Sean Combs- The Reckoning - Season 1 Episode 02- What Goes Down Must Come Up
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00:00Happy birthday to you, everybody!
00:23I always looked at him as just being like this rich Harlem cat who just want to dance and
00:48make money.
00:49No violence in him, but every time I turn around, there's violence.
01:04There's violence with his name on it.
01:10At the time, there's this tension that is going on between Pac and Puff.
01:18Puff wanted to work with Pac on a lot of levels business-wise, and Pac wasn't having it.
01:23He was more interested in Biggie and his crew.
01:29Puff was very threatened by Pac.
01:31He was very threatened, especially if you're an executive who wants the guy to make you
01:36money, and the guy is saying, no, fuck you.
01:40Around that time, Tupac was going to do a song with Lil Sean at Quiet Studio.
01:49Out of the blue, they wanted me to do the song, so I said, all right.
01:52Stopped off to get some weed, smoked the weed.
01:55Then I was getting a page, where you at, where you at, where you at?
01:58Why you ain't coming?
01:59I was like, I'm coming, I'm on my way, hold on.
02:01I wasn't thinking, why they want me here so bad?
02:04We're walking up to the building.
02:06Somebody screamed from the upper top of the studio, and it's Lil' Caesar.
02:10He's like Biggie's side man, right?
02:12We was in the recording with Big and Puff, and I'm yelling, like, yo, Pac.
02:15And he looked up, yo, what's up, little nigga?
02:18I go back in the room, I tell Big, I'm like, yo, Big, Pac downstairs.
02:21He was like, oh, all right, go get him.
02:23Getting to the elevator, and when I was about to walk out, two dudes came from both sides.
02:28Get the fuck back in the elevator.
02:30Shit.
02:32Recording artist Tupac Shakur was shot five times last night in a robbery attack.
02:36After surgery, his condition was upgraded to satisfactory, and he checked out of the hospital
02:41against his doctor's advice.
02:43I think they're trying to rub me out, really.
02:45Robbers don't leave behind $80,000 Rolexes, you know what I mean?
02:49They don't do that, in case nobody knows.
02:52Let's look at the facts.
02:56Puff is there.
02:57Pac has been shot in New York under your watch.
03:01Question would be, who knew that he was pulling up?
03:04Biggie, knowing myself, had nothing to do whatsoever of Tupac being robbed.
03:13That's just a fact.
03:15After everything that has unfolded, I have to think twice about how that situation went
03:20down.
03:21Do you think Puffy was robbed, Sugar?
03:23I believe so.
03:24I do believe so.
03:25I have proof.
03:26You can see now why someone like a Puff would want someone like a Pop out the picture.
03:32You know, Pop was vilified while he was alive, and Puff was exalted.
03:41That's the bigger picture.
03:43And that's the story that hasn't been told.
03:55Obviously, Mark Lee, AJ Brown, what have you, it allows them to get a clearer picture,
04:01stretching the defense horizontally faster, right?
04:04And it also, conversely, makes the defense think a tick longer.
04:08Yeah.
04:09Like, that shit was crazy to me, that shit wasn't there, which is a sign to me like,
04:21nigga, time to order the future.
04:22Time to order the future.
04:23That was a little building.
04:25For the building that I got, you know what I'm saying?
04:29It was a sign to me like that, but I'm saying, that shit was there like two months ago, right?
04:34Puff is in this position where he has all this turmoil, but he's not at the point where
04:52he's saying, where I went wrong.
04:55He's saying to himself, how do I get out of this?
04:59Maybe I can convince some witnesses that I'm not the guy who I am.
05:05Eventually, he's going to get to the point where he's going to ask himself, how did I
05:09get myself into this situation?
05:11And Biggie.
05:2295, he had two of the hottest acts.
05:25Craig Mack gave us flavor in your ear.
05:27Here goes the brand new flavor.
05:30Time for new flavor in your ear.
05:32And Biggie.
05:33Come up in your waist.
05:34Please don't suit up the place.
05:35Why?
05:36Cause I see some ladies tonight that should be having my...
05:39Bad boy was rising up.
05:40My little lab right here, you know, where I cut my deals and all that.
05:44Got my little headset.
05:45He's living out a dream, you know what I'm saying?
05:47One time, Sean was in his office and I'm in a little cubby hole around the corner.
05:51He buzzes me.
05:53So I get up and I go in with my papers and go.
05:57A girl is giving him a blow job at the desk.
06:00He wanted me to see that.
06:03He wanted me to see her face.
06:05And then he was able to get her to do that right then and there in the office.
06:08She leaves.
06:10I'm, what did you want me for?
06:12Ah, I didn't want you for anything.
06:14That was the beginning for me to see this is what's going on here.
06:20Can everybody in here make some noise for B.I.G. for bringing it back to the East?
06:24So the seeds for all of this was early on.
06:28And that came from people in the industry co-signing his activity because it brought money in.
06:40I don't know if y'all niggas know this.
06:43The Juicy with platinum.
06:45The Big Purple with platinum.
06:47The Big Purple in your ear remix with platinum.
06:50That whole bad boy thing was so big.
06:54Faith Evans.
06:55I'm gonna be first lady on her daddy's lady.
06:57Total.
07:00Biggie.
07:02In Greg Man.
07:04The thing over here is Greg Man.
07:06It was a consistent back-to-back-to-back-to-back.
07:13So let me just give you a day in the life of Puff Daddy.
07:17Gets up from wherever he stayed that night.
07:21Heads to the office two hours late.
07:24You might have somebody pulling him over saying,
07:26Hey, ain't you in that video?
07:27Ain't that you?
07:28Oh, yo, here go a demo.
07:29I had the big baseball bat cell phones.
07:35And the phone might ring.
07:37Such-and-such is on the phone calling from jail.
07:39Yo, I'm coming home.
07:41You might have a group standing in front of the office.
07:44Already with the microphone ready to sing.
07:46You love me, I love...
07:48Just to get their shot at Puffy.
07:51Everybody wants to see him.
07:53He is now the new gateway into music.
07:55You're gonna take all of this power and money you're getting now
08:01and play by the rules?
08:04No, I'm the rule now.
08:05I am the exception to the rule.
08:08Puff Daddy!
08:13You know what I'm saying?
08:16One day, it seemed like out of the blue, my door opens up.
08:22Sean walks in.
08:24He had a baseball bat.
08:26Had a big attach-a-case suitcase with the snaps on it.
08:30The stocks were there.
08:32We in a fucking hustle.
08:33We in a grind.
08:34Do your job.
08:35Whatever your...
08:36He wanted me to sign my 25% over.
08:39And Diddy's over me like this.
08:41He wants to stop that.
08:43He wants it now.
08:44I'm not gonna stay fucking lying down.
08:46I'm not.
08:47I can't do that, man.
08:48He said, there's a business deal I need to take care of.
08:51I need to do this.
08:52I need to get this all on one side, but I'll give it back to you.
08:55I'm gonna give it back to you.
08:57Shit ain't fucking funny.
08:58That's the problem.
08:59You don't know how to be a accountant.
09:02And he threatened until I did.
09:07People always say to me, why would you do that?
09:12Like, why did you do that?
09:14Like, that was, you know...
09:20I didn't want to give it back.
09:21I wanted to stay in good graces.
09:23I still wanted to be at the company.
09:26It wasn't like he was firing me.
09:29But I was definitely confused by it.
09:33It might sound strange, but if you've ever built something and you want it to last, you think about how to make it last.
09:42I thought he was kind of cool at first, and then we started seeing some things.
10:03Craig started becoming disenchanting.
10:07I want to congratulate Craig Mack on his Grammy nomination.
10:11No question.
10:12Yes, baby, yeah.
10:13That's cool.
10:14Yo, you got nominated for a Grammy, but we had no money.
10:19If you look at Bad Boy, Bad Boy didn't sell enough records to explain his wealth.
10:26But enough artists were on the label that sold enough records to explain his wealth.
10:34Someone's trick was, I'm going to make you a star.
10:36You sign, follow the money.
10:38That's what you're going to try to do as hard as you can.
10:41You're going to try your best, and we know you're going to try your best.
10:44So you sign your deal.
10:45We gave you your advance.
10:46At Uptown, that's the only money the artists have ever seen, that first advance.
10:50Andre had to wait it.
10:51He never saw anything else.
10:52Did he pick that up?
10:54He made it even tighter.
10:57Don't leave the girl around me, true player for real.
11:00Let's Puff that be.
11:01It's a shell game.
11:03You hide everything that is an earning.
11:06You confuse the earnings.
11:08And now I own everything.
11:09You'll go out into the world.
11:11In the shell game, you'll be looking for your money for the next 20 years.
11:14Sean did that to every artist.
11:18You're in the studio.
11:20Now you have to recoup for being in the studio.
11:23Puff owns the studio.
11:26And I have four sessions, which you owe me $400,000.
11:30If Puff records a song with his artist, he pays himself.
11:36If he's in your video, he pays himself.
11:39He insert himself into their videos.
11:42A video come on, you'll be like, I fucking hate that guy.
11:44As an artist, you can go number one.
11:46The song is being played all over the nation.
11:49But you don't have the money to go to it because you're not making the proper money off of your royalties.
11:55Craig and I hit a point where we were fucked up.
12:01No money, nothing.
12:02Hell, I was getting money from my father to take care of the house.
12:08We were all at, like, somebody's album release party.
12:13And Craig's going to tell Puff to give him a few dollars and he'll hit him back once he went and did this show.
12:19He literally went in his pocket and pulled out a knot of money this big and gave him $100 bill.
12:30You really just don't give a fuck.
12:34I think Sean had an envy for his own artists.
12:40He was jealous of their talent and wondering, like, this talent is wasted on people who don't even really know what to do.
12:47And if I had that talent in my know-how, wow.
12:51That's interesting because a lot of people Puffy's age want to grab this mic and rap.
12:56But Puffy, you wanted to do other things and you're doing a lot of them.
13:00Can you talk about his skills as a rapper?
13:02Sucks.
13:03He has zero talent musically, nothing.
13:05He don't know how to discuss.
13:06He don't know nothing about R&B.
13:07He don't know none of that stuff.
13:08He used to ask me to always be there on the sessions because I would tell the truth.
13:12I'd be like, that's not it.
13:14People would be there like, yeah, that was tight.
13:16That was tight.
13:17I'd be like, look, for real, you got a lot of people who just tell you anything.
13:21That sucked.
13:22It doesn't sound good and it makes no sense.
13:26But he always wanted to be an artist.
13:30We're about to just drop our R&B stuff.
13:32The Puff Daddy album.
13:33Yeah, what about the Puff Daddy solo project?
13:35Yeah, we don't like to talk about that to me.
13:38Sean used other methods and ways to get the way he had to go.
13:45Big on strategy, big on swag.
13:49All of those things became important.
13:51When the ball down to the music, even if I didn't touch it, I showed you what to do.
13:56So that's what he was.
13:57Damn, you know what I'm saying?
13:58What?
13:59Right here, right there.
14:00Damn, you know what I'm saying?
14:01Shit.
14:02Where's the makeup at?
14:03Makeup.
14:04Right here, man.
14:05The whole bad boy was built on him.
14:08You cannot take that from him.
14:11But I think that Puffy wanted the light, like he always wanted.
14:16From dancing the whole night, you see anybody that's boasted and loud like that, they want
14:19to be in the spotlight.
14:21It wasn't like no secret, that's what he wanted.
14:26Six foot three, 335 pound, Suge Knight has managed to become the head of a hundred million
14:33dollar record company.
14:34It's the record label at ground zero of the whole gangster rap phenomenon, Death Row Records.
14:40Suge was about that money, but he didn't want to be in that limelight like Puff.
14:46He had his own lane.
14:48You're a big guy and there are people who are afraid of you.
14:51There's probably people who are afraid of you.
14:53Back in 1988, the person who did the greatest job of protecting me was the head of my security
14:58at the time, Suge Knight.
15:00Right now I'm on the heartbreak tour with Bobby Brown in New Edition and we've been out
15:04since September.
15:05We're about to get on the tour bus and these dudes came over and he was like talking crazy.
15:09Y'all niggas this, y'all niggas that, this, this, this.
15:14And I seen Suge kind of just turned this way and gave him one of these.
15:20Bam!
15:21Like that.
15:22And knocked dude down the hill.
15:24And it looked like a cartoon.
15:25Dude was rolling down the hill.
15:27Boom, boom.
15:28It's Tim's skateboard.
15:29He's a street dude.
15:31He's a real street dude.
15:33But Suge knew talent and he knew business.
15:36They took me on tour and I learned how every person who's writing songs is getting beat
15:43out their money, like they're publishing.
15:44He was able to dovetail that into starting Death Row Records.
15:48One, two, three, bring it to the folk.
15:51Snoop Doggy Dogg and Dr. Dre is at the door.
15:54Death Row can be bigger than Motel or Sony or Warner Brothers.
15:59Death Row is going to be the biggest record company there is.
16:02Chronic album is the foundation.
16:04Before Bad Boy, Death Row was the most successful label in the business.
16:11Sean had admired Death Row and wanted us to emulate them.
16:17And that was my job.
16:19How do I make Bad Boy equal to success of Death Row?
16:24And of course, my eyes was like this.
16:26Death Row?
16:27They had a head start.
16:29They had artists.
16:30They picked superstars up from other indie labels.
16:32We're starting off.
16:34Me and him were friends.
16:36Wow.
16:37Yeah, yeah.
16:38He would pick me up from the airport.
16:39You know, I was just networking with the brother and show me a lot of love.
16:43You know, I really had thought we were cool.
16:46Me and Puffy, we used to run around with each other.
16:48He was getting into business.
16:49I was in the business.
16:51Living life without fear.
16:53Putting fire...
16:54Only a few years later, Bad Boy, Death Row.
16:57Death Row is the label that pays, man.
16:59The two hottest labels.
17:02But I would look over at Death Row and say,
17:05they're taking care of their artists better than we are.
17:08They're putting your head, fuck the artists.
17:11And my thing was opposite.
17:13It's about me and my people.
17:15Fuck you.
17:17Craig wasn't happy there.
17:20Death Row was courting him.
17:22Because Should was opening up a Death Row East.
17:25And it was found out.
17:27Shot by the face.
17:28Yes.
17:29It's the Source Hip Hop Music Awards!
17:39The Source Awards was happening in New York City.
17:46Come on, New York!
17:48And behind the scenes, people were running back and forth to the next dressing room, to the next dressing room, which were in trailers, parked outside of Madison Square Garden.
17:58How important is it to have the Source Awards?
18:01Let me just wait and find it.
18:03You got that?
18:04Come on, man. Who bagging on the door like that?
18:06What is the deal, man? Keep the door closed!
18:10And it escalated with words from the podium at the awards show.
18:15Any artists out there who want to be an artist and want to stay a star and don't want to have to worry about the executive producer trying to be all in the videos, all on the record, dancing.
18:27Come to Death Row.
18:37I'm the executive producer that a comment was made about a little bit earlier.
18:41But check this out.
18:42Contrary to what other people may feel, I would like to say that I'm very proud of Dr. Dre, of Death Row, and Shook Knight for their accomplishments.
18:51You know what I'm saying?
18:53I'm a positive black man, and I make music to bring us together, not to separate us.
18:58And all this East and West that needs to stop.
19:00So give it up for everybody from the East and the West that won tonight.
19:04One love.
19:06Sean wants to present strength.
19:08He wants to show coolness.
19:12And then there's a side of him that's all out dark.
19:16He processes things differently.
19:18He remembers every slight.
19:23Once again, y'all, please give it up for all the nominees.
19:27Before I signed with Bad Boy, I was working at the door of the club in Platinum House.
19:48Every Friday we had a bad boy party.
19:52So Puff was there.
19:54Suge Knight came that night with his friend Jake.
19:58And I was working the door.
19:59Suge was looking for Puff.
20:01Sean would try to go after people's side chicks, like a girl in Atlanta that Suge was dealing with.
20:14Sean wanted me to take $50,000 out of the overhead account so he could buy her a diamond necklace,
20:22wooing her because she was Suge's side piece in Atlanta when he came there.
20:31A real police officer in a real police uniform came and got on the shape.
20:37I said, man, you touch the homie. We're going to tear this mother up.
20:41He said, well, I got to throw him out. I said, for what?
20:43He said, he was puppy.
20:44Suge and Jake is being escorted out the club by the off-duty officer we always had there moonlighting.
20:55Jake comes out, Suge come out, Puff come out. Everybody's outside.
21:01A man appeared with one hand behind his back and he was holding a pistol.
21:07He touched Jake with the pistol and he looked at Suge like this and was shooting Suge Fran like this.
21:18He shot him five times.
21:23Suge grabbed the hold to Puffy and the choke hold and put him in the front of him like this.
21:30So he was moving Puff around like this in case you shoot him.
21:33You're going to shoot Puffy. You're not going to shoot me.
21:35Puff was like, it's going to be all right, man. It's going to be all right.
21:43Suge said, what you mean it's going to be all right?
21:47He said, tell your mama it's going to be all right.
21:50Tell your kids it's going to be all right.
21:53And then the shooter ran.
21:59Ambulance came and took Jake to the hospital.
22:02A couple of days later, he died.
22:06That's what started the East Coast, West Coast war.
22:12We're through. We're through. We're through. We're through. We're through.
22:15We're through. We're through. We're through.
22:17Tupac Shakur out of the hospital after surgery from bullet wounds is convicted on sex charges.
22:21After Puff gets shot in Quad studio. He had the rape case.
22:27A New York jury convicted the rapper of first degree sexual abuse, but acquitted him of more serious charges.
22:32Since your period of incarceration at Clinton Correctional Facility, have you taken the time to reflect on your gangster thug image?
22:43Puck and Big were friends at one time. But then once Puck is in jail, Bad Boy and all of his associations were nemesises.
22:56When I'm in jail, strangers is telling me, you know, you don't know? Big your old boy shot you.
23:04Cause they bragging. They telling their in jail. Yo, we just got Puck.
23:08Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
23:11Once the conflict happens, Puck needed someone strong that was gonna stand with him.
23:20And it just so happened that Suge had his own issues with Puffy.
23:26So Suge went to jail and visited him.
23:30The whole shit was like some mob shit.
23:34Into Tupac, a young captain.
23:38I'm going to join the family, dog.
23:40Get me out.
23:43Suge Knight first signed Tupac to a recording contract
23:47when Tupac was in this New York state prison,
23:50unable to come up with the million dollars needed for bail,
23:53while his lawyers appealed a 1995 conviction for sexual assault.
23:59I want everybody to give a big welcome.
24:02Tupac, Tupac.
24:07Out on bail, rapper Tupac Shakur's rushed-to-market double album All Eyes on Me
24:11debuts at number one on this week's Billboard chart.
24:13With the addition of Tupac, there's no way y'all can stop us now.
24:16If you say Bad Boy, I say fuck them all.
24:21We're coming to the East Coast to prove there is no fear.
24:24Overthrow the government y'all got right now, which is Bad Boy and all that bullshit.
24:28And we will bring a new government here that will feed every person in New York.
24:31All right, cool, man.
24:32All right, man.
24:33Thanks a lot.
24:35Sean tried everything to get Biggie upset.
24:38He had to go at him with business.
24:41This guy came at us.
24:43I was more on a mind frame.
24:44Keep your mouth shut, Biggie.
24:48You know what I'm saying?
24:49Just don't feed into it.
24:52If you feed into it, it's going to do nothing but escalate.
24:55You know what I'm saying?
24:56Biggie never wanted to be an enemy to Pac.
24:59As things was coming from the West Coast, Biggie did not want to give any shots back.
25:05When Pac was producing All Eyes on Me, he called us and said, I just fucked Faith Evans, Big's wife.
25:15We was like, what?
25:16First off, fuck your bitch in the clique you claim.
25:19Westside when we ride, come equip with gang.
25:21You claim to be a player, but I fucked your wife.
25:24We bought some...
25:24No, that's not true at all.
25:26Biggie stole my husband legally.
25:28I am having his baby.
25:29No, I'm not.
25:30Sean kept putting pressure on Biggie.
25:32You got to answer back.
25:35Tupac would have me pissed off, you know what I'm saying?
25:37And the rumors that's spreading is on some tip like we set him up.
25:43You know what I'm saying?
25:44And that's crazy.
25:45The East Coast, West Coast thing was invented, period.
25:49Because no matter what, we all went to the East.
25:51They came here, went to the West, whatever.
25:52They wasn't arguing with each other.
25:55We was able to roam.
25:56Fuck Biggie, fuck Bad Boy as a staff, record label, and as a motherfucking crew.
26:01It was this Bad Boy in death row.
26:05And that right there put people in danger because it made people be like, F you, F you.
26:10And people started doing stuff for no reason because it's just people that want to ride for each other.
26:16And then look what happened.
26:22Doing the street thing.
26:24My affiliation was with the Mansfield hustlers.
26:29Today, we go by Mansfield gangster Crips now.
26:36Police say the drugs and violence are being spread by two longstanding rivals in the Los Angeles youth gang scene.
26:42Groups who call themselves Crips and wear blue colors and Bloods who wear red.
26:48Did you guys provide protection?
26:52Sean Combs was a friend.
26:56Christopher Wallace was a friend.
26:57And, you know, when we're hanging out with our friends, we're going to protect our friends.
27:06So they knew.
27:09And they were our associates.
27:11You got beef with them, you got beef with me.
27:14Period.
27:16A number of reports have come out that Bad Boy Entertainment had actually hired Crips for security work out on the West Coast.
27:21Is that true?
27:21Um, we've never hired Crips or any other gang faction to do security for us.
27:30It would be extremely unintelligent to hire, um, a gang, some gangs to do security for you.
27:36A lot of the New York guys come out to L.A.
27:40Zip is a person that I know that was Puffy's man.
27:45That was his guy.
27:46Eric Von Zip is a drug lord from Harlem, but Sean told me he was his uncle.
27:54He might have known Janice on the fringe.
27:57He might have known Sean's father from those days.
28:00Zip had a relationship with the Southside Crips, and then he also had a relationship with us.
28:08Sean said Zip can give us protection going back and forth to L.A.
28:13because he was in with the Crips, and we had a beef with Suge Knight and the Bloods.
28:19Knight dresses in all red, the colors of the drug-dealing Bloods street gang.
28:25One of the death row people got jumped by someone at a mall, and that someone was from Southside Crips.
28:34One of the Crips tried to take a death row chain.
28:39I think that was an order from Bad Boy.
28:41That was an order from Puff, because it was specific.
28:45We want a death row chain.
28:48Introducing the one and only Iron, Mike Tyson!
28:53Everybody got what they wanted that night.
29:00People got to see Tyson knock a motherfucker out.
29:04And Tyson with a left hook and Selvin is down.
29:08It's over in the first round!
29:12That's probably the reason this guy was all fucked up in a lot of shit from the fight night.
29:17When you've seen a Tyson fight, you want to fight.
29:20At the fight, the guy who was ripped off for the death row chain is with Suge and Pac.
29:36He just whispers to Pac, that's him.
29:41It was Orlando Anderson from Southside Crips, who was connected with Puff.
29:50They said, I know, I see Pac like, phew.
29:54It's like your niggas down.
30:04That was the foundational moment when all this was getting out of control.
30:10I'm out on one right now.
30:13I got a double-guy shot and a medical ASAP.
30:16Rapper Tupac Shakur was shot in the chest late-
30:22This morning shot multiple times in the chest in a drive-by shooting.
30:25Death row record label owner Marion Suge Knight was also in the car, but his injuries were minor.
30:31Craig called me up.
30:33It was late.
30:33He was out there at the fight because he was supposed to have performed at some club that Suge owned.
30:44And I guess Tupac was supposed to come through.
30:46He was like, how come Tupac just got shot?
30:51Craig was, like, scared.
30:53Who was he scared of?
30:54Probably Puff.
30:56He ended up not going to death row after that.
31:04Hi, I'm Tabitha Soren with MTV News.
31:06Controversial rapper and actor Tupac Shakur has died in a Las Vegas hospital of complications from several...
31:12I was in jail.
31:13I was in jail when he got shot.
31:16There was a lot of niggas in jail that was celebrating Puff's death.
31:21I'm glad that I didn't kill anybody or anybody killed me.
31:27But I damn sure came close.
31:31Police in Las Vegas say they have no motive for this latest shooting.
31:35But the rapper's troubled past will certainly be part of the investigation.
31:42Do you know who was responsible for the killing of Tupac Shakur?
31:45No, I don't.
31:47I think that Sean now, in my mature mind, had a lot to do with the death of Tupac.
32:03In 2006, I was recruited to work a task force that was going to look at a cold case investigation.
32:10At the time, Tupac's murder was an unsolved case.
32:16Gang crimes oftentimes are difficult to solve because you don't get cooperating witnesses.
32:21They want to stick to a code that typically entails not cooperating with law enforcement and then taking matters into your own hands.
32:30It ain't my job to snitch on nobody, because I would never snitch on nobody.
32:34We had built a narcotics case against Keefe-Dee.
32:39Keefe-Dee was kind of the shock caller for the Southside Crips.
32:43He was the most prominent drug dealer.
32:45He was very influential in his gang.
32:48His nephew, Orlando Anderson, was a very well-known violent gang member.
32:53Tupac Shakur had assaulted Orlando Anderson just after the Mike Tyson fight.
33:01So Keefe-Dee was potentially looking at a life sentence for federal drug trafficking.
33:07We wanted to question him about his potential role in the murder of Tupac Shakur.
33:11We let him know that he could potentially mitigate some of the damages if he wanted to come in and talk to us.
33:18And the U.S. attorney agreed that they'd allow Keefe-Dee to do a proffer session.
33:24Keefe, today what we're going to do, we're just going to go over with a fine-tooth comb, do a Las Vegas incident.
33:30We do have to emphasize to you, it's determined that some of these details are incorrect and everything's off the table.
33:37A proffer session is when a person facing criminal charges can answer questions wherein self-incriminating information would not be used against him in a criminal prosecution.
33:50Doesn't mean they have any kind of immunity.
33:54Hey, I want to say this story too.
33:57I feel like I said that day, don't bullshit me and I won't bullshit y'all.
34:02You know what I'm saying?
34:02In the year prior to the murder of Tupac Shakur, he has had several conversations with Sean Combs.
34:11I met him all. He gave a party at.
34:15That's where I met him.
34:18The first day I met him.
34:19Sean Combs' affiliation with the Southside Crips came by way of a New York street figure known as Zip.
34:27Zip set up the introduction between Combs and Keefy D, and then they developed their own relationship.
34:36And Zip introduced me, this is my boy.
34:39What are you introducing, man?
34:40This is my friend, this is my nephew.
34:41That's my boy.
34:42My boy, this is Paul.
34:44And after that, they used my car on the video.
34:47Which car was I in?
34:49The 64 Chevy I have.
34:54What color was it?
34:55Wow.
34:57I was ushered a video, and Pup was driving the car, ushered a person, whatever.
35:01He was in a Laker uniform, and he had the little kid dancing on my car.
35:04When it got back, it was fucked up, and he paid to get it repainted.
35:15Pup, he called Zip on, and he wanted to speak to me.
35:18They gave it a VE2 tour, and then I, he gave us some tickets, and I brought the crew.
35:23You say, I want to hear a new flavor, ain't you here?
35:26I want to hear a new flavor.
35:28Yeah, yeah.
35:29Jacket, yeah.
35:30To all the ladies in the place.
35:32Keefy D says that Sean Combs kind of makes this general announcement while they're all inside
35:40of a hotel room after a musical event.
35:44So it's Harrell, Puffy, Zip, you.
35:47About 40-something soft-siders.
35:49Yeah.
35:50That was stupid as hell, too, you know?
35:54Shit, he said he didn't kill us anything for no dudes there, you know?
35:57Tupac and Shug, you mean?
35:59Yeah.
35:59He said it in front of all those people, I couldn't believe you, you know what I'm saying?
36:05All home full of crips.
36:07So this is after Jake got killed.
36:09So he was, he was on point, he was worried about something happening.
36:11Yeah.
36:12Shit got miles off about a bunch of different stuff, so he was scared.
36:14He was scared to death.
36:16Yeah.
36:16Okay.
36:16Okay.
36:18Then there's a more specific incident that takes place at a deli on Sunset Strip in Los Angeles,
36:23a place called Greenblatt's Deli.
36:25What made it a specific, like, hey, I'm serious, I want you guys to kill this, these guys?
36:31Well, he told me the Greenblatt.
36:34When we got there, we were laughing at him.
36:36Because he was just, bro, to suck dick.
36:39To suck every dick in there.
36:40He hung up kissing or whatever.
36:42We were laughing like a woman.
36:43I'm like, man, what you laughing at, dawg?
36:45Man, don't just come out here and get in any bra, dawg.
36:49I took him downstairs and he's like, man, I gotta get rid of those dudes, man.
36:53It won't be a problem.
36:58It was after he made the record.
37:00Hit him up, came out.
37:01Yeah, yeah, that pissed him off.
37:06Yeah, we were on a million.
37:09He tells you, seriously, man, I need to get rid of these guys.
37:12I mean, he's looking at you in the eyes and he's, like, scared.
37:15Yeah.
37:16You tell him, we'll do it for a million, and he's like, okay, I'll do it for a million?
37:21He agrees, he's shaking on it or something like that?
37:24Yeah.
37:25What happened?
37:26You know, he, uh, I meant our shit out.
37:29We'll wipe the ass out quick, you know?
37:31It's nothing.
37:34Here we go, round one.
37:36Scheduled for 12.
37:37And Tyson comes right up, right up.
37:39He says that when Las Vegas happens, and they're all out there, and his nephew gets assaulted
37:44by Tupac, they're like, this is the perfect occasion.
37:47We was eating, and, man, they came and said, he just beat up Lane.
37:54And we was in the hotel, yeah, at the MGM and the restaurant.
37:58There was a few New Yorkers, though, with Zip.
38:01Like, man, y'all need some help?
38:04We got this.
38:05It's your perfect opportunity, baby.
38:08Remember Zip coming?
38:09Yeah.
38:09Because of what happened with him?
38:10Yeah, yeah.
38:12We and I don't know if this was down there, and, uh, he told me in the lobby that he had
38:16some jimmies.
38:18Some what?
38:18He had a jimmy.
38:20He had a big hands.
38:22He had a little secret compartment.
38:24The thing popped out.
38:26The vehicle that Zip was driving that night reportedly had what we call a trap in it,
38:32which is a concealed compartment where you can place a gun.
38:37It's a difficult thing to find.
38:40Zip had driven that car to Las Vegas.
38:44A few days before Tupac was murdered, Sean requested that we rent cars and have multiple
38:54drivers drive clear across the country to this fight.
39:00But I arranged through my budget to make that trip happen for those drivers.
39:07And to this day, it stands out in my mind.
39:10Why did we rent multiple cars?
39:13Why did we hire people from Harlem and other locations to drive?
39:19Can you tell us if, hey, we're going to go handle this shit or whatever?
39:24Yeah, they asked, like, if y'all want us to come?
39:27I'm like, we know where them motherfuckers are at.
39:29They were telling us they're going to be at the 662 club.
39:31Two cars going 662?
39:33Yeah.
39:34The van and the cabin.
39:36They didn't show up.
39:37We waited about 15, 20 minutes.
39:39They didn't show up.
39:40So they was like, let's go get some liquor.
39:44And we came up Harlan at the Las Vegas Boulevard.
39:49And, oh, shit.
39:50Here they come in that BMW.
39:52They can't get cars.
39:53On their way to the club, Suge is blaring his music too loud.
39:58He gets pulled over by some police officers.
40:01They essentially, you know, say, just turn down your music.
40:04No big deal.
40:05And it's at this point in time that Suge and Tupac see these girls.
40:11So what directed your attention to them?
40:40There was some girls shouting at Tupac.
40:42Tupac!
40:43He gave us up away.
40:44Otherwise, it would have gone away.
40:47And he leaned over on the window.
40:50We were on the window.
40:51Popped.
40:53Suge looks over.
40:54He sees you.
40:55Yeah.
40:56Yeah, he's looking at him.
40:59Fuck is he doing what he does when we were seven or eight years old?
41:03I seen a bully going, Suge, yeah.
41:05I thought he was dead.
41:07I thought he was dead.
41:08If you knew who killed Tupac, would you tell the police?
41:13Absolutely not.
41:16I'm going to park the car.
41:18Put the gun on the tire and look.
41:20Where'd you guys go?
41:21We smoke weed and rain.
41:23Yeah, that way.
41:24At a hotel?
41:25At a hotel.
41:25At a party in the room.
41:27And they pulled up in the ambulance while we were standing right there.
41:31Take our bullshit.
41:32You guys on the street, what was with?
41:34We on Las Vegas Boulevard at the crosswalk.
41:37And they pulled up a damn lamp red next to us.
41:39And we come in the car already?
41:41We had Tupac and Chung in the car.
41:43This is close.
41:44Did they see you?
41:46No, they couldn't see.
41:47We didn't give a fuck.
41:48We didn't give a fuck.
41:48I'm talking about the damn lamp from the park right here.
41:51Red next to us.
41:52That shit was as funny as a bull.
41:54Come on.
41:54And I haven't ever told nobody this to root of me.
42:01So you get back to L.A. the next day, Zip calls you, says, meet me at the Hollywood place.
42:05Where at?
42:06We're going to mail her.
42:07In my peace.
42:08You guys go over there, Zip shows up.
42:10You guys, what happens to that?
42:12People call it, was that us?
42:14He told them, yeah, it was us.
42:15On Zip's phone or your phone?
42:16Oh, Zip phone.
42:17And Zip gives you the phone?
42:20Yeah.
42:21People say, was that us?
42:23You was happier there?
42:24Oh, shit.
42:24And did you ask him then about his money?
42:26When you're going to get paid or whatever?
42:27No, I don't know how to tell you that on the phone.
42:29I'm going to Zip.
42:30I'm going to Zip.
42:31Go get her cash.
42:32Okay, so you tell Zip we need to get paid.
42:35What does Zip say?
42:36I'm going to go back home and have it?
42:37Yeah, I'll get back with y'all.
42:39Yeah.
42:42According to Keefe D, he was never compensated for the murder.
42:47But he said that a partial amount of the money was intended to be forwarded to him
42:53through Zip to the tune of about $500,000.
42:57The million dollar solicitation amount, only half of it was fulfilled because only Tupac and
43:05not Shug was killed.
43:06Keefe D has a conversation with Darius Rogers, with DMACC.
43:12He don't let the DMACC introduce to the DMACC right there.
43:15And DMACC says there had been a payment from Combs to Keefe D, but it had gone through Zip,
43:25and then that money was never forwarded.
43:28We're just hoping and waiting to see what kind of progress Las Vegas would make with Keefe D's
43:38cooperation.
43:40Nothing really happens.
43:44Ultimately, Zip dies from cancer.
43:47Thank you for coming out the Zips, and I want everybody to know that when you come here,
43:52we want to keep your peace.
43:54And Orlando Anderson is shot and killed in 1998.
43:58So it's really Keefe D and Puffy Combs are the last men standing.
44:03They can be held accountable for Tupac Shakur's murder.
44:06Keefe D and Puffy Combs
44:36Keefe D and Puffy Combs
45:06Keefe D and Puffy Combs
45:08I remember 99, we were working in the studio on a song called Muscle Gang.
45:15This is our gang.
45:18We ain't playing with you, these niggas.
45:21Come on, man.
45:22The song comes on, and Puff was talking in the beginning.
45:25It's 1999.
45:29No more Mr. Nice guys.
45:31I'm like, what is he talking about?
45:33Everything that's done in the dark must come to light.
45:45Everything that goes up must come down.
45:47Yeah, I'm headed to hunt 13th and Lennox, King.
46:10I gotta catch my man up there.
46:12I'll see you up there.
46:14Are y'all rolling?
46:15Yeah, we rolling.
46:16With the backdrop of East Coast, West Coast beef, Sean took Biggie to Los Angeles to record what would be the finishing touches on Biggie's Life After Death album, which wasn't titled that yet.
46:41Yo.
46:46Yo, baby, wake up, wake up, baby.
46:48Diddy, what the fuck, man?
46:49What's up?
46:50Come on, man.
46:51It's a quarter to six.
46:51We got the 7.30 flight.
46:53Going to LAX.
46:54Whoa.
46:55Cali?
46:56No doubt, baby.
46:58We had been warned to not come to LA.
47:01There were warnings all along for the last few months that we are not to set foot on the West Coast.
47:09It was awards show season, and Sean wanted him to start promoting the album.
47:16Come on, Saltrain, get up out your seats.
47:18Come on.
47:19Get up out your seats.
47:21Biggie did not want to go, but Sean talked him into doing all of those things.
47:27Down low, get up out your seats.
47:29They were like catcalling and booing.
47:42What's up, Cali?
47:43We were not welcome.
47:47After the awards show, Saturday morning, Biggie and I were to go to London, and we were going
47:53to have a two-, three-day press junket, to have Biggie be one of the first artists from
47:58Bad Boy to meet the European press.
48:01I had worked on that for months and weeks leading up.
48:04We were supposed to go to the airport that morning.
48:08I'm calling Biggie like crazy.
48:10What's going on?
48:11Wake up.
48:12He's like, yo, Puff is bugging.
48:14He just called me and told me, I want you to stay here in LA.
48:18I don't want to stay.
48:19I want to go.
48:20But Sean was adamant, cancel the flight.
48:27Biggie's not going to the UK.
48:29What do you mean he's not going to click?
48:30He hangs up.
48:32This was his M.O.
48:34Ego, power, tripping.
48:36All of it because Sean wanted to do a party on enemy turf.
48:47Scared to death.
48:51That's how real it is.
48:52I think somebody's trying to kill me.
48:54I'll be waking up paranoid.
48:55I'll be really scared.
48:57I'll just be peril.
48:58That night, Big and Puffy was with us.
49:13They were having a party.
49:20I spoke to Big.
49:22I was like, yo, man, you know, what are you doing?
49:25Catching LA, man, they get down in these circumstances, man.
49:30And you just can't be walking around here freely.
49:42Everybody's mean.
49:46I look around.
49:47I say, where's Big?
49:50I want to get out.
49:52Get out.
49:53They're running.
49:54They say, wait, hold up, hold up.
49:55There's a street.
49:57Ooh, man.
49:57I don't know.
49:58Why don't you see?
50:02So, yeah.
50:07That's Big and Puffy.
50:08That is Big and Puffy.
50:09Y'all get down.
50:10Somebody got shot.
50:10That is Big and Puffy.
50:11Somebody got shot.
50:12Y'all get down.
50:14And what about you reporting?
50:16Yeah, we need an ambulance on Fairfax and Wilshire.
50:20Please, Los Angeles.
50:21Fairfax and Wilshire.
50:22We have a man's shot.
50:22We have a shot.
50:24Okay, hold on.
50:25I can't hear what you're saying we're man shot in our car right now
50:36right now we're trying to run to the hospital
50:38I know the way
50:39I gotta go back
50:43you gotta turn around Jimmy
50:44you're going the wrong way
50:45what the fuck is wrong with y'all man
50:47yo baby
50:49I was following Big's lead on like you know we're going to do this peace tour
50:59and you know it didn't work out
51:05Sean said it on can't stop won't stop
51:08Biggie wanted to go
51:10he's lying about that
51:16Sean wanted that trip
51:19and was pushing it for weeks and weeks
51:22he lied about it
51:24and let me know
51:26that's a weak spot for him
51:28and he's nervous about that information
51:30he ushered Biggie to his death
51:39who do you think killed Biggie?
51:46next question
51:48all it was is a puffy and suge knight war
51:53you're messing with lives here
51:56and that's exactly what happened
51:58two lives were lost as a result of what?
52:01stupidity?
52:03when I sat down with Valetta
52:05we briefly brought up Sean Combs
52:07it was clear to me
52:09that she had no real respect or appreciation for him
52:12Sean clearly didn't do all that he could have done
52:15to help out in the investigation
52:17in fact he was a hindrance in the investigation
52:20puffy was kind of stonewalling people from talking
52:24because he knows
52:25if you make inroads on Biggie's murder
52:28you're going to make inroads on Tupac's murder
52:31and that potentially can lead right back to him
52:34now we're Biggie's mom and Faith and the kids taking all this
52:40Biggie's moms and Faith and the children are extremely strong
52:44they've been, matter of fact, they've been strong for me
52:47and helping to hold me up
52:48Sean assumed the position of his best friend
52:53in every article and publication
52:56and that wasn't necessarily true
52:59and I'm going to be there for them
53:01just like he would be there for them
53:02to make sure that they're alright
53:03Sean said
53:05we're going to do the biggest funeral for Biggie
53:07that New York has ever seen
53:09and we start to put that together
53:12he starts to see the price
53:13and he says
53:15we're going to do the biggest funeral
53:16but Biggie's going to have to pay for this funeral
53:19he was going to make the funeral
53:22be a recoupable charge to Biggie in death
53:26this is one of my closest friends
53:30and it's still one of my closest friends
53:32I just, I feel his loss
53:35I just miss him so much
53:37Sean doing a big show looks good on him
53:41but he's not going to tell the world
53:44that Biggie was going to pay for it
53:49in Bed Star, Brooklyn
53:56the whole hood was outside
53:59if you could make it there
54:01you was there
54:01it was a big loss for the city
54:05I loved Biggie
54:08Biggie inspired me
54:10he gave me hope
54:11he made us feel like you was from the town
54:13you could make it
54:14we loved Biggie
54:15so it was like losing a family member
54:17he just wanted to be a rap superstar
54:21he didn't want to hurt nobody
54:24he was probably one of the only people
54:27I had really trusted
54:28like for a long time
54:29it's not a feeling that I really felt a lot
54:32like in my life
54:33I don't really have a lot of friends
54:35I think people think I have a lot of friends
54:37you know
54:37I don't think I really make a good friend
54:41before he was assassinated
54:45Biggie had an opportunity
54:47to be on the cover of Rolling Stone
54:50we were delivering the elements
54:53so that can happen
54:54and Sean called me and said
54:56pull that cover
54:57I need to be on the cover
54:58my solo album is coming in July
55:01no way out
55:02and I need to amp that up
55:04he took the cover from Biggie
55:09another thing at the time
55:15Biggie was negotiating his contract
55:18every day I wake up
55:19we acquiesced
55:22and gave him everything he wanted
55:24and then he died
55:25can't believe you ain't here
55:26Sean wanted me
55:30to change the agreement
55:32to more favorable terms for bad boy
55:35and his family and mother would not know
55:37and since he had signed the agreement
55:39he wanted those changes
55:42to come from out of the center
55:44of the agreement
55:45and have those pages replaced
55:47with the other terms
55:48and I said
55:48that's not right
55:49I'm not doing it
55:5090 days later
55:52I'm fired
55:53it's like I feel empty inside
55:56without you being here
55:57I remember Michael Jackson
56:06the Motown 25 special
56:08MTV
56:09Madonna Like a Virgin
56:11and I remember Puff
56:12with Sting
56:13everywhere else you take
56:16I never knew you
56:20having a TV moment in music
56:23it's very rare
56:24it elevates you
56:25to such another level
56:27of superstar
56:28it made him rock star bitch
56:30it's kinda hard
56:32but you're not around
56:33know you in heaven
56:34smiling down
56:35watching us while we pray for you
56:37he became humongous
56:38but now it's him
56:40now I'm the man
56:42it was like a dream come true
56:44to see the lines
56:46like in front of the stores
56:47like people going there
56:49to get my record
56:50it's crazy
56:52it all happened pretty quickly
56:53for you
56:53from being an intern
56:54to being on the cover
56:56of the rolling snow
56:58thanks for Biggie's mother
57:00who's sitting right there
57:00for having Notorious V.I.G.
57:04you've abused everyone
57:05and used most everyone
57:07there are horror stories
57:13like this
57:14all throughout
57:16cleared of gun possession
57:17and bribery charges
57:18Sean Puffy Combs
57:20walked out of free man
57:21some people speak up about it
57:22most do not
57:24the first member
57:25is
57:26Aubrey
57:28it's
57:29a pattern with him
57:30violence was a very
57:34normalized part
57:35of living in that world
57:36allegations of sexual misconduct
57:41Huffy called these encounters
57:42free calls
57:43witnessed Diddy
57:44abusing Cassie
57:45and that they
57:46encouraged Cassie
57:47to get away from him
57:48everything in life
57:51you're gonna have
57:51people that are bad
57:52and people that are good
57:53you know
57:54you have to choose your side
57:56I love you
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