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24 Hours in Police Custody A Family Vendetta Part 1 of 2 (8th December 2025)
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00:00I just heard what I think is two gunshots.
00:30ARV's head straight to the address, half a mile, yep, they're on the floor, this lad.
00:37ARV's are literally about three, four minutes out.
00:41Nails straight in the head, bleeding out.
00:45All ARV's head straight to the address is just to come around multi-circuit.
00:50Get a first aid.
00:53Get a first aid kit!
00:56Can you hear me?
01:02Can you hear me?
01:03Clear.
01:04Let them sort after us.
01:06Jesus Christ.
01:08Instant death.
01:10Let's just keep going.
01:12Whose house is this?
01:14Okay, who are you to him?
01:15Nathan.
01:16My room!
01:17Right clear!
01:18Left clear!
01:19Can you do first aid?
01:20I'll be honest.
01:21Yeah.
01:22There's no problem with that.
01:23There's no problem with that.
01:24If injuries aren't compatible with life, man, you need to make that assessment.
01:27If they're not, then that's right.
01:29Are you happy with just two of you on the point, yeah?
01:31Right, yeah.
01:32Right, yeah.
01:33Just two of you safe in, then.
01:34Can you come out?
01:35It's out with the face in case he comes back, all right?
01:37It's loaded.
01:38No.
01:39Absolutely hopeless.
01:40There's nothing to be done here.
01:41We've got a white purge that's all got so far.
01:42Er, it was, I think it was 207.
01:43Yeah.
01:44307.
01:45Yeah.
01:46AK-14.
01:47Yeah.
01:48Or AX-14.
01:49Oh, let's see.
01:50Can I pass the update at this stage, please?
01:52Go ahead.
01:53From neighbours.
01:54Victim's name, Josh.
01:55In relation to the subject vehicle, it's either Alpha X-Ray 1-4 or Alpha Kilo 1-4 white
02:17Peugeot.
02:18Yeah, that's all we see, mate.
02:19Thank you, mate.
02:20Police emergency.
02:21How can I help?
02:22My husband's come home.
02:23Outside on the gravel are two shotgun pellets, and we can't find our neighbour.
02:27It's all about 6-1-1.
02:28Stand by.
02:29I've got a linked incident coming through.
02:30You hear that?
02:31Fine, he's dead.
02:32He's dead.
02:33He's dead.
02:34We've got a local unit there.
02:35I've got a linked incident coming in now.
02:374-6-4.
02:38Got another address.
02:39We hope the show's fired.
02:40We hope the show's fired.
02:42We've got a local unit there.
02:43I've got a linked incident coming in now.
02:464-6-4.
02:47Got another address.
02:48We hope the show's fired.
02:49The road is starting.
02:50She's fired.
02:51The road is starting.
02:52She's fired.
02:53That's copy to ARV1.
02:54The immediate to that location, please.
02:56We're coming as well.
02:57What is going on?
03:02It's crucial that we find the truth.
03:08Three, two, three.
03:09Hands are on your back.
03:11Got to question everything.
03:14Believe nobody.
03:15It's almost a game of chess.
03:18Trying to slip up.
03:19This is your opportunity to talk to me.
03:20This is your opportunity to talk to me.
03:22...
03:23...
03:24...
03:25...
03:26It's a heavy wound.
03:27...
03:28...
03:29It's always fairly unprecedented up here.
03:31We're getting multiple addresses with shops fired.
03:32We're getting multiple addresses with shops fired.
03:35Can I get support, please?
03:36Just up to an area of Cambridge here, please.
03:41317, just arrived at the first address.
03:45We've got clean preservation.
03:47Starts right.
03:49Victims right in the hallway.
03:50Injury's not compared to where life is.
03:52Just give us an effort, we'll head off.
03:54The victim at the first address in Bluntisham
03:57is believed to be 32-year-old Joshua Dunmore.
04:00I've got family and friends coming up,
04:03sick and fighting it's been.
04:05I've just had a phone call of someone saying
04:07that they've heard that something's gone on with Josh,
04:10so I'm his best friend, obviously, so I've come straight here.
04:14Hello, mate.
04:16I can't allow you in at the moment.
04:19Who's it? Is it Josh?
04:20Has his dad been called?
04:22Is he in the ambulance?
04:24No.
04:26Can you just tell me, please?
04:29The person's deceased.
04:30They're not in that address.
04:33This is Darren.
04:35Josh, he's the brother.
04:37This is what?
04:40Can I tell him?
04:41Of course you can.
04:47Just stay calm, mate.
04:49Just stay calm.
04:50We're going to tell his dad now, OK?
04:52I've got to ring the brother.
04:53I'm really sorry.
04:53It's all right, if you can stand here with me.
04:55I've got aç½ .
04:56I'll say my dad now, OK?
04:57That's it.
04:58That's it, I've got some.
04:59That's it.
05:01I'll speak about to arrive until second address.
05:03That's it.
05:04Apparently, there is a deceased now at the address.
05:10The victim at the moment is unidentified.
05:13We believe the suspect in the possession of a shotgun.
05:18Immediate kind of actions for you guys to confirm we've got no other injured party.
05:22No one else around that address presenting any imminent threat to life.
05:26Did you get anything from the bin?
05:28Hello, mate. Can you hear me?
05:30Well, hello. Can you hear me? Not compatible.
05:32We're here to support. Not compatible.
05:35We're here to support if you need. Do it on your own if you can, yeah?
05:38I'll hold downstairs, bro. You work upstairs.
05:42I have E3.
05:46Two shotgun shells here.
05:47Two shotgun shells at the location.
05:50Vehicle not here.
05:51ARV1 doing an emergency search in the property.
05:54Oh, police! Anyone in the building?
05:57OK, did you take right?
05:59Yeah.
06:00Open door, left step.
06:03You all right?
06:05Room's clear.
06:06What we're hearing is injuries not compatible with life.
06:09Second deceased male.
06:11My room. Room clear.
06:14Room clear.
06:15Happy house clear?
06:16Happy.
06:17Yeah.
06:19Subject vehicle, left location approximately 1-5, 15 minutes ago.
06:23It's a bit surreal, isn't it?
06:26Two minutes ago, I was watching her.
06:31I'd advise not contacting them at all.
06:33I'm just trying to get hold of my brother, OK?
06:35I understand that.
06:36Yeah.
06:37It's a bit.
06:38It's a bit.
06:39It's a bit.
06:40It's a bit.
06:41Let's eat some.
06:42OK.
06:43I'm going to need to keep you here, OK?
06:44Yeah, OK.
06:45It's OK.
06:46I know this is a big, big shock and I know it's a lot to take in.
06:50There's someone at Gary's address.
06:51Is it my brother?
06:52Sorry.
06:53It's not Żeby, it is.
06:54It's not that much.
06:55It's a bit.
06:56It's a bit.
06:57It's not a bit.
06:58It's a bit.
06:59It's not a bit.
07:00It's not a bit.
07:01It's a bit.
07:02It's a bit.
07:03I don't know.
07:04It's not a bit.
07:05It's not a bit.
07:06Yes, sir.
07:07Yes, sir.
07:08I can.
07:09I can't.
07:10It's not...
07:11I can't.
07:13It's not a bit.
07:14I can't tell you.
07:15We can't.
07:16That's not a bit.
07:17Yeah.
07:18But we can't tell you just the,
07:19sorry now the police are Gary's the police are at Gary's address yes it's a
07:24Gary there yes yes no I'm really sorry I can't lie to you I'm so sorry I need
07:44it's my brother I know
07:45I've put a full message across North and South no you need to go home MCU will be aware of this
08:05yes yes send everyone's headquarters please and we'll freak in there
08:14this one is really savage savage scenes then let's just bottom off the witnesses and the
08:29segments we were going to try and get so scene one which is Joshua's house
08:34there's a few people that are saying they heard the bangs everybody's saying two shots within about
08:43four seconds of each other
08:44Jake he's saying he heard noises outside saw the gunman at 19 with the gun and then he found the
08:53body so it's secret to be done scene two which is Gary's house
09:00Joe um he knows a bit of the background and saw a white Peugeot driving away
09:08apparently there was a domestic related court case and there's been disgruntled
09:17arguments around that so we make some inquiries and then we can we can progress that
09:23if you know who he's on dispute with you need to tell me
09:27I don't know his name I'll find out he's American American forces he'd married
09:31so Josh is it okay there is a dispute yeah Josh won the case yeah they weren't happy
09:38thank you I'm being told from seeing that there was a court case which the ex-partner lost and
09:46the male at Buridan first won the court case they're saying that the new partner lost it in court and
09:52they think it's connected Mel's got short dark hair and I've been given a name of Paul Stevens
09:57possible suspect which is our Paul Stevens which is an American serviceman
10:04I was trying to establish more around him whether he's on the base whether he has
10:09firearms whether he has any specialist firearms training
10:13it's a bit concerning he's reloaded that before he's left
10:20surely can't we're going to do another one
10:23where's how's he going to end this bro where's this going to end thank you can you ask the
10:29family just know the two people yeah what do you do now
10:32the area that we need to be aware of
10:34what do you what do you do I'm thinking that other cars going to be burnt out in the next 10 minutes
10:40no I disagree yeah yeah I think you know what I think yeah I know but I'm just
10:46trying to think where do you go from here
10:48just to make you aware mate I've got another one coming in 479 shots fired
10:55jeez that's easy things
10:56something's happening he's going around on a vendetta
10:59I need to get you out of here now I want you all in your cars and I want you all to the
11:16police station now right just get in your cars get in your cars please and go to the police station
11:22now get in any car don't mind which car just get in cars and go
11:26just get in the car and go
11:30we have now got engine mass lifting
11:42they're 23 minutes out
11:47father and son Gary and Joshua Dunmore have been shot dead in their homes in Cambridgeshire
11:56while we established the fact that we lost GCTs
11:59I thought we've lost all this stuff and I believe they're coming up to support us
12:03search your foot in here you come from this end I'm going to go to the other entrance
12:07okay mate
12:08I'll link you over when we're in
12:09yep
12:10with more shots reported all units are deployed to track down the gunman on the run
12:17as armed officers continue the manhunt hello there it's the police the victim's family must be placed in protective custody
12:24for their own safety we have information to suggest there's an immediate risk of harm to you and we need to get you to a place of safety
12:31we're in the park area of Mill Lane
12:38just clear this little bit here just want to get upon these trees
12:45just clear this little bit here just want to get upon these trees
12:523 plus 44
12:5310 plus 44 go ahead
13:07go ahead
13:093 and pass is 5-4
13:1910 pass 5-4, go ahead
13:205-4, the recreation ground off field lane is negative, there's no one
13:263, there's a park with the surrounding roads and tracks
13:293, Romeo, 1-5-3
13:375-3, go ahead
13:38Have a seat in here
13:45I'm not sure how much has been passed to you, how much you're aware of
13:50About my brother and my dad, inshallah
13:55Okay
13:56In their own homes
13:58Sorry, Andrew, you probably don't know, have they found anybody yet?
14:06Have they found him?
14:06Don't want to talk, I stopped being on his own
14:11I grew up being friends with Josh, he's a very real nice man, both of them
14:26I speak to my dad and my brother, like every day
14:29Yeah
14:30Still in shock, so
14:32Yeah
14:33Um, yeah
14:34I think he'll be very old if you weren't
14:36You can hear me now, I'll go like my mum, my mum
14:40My poor, poor boy
14:41My poor, poor boy
14:42You could do such a thing
14:47You could do such a thing
14:54Yeah
14:55With the family safely secured at Huntingdon police station, officers continue the manhunt led by
15:01Cambridgeshire police's Oscar 1
15:03Cam's Oscar 1
15:05I've got a job going on now
15:07Someone's potentially in possession of a lethal weapon
15:10I've got inquiries going on with this Paul Stevens and trying to establish further details of the car
15:17Stand by, getting possible to index the suspect vehicle
15:22It's showing as a Mr. Steve Alderton
15:27Is this suspect not called Paul Stevens?
15:32So, Samantha Alderton, which is now Stevens, is the ex-partner of Joshua Dunmore
15:40So I think that Steven Alderton is probably her dad and Paul Stevens is her new partner
15:47Has dad got a firearms certificate?
15:50Yeah
15:53My basic sort of theory would be that Paul out doing his murders in conjunction with Steven
15:59Or Paul on his own
16:06As of 2341, Paul Stevens phone
16:10The phone is just pinging in the Holiday Inn
16:13Confirmed there is a room booked for Paul Stevens at that Holiday Inn
16:18Hello Daniel
16:19And there's two vehicles registered there as well
16:23If he's there, I would lift him for conspiracy to murder
16:30Occupants believe to be in room 319
16:33Mr. Paul Stevens, Mr. Paul Stevens, who is an American serviceman
16:36That's amazing
16:38Possibly he's still in possession of a firearm
16:40Right
16:42Positions can settle, just settle okay
16:44Are we looking at arresting both Paul Stevens and wife Samantha Stevens for conspiracy to commit murder?
16:50Yeah, but that's all ratified
16:51Yeah, but that's all ratified
16:53Please
16:54Containment's in place on room 319
16:58When us one's happy, we'll begin to call out
17:01He's happy for you to move forward
17:04That's copy
17:05Are we happy?
17:06Let's be robust with Paul
17:08Yeah
17:11Police, occupants of 319
17:13Come to the door with nothing in your hands
17:15Paul, it's armed police
17:19Open the door with nothing in your hands
17:21And listen to my instructions
17:24Slowly
17:25Hands
17:26Slowly, Paul
17:27Walk out towards me
17:29Keep walking
17:30Turn to face then
17:31Listen to their instructions
17:32Put your hands against the wall
17:34Hands against the wall
17:35Hands against the wall
17:36Don't move
17:37The door on the door
17:38It's quiet pressure
17:42Confirmed that's not been located at the address
17:45Don't have completely breached the car part
17:47We can't find it here at the hotel
17:51Just confirmed we've got contact with Paul and Samantha
17:55Yes, sir
18:00With the offender's vehicle still not located
18:03Officers take a statement from Joshua Dunmore's neighbour
18:05neighbor who phoned in the first murder as I come out my front door I see a guy
18:11coming out my neighbor's house I turn around and said to him what the fuck are
18:16you doing he then turned around and pointed a shotgun at me and told me that
18:23he was loaded what I need to say to you is really important two persons have
18:29been murdered this evening I'm arresting both of you and we need to arrange
18:33childcare civil childcare for the children okay Samantha what we'll do
18:37yourself and the children are just gonna go and wait back in the room is that
18:42your switch in the in the hotel room do you want to come and show me what games
18:46you've got come on Samantha okay kids coming up hello mate go on in what games
18:54got oh this is the big switch isn't it okay can you play piano you can play the piano very good
19:13mate are you all right are you guys CRD yeah yeah so we've got him upstairs now Paul they've
19:19both been lifted they're both devastated crying our hearts out but you would do wouldn't you
19:23Samantha if you've done nothing wrong you've got nothing to worry about the last thing we ever do
19:29is take children away from their parents but police stations aren't a nice place to go and in the long
19:34run you will appreciate a childcare solution we need somebody that you would trust in the very short
19:42term is there anyone you can think of at all I have E3 go ahead I have E3 in the interim are you happy that the
19:53children going to dad's cousins in Bristol I have you pointed that the children need to go straight
20:00into emergency foster placements people that don't know what the dynamics of the family set up is
20:05currently we've got the kids we want to bring them down we can then get them on the way how are you mate you all right
20:14the guy was agitated but he wasn't out of control and at that point I realized he can show me he
20:34was five foot eight five foot ten medium build he was about my age maybe a little bit older
20:44so I think as soon as I can I want to get away and get looking for Steven again
20:56just spoken to the next door neighbors of first victim's address and they said that they've seen
21:06an older male looking through the victim's letterbox just before this incident happened
21:10heavy blood staining around the driver's console area
21:38and in the boot there were two spent cartridges
21:42all right it's been saying a lot a few weeks now
21:54because there's only his car there
22:00the Tories Park they confirmed that Steven Alderton arrived with a mobile home and a small white car
22:16he lived there alone and it was on a rolling month basis
22:21this evening they see a white car come on site and they see Alderton's mobile home leaving site
22:31whilst officers tried to locate Steven Alderton in his motor home
22:43broken bus his son-in-law and daughter are taken into custody
22:50so it's alleged that the suspect has been involved in a murder of two miles
23:02from a colleague
23:03we believe we've got the vehicle for Steven Alderton hitting cameras on the M6 northbound
23:16yeah
23:20Fiat Swift in white
23:21we're thinking that he is in that vehicle
23:24travelling that county
23:25units currently on route to attempt to put a stopping on this car
23:30we're just past three five over five
23:37I'm going to find you now that we're at Junction 5
23:40and I look for seven months of honesty
23:43yes yes mate we have got four hours in combine driving this vehicle at the moment
23:47we are on the approach to Junction 5
23:50two mark hours stay tight as we approach 5
23:55you take the offside we will take the near side and Junction 5 4-5 and take them rear
24:01okay we're at the 3-2-1's now traffic are talking in for the sting stand by
24:06F4 push through
24:09Sting is good Sting is good Sting is good over
24:14good sting let's go
24:15good sting good sting
24:16good sting
24:17good sting
24:18okay we'll light it up there then
24:21a bit of hoeing, a bit of slowing, a bit of slowing
24:28stop, stop, stop
24:31police have tracked the suspect of the double murder more than 100 miles from the crime scenes
24:54clear
24:56police
25:00get out of the car
25:02you get out of the car now
25:05keep your head to the car
25:07get out of the car
25:09get out of the vehicle man
25:13walk towards me
25:15keep walking towards me
25:18keep walking towards me
25:20get out of the car
25:22Thank you. Put your hands out now. Hands out. Put your hands on your back.
25:28On secure. OK, mate, thank you. OK, let's get the vehicle cleared.
25:32What's your name?
25:35Steve Alderman.
25:38Is there anybody else in that vehicle?
25:41OK, let's get the vehicle cleared.
25:45Here for support if you need.
25:47You got any weapons in the vehicle at all? Yes.
25:49What have you got? I've got a shotgun.
25:51Shotgun is in the vehicle, fellas.
25:53Yeah, it's the old TV, yeah?
25:56Yes. Shotgun. Shotgun found.
25:59Sit down here.
26:03Oh, face isn't here.
26:06Not, is it?
26:11At this moment it's time.
26:13You're under arrest on suspicion of murder.
26:15Do you understand?
26:17It is in the moment yet, it is.
26:21Don't show this bit on TV.
26:31With all three suspects detained, officers speak to the victim's family and friends to better understand the family dynamics in the run-up to the murders.
26:41So part of what I've been talking to you is just for us to try and sort of gather a bit of a picture.
26:46What if you want to stand in a court case, we'd work that up, was that?
26:50A court case?
26:52Well, my brother started it three to four years ago.
26:56Oh wow, so a long time.
26:57It's a long time.
26:59Josh obviously has a son with Sam.
27:04Now they split up.
27:06Sam remarried an American Air Force airman, Paul.
27:11She met Paul on the base.
27:14They got together and had a baby.
27:17So she has a daughter with Paul and a son with Josh.
27:23Paul is posted back to the, to the States.
27:27She was going to move to America with Paul.
27:30And so basically there's a court case going on to try and prevent her from taking the son to America.
27:36Just follow around to that officer there for us, please.
27:47Me do one.
27:49Steven Alderton is brought to Worcester police station.
27:52Good morning.
27:54What's your name, sir?
27:56Steven Alderton.
27:58With a V or PH?
28:00Do you suffer with any mental health issues like anxiety, depression?
28:04I don't think so.
28:06I mean, I would probably say there's a sort of degree of stress, anxiety and like that.
28:14How are you feeling at the moment in yourself?
28:17Well, I mean, it's not exactly the best day.
28:21No, no.
28:23So how are you feeling? How are you?
28:26I'm not going to do anything.
28:27I'm not going to try and, you know, pop myself or anything else like that.
28:31So the circumstances, please.
28:33The gentleman has been identified as being wanted and suspicion of murder.
28:37Is it domestic related?
28:39Sort of.
28:42Sort of.
28:44Sarge, did you hear that?
28:45Sexual?
28:47That's all.
28:49No, no, no, no.
28:50Stephen Alderton will be held until the morning, when he will be taken to Cambridgeshire, where all three suspects will be questioned on the murders.
29:04Shocking news this morning.
29:17A murder investigation is underway after two shootings in Cambridgeshire villages last night.
29:23A 57-year-old man was shot dead in Sutton and a 32-year-old man in Blundersham.
29:28Police were called to this quiet close where I am at the moment in the small village of Blundersham in Cambridgeshire.
29:33You've got the blood which is on the floor there, so I'm just going to record that and swab it.
29:40Not even an hour later, police were called to be done.
29:43He was there, laid over, in towards the radiator.
29:47Uh-huh.
29:48The shots were the first thing.
29:50Yes.
29:51Which I'm assuming is from the first shot.
29:53Yes, that is the first shot.
29:54And I think that he potentially maybe grabbed the barrel as it came through the door.
29:59Notch, possibly.
30:00It just feels a bit weird that it was like that.
30:02Number two went in his body.
30:04Yes.
30:05Three and four while he's on the floor.
30:07We collected the shot pellets from the wall and the staircase, as many as we could.
30:13The tiny, tiny little pellets, the tiniest ones I've ever seen.
30:17Do we know, I mean, did Alderton regularly attend a gun club or anything, a shooting range or anything like that?
30:27Do we know?
30:29I think he was kind of doing like clay pigeon shooting.
30:32Yeah.
30:33But it wasn't like a regular hobby.
30:36Pretty sure these cartridges as well were kind of clay pigeon shooting cartridges.
30:41Right, okay.
30:42Yeah, we have his gun licensing on the GP records.
30:45Yeah.
30:46Yeah.
30:47And when you get your license refreshed, you have to get a note signed by a GP saying...
30:50Yeah, so you've got no mental health illnesses and stuff like that.
30:53There's a doctor's report in that bundle.
30:55Yeah, exactly.
30:56A full GP report.
30:58August 2022, no acute stress reactions, no suicidal thoughts, self-harm, no depression, no psychosis, no personality disorder.
31:06The officer in the case, Detective Constable Claire Atkinson, reviews body-worn footage of Stephen Alderton following his arrest.
31:23And then the truck is saying, you know, it's a, I come from a world where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where you're going to fad me.
31:33It actually makes me angry to watch it.
31:37It's so blase.
31:41It's horrible.
31:42It's horrible.
31:43It's horrible to watch.
31:44Just thinking that someone can be like that straight after they do so it's like, horrific, twice.
31:57While Stephen Alderton is processed through custody, detectives prepare to interview his daughter, Samantha,
32:01to be able to do so.
32:02It's horrible.
32:03It's horrible to watch.
32:04Just thinking that someone can be like that straight after they do so it's like, horrific, twice.
32:10It's horrible to watch.
32:11It's horrible to watch my life.
32:12It's horrible to watch my life.
32:13It's horrible to watch their story.
32:14I can do it.
32:15It's horrible to watch my life.
32:16It's horrible to watch my life.
32:17It's horrible to watch my life.
32:18But it's horrible.
32:19It's horrible to watch my life.
32:20I can do it twice.
32:21The second half, I can do it once.
32:22While Stephen Alderton is processed through custody, detectives prepare to interview his daughter Samantha,
32:27and her husband, Paul.
32:28So where do you want that?
32:31So that needs to be first, isn't it?
32:32And then her understanding of conspiracy?
32:34Yes.
32:35So that's all covered?
32:36Yeah, that's all covered.
32:37I'm going to just cover as well, any corresponding to the police.
32:39any correspondence with dad on monday the 27th of march was court day wasn't it
32:47this week josh and my dad and my mum they've all been to court and they've had a good court session
32:53where my brother's son he's got to stay at sam and paul sort of lost their battle i suppose
33:02and they were both extremely annoyed about their outcome from that court
33:20so this interview is being recorded and it may be used in evidence of your cases brought to trial
33:27today paul you've been arrested for an offensive conspiracy to murder
33:32a conspiracy is where two or more people discuss an offense that's going to take place
33:39you are being interviewed in relation to conspiracy to murder
33:44on monday the 27th of march 2023 you attended a family court hearing custody of your son who you
33:51shared with joshua dunmore then on wednesday the 29th of march 2023 joshua dunmore was shot and
33:58murdered at his home address on the same day gary dunmore was shot and murdered at his home address
34:05so you're saying to me the first time you were aware that something had happened was when the
34:10police came to the holiday inn this morning and you're saying you are not implicated that in any way
34:15we understand if this is correct yours and sam's plan is starting life in america and obviously
34:25the problem you've got is being co-parents being josh and they don't want him to go to america by the
34:30sound of it we've disclosed to you the solicitor that steve has also been arrested and that at the
34:37time of his arrest there was a shotgun in his car the clear implication in our minds is that steve has
34:44committed this offense i think what we're asking is can you understand why he would go and do this
35:07hello all right to me please hello sir over to me please over here yeah it's a bit confusing with
35:14all these screens isn't it yeah no no no it's fine on to if you've got a interview update okay so we're
35:21reading from he's very upset about what's happened he was in tears in interview and he said that
35:27everything was okay in relation to the situation with joshua there's been various court hearings over a
35:34period of time the one that occurred this monday basically that they're saying that no decision
35:40was made in relation to even come to the hotel that evening with them after court and was being
35:48very helpful very logical about it was putting forward ideas about how they could solve the situation
35:54there was no inkling as far as paul was concerned as to what was happening in course obviously last night
36:00samantha's account is very similar she's obviously very upset about what's happened she said that
36:08she'd spoken to steven about it on the monday after the hearing and they although he was disappointed
36:15with it he he seemed seemed pretty okay steven do you want anyone told that you're here at the
36:21police station well i'll probably need to notify my daughter she said originally she didn't have a
36:31great deal to do with her dad but their relationship only kind of really formed after her mum died in
36:36december of 2019. he meets her every single morning um at the hotel so she said he gets up early he always
36:47has done and he meets them there okay steven do you mind just give me a signature on the pad there just
36:54between the white lines just make sure you're in between the white lines it hasn't quite registered
36:59just in between the white lines steven i think it might just been under a bit underneath oh there
37:04yeah so actually in between the white lines yeah yeah there we go
37:09on the day the 29th they spent most of the day where paul works and then got a call from steven
37:21steven was due to pick up the child from school but um steven said that he couldn't do it for
37:29whatever reason he said he was busy she said that she had no contact with her dad that evening so
37:47that's their last contact they have with him and that's about 2 45 in the afternoon
37:52and she says he kind of sort of sort of races away
37:59she's really shocked i mean as far as she's concerned they've put things in place whatever
38:03the eventuality was going to be whether they got custody whether they didn't get custody
38:09um she's got no reason to lie i don't think
38:15do you want some socks
38:19did they not give you any socks in westmats yeah
38:21we'll give you some socks it's not problem we're nice and came this year yeah well actually i mean
38:28i i mean having never been at the police station i thought they actually did quite nice
38:37so i've had a chat with cbs they're engaged so um obviously we've got interview of steven
38:44um tonight um if you were about account maybe obviously if he if he does talk an interview it
38:51may be a case of actually with no cps
38:58hi steven come and take a seat in the in the corner there i'm going to make the presumption you've not
39:05been in a police station or interviewed by the police before no you know that's what i thought
39:10i've not sat across the table from somebody who's just shot two people in the head before
39:21a retired professional who's never been in trouble with the police that's not who you expect to sit
39:28across from when you're asking them about executing two people on their doorsteps
39:32do you understand what offense you've been arrested for today um can i stop you now remind
39:44you of your right to silence no comment so you understand you've been arrested for an offense of
39:51murder okay are you saying no comment because you are responsible for the murder and you have no
39:59explanation to give no comment are there any questions that i could ask that you would answer
40:08at the moment i don't know what questions you would be asking i could only respond to that based on the
40:14question that you put to me tell me about your relationship with samantha no comment is she your
40:23daughter no comment are these murders related to samantha and paul no comment
40:34the thought process is this is started from
40:38the family court hearing is this what's led to joshua and gary being shot
40:44is that accurate uh no comment is this a a plan to clear the way so that samantha can move really
40:56to america no comment
41:03the grandchildren they've been taken into what we call protective custody and that's mainly because there's
41:09nobody to look after them yes all i would say to respond to that is you know you you don't need to
41:19account for that no comment
41:25not only are you here on suspicion of committing two violent murders
41:39but your daughter and your son-in-law are also in custody under investigation for conspiring
41:49because we don't know what's gone on right it's all if your daughter and son-in-law have nothing to do
41:56with it we don't want to keep them here any longer than is necessary
42:01so i can only plead to you to talk to us
42:09yeah i mean
42:12my only concern is what you've said there
42:16i'll stop you there they have had their own interviews to give their own accounts
42:20and stephen i appreciate that you've been given legal advice not to answer any of our questions
42:29but it is just that it's advice and it is for you to choose whether to take it or not
42:35ultimately this is your opportunity to explain what happened and why
42:40yeah um there's a new englishman set nothing i call it yeah
42:47okay okay all right in that case i propose that we look at concluding the interview
42:55okay so the time by my watch is now 29 minutes past midnight and i'm concluding the interview
43:01right he's not going to talk he's been given his legal advice i'm not going to push it let him think
43:14that that is the end and that was his opportunity to talk and he's missed it
43:19hey you're right you're out of interview you're out of interview hi that was not as long as i was
43:28expecting that's because sister tom said no comment yeah we'll just hang around just in case
43:32he's back into my talk towards you because i think he wants to he wants to he really wants to
43:40your daughter speak for her for god's sake
43:46what a shame
43:49when stephen set out with his plan did he really truly think through the impact it'd have on his
43:59family
44:01towels and clothing underwear socks brush they're like the ones you get at the airport
44:12right i will shut off this block to everybody else
44:19so
44:25you brought two trousers we just need a cop
44:28is that stand out there
44:30three bottoms no we've got two bottoms we just need a cop
44:33no worries
44:34all right this is your back
44:38all right all right what's that
44:41uh
44:42why here's mental healing video as well
44:50yeah
45:03there are hundreds of family court battles going on
45:07every day of the week and they don't end in a double shooting
45:10it's a totally needless event joshua and gary didn't need to die
45:26i'm moving away from considering that this was a conspiracy to murder and towards alderton
45:31acting alone the gentleman you're about to read the new mate it's got weirder and weirder as the day's gone
45:37he wants to talk
45:50you
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45:55yeah
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