure the leadership have been
01:48thinking how to bring peace and stability to the region my prime minister have been publicly very
01:55intensively talking how how much our society needs peace and uh we have been seeing that there is the
02:03same will in bako and we have been intensively working to that direction and here uh i think the first
02:12meeting was 21 22 uh between me and hikmet and now we are sitting here and discussing how to
02:20institutionalize the peace how to move forward in that context so the the success is great and we are
02:27also celebrating that we're here at the doha forum and obviously i heard you talking earlier and i think
02:33hikmet you refer to each other as colleagues that's a bold step forward and a real positive thing to use
02:39that terminology with each other in this journey together yeah really indeed uh uh with an armenian
02:46uh side and azerbaijan system of washington we are working on the concrete uh elements of the peace
02:51agenda that we have agreed in washington and azerbaijan demonstrates in a full uh commitment that was
02:56an agenda that we have agreed one of the important topics on our agenda is about in a corridor and again
03:01we do hope that uh within a corridor from azerbaijan side is in a considered and as engaged corridor
03:06and also not a trump corridor where we are working together for an implementation we think that it
03:11will change in a completely uh the uh transport uh map of the eurasian continent and also in armenia
03:18azerbaijan bring us together and working together and will also contribute to build a mutual uh economic
03:23dependence and uh in a broader sense it will also create uh the economic benefits of the peace agenda
03:30for uh both of our countries for our broader region but we also what we understood that and a peace
03:35is like a strategic commodity but we are delivering to the international community
03:39but in the meantime we cannot render ourselves as a comfort zone and we know where to uh institutionalize
03:45and solidify the peace on the ground and to maintain it and also uh to bring it to the future
03:51generations it requires a lot of hard work from both countries and also both societies but in the
03:56meantime what we see about a full uh commitment from our countries to work on that dimension what is the
04:01realistic timeline for finalizing this peace deal the peace deal uh in abu dhabi discussions uh this
04:08year in samma we had a open and broad discussion with an armenian side and my president and armenian
04:13prime minister and also uh delegations that we're attending uh we discussed an important competence
04:19including the uh elements uh that uh still on our agenda outstanding issues i think that we are on the
04:25right track towards and a complete uh you know signing of the uh peace agreement but more than
04:31that what i would like to highlight that we have a real peace on the ground what does an experience
04:35of international community shows that on many post-conflict situations and conflict situations
04:40there are agreements and arrangements on the paper but there is no real peace on the ground but we have
04:44a real peace on the ground de facto peace on the ground we should solidify it and we should strengthen
04:49it and also bring it to the future generations armen how would you describe the political
04:53relationship and atmosphere between the two countries all the agreements that we had anywhere
04:59all of them are in public and uh the peace process uh that uh have been in a process for a long time
05:10i mean bilater we have been working towards the peace and actually we will continue working on that
05:17direction uh with aserbaidjan first of all to sign the peace agreement and ratify it
05:23uh at the same time we consider unblocking very much important the big beautiful deal that we
05:31reached reached in washington and now we are trying to implement is very much important and part of that
05:38deal is uh trump root for international peace and prosperity the connectivity project that will
05:45bring uh economic benefit to the region we are working on that direction i hope we are now
05:52intensively discussing with americans uh the project implementation of the trip uh as soon as we
06:00finalize we will start uh implementation project i hope it will be very soon uh and uh after that uh the
06:09whole technical process will start uh and we will work on that direction to unblock the region to open the trip
06:18which is a very huge and very important historical project in our region so we continue to work on that
06:25direction uh really armenia-zerbaijan peace agenda we are also not acting in a diplomatic limbo we are
06:30also uh looking at the international experience and international precedent and good friday agreement
06:35between the in 1998 united kingdom and republic of ireland it also paved the way uh with the current status of the
06:42good relations between the two countries we are also making there a certain precedent from that
06:47arrangements as well and looking forward for the resolution of one outstanding issue that's still
06:52matter of the concern of azerbaijan side i think that once it's resolved we will not have any longer
06:57any stumbling block on our agenda of the peace but nevertheless let me repeat it over the game that
07:02we have a real peace on the ground and currently working through the parameters of the strengthening of
07:07the peace with world powers competing for massive regional economic opportunities what are your
07:15strategies for each of your countries hikmet really our strategy is that not to make the region of the
07:21source caucuses as an arena of the competition or the confrontation our agenda is to make the region of
07:25the source caucuses as an arena of the cooperation and engagement and a partnership think about
07:30armenia-azerbaijan peace agenda in the global context of the conflicts and wars at least one success story
07:36one chapter of the conflict is closed there is a real peace on the ground and we are also inviting
07:41all our international partners including the global powers to support our peace agenda on the ground
07:46whether it's in a connectivity projects whether it's in a normalization within the two countries
07:51and also new economic partnerships and as armenia and azerbaijan we are working on the fundamental
07:57concept of the economic benefit of the peace i think with our international partners can also contribute to
08:02that look uh it's very much important that uh the the peace project is an inclusive process uh we don't try
08:11to exclude anyone in order to let them to fight it uh so this is very inclusive process uh in the context of
08:19the peace we have suggested the peace crossroad project which is about uh connectivity in the region and within
08:26that context by the way trip is part for for that project and uh in that context we are working to implement
08:35the project and see the regional uh partners engaging in that and seeing the unblocking of the region
08:43as an inclusive process that's very much important and uh i'm sure that will bring more stability in the region
08:51and we don't see uh our region as a competing place because uh competition in a good sense of that
09:00economic from economic perspective it's good but from other perspectives sometimes it can very firstly
09:08damage to the countries that are living in the region so historically speaking the region of the
09:13souls caucuses historically and unfortunately it was in a battle space of the big empires and big powers now uh
09:20it's not only related to the current state of the region but now azerbaijan at least from his side
09:25and i certainly see the same willingness from the armenian side as well to transform the region and to
09:29make it marketplace investment place for the cooperation of then everybody what guarantees can you give the
09:35people of your countries that this peace is going to last and their safety i think that uh uh our signature
09:43it matters a lot and it was in front of the international community in oval office my president
09:47and he declared azerbaijan's and over declared and azerbaijan's full commitment to the peace agenda
09:53for us wars and a conflict is over and sovereign and territorial integrity was a must for azerbaijan
09:58it has been restored and therefore uh such a uh full commitment was in a washington agenda uh
10:04that we have agreed as a demonstration of our important political will and it's also message to
10:09our society and also uh we have received with any message from our society as well right after the
10:15washington's there was a huge jubilation jubilation and also a positive reverberation in azerbaijan society
10:21above and a peace and people also supporting that the political uh establishment both in yerevan in
10:28baku they have strong will for the peace uh that was demonstrated before washington but also uh reconfirming
10:36once more in washington showing that there is a political will uh we also see as my colleague hikmet
10:43mentioned uh both in the society in armenia and in azerbaijan there is uh support to the peace we are
10:51sure that implementation of the regional projects like uh trip and other ones will increase uh interdependency
11:00and strengthen the peace and also uh economic benefits that both societies will have uh it will have an
11:09input in the long run to uh sustain the peace and strengthen the peace we are seeing that uh we are
11:15moving towards that direction and the proof of that is also that me and hikmet in doha forum also sitting
11:22in in your uh studio yes sitting in yours to the speaking about the uh economic benefits uh of the peace
11:33signals that uh we will have uh long term well you have both discussed the importance of that trip to
11:40washington and there's a very famous handshake in front of president trump what was the atmosphere
11:47like in that room could you have heard a pin drop you know what what was the feeling it was really i
11:53can as far as i can remember it was really jubilee's atmosphere yeah and it was a uh you know last 30
11:58years and both of our countries suffered from the conflict and the war and our peoples also now
12:02suffered and finally we put a final nail to the corner to the coffin of this conflict it's now over
12:08and it was also once again a demonstration of the stronger political will and firm will
12:13and in this case we also highly appreciate the role of the president trump and american administration
12:18they also put in a political weight of the american government on their peace agenda in the same
12:23manner it also had a huge reverberation and spirit of the washington has a huge reverberation in
12:28azerbaijan society nevertheless there wasn't a time uh difference between the bakwa and washington this
12:34is that time but entire azerbaijan society uh was waiting for that and they were celebrating in the
12:39social media in media in azerbaijan in a sense it's coincided uh it was in a public uh you know jubilation
12:45and also official uh full commitment of uh azerbaijanic government it was on a peace agenda think about
12:51one chapter of the conflict on the international stage is over amen was it the same for armenia it was a
12:56celebration day and uh you know it's a big beautiful deal because everyone benefited from that armenia
13:05benefited azerbaijan benefited united states benefited and international community i'm sure in the long run
13:11will benefit that's why it's a deal because all sides benefited and it was a celebration as hikmet
13:18mentioned the time change time difference between uh yerevan and washington is similar as in bako
13:25and people were staying late night in order to watch that and i would be very frank i have received so
13:32many messages uh in my whatsapp and other application people saying me thank you and celebrating that uh
13:40it was very much obvious also in social medias you can see that people are uh celebrate yes there are
13:47people who have been also skeptic yeah but the most important thing is that uh most of them most of
13:55the public have been celebrating and uh after that we are seeing that uh the continuation of the dialogue
14:03uh the continuation of the positive messages for example after the washington meeting both vice
14:10prime minister of armenia and azerbaijan visited both armenia to azerbaijan lately uh our vice prime minister
14:18gregorian visited to gabala region and had a meeting there so all of these are signals and public are
14:26receiving it also positively and moving towards the peace and i'm sure in the long run people will
14:32also see the benefits of that economic benefits of the peace we're here as we mentioned in doha and
14:39the qatari government have been very heavily involved in negotiations and mediations internationally
14:46you know how important and where do you see the future of that international involvement going in
14:53terms of you know the qataris the eu and the us well we appreciate all international efforts that
15:01contributes to the peace agenda but what was in the beauty of armenia azerbaijan agenda is that it
15:06wasn't a bilateral process there wasn't a complete belief in the two capitals but first baku and
15:12yerevan we need a peace and we need a peace for our future generations for our peoples and we started
15:18our active bilateral diplomatic engagement it also brought us to the washington discussions and some
15:24other agendas that we have again we can highly appreciate the role of the international community
15:28all our partners but armenia azerbaijan i'm sure that based on the confidence that we are trying to
15:34build and based on the mechanisms of the interaction we built will continue advance on our bilateral
15:39peace building agenda we very much appreciate international community support but without that
15:45bilateral thing that was very strong and i'm sure that abu dhabi leaders meeting paved way for the
15:54washington meeting and that was a very great success in that context and we very much appreciate also
16:01international communities uh engagement we are here in doha forum meeting with having panel and also
16:09sitting down in this studio speaking to the public and sending uh positive messages in overall uh that's
16:17also an effort coming from the qataris and they are very much helpful and we very much i'm sure i'm
16:22speaking on both of us that we very much appreciate that qataris gave this platform to us uh to speak also
16:31publicly and that's very much important it's been a real symbolism of hope what message do you think
16:37what you have achieved is giving to those around the world who are in war with at war with each other
16:45well it's always difficult to provide your own uh advice but we can provide our own uh example uh and here
16:53i think that both of the countries we demonstrated leading by example yeah and there wasn't a really
16:57difficult and bloody war between the two countries and last 30 years two countries suffered from the
17:02deficit of the security and the deficit of the peace but with a political uh will and demonstration
17:09of the firm and stronger political will peace is achievable and as a result of the just peace has been
17:14ensured between armenia and azerbaijan now is enough time and also work of the two governments and two
17:20two peoples to make a long lasting and irreversible peace on the agenda on the global agenda and also
17:25regional agenda therefore peace is doable peace is achievable and it also requires uh full commitment
17:31to the norms and principles of international law and providing legality and legitimacy between the
17:36countries yeah it's very difficult to find two conflicts that are uh totally similar but you can
17:43find always some similarities and one of the important thing was that uh strong will both in yerevana in
17:50baku was very much helpful in moving towards the peace uh the leadership in both countries have been
17:57intensively working even though a lot of difficulties you can imagine and in all conflicts it's very
18:03difficult to move forward because uh of the problem also of trust in all conflicts sides don't trust each other
18:11uh but we have been working towards this uh as in uh famous music it said another brick to the wall uh in
18:22positive sense of that quote uh we have been working towards that trying to build that uh wall of trust uh trying
18:30to work to move in that direction that was very much helpful bilaterally creating that trust and then also
18:39the international community support if you could send one message to the people of your neighboring
18:45country what would that be to continue working on strengthening the peace between uh armenia and
18:53azerbaijan yes we went through the conflict we went through the pain uh both of us and uh we need to
19:03understand also that there is a chance of peace we have uh both to work on this direction uh institutionalize
19:13the peace and work on that direction and also uh see the benefits of the peace pigment what would you
19:22send as your message to your neighboring people in armenia from afo azerbaijan war and conflict is over
19:29currently azerbaijan works on the peace and we are uh sure and hopeful that there will be irreversible
19:37peace between the two countries and it will be eternal for the future generations of the both
19:41countries and still we have a certain balance uh we understand that and we are at the end of the
19:46fact but we should look into the future hikmet armen thank you so much for joining us on eurasia
19:51talks on euru news what a pleasure to see you both here today thank you so much thank you so much
19:55thanks thanks for having us you're very welcome
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