Sean Combs- The Reckoning - Season 1 Episode 01- Pain vs Love
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00:00:00Things are happening and it's like, I want to fight for my life.
00:00:17I want to fight for, you know, justice, not guilty.
00:00:20I don't want to have a life to be able to live.
00:00:23You know, it's really going to be hard for me to take more hits than I take it, God forbid,
00:00:28get in front of a jury and have a chance.
00:00:31And so I'm having this emergency call because something has to give.
00:00:35We need the core theme to be, you didn't do anything wrong.
00:00:39You know, you didn't do anything wrong on any front.
00:00:42And you've come to New York to face things head on.
00:00:46If anyone's ever paying any attention to what you've actually been doing,
00:00:49you've handled this with complete honor.
00:00:53I don't think it's working.
00:00:56I've listened.
00:00:58I've been a superb client, as you've said.
00:01:01I jumped on the plane. I'm coming to New York.
00:01:03But I'm just like, I'm just running around waiting for a shooter drop.
00:01:11We're losing sight of the big picture, man.
00:01:13It's the middle of September and there's still no indictment.
00:01:16You don't know. Then you have to have a spokesman.
00:01:20You have to have some sort of comms to constantly be pushing that mark.
00:01:24Because you may just be a person that just does, you just may watch CNN.
00:01:28You know what I'm saying?
00:01:29And there's like, there's 9 billion people in the world.
00:01:31And 7 billion of them is on Instagram and TikTok.
00:01:36And so you're at the wrong place looking to see what the people with the possible jurors are thinking.
00:01:43We have to find somebody that'll work with us, whether they're from this country or from another country.
00:01:48It could be somebody that has dealt in the dirtiest of dirtiest, dirty business of media and propaganda.
00:01:58I've seen the media portray me like I'm a gangster.
00:02:02I'm a, or at times I'm a cold individual.
00:02:07I'm just a shrewd businessman, which is just not the case.
00:02:12I'm a dreamer. I love closing my eyes and dreaming.
00:02:18I don't, I don't really deal with reality.
00:02:21You know, I think that you're a great guy, a great role model.
00:02:23Diddy P Papa, Papa, Papa Diddy Pop.
00:02:26I'm sorry. I don't know what you're calling yourself these days.
00:02:28American dream come true. Thank you, America.
00:02:31It's like we have a movie and you're speaking this language.
00:02:35And you know what I'm saying? We need subtitles.
00:02:37And we're not providing the audience with subtitles.
00:02:39And I invited you to this movie and you in this thing.
00:02:42You don't know what's going on.
00:02:43You just see, you just see the images, you know, quickly.
00:02:52Now it has a whole life of its own.
00:02:55The Department of Homeland Security conducting a raid at a house connected to Sean.
00:03:00Breaking news. Another woman is accusing Sean Diddy Holmes of sexual assault.
00:03:03Trafficking forced labor, kidnapping.
00:03:05The fourth lawsuit in the last movie.
00:03:07The fifth lawsuit. The seventh lawsuit.
00:03:09There are now more than a dozen civil people.
00:03:10The conduct that does indeed span two decades.
00:03:12I'm taking eight nuclear bombs, you know what I'm saying?
00:03:16Straight to the head.
00:03:18And I'm tired of going back and forth with y'all, with the lawyers.
00:03:21That's just not true.
00:03:22Okay, so, so, so, so, so, so, so.
00:03:25No, no, no, no, no, no. Let me tell you something.
00:03:28Let me say this.
00:03:29I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a referee.
00:03:32So I'm going to get off the phone right now.
00:03:33Listen to me.
00:03:34I'm going to get off the phone right now.
00:03:36And I am going to let you professionals look at the situation and come back to me with a solution.
00:03:42No matter what, no matter what nobody said.
00:03:45Let's, let's just here and there.
00:03:46Y'all are not working together the right way.
00:03:48We're losing.
00:03:49I'm not working now.
00:04:10Look at the camera not working.
00:04:13Yeah, just get little cutaways of them, like, looking from the, you know what I'm saying?
00:04:36That's what I'm saying.
00:04:43All of us got to go to the maker, and we will be held accountable for the things we did
00:04:59and we didn't do.
00:05:02Sean Combs is an asshole.
00:05:06He is the motherfucker you're not going to like, and you're not going to get the fuck
00:05:10along with if he doesn't get his way.
00:05:12If I ever disrespect nobody to stand with me, motherfucker.
00:05:16He quickly became my hero.
00:05:17Whatever I want to get, whatever I want, I have to get.
00:05:24If y'all had a fucking chance to meet this guy, you would be like, this nigga's energy
00:05:29is everything.
00:05:30I got to get up and go.
00:05:31I got to get up and do it.
00:05:34What's next?
00:05:35What's next?
00:05:36I got to get it.
00:05:37He was presenting this freedom that black people hadn't had.
00:05:44Like, we hadn't experienced a black man being able to say, I don't want that.
00:05:49I don't want no problems.
00:05:50What you calling?
00:05:51Hey, yo, dog, what are you talking about?
00:05:52You telling me, like, I'm on some bullshit?
00:05:54I ain't on no bullshit.
00:05:55So when I first met him, he quickly became the guy I wanted to be like.
00:06:03When you're a leader in that way, it's admirable until you get to the point where you want to
00:06:08control everyone around you.
00:06:11He got to that point.
00:06:12What y'all want to do?
00:06:13I want to be ballers, shot callers, brawlers.
00:06:18It's like Scarface, the movie.
00:06:21I want the world and everything that's in it.
00:06:24But you got everything.
00:06:26Hey, yo, New York, we fucking did it.
00:06:29Harlem, we did it.
00:06:31Montana, we did it.
00:06:32It was a mantra that Sean had.
00:06:35Nobody's going to be bigger than me.
00:06:37Sean is the 1% of the 1% of the 1%.
00:06:40We'll never see a Sean in my lifetime again.
00:06:43Ever.
00:06:45It was like the more money he got, the more power he got, the more power he got, the more
00:06:51money he got.
00:06:52And he always felt like money can get him out of everything.
00:06:56I do feel it's important that we let the public know from the juror's standpoint just
00:07:03kind of how we reach the verdict.
00:07:08It's not everything that the media has put it out to be.
00:07:12You want to put stuff in my fanny pack?
00:07:15He's creating a narrative always.
00:07:21He is the best storyteller in hip-hop.
00:07:25He thinks he's black Superman.
00:07:27I can do what I want.
00:07:29You can't go on for long in life doing the things that he was doing before something
00:07:34eventually happens.
00:07:39You can't continue to keep hurting people and nothing ever happens.
00:07:43It's just a matter of time.
00:07:54Is it good to be back in New York?
00:07:56It's always good to be back in New York.
00:07:59Once upon a time, not long ago, when people wore pajamas and lived life slow.
00:08:04Willows were stern and justice stood.
00:08:06And people were behaving like they ought to good.
00:08:09How you chasing the kids on here?
00:08:10All right, bro.
00:08:11There's a little boy who was misled by another little boy, and this is what he said.
00:08:18Me and you tonight, we're gonna make some cash, robbing old folks and making the dance.
00:08:23I was there from the very beginning with the invention of Sean Combs.
00:08:33I co-founded Bad Boy with Sean.
00:08:38I was dazzled by his ideas and his unique talent.
00:08:45But he was a very different Sean Combs back then.
00:08:49Sean was 19 when he dropped out of Howard University.
00:08:57He wanted to be in the flashy, swaggy music industry.
00:09:06He started off dancing, wanting to be in videos.
00:09:09Wanting to be a pop culture mover and shaker at a time where things were changing.
00:09:24Hip-hop was evolving.
00:09:26Like it or not, rap is here to stay.
00:09:28It has become part of mainstream commerce.
00:09:30It was just explosive.
00:09:31Run DMC.
00:09:32Chaos One.
00:09:33Public Enemy.
00:09:34Rock Henry.
00:09:35The late 80s.
00:09:36It was fantastic.
00:09:37There were a lot of independent labels that gave birth to hip-hop in the way that we know it today.
00:09:52What is this new music?
00:09:53Like Uptown Records.
00:09:56Heavy D was the biggest rapper signed to Uptown.
00:09:58Excuse me.
00:09:59We got Heavy D in the house with us today.
00:10:00Thanks for coming down.
00:10:01You could be with the hardest cats in the hood.
00:10:02You could rock Heavy D.
00:10:03You with your grandmother in the car.
00:10:04You ain't got to reach for the radio and turn it off.
00:10:05We call him the official mayor of Money Earned Around Vernon.
00:10:07.
00:10:11Fuck Money Earned Around Vernon, Vernon.
00:10:12pues
00:10:37first city outside of the bronx heavy d put that area on the map
00:10:46and his influence reached all the young people in the neighborhood including the young sean combs
00:10:54who was at mount st michael high school a catholic private school he would knock on heavy d's door
00:11:03every day to see if heavy would take him to meet andre harrell
00:11:11andre was the champagne of rap and he took the streets to wall street the only entrance into
00:11:21hip-hop at that point was andre harrell and russell simmons into the corporate hip-hop world into the
00:11:28money sean had impressed andre enough to give him an internship and that was the beginning
00:11:38i worked with sean as an intern at uptown i'm a picture i'm laid out for you
00:11:44when you throw the uptown records you throw the heavy d and i'll be sure
00:11:48i was the first number one artist on the billboard charts on uptown and the first platinum artist
00:12:02on the uptown label he was a gq nigga you know he was a real penny loafers type
00:12:08he was one of them fly light-skinned niggas and girls loved him
00:12:17al was dating kim kim porter kim is at the receptionist desk at uptown you get out the
00:12:27elevator first person you see is kim
00:12:28and it was a beautiful sight everybody said that you know what i mean but when sean saw kim
00:12:39it was different and now sean's always at the receptionist desk begging kim for something
00:12:47a date a kiss he put it all on the table for kim
00:12:51it was weird it was weird in the air because everyone knew this was al's girl
00:12:59al is hot as fish grease right now hi this is al be sure here's my exclusive number two dollars for
00:13:05the first minute 45 cents for each additional minute and sean was not really like the catch
00:13:14he didn't drink alcohol he forbade marijuana he did not like drugs
00:13:19he had the gumby and he looked like a scholastic dweeb but sean was so determined
00:13:28i bet you i could get kim and he was like nah no way you ain't your weight ain't even up enough yet
00:13:34but when sean wants something he's gonna get it it might be a couple of years from now but sooner or
00:13:41later he's gonna get it on jerrell heavy d i'll be sure they had all the money and all the power and
00:13:50i was like i don't know what they did but that's what i want to do
00:13:56i got to uptown a few months after sean did and i saw him being built into cool
00:14:04we had to go through the uptown flavor camp
00:14:11i learned a lot quickly being in front of willie burgers on 145th and a4 being at the rooftop
00:14:18the fashion the walk the talk the attitude the drive the determination i was ready to do whatever it
00:14:26took to win the young sean combs during that time he was so tenacious you would ask him to turn
00:14:34wednesday into tuesday he was set about doing it first task we had given him to just go get a tape
00:14:4210 blocks away he came back in two minutes or something crazy i remember i was on the phone i
00:14:47looked up when he came back i was like how'd you get there so fast and he said i ran there and back
00:14:54right then and there i said oh okay yeah i should have known then that that was never going to stop
00:15:01to run there and run back he ingratiated himself to andre and made himself very valuable something
00:15:10that you don't want to do without like who's going to get my clothes who's going to armor on my tire
00:15:15this is so convenient then they lived together
00:15:18uh-huh i bought the first million dollar house funny that that weekend just before i moved in
00:15:24he had a uh mysterious fight with his mother and he said i can't go home i gotta stay here with you
00:15:30pup moved in before i did
00:15:35andre is taking him under like a son andre is the very first patriarch he connected with sean grew up with
00:15:44the illusion of what masculinity looks like my first encounter with sean i remember it like yesterday
00:15:54my family we rented the first floor of sean's house i was my mom and dad's only child
00:16:01so now sean has somebody to brother up with we experienced a lot of firsts together
00:16:10i taught him how to ride a bike it was the best thing in my life to let go of the bike and him
00:16:15start riding we fit so well sean was another misfit just like me but the difference in my household
00:16:24my dad taught me right from wrong no sean sean didn't have that ladies and gentlemen i would
00:16:32like to introduce my mother janice combs
00:16:41what were the primary jobs that you did to support your family i did so many jobs at one time i worked at
00:16:48the united civil palsy i worked at uh the board of ed in westchester county i drove the school bus
00:16:56i worked in a baby's boutique shop and he never knew this i worked in the after hours spot too
00:17:04i have to come quick i i needed to come quick
00:17:08i made more money because the men thought i was very glamorous and i used to pour liquor
00:17:18and they'd give me big tips in sean's house there was janice and there was sean
00:17:26my father's name is melvin combs i didn't get a chance to get to know him i was too young
00:17:32my father got his brains blown out like on central park west i did the research they said my mother had
00:17:40brought me to the funeral of full-length chinchilla
00:17:46it was like a sigh of relief you know what i'm saying because i finally knew that what i was feeling
00:17:50was true you know what i'm saying that i was a son of a hustler a gangster melvin's presence was there
00:17:57his money was there and i understood that melvin made a lot of things possible
00:18:05but sean's mom was his everything if you look at some of the early pictures that janice
00:18:13has of sean she was always making him into something
00:18:17the hats fur coats i think she tried to overcompensate for the father being gone by making him into
00:18:31this dandy everything associated with sean was harlem
00:18:39whoever was flying home that's what he was as a child janice she'd always be in harlem and there were
00:18:46times where she'd bring us here we are in this brand new cadillac because that's all janet drove
00:18:56she's making stops here and there and you know we knew the rule the drill just sit there i'll be
00:19:01right back she ain't turn the car off nobody took the car no so you knew it was a different vibe going
00:19:09all with this family in his household the groove was a little different a lot of donna summer playing
00:19:19and then we had these movies we'd watch he's got to be number one this genre of films called black
00:19:27exploitation super dude you had super fly super fly you had the mac when you got nothing you want
00:19:35everything you gotta get to be the mac their parts were hustler parts
00:19:42in sean's household you start to see all the stuff that you saw in the movies
00:19:52janice knew how to throw a party and the party's packed you got ladies that look like they're straight
00:20:00out of a jet magazine some brothers up there you know if you want to call them pimps you can if you
00:20:05want to call them hustlers you can you got a member of the new york knicks or two
00:20:14there was a stage in her living room literally a stage and that's where we used to have to go and
00:20:20dance when everybody's calling you baby and everybody's saying do that dance
00:20:26and all of this stuff he's taken in
00:20:40so from the movie screen to the home screen these are the makings of sean combs
00:20:48now mind you as a child sean was goofy kids would pick on him a lot around the block
00:20:53and he didn't know how to defend himself sean was a prince and janice she didn't want no princess
00:21:04she held back nothing you've said i would be 12 years old and sometimes i'd be out until
00:21:10three four in the morning james james we don't have to get into that right
00:21:13ma'am got a lot of beatings too his beatings made me scared right i got beatings now
00:21:29but when he got his beatings it wasn't no it wasn't a joking thing no
00:21:35damn i hate thinking about that man
00:21:44my mother was i guess raising me for the real world
00:21:47she was always told me if somebody hit me make sure i hit them back harder
00:21:50make sure they never hit me again and make sure i fucked them up
00:21:54you know how you hear your mom's voice in your
00:21:57ear ear boy you better boy sean started fighting he started stepping up
00:22:09but sean don't fight like this sean's gonna bite you he's gonna eat your ear off
00:22:14he's gonna cut your neck open with his mouth he's not losing
00:22:19i know people shaped by pain as well as by love and if it was more pain than love watch out
00:22:35there's going to be pain that you're going to give others
00:22:39because you're responding to that pain that you just can't seem to cut out of you
00:22:49i didn't know much about him i know that he had a big ego
00:23:03i met him around 89 90. my job was to promote music videos and puffy he was always doing the
00:23:11party promotion so he's always like handing out the flyers at the time i was working on arjo
00:23:17but he wasn't paying me enough so i had to promote parties on the side which was all good
00:23:23daddy's house he was savvy enough to promote parties they were the most successful parties
00:23:28at that time but they were all about promoting himself one of the brothers that put the party
00:23:34together my man puff daddy really it was no problem because all my black brothers and sisters
00:23:39came together like my man tell you friends all the beautiful women out here we came together
00:23:43just to have a good time i went to a party for a good friend
00:23:51it was getting very late puffy is like oh you know i'm having an after party
00:23:57at andre harrell's house
00:24:01andre harrell wasn't there he was out of town
00:24:03people were tracking mud through the house and i remember at the end of the night i was helping
00:24:13clean up the mud puffy is like very polite you know and thanking me for helping him
00:24:21and he asked me oh wow i just got this call you know someone this girl backed out of this
00:24:26music video you know can you do it and i was like i don't do music videos but this party was in new jersey
00:24:35and i needed a ride back to manhattan so i went along
00:24:44and i never forget i had the same clothes on that i had from the night before
00:24:49the music video was called straight from the soul by finesse and sinquist the whole premise was for
00:24:59me to jump out the car and go with these girls and get away from the pimp guy
00:25:04nice clothes in a car doesn't make you a star you can't talk positive and do the opposite cause then
00:25:10you're labeled as a friend a hypocrite you can't be righteous throw a party to flip sniffing store
00:25:15drink and drive and have your sister strip you know what that looks like to your people a big
00:25:18disgrace dying sisters don't want to look you in your face wanting to be a pimp brother your heart ain't
00:25:23that cold and this is straight from the soul
00:25:33was there ever a time that sean combs sexually assaulted you
00:25:37yes someone called me up and told me that um he said you know he has you know video and i was like
00:25:51what and that's when he um described it and explained it
00:26:07i i just want to say this this thing was incredibly devastating to my family
00:26:24my mother she's a social worker we don't have money the thing
00:26:31that we had was our pride
00:26:42we carried ourselves well we were pretty we were intelligent this is the basis of what i had self
00:26:52respect my mother wrote a letter to combs parents
00:26:58i just found this recently
00:27:05can i read it
00:27:10dear mr and mrs combs
00:27:14i'm writing you to inform you of something that your son did to my daughter
00:27:22one weekend while visiting my daughter i woke to her screaming in the middle of the night
00:27:30she told me that she was dreaming about puffy i asked her why she was screaming and who is this puffy
00:27:41person that he would cause her to have nightmares i was shocked and mortified to hear her story
00:27:48she told me that several people have come to her to inform her that your son has made an obscene videotape of her
00:28:00without her knowledge he videotaped him doing something sexual to her
00:28:06apparently apparently your son son shows these tapes at parties on large screen televisions
00:28:18i realize that this may be hard for you to believe
00:28:22but if i hadn't heard this story from my daughter's own mouth and looked into her eyes
00:28:27i would have scarcely believed that any individual would compromise another person's dignity in this manner
00:28:45i approached a lot of people for help
00:28:47i got things like what do you want me to do about it to if i help you i can't get into his parties
00:29:00why would you want to do that drug and rape the girl tape it and then put it up on the screen
00:29:24here's my theory
00:29:24alpo martinez drug lord famous harlem street tough guy hung out at the rooftop
00:29:39alpo had a lot of girls and he would take girls that he was having sex with and then on a saturday
00:29:46night he might bring his camera and put it on the wall and everyone knows that so-and-so's girl
00:29:54what sean saw was i want to be looked upon in that way as someone that has that type of stature
00:30:07all his life he's been trying to honor a man he believed it was a famous parliament gangster
00:30:15and that gave his father a mythic presence
00:30:19people like alpo he looked at those guys with a certain amount of jealousy or envy a certain amount
00:30:27of respect and there's a certain amount of desire that thing was in him from there
00:30:34i did i avoided him for a very long time i ran into him one day he came to me he got on his knees
00:30:58and swore he did not do this thing to me
00:31:03and denied it
00:31:10and that is the very last time i talked to him
00:31:14we did it let's go the key to the city yeah yeah yeah when i think back in terms of his rise
00:31:21it is it is the most helpless feeling i was always nauseous when i saw his image
00:31:34the one image in times square where he's holding his fist up
00:31:39when i saw it i vomited right there on the street
00:31:48you are really raising your hand to victory and i'm living in trauma and defeat
00:32:00it's a new legal travel for sean diddy combs another new lawsuit of sexual assault sex trafficking
00:32:15and drugging underage girls federal prosecutors in new york have interviewed numerous women who
00:32:20allege wrong this is at least the tenth civil lawsuit filed against sean diddy combs alleged sex
00:32:26let's take the blood man what the fuck else y'all have
00:32:30um just a bunch of silly just silly
00:32:35bullshit noise noise those things
00:32:39noise but it's like the legal system is doing it now because like legally we got it it's like i gotta
00:32:47spend money to go and get rid of this bullshit oh yeah ain't got nothing left
00:32:54i got nothing left going on
00:32:59they ain't breaking me though how are you boss if you don't mind one picture please
00:33:05i'm not good with the camera so i'm gonna try
00:33:15as a group as a group sean was destined to be famous
00:33:22i didn't see him for me coming i swear i didn't see that coming
00:33:34i'm 19 and i always like seeing people entertained
00:33:38and i thought you know over the holidays just wanted to throw a celebrity basketball game in harlem
00:33:44and i was at the game i was on the floor all of us was there every rapper in new york right
00:33:52your mtv raps came i'm at city college in the heart of new york city for the puff daddy heavy the
00:33:58first all-time celebrity all-star classic that was one of the biggest basketball games if that would
00:34:05have turned out correctly when it went down in history
00:34:12there were lines and lines around the campus to get in
00:34:16there's no more room but everyone still wants to come
00:34:20we open up the doors everybody starts flowing through but then thousands more come
00:34:40there was a thing in hip-hop called bum rushing the door people don't have a ticket when they hear
00:34:45something sold out they say we gotta still get in we're gonna bum rush the door when they got to
00:34:51the bottom of the stairs the doors didn't go out that way they only came in so people were stuck
00:34:59they were just crushing people down at the bottom of the stairs
00:35:04we on the court warming up the play and then dougie first grabbed the mic and said there's people that
00:35:09are dead
00:35:20I want you to be the most regular person in here.
00:35:23You need to be.
00:35:26And it's over.
00:35:33Sean overpromoted, overhyped, and that led to a crowd.
00:35:42It was just like, oh shit, how did this happen so quick?
00:35:46How would people want to explain it?
00:35:50We need a lot of help here.
00:35:52There's a lot of people hurt and aren't breathing.
00:35:55Not breathing?
00:35:56Yes.
00:35:57We, I mean, we have a emergency over here.
00:36:08We got a lot of people here dead in the gymnasium.
00:36:10Please.
00:36:11They did?
00:36:14The death toll from last week's stampede
00:36:16at a New York charity basketball game has risen to nine.
00:36:19Never's getting trampled.
00:36:21All for money.
00:36:22$12, man.
00:36:23What do you mean $12?
00:36:24Cost $12 for a ticket.
00:36:27One of the unanswered questions remains who's to blame for the stampede that killed nine people.
00:36:33Throughout the newspaper headlines, throughout the confusion, the finger-pointing, who's responsible, Sean Young, in real time, carried the weight of all of that.
00:36:49My dream for this evening was to bring a positive program to my people, to people of my age and to people in my community.
00:37:01Whatever must be done, must be done to ensure that this never, ever, ever happens again.
00:37:06It was the biggest news ever.
00:37:08That's how he got super famous, was that game and those deaths.
00:37:15That's the beginning of Puff Daddy.
00:37:18That's really how I started to become famous, was through a tragedy.
00:37:25He was holed up in a hotel on the east side, him and his mother.
00:37:33He didn't know what was going to happen.
00:37:37And I saw Janice question Sean.
00:37:40He's going into this music business thing.
00:37:43He just left school.
00:37:45And now this extreme tragedy has occurred.
00:37:48She's like, did he make the right decision?
00:37:52And I saw him put his hands on her.
00:37:57Call her a bitch and slapped her.
00:38:02He's not looking back.
00:38:07Sean Puff Daddy Combs and sponsors claim no responsibility in the tragic chain of events that claim nine lives and injuries.
00:38:19The brass that afforded Uptown its distribution money wanted Sean out.
00:38:27I saw Andre fight and fight to keep Sean in.
00:38:32And he did.
00:38:33Andre and Ralph Puff Daddy, he's passed it on to, I guess his son.
00:38:36Protégé.
00:38:37Protégé.
00:38:38Yes, yes.
00:38:39Puffy.
00:38:40Yes.
00:38:41Tell me a little bit about this man and why you like working with him.
00:38:43Because, you know, he's not intimidated by youth, you know what I'm saying?
00:38:46He knows the importance of leaving the legacy behind.
00:38:49Because we need more adults out there that's going to teach the young such as myself.
00:38:53I took Andre Harrell out to lunch.
00:38:56And I said, can I get a chance to maybe do A&R?
00:38:59The A&R is artists and repertoire.
00:39:02That's the guy that works at the record company that puts the records together and works with the artists.
00:39:06I said, give me a chance.
00:39:08You know, you're making music for young people.
00:39:11I'm young and, you know, who better to make the music than me?
00:39:14We had a group back in the day.
00:39:19They drove up to New York unannounced to meet Andre Harrell.
00:39:24When we make love.
00:39:26Jodeci.
00:39:27It's like a dream.
00:39:30They sing for Andre. Andre loves it.
00:39:33Immediately that becomes Puff's first responsibility.
00:39:36Nigga, go make Jodeci.
00:39:38What's in the future of Jodeci?
00:39:40Hopefully to make hits, hits, hits.
00:39:43Andre put his trust with Shawn as opposed to the artist.
00:39:48He told us, I don't care who the artist is, you're more important than them.
00:39:55The artists don't work without you.
00:39:58What would be the ideal musical setting for y'all?
00:40:00I guess we're falling in front of like millions of people, you know.
00:40:03You have to be able to control everything.
00:40:06I basically style and come up with the images and design most of the clothing for all of the artists.
00:40:12It was him that put Jodeci in the pants baggy, sagging at the bottom, the boots not lacing it up.
00:40:20He is able to sponge from the community and the culture and package it.
00:40:27And in the studio, he did the same thing.
00:40:31Shawn wasn't a producer where he can tell you, you need a C here, a C note or this is an F.
00:40:38But he did have a good ear for what could be a hit.
00:40:43Let me give you an example.
00:40:44Let's get it going. Rooftop!
00:40:45At the rooftop in Harlem, the DJ Brucey B would mix acapellas from R&B songs with hard hip-hop beats.
00:40:55Run for me!
00:40:58And it drove the kids crazy at the clubs.
00:41:02That's what Shawn did with Jodeci on those remixes.
00:41:06It was very minimal. It was very hard beat and snare. No melody.
00:41:11Come and talk to me, baby.
00:41:14Come and talk to me, baby. I really wanna meet you.
00:41:17Jodeci's record started climbing the charts.
00:41:20Here we go! Here we go, Jodeci, yo!
00:41:23Shawn turned that into the blueprint with his special brand of A&R.
00:41:28And then the next artist to benefit from that was Mary J. Blige.
00:41:32Here, Mary's Pop. Pick up the phone, nigga.
00:41:35Here, Mary. It's Pop.
00:41:37Mary's What's the 411 was out the box.
00:41:40In the mall, you gotta do this video shoot.
00:41:43The hat pulled out, the mysteriousness.
00:41:46It had a little bit of a darkness and moodiness to it as well.
00:41:49All of that was groundbreaking.
00:41:53Real love.
00:41:55He launched a female artist in a male-dominated hip-hop barrel.
00:42:00What's up, Ababa?
00:42:03Who became an instant success.
00:42:05And that created hip-hop soul.
00:42:08Mary became the owner of that sound.
00:42:12Mary J. Blige.
00:42:17Shawn was making the hits happen and the visuals happened.
00:42:21In 1992, Shawn is promoted to VP of A&R and Artists and Development.
00:42:27So, my name's Puff Daddy.
00:42:29Vice President of A&R and Artists and Development for Uptown Records.
00:42:33Which brought you the hits of Jodeci, Mary J. Blige, Heavy D and the Boys, Fall MC.
00:42:38And you know, on and on and on.
00:42:40Puffy had Jodeci and Mary J. Blige.
00:42:43But Puffy's a big, huge EPMD fan.
00:42:46My background sing, my background sing for the crossover.
00:42:50He was at my crossover video shoot.
00:42:52And he asked me to do the Mary J. Blige intro for the 4-1 album.
00:42:57Your Mary Blige drop to Alex Sherman, MC Graham Royal.
00:43:02I did that for him and then all of a sudden we became friends.
00:43:07I thought it was a general friendship.
00:43:10Until I see that this game is being played.
00:43:15You got an agenda.
00:43:17Mesa, he was trying to court her after we broke up.
00:43:23Sean wants her because Eric was that dude.
00:43:29It was about, I got her, I won her over from him.
00:43:34He had to have the girl.
00:43:38And Sean has a way about, when he gets you, he got you.
00:43:42He got you.
00:43:44And now you become property.
00:43:48Me and Mesa were just friends.
00:43:51But he wanted to make sure that there was no calling
00:43:55and me being friends with that girl.
00:43:58Sean's jealousy, it got to the point where he would put his hands on her.
00:44:04Right outside of Uptown Records.
00:44:07They're fighting in the street and he's beating her into the car well.
00:44:11She's on the ground.
00:44:15And people are pulling him off of her and separating her.
00:44:20A year or two later, they're still together and Justin is born.
00:44:34When he invited me to be the godfather of his first son,
00:44:38I was able to push that in the back of my mind and say that was a really bad moment.
00:44:45But he was weak and it was a bad moment.
00:44:50Does that make me part of a Sean Combs cult?
00:44:54Maybe so.
00:44:57I may have been the first disciple, believer, and then overall protector against all odds.
00:45:12Uptown!
00:45:14Uptown!
00:45:15Uptown!
00:45:16Uptown!
00:45:17I wanna personally invite one more blood full on stage.
00:45:21Responsible for my...
00:45:22Joe to see...
00:45:23Mary J. Blythe...
00:45:24Puck Daddy, come to the stage baby!
00:45:27Puck Daddy!
00:45:32At that point, Sean is on top of the world.
00:45:35And his trajectory was only up.
00:45:37up. I was just a wonder kid. It was just something that they never saw before. To be young and
00:45:47to be Puff Daddy, it's just like, I felt like my dream came true.
00:45:59Everybody now is looking for this kid because they all have artists that they have to get to
00:46:04the top of the chart. What does that do to a person? Do you think I'm still going to be
00:46:11like, yes ma'am, no ma'am, thank you very much? He became too big for Uptown Records. I'm
00:46:18going to be so drunk and high by Wednesday at 8 o'clock. I'm not really going to give a
00:46:21fuck. But I give a fuck. It started to be some dissension between Andre and Puff. Andre was
00:46:28the king of the Uptown Castle of the Empire he created. And the intern was taking his
00:46:37place.
00:46:41I remember it like yesterday. Andre called me into his office. He tells me just like this.
00:46:49He says, dog, I just fired Puff. I said, word? It was a sad day. Andre was like a surrogate
00:47:01dad for Sean. Sean was really sick when Andre fired him. I'm talking about sick. Couldn't
00:47:11believe it. And then Sean called me. And he said, yo, I'm about to do my thing, dog.
00:47:33Puff was like, yo, I'm looking for some hardcore artists. He's ain't tired of doing the Mary shit.
00:47:41And Jonas, he said, you want to do some hard shit, some street shit.
00:47:49The West Coast had the hits that we wanted.
00:48:01Sean signed Biggie in 1992. People didn't know we had to produce Biggie's album for Uptown.
00:48:09He was an Uptown artist.
00:48:11So it's the notorious big damage.
00:48:13Yeah, yeah. B-I-G. Business instead of game, right? I'm telling him I told you.
00:48:17But when Andre fired Puff, they fired him with a caveat. I'm letting you go, but I'm gonna
00:48:24let you take Biggie with you.
00:48:28Andre decided to sell us the Biggie album.
00:48:30But now, we had to find a way to pay for it.
00:48:37We were living on borrowed time.
00:48:40I went about setting up the meetings.
00:48:43Then we met with Epic, Sony, Columbia.
00:48:47Then we met with Clive Davis at Ariston.
00:48:50Everybody knows him on a first-name basis.
00:48:53Clive runs a hundred-million-dollar record company called Ariston.
00:48:56He has discovered Whitney Houston, Carly Simon, Aretha Franklin, and a long list of
00:49:05other pop stars who thrive in the world, according to Clive.
00:49:11So we went to Clive, and we played a few tracks from Biggie's album.
00:49:16And I remember one of the first ones that we played was Gimme the Loop.
00:49:19Yes, love, love your fucking attitude, because the nigga play pussy, that's the nigga...
00:49:23And Clive's eyes went like this.
00:49:26I'm slamming niggas like Shaquille, shit is real.
00:49:29And I said, well, you got the goods.
00:49:31And I bought into his vision.
00:49:34Gimme the loop, gimme the loop.
00:49:36Gimme the loop, gimme the loop.
00:49:38Gimme the loop, gimme the loop.
00:49:41I named it a bad boy.
00:49:43Because I wanted to go against the grain.
00:49:46I didn't want to just make records.
00:49:47I didn't want to just make money.
00:49:49I wanted to make history.
00:49:51One down, bad boy.
00:49:52Fire it up, bad boy.
00:49:53Representing.
00:49:54Puck daddy.
00:50:00I was at bad boy starting from the day that we put the LLC together.
00:50:05And Sean gave me 25% in stock.
00:50:09And his mother, Janice, had 75%.
00:50:13He did not put the company in his name to protect him from paying families at CCNY.
00:50:21And I saw from that moment on, Sean had shifted in his personality.
00:50:29I didn't see any more of the Mount St. Michael teen Sean.
00:50:35He had become more like the person I see today.
00:50:44We did a deal for approximately $10 million.
00:50:47$1.5 million went as an advance into Sean's pocket.
00:50:54Another 1.5 is supposed to be our overhead.
00:50:58Sean said, that's yours.
00:51:00You can do whatever you want with it.
00:51:01But you better make sure my company's running.
00:51:03From day zero, I wrote everything down every day so I could keep track of everything I needed to do.
00:51:12I ran all the money, all the budgets for the company, as well as a lot for his personal life and all that came with it.
00:51:20I don't like the way you're treating me or me getting my second half.
00:51:23This shit is bullshit.
00:51:24Yo, yo, yo, yo, bust your ass and ask me...
00:51:27I think that he had this thing with strongmen.
00:51:32And he had a thing with wanting to be one, but not positioned to be one street-wise, but positioned to be one industry-wise.
00:51:40And they call that a paper gangster.
00:51:43Shit over. I'm not paying, nor am I involved in any of that shit.
00:51:47And so as he's paper gangstering, he's also trying to street gangster, too, at the same time.
00:51:55Savage! I'm a savage!
00:51:57He's not from the street.
00:51:59His mother did the very best to give him the best.
00:52:02What's next? Give me something else.
00:52:04What can't you do? I can do it!
00:52:05But now, he's been getting beefier and beefier with the power from the music.
00:52:11That's a good way to get your head filled up to think that you're just as gangster as they are now.
00:52:17Without even having to pop your gun off yourself.
00:52:23Now, after all this time, me and Misa are still cool.
00:52:27We were just friends.
00:52:29But one time, she just happened to be in my driver's seat in my truck.
00:52:34And all of a sudden, I heard somebody go, and it's him.
00:52:41He's steaming.
00:52:43He swings on me.
00:52:45So I'm laughing, and I'm like, you swung on me?
00:52:50You're putting yourself in jeopardy knowing you can't whoop none of us.
00:52:54So now, I'm like, yo, let's go around the corner.
00:52:58Because I'm respectful enough.
00:53:02So he actually gets in the car, and we drive around the corner.
00:53:06So I'm about to give him the business.
00:53:08Shit could have got really ugly.
00:53:11And he just said, yo, sit down, I want you to hear something real quick.
00:53:14And that's when he played me the Biggie Smalls album.
00:53:16Yeah, this album is dedicated to all the teachers that told me I'll never amount to nothing.
00:53:23The Juicy single dropped somewhere in 94.
00:53:27It was all a dream.
00:53:28I used to read Word Up magazine.
00:53:30But Biggie's trajectory was not zero straight to the top.
00:53:35Biggie had a slow start.
00:53:36Very nervous at first.
00:53:38At the time, that West Coast thing is happening.
00:53:44So we began to look at what they were doing, and Tupac was like a shining star.
00:53:49There's a song called I Get Around by Tupac.
00:53:52I get around.
00:53:53Still down with the underground.
00:53:54Round in the house.
00:53:56In the brown acre, I get around.
00:53:57That song, if you're like in a science lab, and you're looking at something with a microscope,
00:54:02and you're trying to figure out what it is and what it's made of,
00:54:05that's what we did with that song, I Get Around.
00:54:08You know, Sean was just mesmerized by that particular song.
00:54:12The structure of it, the video and the visuals.
00:54:15It showed the culture.
00:54:18It's like, let me dissect this.
00:54:19Let me understand it.
00:54:21Let me do it my way.
00:54:24And the next single was Big Papa.
00:54:26And that dropped, and it took us over the edge with Biggie.
00:54:31He was out of here from that moment on.
00:54:33I love the one you call me, Big Papa.
00:54:36Throw your hands in the air if you's a true player.
00:54:40We had Ready to Die before it came out.
00:54:44Bigg had sent Tupac a demo, and we played that tape to death, man.
00:54:48We played that tape till it was destroyed.
00:54:51And then Pac got the phone call that Bigg was having an album release party.
00:54:56He said to us, man, we all go into that.
00:54:59He was very excited for him.
00:55:00I've never seen someone more excited for someone else's success
00:55:10as Pac was for Bigg's success.
00:55:14You ready, nigga?
00:55:15Yeah.
00:55:15You ready for that raw dog shit, nigga?
00:55:17I don't know what I'm gonna grab in.
00:55:19Okay, all right.
00:55:20Let me see how I'm gonna hit you with.
00:55:23He thought Bigg was dope.
00:55:25He wasn't doping in him as far as he was concerned.
00:55:28Tupacalypse don't sleep.
00:55:30I keep a motherfucking Glock in my car.
00:55:32But he was the next thing smoking.
00:55:35I'm a high guy from Bed-Stuy putting the swelling on your eye.
00:55:38Your nose even when I choke you, you stop breathing.
00:55:41When police come, I'm leaving.
00:55:43Peace and love.
00:55:44Here we go.
00:55:48Pac would take Bigg with him on tours and let him open up for him.
00:55:58Pac was developing thug life, this ideology of taking back our communities.
00:56:05Bigg was with that.
00:56:06He felt that he resonated with it.
00:56:08So they had a connection.
00:56:12Sean was insanely jealous of Bigg and Pac's friendship.
00:56:18You know, when I was around Bigg, I felt like he really loved me.
00:56:24I felt like if I left the room, he wasn't gonna say nothing bad or somebody said something bad about me, he would defend that.
00:56:31He was probably one of the only people I had really trusted, like, for a long time.
00:56:35He's going to a little right-hand room right now.
00:56:37Can I turn the AC on again?
00:56:38There's a yearning for him to have that complete, total control.
00:56:46You're my artist.
00:56:47You're my best friend.
00:56:49You're writing this song for, like, 30 motherfucking days.
00:56:52I pay you.
00:56:53You work for me.
00:56:57I make hits with you.
00:57:01And who is this guy?
00:57:06Why do we need him in the picture?
00:57:08Guess who's going to win?
00:57:10Tupac was a very likable person.
00:57:13All the women loved him.
00:57:16Being a rapper, being a movie star.
00:57:21For Sean, being a marketer, you're a manipulator.
00:57:25Please welcome Tupac Shakur.
00:57:28And there's envy for people who have success, fame, with no manipulation.
00:57:34Puff is, to me, very threatened by Pop.
00:57:44When I reflect on how this all came into play, it's a trail.
00:57:48City College.
00:57:54Innocent lives got taken.
00:57:58Then it became the ability to get away with anything.
00:58:03And then you circle in the fact that he has legit money.
00:58:06Then you have the antagonist, Tupac Shakur.
00:58:18All those ingredients created the chain of events that started in New York and ended in Vegas.
00:58:28Do you know who was responsible for the killing of Tupac Shakur?
00:58:45No, I don't.
00:58:50I think that Sean now, in my mature mind, had a lot to do with the death of Tupac.
00:58:58Tupac Shakur
00:59:07Toda
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