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Snapped: Behind Bars - Season 3 Episode 5 -
Cameo Clines
Cameo Clines
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00:00...snapped killer couples told the story of Antoinette Martinez and Cameo Clines,
00:06whose toxic romance led to a string of violent crimes.
00:12They were both young Hispanic males.
00:14They were found within three miles of each other.
00:16They were shot both execution style.
00:19What is it that y'all had planned for you and Cameo at that time?
00:23I'm like, welcome. I'm a young lady.
00:25We look at young women and we automatically assume or think that it was going to be a man that led them astray.
00:34And in this case, she is the one that set up both of the young men.
00:39Now serving two consecutive life sentences in the Texas Department of Corrections,
00:44Cameo Clines, Antoinette's partner in crime, speaks out for the first time, hopeful for a chance at redemption.
00:52I feel like meeting Antoinette just sparked up all the wrong stuff that I had left alone.
01:02I think I was under her spell and she knew that.
01:05She had heard of this, you know, couple Bonnie and Clyde and she found her Clyde in Cameo.
01:12Eventually, the parole board is going to give that opportunity to Cameo to ask for redemption in the hopes that he might be released.
01:21Personally, I don't believe that he should be released.
01:24I'm sorry. Ain't nothing I do or say can ever aid the wounds that I inflicted on him.
01:32But I will say that to please forgive me, you know, forgiveness is forgiveness is freedom.
01:37My name is Cameo Clines and I agree for this interview because I don't agree with people thinking that one mistake should define your whole life.
02:05Whether I was being naive at the time or not, you know, I take responsibility for my involvement in it.
02:13But I feel like Antoinette took advantage of me.
02:16I wouldn't call it love.
02:17I felt like I was baited in.
02:20She unconsciously baited me in and that's how I got glued to her.
02:23I didn't think she could ever do something bad or wrap my mind around that.
02:29But now I can see it's very possible.
02:35June 18th, 2014.
02:39At 6.30 a.m., a rancher in Bexar County, Texas, is checking on his livestock after he and his wife had noticed some suspicious activity on their land the night prior.
02:50That morning, the rancher and his wife were awoken by some loud noises.
02:58They believed it may have been gunshots.
03:00They weren't sure.
03:01But the gentleman did go out and he discovered the body of a young man deceased by one of the fence lines of his property.
03:08When the sheriff's department made the scene, they did observe a young man with multiple gunshots to his body, one in the torso and one in the neck area.
03:20They are also able to determine that this person was bound by some brown packing tape.
03:30And they started looking for shell casings and other items of evidence, which they did find some located not far from the body.
03:40They discovered some carpet that appeared to come from inside of a trunk.
03:46They also discovered other things that would normally be kept in a trunk, such as a car jack.
03:56Based on the evidence, detectives theorized that the victim had been transported to the location in the trunk of a vehicle before trying to flee his captor.
04:07At the time they were not able to identify the victim, there wasn't any identification found on or near the body.
04:15About a day after the body was found, they were able to then work with the medical examiner's office to ID the body using fingerprints.
04:26He was a young man by the name of Xavier Cordero.
04:28Police notify Xavier's family of the devastating news.
04:38We give them time, you know, to process the whole situation.
04:42And then our next step after that is to try to get as much information from them that's going to assist us in trying to locate who was responsible for the death of their son.
04:51We do ask them if there's anything that's missing, either cell phones or vehicles, anything, you know, that that their son might have had that we are not aware of.
05:01Mr. Cordero had a black Mitsubishi Lancer, which was a little bit of his pride and joy.
05:09He really loved his car.
05:11But his vehicle is no longer at his home and the family doesn't know where it is.
05:18Our first step was to put a BOLO out for any law enforcement agency, if they locate that vehicle, to contact me.
05:30Xavier's mom had access to his cell phone plan, and so she was able to give a printout of who he was speaking to.
05:39His mother prints out a phone log for them, and they find that his last phone activity was about 2.20 in the morning on June 18th.
05:47I just called the number of female answers.
05:50I asked her for her name.
05:52At that time, she does identify herself as Antoinette Martinez, a young San Antonio woman.
05:59They asked her to come down for an interview, which she did do.
06:03When investigators are talking to Antoinette, she does give a little bit of a history of her friendship with Xavier.
06:13She does say that they had a sexual relationship, but she hadn't seen him in about three months.
06:19She does indicate that that relationship was fairly short-lived and ended when she started a relationship with a young man, Cameo Clines.
06:28Detectives inform Antoinette that Xavier has been killed.
06:36She does appear to be very shocked and sad that something happened to Xavier.
06:42She does talk about Xavier did reach out to her the night prior, according to her, and they were supposed to see each other, but he never showed up to her apartment.
06:53She said she has no idea what could have happened to him after they got off of the phone.
07:02Investigators asked her if she had anything to do with the offense, and she said no.
07:07At this point, she is still a witness that needs to be talked to if there is any additional evidence that kind of comes up, because she is one of the last people to talk to Xavier, but she isn't arrested.
07:21She is allowed to leave while they still continue to conduct their investigation.
07:25At the time, Antoinette called, and she told me the police had contacted her.
07:35She was telling me that they were questioning her.
07:37I started feeling scared and worried because I was driving Xavier's car, and she told me to ditch the car.
07:44So I go, ditch the car, and she tells me what it did to that, and after that, she comes and picks me up in a family member's car, and we went to her apartment.
07:57At this point, Xavier's vehicle had been missing for a few days, and that alert had been made into the system, and a police officer doing a standard patrol did come upon a vehicle that was abandoned, and when he ran the plate, it did come back to Xavier Cordero as being the owner of the vehicle.
08:21We started processing the vehicle, doing fingerprints and taking photos, processing it to see if we get any possible detection of any blood.
08:35In this case, we did.
08:37Towards the trunk area of the vehicle, we did get some reaction for blood that was recovered and eventually sent to the medical examiner's office for testing.
08:45They were also able to determine that the trunk liner of the vehicle was no longer in it.
08:51When you think about the original scene and there being a trunk liner found, you're able to then kind of look back and connect that to the vehicle.
09:04Ten days pass without any other leads.
09:08Then, on June 30th, investigators get word of another gruesome discovery.
09:14While police are still investigating the murder of Xavier Cordero, another body is found out in a cornfield in South Bear County.
09:25This person is shot in the head with a small caliber handgun.
09:29When I arrived to the scene, I noticed that he was moderately decomposed.
09:35There was no identifying kind of features to his face or anything like that.
09:40At the same time I'm at the crime scene, I'm getting information from SAPD that they had been working a missing person case by the name of Stephen Rendon.
09:50So, as they are giving me a description of what he was last seen alive in, I'm actually looking at his body at the crime scene and it's matching up to what he was last seen wearing.
10:01At that point, we knew we had a tentative identification on Stephen Rendon.
10:06They are also able to determine that this person was bound by some brown packing tape, which was also something discovered at the Xavier Cordero body dump site.
10:24Investigators realize it's not the only similarity between the two murders.
10:30They were both young Hispanic males.
10:32They were found within three miles of each other, dumped in a rural, kind of a remote area in Bear County.
10:40Ballistics evidence later indicated that the bullets that were found both in Xavier's body and in Stephen's body were from the .25 caliber firearm, which is not a common gun.
10:54Everything's similar.
10:56And we're over here like, oh my God, you know, we might have some kind of serial killer here.
11:02Were you worried at all?
11:05Police were on to you?
11:06You always have the fear of getting caught.
11:08But at that time, I was more involved of how I felt towards Antoinette and not felt of what I was involved with.
11:17How did Antoinette seem?
11:19Did she seem worried?
11:20She stayed more close to me for the sake of security or just the sake of if I get caught, we get caught.
11:28Coming up, as police race to find a connection between the two victims, the clues lead them to uncover a toxic romance.
11:41She was wild in a good way, but I was naive at that time.
11:46The relationship that they had together was a perfect storm.
11:50In June 2014, detectives in rural Bexar County, Texas, are investigating two brutal homicides that appear to be connected.
12:13We're talking about bodies that are found in very close proximity time-wise.
12:17They are both found in a remote area.
12:21We're looking at two young men who have been shot.
12:24Authorities discover that 19-year-old Stephen Rendon had been reported missing by his mother four days earlier.
12:33Now that we have a potential ID of Stephen Rendon, police do go out and speak with his mother.
12:39Two gentlemen from the Bexar County Sheriff came in.
12:42I thought maybe they were going to be there to kind of talk to me, you know, ask me more questions or anything like that.
12:48And he kind of just said they had found a body out in the field and everything kind of just went blank.
12:56Detectives learn that Stephen had recently graduated high school and was living at home in order to save money for a place of his own.
13:09He was a very easygoing person, very loving, you know, he just, he had a very big heart.
13:19I would always tell Stephen and Stephen knew that.
13:21I said, I don't know what I did in my life to deserve someone like you.
13:27I said, God gave me a beautiful gift.
13:31Stephen was a giant goofball.
13:33He always had a smile on his face.
13:35He was, we were in band together.
13:37We both were playing percussion.
13:39He was definitely talented.
13:41He looked like making music.
13:43He was a comedian.
13:45And he was just an all-around good guy.
13:50After high school, Stephen attended a vocational institute to pursue mechanics.
13:57But just one year into his training, he suddenly vanished.
14:01When he went missing, I mean, that's when, like, the alarm bells started going off.
14:10Because that's not in his character to disappear like that.
14:14Investigators need to figure out what happened on the last time his mom saw him.
14:20At this point, she is able to let them know that the evening that he left, he said he was going to go meet up with some friends.
14:31About 1.30, 2 o'clock in the morning, I remember hearing his phone ring, like when someone's sending you a text message.
14:41And maybe about a couple of minutes later, that's when he went to my door.
14:45And he goes, Mom, he goes, can I go to my friend's house?
14:49He forgot his backpack.
14:50And I was like, no, I said, it's too late already.
14:55I said, can you just wait until the morning?
14:58And he kind of just gave me the look, like, you know, like, come on, Mom, you know, can I just go?
15:03And I said, I was like, look, I go, just go, do what you, you know, just drop off the backpack and come back home.
15:11I go, because it's late.
15:12And he goes, okay, he goes, I'll be back, you know, and he left.
15:18Later on, I ended up getting a text from him.
15:22And it said, you know, Mom, I'm going to be out a little later.
15:26Then I thought, he was going to turn off my phone.
15:29I love you.
15:36The next morning when I woke up, I looked out the window because I, you know, remembered I didn't hear him come home.
15:42So when I woke up, I looked out the window, and I noticed that his car still wasn't home.
15:46So I started calling him, you know, the phone would just ring, you know, don't answer.
15:50When investigators ask Kathy for a description of Stephen's car, they're surprised by her response.
16:02He was driving a orange Mitsubishi Lancer.
16:06Both of our victims actually drove the same type of vehicle.
16:10In Stephen's case, he drove a orange Mitsubishi Lancer.
16:15And we have Xavier Cordero driving a black one.
16:18After speaking with Stephen's mother, Bexar County investigators put out a bolo for his missing vehicle.
16:26That same day, they received pivotal news about an armed robbery from San Antonio police.
16:38There was an aggravated robbery case that happened within the city limits.
16:42Her store clerk was shot in the face.
16:44The clerk, thankfully, is just grazed by the bullet, but the bullet and the shell casing are recovered there.
16:52It was a .25 caliber firearm, which is the same type of firearm used in both of the murders.
16:59A witness at the store had followed the assailant across the street and directed police to his location at an apartment.
17:07Police SWAT showed up and eventually set up an area around the apartment.
17:15After the store got robbed, I was in Antoinette's apartment.
17:19What, like, led you then to go rob the convenience store?
17:24Antoinette didn't have no more money.
17:25I said, well, what do you want to do?
17:27And, uh, came up with that idea.
17:29I was looking out the blinds.
17:34Next thing I know, I see a couple of cop cars go to the back.
17:38And the chief police had told me, you got to come out or we're going to go in there and get you.
17:42So I was like, all right, I'm going to come out.
17:44Right before I come out, actually, Antoinette's behind the door.
17:48And right before I step out the door, she says, Cameo, I love you.
17:51And I look at her and I just walk out.
17:54That was the first time she said that.
17:57I felt like it was insurance, though, because we were about to get locked up.
18:13In June of 2014, San Antonio police have taken Cameo Clines into custody
18:20as the suspect in an aggravated robbery of a convenience store.
18:25Cameo's girlfriend, Antoinette Martinez, is also taken into custody for questioning.
18:32The aggravated robbery happened within city limits.
18:35So at that point, it was the San Antonio Police Department robbery unit
18:39that is starting that investigation.
18:42They had obtained a search warrant.
18:44And when they are going through Antoinette's apartment,
18:47they start finding things that are connected to these other two homicides.
18:53They found driver's license in the toilet bowl tank.
18:58One was Xavier Cordero, and the other one was Stephen Rendon.
19:06And there was an orange Mitsubishi Lancer parked right in front of the apartment complex.
19:13Stephen's car was right there, you know, at that apartment.
19:17When Bexar County investigators arrive, they recover a .25-caliber handgun,
19:23the same type of weapon used in the convenience store robbery and in the murders.
19:30We also found some brown packaging tape.
19:33I knew immediately that that was a close resemblance of the packaging tape
19:39that I saw at the crime scene of Stephen Rendon and also Xavier Cordero.
19:44Authorities immediately book Cameo Clines and Antoinette Martinez on suspicion of murder.
19:55Cameo is taken to the Bexar County Jail, where he is also arraigned on robbery charges,
20:00while Antoinette is transferred to the sheriff's office for questioning.
20:04Antoinette starts off just sort of talking.
20:09You get this girl that you think she's going to be a sweet, innocent girl,
20:15perhaps just a witness who got involved with a young man who made some bad choices,
20:21and she kind of went along for the ride.
20:24She was my role model.
20:29Growing up, she was super cool.
20:31She was easygoing.
20:33But I also felt bad for Antoinette, because she did go through some hardships.
20:37Her mom passed away.
20:39I mean, it was traumatic.
20:40I know her dad went through some stuff.
20:42At the age of 12, Antoinette went to live with an aunt.
20:46But despite a difficult childhood, she appeared to thrive in her teens.
20:53She was really smart, and I know she did have good grades.
20:58Antoinette was a young woman who had a lot of promise in her life.
21:03She had finished high school, had moved out of her home, so she was on her own.
21:10Antoinette supported herself by getting a job at a fast food restaurant,
21:15which is where she met Cameo Clines in the spring of 2014.
21:2220-year-old Cameo Clines was born and raised in San Antonio, Texas.
21:29I grew up in a household of one older sister, two older brothers.
21:34My household had split apart when I was around 13.
21:37My mom and father had a divorce.
21:40Everybody went their own separate ways, and I got stuck out on the streets.
21:45The house became more of an in-and-out stop for me.
21:49I didn't feel loved.
21:51Ain't nobody goes searching for me.
21:52Ain't nobody was worried about where Cameo was.
21:56I fell into drugs and whatnot.
21:58I was in juvenile detention centers for quite a few years.
22:03I looked for love in the wrong places, you know.
22:06Then I always gravitated to women that liked to party.
22:10But that was a point in my life I had got me a good woman to be with and really wanted to start a family.
22:17At 20 years old, Cameo got a job at a fast food restaurant where he met 19-year-old Antoinette Martinez.
22:29She was wild in a good way.
22:32She was very blunt.
22:34She'll speak what's on her mind.
22:36And I see that same quality in me.
22:40We were similar that way.
22:42I didn't do heavy drugs.
22:44But I did smoke marijuana.
22:46And that's one thing I seen that she did on break and before she leaves and whatnot.
22:51And I think that's what got us to associate more.
22:57And as time went by, you know, I started having feelings for her.
23:01They then entered into more of an intimate relationship.
23:04It sounds like those two were almost like flames that connected each other, where they were able to really see the good in each other when others may have told them that there was no good.
23:23There was some form of connection through the lens of trauma.
23:27I feel like meeting Antoinette just sparked up all the wrong stuff that I had left alone, you know, and I didn't even know that it was being awakened.
23:45When investigators confront Antoinette about the murder of her former fling, Xavier Cordero, she continues to claim ignorance.
23:54What do you know about what happened to Xavier?
23:59He never showed up to my parents.
24:02When investigators present Antoinette with the mounting physical evidence found at her apartment, she begins to break.
24:10What is it that y'all had planned you and Camille at that time?
24:14I'm like, log in.
24:16This is all for rent money.
24:17Rent money?
24:19She had told me she had lost the rent money.
24:21She didn't know who took it, and we were searching for it, and she never found it.
24:26It was possible she was going to lose her apartment, and that's where she needed money.
24:32Cameo and Antoinette developed a plan to lure people over to their apartment and rob them at gunpoint.
24:39I thought we were just going to drop a monster, but I didn't have them walk back home or something.
24:46She's trying to put the responsibility on Cameo.
24:51She wanted us to believe that she didn't ever know that anybody was going to be killed.
24:58She wanted herself to sound like she was less responsible in the involvement.
25:04It was a mutual agreement, but it was not my plan.
25:07In Bexar County, Texas, investigators are questioning Antoinette Martinez about the murder of her former lover, Xavier Cordero.
25:28She claims that she and her new boyfriend, Cameo Clines, came up with a plan to get some easy cash.
25:38The first person that gets lured over is Xavier Cordero.
25:43Antoinette does comment that she knew that he generally had cash on him, and, of course, that's something that they're looking for.
25:52She also knew that he had a car, which is the other thing that they were looking for.
25:56So, once she gets him over to the apartment, we have Cameo, who's hiding, and she is trying to get Xavier comfortable.
26:07She kind of makes all of these admissions all at the same time.
26:32She doesn't appear to be remorseful.
26:37They tied him up.
26:38They walked him to his vehicle, which was parked outside.
26:41They had him get in the trunk of that car, and they drove him up to a rural field.
26:50Antoinette claims she stayed in the car while Cameo dragged Xavier out of the trunk.
26:56She says the plan had only been to rob Xavier, so she expected Cameo to let him go after taking his wallet.
27:05But she was surprised by what she heard next.
27:08I think he was stuck with me, and he went back to go make sure he shot him.
27:19He did.
27:20The wallet itself, did you get any money from the wallet?
27:25I don't know.
27:26It always did he have money, so how much money did he have?
27:30I know it's the one that went 25, and that's the two things.
27:33Antoinette admits that she and Cameo continued driving Xavier's car for the next 24 hours until authorities brought her in for questioning the first time.
27:58I think the fact that once Antoinette had, you know, talked to police and she was allowed to leave, she didn't get that feeling that she was, like, going to be a suspect.
28:11Which then, I think, also kind of gave her that feeling of power that she was going to be able to get away with this.
28:19And while that investigation was going on, Antoinette and Cameo were continuing to plan additional crimes.
28:28June 25th, the same type of event took place.
28:32This time it involved a stranger, and that stranger was Stephen Rendon.
28:37Her whole plan was to rob him.
29:06Of course, Stephen Rendon doesn't know that.
29:08He's coming over for a possible sexual encounter with Antoinette Martinez.
29:13She tells me that as soon as he walks into the door, she tells him that, hey, this is a kind of a kinky thing.
29:22Let me tie you up with this tape.
29:24He agrees with it, he goes along with it, and Antoinette Martinez then goes and uses that brown packaging tape and tapes his arms, his hands, and his legs.
29:37That's when Cameo comes out, and then he starts holding the gun to Stephen Rendon's head.
29:47They were able to walk Stephen Rendon down the stairs and actually get him into the car and drive him out into the area where he was shot and killed.
29:57As soon as Stephen Rendon walks into the field, that's when Cameo Clines pulled the trigger.
30:09Mr. Rendon, when he was robbed, didn't have a lot of cash on him.
30:13So Cameo decided to commit a separate aggravated robbery.
30:17Down the hall, investigators bring Cameo Clines into another interrogation room.
30:27Mr. Clines was denying everything.
30:29He's basically saying that he wasn't involved in anything in regards to a homicide.
30:34We talked to Antoinette Martinez, and she agreed to try to convince Cameo Clines to confess.
30:42She wants to be alone with him, so if we can step out for a minute.
30:47All right, I'm probably just going to get you under the bus.
30:51You're going to get me under the bus?
30:53Huh?
30:53No, it's not as cool.
30:56I don't know how you're going to get me under the bus.
30:58Be honest with you.
31:00Don't get me under the bus.
31:03Go over it.
31:05Okay?
31:06Her saying that, it really opened my eyes.
31:10Antoinette was not the person I thought she was.
31:14We stopped that interview.
31:16I escorted Antoinette Martinez out.
31:23As I'm coming back into the room, thinking that I was going to interview Cameo again about, you know, what was going on, I noticed that he was crying on the floor.
31:33At this time, when I was in an interview room, the weight of what happened was fully on me.
31:40I was thinking about everything that had just happened the weeks before, a month before, whatnot, and I couldn't bear it anymore, you know.
31:49I felt a lot of remorse, you know, and it's just like everything was playing in my mind.
31:55And when you go through situations and people ask you questions, you know, about it, you've got to tell them the truth.
32:03On June 30th, 2014, investigators are questioning Cameo Clines about his role in the murders of Xavier Cordero and Stephen Rendon.
32:26After Cameo's girlfriend, Antoinette Martinez, claimed he shot and killed both men.
32:32I only knew Antoinette a couple of months before this happened.
32:36I was naive at that time, and, you know, I went along with things because I just wanted to satisfy her.
32:43For what reason did y'all do this to Xavier?
32:47It's going to be that he personally did.
32:50So she persuaded you to do this?
32:52Yes, sir. She didn't like how he treated her.
32:56I didn't know Xavier, Antoinette didn't.
32:58She had opened up to me and said that they had a relationship and that they used to love each other and that he broke her heart and this and that.
33:06So who was the one that shoots him?
33:09He didn't.
33:10Both of y'all shoot him?
33:14Mm-hmm.
33:17I felt like that after what happened to Xavier, that she felt emboldened since she didn't get caught.
33:24Tell me why, Stephen.
33:27I'm trying to make money.
33:28Okay.
33:29Easy, Victor.
33:31She wanted money for rent.
33:33I was just really satisfying her needs, number one, to keep that sense of her wanting my presence.
33:46That's kind of a theme that just sort of recurs through all of this.
33:50It's Antoinette needs money, Antoinette needs a car.
33:53And so you have Cameo, who is trying to help her.
33:59They could have done that by getting second jobs, but that's not the route that they took.
34:04They decided to go for easy money.
34:06I believe that they were on like this ride of trying to get money and driving with no brakes on.
34:20I think that she had heard of this couple, Bonnie and Clyde, she knew what they were about, and she aspired to be them.
34:32Bonnie and Clyde went on a roll of murders, I believe.
34:44And I would never say that about us because I would never want to be remembered as that, because that wasn't me.
34:53I believe that the relationship that they had together was a perfect storm, meaning that he was psychologically immature.
35:06Following his confession, Bexar County authorities charged both Cameo Clines and Antoinette Martinez with two counts of capital murder.
35:26It was hard for the judge to say that you're charged a capital murder.
35:35Yes, it was very heavy.
35:37Authorities continue to build their case against the couple.
35:41It was determined that that same .25 caliber firearm used in the robbery was also used to kill both Xavier Cordero and Steven Rendon.
35:49With a mountain of evidence against the couple, attorneys for Cameo Clines approached the prosecution about a plea bargain.
36:02And on January 12, 2016, Cameo pleads guilty to two counts of murder.
36:09Mr. Clines pled to two concurrent life sentences for murder, and then stacked on top of that was the 20 years for the aggravated assault against the storekeeper.
36:24I chose to take a plea deal because I wanted everything to be over with already, and, you know, I was not, how could you fight the truth?
36:35I felt just, I felt so guilty and bad about everything that I knew I deserved the prison sentence.
36:44I knew I deserved to be away from my involvement.
36:48Antoinette, however, decides to take her case to trial.
36:51In 2017, more than a year after Cameo pled guilty to murder, Antoinette pleads not guilty.
37:01On September 12, her case goes to trial.
37:06She argued that this was duress and coercion from Cameo.
37:11Cameo came down and testified for her.
37:14And in that testimony, he basically said that he was the mastermind, that he was the reason.
37:20When you really kind of look at why these offenses happen, you see that it's not really Cameo as the reason, it's Antoinette.
37:32But as a prosecutor and a trial attorney, you realize that sometimes you can have the world's best case and you lose.
37:39In September 2017, Cameo Clines testifies on behalf of Antoinette Martinez,
38:00claiming that he was the mastermind behind the murders of Xavier Cordero and Stephen Rendon.
38:06A lot of times we look at young women and we automatically assume or think that it was going to be a man that led them astray.
38:22And in this case, Antoinette was the one that set up both of the young men.
38:27She's the one that got them to come to her apartment.
38:33In the end, the jury sides with the prosecution.
38:37Antoinette was found guilty of capital murder.
38:40The only time that we saw Antoinette Martinez show any emotion is after she was found guilty.
38:49And there were definitely tears for herself.
38:53She was sentenced to life without the possibility of parole.
38:57So unless laws change in the future, she will die in prison.
39:02Now, nine years into his own prison sentence, Cameo Clines says that Antoinette manipulated him to take the fall.
39:15I was still naive and I was still trying to protect her.
39:17When there are couples, a male will oftentimes try to do the noble, although it's a displaced nobility,
39:28to take the rap for the female that they feel that they have to protect.
39:34I think I was under her spell.
39:36And she knew that if I could speak to Antoinette, I would say,
39:40with all grace, I forgive you because I want to be forgiven.
39:43In my communication with Antoinette, it was a lot of not wanting to look at the crime, own the crime,
40:03which I found it hard to process myself because you've been in these number of years already.
40:10So how do you not take ownership of that?
40:14But Cameo has expressed a very deep remorse.
40:20He's tried every day to work toward becoming a better person.
40:25I'm sorry, you know, and ain't nothing I do or say can ever aid the wounds that I inflicted on him and my involvement.
40:41But I will say that to please forgive me, you know, forgiveness is forgiveness is freedom.
40:47I'd always be ashamed of what I was involved with, always, until my last breath.
40:57But one thing I keep in the forefront of my mind is just to be a good person and a better person than I was back then.
41:04Our system is set up in a way that there are certain people that can ask for forgiveness and seek some sort of redemption.
41:15And eventually the parole board is going to give that opportunity to Cameo to ask for redemption in the hopes that he might be released.
41:23Personally, I wouldn't say that he's remorseful, except for maybe feeling sorry for himself.
41:31So I don't believe that he should be released.
41:33And I really hope that the families attend parole hearings and let them know how they are still affected every day by what he and Antoinette did.
41:48I think it's a waste of resources to keep them alive.
41:52You know what's right and you know what is wrong.
41:56They've done bad things, but they are not bad people.
42:01That's just how I feel.
42:04Cameo was a broken ship, but I believe in rebuilding broken ships so they can sail again.
42:11I have a hope of being outside these walls one day and helping the youth not go down the same path that I went down when I was younger.
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