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00:003-3, go ahead.
00:09They are now on our shoulder on the northbound, but the collision itself took place in lane 3 at the southbound, however.
00:18So they were trying to get back across the carriageway and they'd been struck, is that right?
00:22Well, they were walking up and trying to size them away, it is on CCTV, recording us.
00:27Yeah, I see.
00:30And in League 2, it's crunch time in the playoff semi-finals.
00:35Stockport County hosts Wicket Wanderers in the second leg later today.
00:41I had driven down to Birmingham to collect my daughter from university.
00:46We were on our way north to come home when the incident happened.
00:54I was travelling up to the game with my dad and my best friend and one of the coaches.
00:57We can see all the traffic building up in front of us.
01:01This didn't feel like an insignificant situation.
01:04We saw a traffic officer's vehicle parked on the left.
01:10We could never have imagined what was about to happen.
01:15The red one's got knocked down by the red car over there.
01:20I've got an ambulance en route for her.
01:22She seems all right, but I'm not a doctor.
01:25She has been knocked down.
01:26Is she the one that speaks English or the other one?
01:28Yes.
01:28The other one, she's going to run it.
01:30Oh, no!
01:31Shit!
01:34Oh, Jesus!
01:36Mike Alpha, Mike Alpha, we need ambulance.
01:39Senior officers to the scene.
01:40We've got two possible faithfuls.
01:42All right, Susan.
01:43Two, eight, seven, thank you.
01:45Three, two, we do good.
01:46I'll see you on the left.
01:46Stay where you are, my love.
01:48Stay where you are.
01:49Stay where you are.
01:52Stay there.
01:53Stay there.
01:54Stay there.
01:55Stay there.
01:55What started as a horrific suicide attempt
02:01of the twin sisters on the M6
02:04then led to the brutal stabbing of an innocent man
02:10a few days later.
02:13It was truly shocking.
02:1817 years on,
02:20we don't know exactly what motivated them on that day.
02:25What on earth
02:26had caused this
02:28to transpire?
02:51Sierra, Papa, two, one.
02:53Go ahead.
02:53Cat one.
02:55Immediate response required.
02:57Report of a stabbing.
02:58Male victim.
02:59Mid-fisties.
03:00Bleeding heavily.
03:02Suspect last seen heading westbound on foot.
03:04Described as female, white, late 30s, green jacket.
03:08Ambulance en route.
03:09Over.
03:10Sierra control received.
03:12En route.
03:13ETA five minutes.
03:14Over.
03:15Over.
03:15It was in the back alley at the back of Duke Street.
03:24They'd actually put up the blue police tape as a cordon.
03:29As I approached the scene,
03:31one of the police officers waved me down
03:34and advised me to stop.
03:36I was told that life was extinct.
03:38It was very chilling, shocking,
03:41the whole sequence of events leading up to this, really.
03:52Sabina and Ersela were born in Sweden,
03:54in Varmland County,
03:58near the border of Norway.
04:00We know that Sabina Ericsson
04:03was living in Cork, in Ireland,
04:05with her partner and their two sons.
04:10Ersela was living in America.
04:19Ersela arrives from the United States
04:23in a surprise visit to see Sabina.
04:27At around two in the morning,
04:29without saying goodbye to Sabina's partner or children,
04:31the twins left Sabina's family home and travelled north.
04:35They boarded a ferry from Dublin to Liverpool.
04:49From Liverpool, they then boarded a coach
04:52which was en route to London via the M6 South.
05:00We don't know what motivated that.
05:03The twins were holding their bags quite close to them
05:09and acting strangely on the bus.
05:12The driver was alarmed by their behaviour.
05:18About an hour into the journey,
05:20the coach stopped at Cale Services
05:23in an unscheduled break.
05:25For reasons that are unclear,
05:31the twins disembark and refuse to get on the coach.
05:34So the coach eventually continues its journey to London,
05:38leaving Sabina and Ersela behind.
05:40Once they were at Cale Services,
05:53they were seen by other members of the public
05:57acting erratically, wandering around, looking lost.
06:01The police did attend the scene,
06:06spoke to the Ericsson twins.
06:08They hadn't committed a crime,
06:10so the police left them on their way.
06:16Sabina and Ersela don't bring a taxi.
06:19Don't look for alternative transport.
06:22Instead, they start heading towards the M6 motorway on foot.
06:263-3, go ahead.
06:47The driver of the vehicle sounds bad.
06:50It's been told to remain in situ.
06:51It appears that it's two Swedish females
06:56southbound that were walking
06:58on the central reservation of the motorway.
07:01One of them appeared to have tried to cross the motorway
07:04and then been hit by a vehicle.
07:06So we've got a vehicle that's been damaged on the southbound
07:08and we've got casualties on the northbound.
07:11Give me a little estimate now of...
07:14Er, we're going to be about two minutes away.
07:16I'm David Ray, and I was the person behind the camera
07:25on motorway cops.
07:28You spend a 12-hour shift
07:31sat in the back of a police car.
07:35Mostly, it's actually quite routine,
07:39but you've got no idea what you're going to come up against.
07:43Yeah, they're out there.
07:52Hiya.
07:53Hiya.
07:56Right.
07:57What we've got is they were in the central res.
08:00Why?
08:01Do we know?
08:01Exactly.
08:02Are they speaking English?
08:03Speak one speaks English, are you?
08:05The one in the res.
08:07Yeah.
08:07We had a block coming up.
08:09Right.
08:09Because we knew they were on camera.
08:11A full closure?
08:12It's on camera.
08:13Full closure northbound.
08:14Yeah.
08:15They were trying to cross the Bravo.
08:17So as we approached,
08:18they hadn't seen us now then,
08:20the red one's got knocked down
08:22by the red car over there.
08:24Got an ambulance en route for her.
08:26She seems all right,
08:27but I'm not a doctor.
08:29She has been knocked down.
08:30Is she the one that speaks English,
08:32or the other one?
08:32Yes.
08:33The other one.
08:33She's the one that's...
08:34Oh, no!
08:35Shit!
08:38Oh, Jesus!
08:40Mike Alpha, Mike Alpha,
08:42we need ambulance,
08:43senior officers to the scene.
08:44We've got two possible fatals.
08:49Oh, we see you, thanks.
08:51Stay there.
08:51Shh, it's okay.
08:53It's just like, um...
08:54See you're breathing.
08:55Okay.
08:57Stay there, stay there.
08:58Who's my sister?
08:59Come on, it's okay.
09:00Where's my sister?
09:02It's okay, she's being looked after
09:03by the other police.
09:04Keep your head still for me.
09:05Keep your head still.
09:07Shh.
09:08I don't know what I saw.
09:09I just saw this woman exiting frame.
09:13Oscar Tanger 33,
09:14we're going to need air arms.
09:17Why were you running, my love?
09:19Without any warning whatsoever,
09:21the first one just ran
09:22straight under the wheels of the HGV.
09:25To sort of compound in the second woman
09:28was then immediately hit by a car.
09:29The initial reaction is amazement.
09:32You can't believe that two people
09:34have just done that in front of you.
09:37For a few seconds,
09:38you don't know what to do.
09:40It's just shock.
09:42And then the adrenaline kicks in.
09:45You've got to do a job
09:46and you've got to cover this.
09:47She ran in front of me.
09:50And I avoided her with wagging him.
09:53And I clipped her with trailer life.
09:55First female has been hit by a HGV
09:58and serious injury.
09:59Second female has been hit
10:01by a small vehicle in lane one.
10:03We saw ambulances rush past us,
10:06screeching down the motorway,
10:07blue lights on.
10:09It all happened in a flash.
10:11She ran in front of the woman driving the polo,
10:19thrown up into the air
10:20and completely squashed the roof of her car.
10:25And there was nothing that that woman could have done
10:27to have avoided her.
10:29Sabina, is it?
10:35Sabina?
10:36In all my career,
10:37I've never filmed anything like this before.
10:39And either before or after.
10:42No, come on, my love.
10:43Come on, you've hit your head.
10:44Calm down.
10:45Calm down.
10:46She appears very disorientated.
10:50I didn't really know what was going on,
10:53to be honest.
10:54But we could certainly never, ever have imagined
10:57what was about to unfold.
10:59Calm down.
10:59I'm going to drop it off.
11:00I'm going to run for you.
11:01Bitch, ass.
11:02Calm down.
11:03I'm going to harm you.
11:20Oh, I recognise you.
11:22I know you're not real.
11:22Stay still for me.
11:23Stay still, because you're hurt.
11:25Come on, calm down.
11:26Fuck you.
11:26They're all something.
11:28I'm going to leave my head.
11:28What's happening in terms of ambulances?
11:30Ambulances are all on route.
11:32We've got helicopters on route.
11:33We're asking for additional patrols.
11:34Please help me!
11:36My name's Dr. Latif Hussain,
11:38and on the 17th May 2008, I got a text message on my phone advising me that there'd been an incident
11:45on the M6.
11:51When you're driving to the incident, your adrenaline is rushing and you're trying to think of all
11:57the scenarios, the only information that I'd received, the only information that I'd received was that there were some pedestrians that'd been knocked down.
12:03No, no, no, stay still.
12:04No, no, stay still.
12:05Shh, shh, shh, shh.
12:06You're hurt.
12:09Fucking asshole.
12:10Calm down.
12:10Keep it up.
12:11Calm down.
12:12I did think she was being unnecessarily aggressive.
12:18Fuck you, asshole.
12:18She's just behind you.
12:19She's just behind you.
12:20Fuck you.
12:21The police officers were there to help, and she didn't seem to recognise that.
12:25So I'm wondering what's going on in her head.
12:28Are you going to steal my fucking organs, you bitch?
12:31It's going to happen to you too.
12:32Oscar Tango 3-3.
12:33No, it's going to happen to you too.
12:36I don't know how she gets it into her head that anybody is going to steal her organs.
12:42Is she high on drugs?
12:45Is she delusional?
12:47Was this some kind of suicide pact?
12:51Tango 1-1, my car, sorry.
12:53It's a fucking fatality of you.
12:54I'm not, Anna.
12:55It's fine.
12:57I arrived on scene.
12:58I was made aware that one of the casualties had been hit by a car,
13:02but pedestrian versus a HGV is not very good,
13:06and nine times out of ten, when you look at the speed involved,
13:09you'd expect that to be a fatality, really.
13:13Calvus, Tango 3-2, three truck.
13:15And so my focus was directed towards that casualty.
13:19It's Ian.
13:19Tango 1-1, three truck.
13:21Relax, relax your arms now.
13:23Relax your arms now.
13:26Both the young females have got potentially serious injuries
13:29in view of the actual mechanism of the accident.
13:31They've ran out onto the motorway,
13:34been hit by one vehicle and clipped another vehicle.
13:37One of the young females has got quite nasty leg injuries.
13:41There was a lot of blood and damage to the skin, to the bones.
13:49But despite that, I was very surprised that she was actually conscious.
13:53Under the circumstances, I found, you know, really quite bizarre
13:56that this individual had got certainly limb-threatening,
13:59potentially life-threatening injuries,
14:00but she was very agitated, kicking, screaming, shouting.
14:04I'm going to stop that heart.
14:06I'm going to make sure the organs won't work.
14:09She was behaving bizarrely.
14:12On reflection, afterward, it was quite strange.
14:16Shh, shh, shh, shh.
14:17Just relax.
14:18Oh, I know that, my love.
14:20Yeah, my calf, I've got one unconscious casualty.
14:23Mine's very aggressive, spitting at me.
14:25She is very badly injured.
14:27I don't know what's going on.
14:28Words started to get round
14:29so that there had been pedestrians on the motorway.
14:32It was definitely anger as we approached kick-off time.
14:36We decided to have the game playing on the radio.
14:40I was focused very much on the woman
14:43who'd just been hit by the polo.
14:46We actually thought that she was dead.
14:50Where are you living at the moment?
14:52Have you got an address in the UK?
14:54She was just not moving at all.
14:58It was very difficult to see that,
15:00but that's what we thought had happened.
15:02We thought she was dead.
15:05Our plans are at the moment is
15:06we need to do some seating cries.
15:08We're going to try and get you guys out of here
15:09as quick as possible
15:10because this is going to be closed for some time now.
15:12We sat in the car for probably 10, 15 minutes.
15:18And then the next thing was she stood up.
15:22Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
15:25Stay, stay, stay.
15:27I couldn't believe it because I thought,
15:30surely she must have serious injuries.
15:34But she seemed absolutely fine.
15:38Right, don't get going anywhere, okay?
15:40Just chill, chill, okay?
15:41Try to relax, just lie down again.
15:43Don't have the right to...
15:44I was amazed that Sabina was alive
15:49because it should have been a fatal.
15:52It was just incredible.
15:55Where's Paul?
15:56Oh, shit.
15:57Where's Paul?
15:58Right, stay with me, okay?
16:00Stay with me.
16:01All right?
16:02Love.
16:02Okay?
16:03Stay.
16:03Where's Paul?
16:06Stay.
16:07Why do you kill me?
16:09Stay still.
16:10Why do you kill me?
16:11Fuckin' hell!
16:16No, no!
16:18She just punched the officer.
16:21She then ran over onto the southbound carriageway.
16:26Mike Alpha 33, get us a closure on the southbound.
16:30What on earth are you doing?
16:31Oh, my God, we're going to have another incident
16:33on the opposite carriageway.
16:35Stay!
16:36Stay there!
16:36Calm down, calm down, calm down.
16:38Calm down.
16:38And it was unclear to me
16:40whether she was actually trying to get away
16:43or whether she was making another attempt
16:48to be run over.
16:49Calm down.
16:50Yeah, he's actually on the southbound now.
16:52Calm down.
16:53Don't keep me going.
16:54Calm down.
16:56Three, three, I've got a female fight.
16:58Calm down.
16:59To me, that wasn't really human.
17:03You don't get run over by a car doing 60, 70 on the motorway
17:07and then by another car thrown into the air,
17:12falling unconscious for 10 minutes,
17:14and then go running over to try and do it again.
17:18That doesn't seem normal.
17:21Relax.
17:21Calm down.
17:25They're high on something.
17:26Calm down.
17:28I didn't really know why she was doing this.
17:32One of the police officers had subsequently suggested to me
17:35that she might be on drugs.
17:38Police, grab her.
17:39Grab her.
17:40You got her?
17:41Yeah.
17:42You got her handcuffs.
17:43Handcuffs.
17:44And so we ran over.
17:48It was quite clear that they needed help.
17:54We're going to have to get her back home.
17:55We should do it.
17:57No, not yet.
17:58We may do it in a minute.
17:59Just bear with us.
17:59Just secure her first.
18:01Mum, I'm sorry.
18:03Mum, I didn't mean to go on.
18:06Wait a minute.
18:07Wait a minute.
18:07She's been in twice.
18:08Arms.
18:09Arms.
18:09Yeah.
18:10Arms.
18:11Do you want the handcuffs to the front?
18:13Yeah, she's fine.
18:13She's been facing over the crash barrier on to the north side.
18:18Help!
18:18Help!
18:19I grabbed one of this woman's legs
18:22and a gentleman driving the furniture removal van behind me
18:27grabbed the other one.
18:28Watch it, guys.
18:29Watch it.
18:30Legs down.
18:30Legs down.
18:31And I'll pass it onto the other.
18:33She kicked him very hard in the chest
18:35and I understand that he broke a rib from that kick.
18:39Right, we'll get that.
18:40As soon as she's over, down on the deck.
18:41One, two, five.
18:42Yeah, pretty.
18:42Fuck!
18:43Get off!
18:44Off the...
18:44Get off!
18:45I think it took six of us eventually
18:47to get any form of restraint
18:48waving us around like rag dolls on our arms.
18:51Okay.
18:51Well, we get her down.
18:53Get her down.
18:53We get her handcuffed from behind.
18:54It's all this.
18:55Watch her arm.
18:57Watch her arm.
18:58Watch her arm.
18:59We're the police.
19:01We are the police.
19:02The overriding impression that I had
19:06was that she had superhuman strength.
19:10Get her as much as she can.
19:13Fuck you, guys.
19:14Fuck you.
19:16Fuck you.
19:17I just didn't know where she was getting that strength from.
19:21She had been hit by two motor vehicles, been unconscious for ten minutes, punched an officer
19:27with incredible force.
19:29It just seemed to me incredible that this woman had so much strength.
19:36She got up off the floor, tried to grab a restrainer, tried to use his car.
19:48She turned around, twatted me.
19:49I slipped.
19:50It was never a dull moment.
19:51As a pedestrian on the motorway, she commits an offence.
19:54Keep on her side because of her chest.
19:56Bring her legs off.
19:57Certainly by getting up and punching me, she's assaulted me.
20:00Both of those are offences for which she can be arrested for.
20:03Get moving.
20:04You can get gone.
20:05Come on, please.
20:09We don't want any more.
20:11Possibly about 10,000 people in about 10 to 15 miles of tailback at the moment.
20:17Obviously, we're trying to get them out as quick as possible,
20:19trying to protect the scene.
20:21I'm just doing a Wicked Wanderers fan in the backlog.
20:24I know.
20:25It's unfortunate.
20:25I don't know where they've got...
20:26No, I'm not bothered about missing them much,
20:28but I'm wondering if they ain't got crepes of lager on the bus and crap like that.
20:31If you do get them gone, really.
20:32Highways are going to hopefully treat that as pirating.
20:35These buses have got football fans who could have been drinking.
20:43Wake up!
20:44If they start spilling out onto the motorway, it could add even more chaos to a chaotic scene.
20:50As a 17-year-old back then, I do remember thinking it was that this was purely a selfish act.
20:59Obviously, there's hundreds of people, if not thousands, stuck in this traffic jam.
21:02Stop it!
21:03Why would someone take this decision to ruin everyone else's day, run in front of the traffic?
21:10The frustration and anger is definitely building at this point.
21:13We'll make a decision on air ambulance, because we'll have to land that there.
21:17Right, Martin, for the closure of a few hundred yards back, clearing these so that air one can land in the sterile.
21:23At this stage, they're not happy to put them in helicopters, unless they rapidly calm down.
21:29Yeah.
21:30Yeah.
21:31Yeah, that's right, yeah.
21:32Yeah, that's right, yeah.
21:33We can do that now, always.
21:34Tommy!
21:35Tommy!
21:36You're all right?
21:37You OK?
21:38Because that second woman is being restrained, there's nothing more to be done with her from a filming point of view.
21:46So, then I realised that I need to catch the helicopter arriving, because that's a significant moment.
22:01So, I'm Darren Lapping, a paramedic.
22:03I was working on the air ambulance, and we were called to an incident on the M6.
22:07I can quite clearly remember the traffic must have been nearly a 10-mile tailback on the motorway.
22:22But we got an idea that there was, obviously, two casualties separated by, sort of, 20 metres or so.
22:30So, one was about to be loaded into the back of the land ambulance.
22:35And then, to the girl that was shouting a little bit.
22:39And I do recall, as I approached, she did spit.
22:44Sort of, like, reddy colour.
22:47Basically, the decision was made to sedate her.
22:51At the moment, both are being treated as life-threatening injuries.
22:55The lady who was behind me was run over by a 44-ton lorry.
22:59Three rear wheels, axle wheels, have run over the top of her.
23:02So, the bones themselves, you could see.
23:05The tissue had been torn away from it.
23:07The bone itself was snapped completely in half.
23:11And you could see the underlying tissue and muscle.
23:15I've been to cases where, unfortunately, they have not survived.
23:19They've literally gone to the lorry, got onto the drive prop shaft,
23:23and literally been torn to bits.
23:26So, she was very lucky.
23:28I watched it go under.
23:29Oh, dear.
23:30The artery?
23:31Yeah.
23:32The fact that the weight of a lorry,
23:34that it hadn't crushed her internal organs, her head or anything,
23:38that it only caught her legs,
23:41was, in a way, it was almost a miracle in itself.
23:45To have the kind of aggression, combativeness,
23:49it does occur quite a lot with head injuries.
23:52So, that was my initial thought.
23:54I'm then considering why has she run onto the motorway,
23:58and has she now under the influence of alcohol,
24:01but also has she taken some form of drug?
24:03And then the final thing I'm considering is,
24:06is this potentially some sort of mental health illness?
24:09We decided she didn't have mental capacity.
24:12That was one of the reasons why we decided to sedate her.
24:16There's always a risk when you're actually giving drugs to individuals,
24:21especially if you don't know what the history or the background,
24:24or whether they have taken other drugs or substances.
24:28You have to really weigh up the benefits against a potential risk.
24:33To be honest, one of the ISU's guys said,
24:35they're on a coach, very protective of the bags,
24:37and wouldn't let the coach ride put them down below.
24:39And he says, with the way they're acting,
24:41could they be muley?
24:45Which, to be honest,
24:49not a bad consideration, is it?
24:52No, you're right.
24:53I thought they were probably on something,
24:55but if they were drug mules, it doesn't...
24:58Why did they get off the bus at Keele Services?
25:01And then why did they walk along the central reservation?
25:04It doesn't make any sense that they were drug mules,
25:07because they were going to get picked up,
25:09and then they could have got checked out.
25:17The lady with the more serious injuries
25:19was transferred to the air ambulance
25:21and was transported to the emergency department
25:23at Royal Stoke University Hospital.
25:25The other lady who was hit by the car,
25:32she was transported via land ambulance
25:34to the emergency department
25:36at Royal Stoke University Hospital.
25:40From the behaviour of this individual,
25:43there were concerns about her mental health,
25:46but nobody really could have predicted,
25:49you know, what transpired after this.
25:51My name is Paul Holinsed.
25:54In 2008,
26:09My name is Paul Hollinshed.
26:23In 2008, I was working at the Royal Infirmary in Stoke.
26:28In the A&E department, we got everything under the sun coming through.
26:33Some of the nursing staff told me that they'd had two Swedish women in the department.
26:39One got hit by a lorry, and the other one got hit by a car.
26:48Some people come in, and they are abusive.
26:53When you try and help them, they don't want it.
26:56And in particular, one was causing so much trouble.
27:02Refusing treatment, screaming, shouting.
27:04The other one had been severely hurt, and was going for an operation, and then transferred to a ward.
27:14The doctor was so fed up of her behaviour, causing Mary hell, that he said,
27:27I want her out of here.
27:28They had to ask the police to remove her.
27:31For me, as a documentary filmmaker, I still felt that I had to follow this story.
27:53I was aware that the second woman had been taken into hospital and checked, and was apparently okay.
28:03So then she was going to be taken to the police station, where she was going to be charged.
28:10Normally, if you come in, and you've got a head injury, especially if you've been knocked unconscious,
28:18and you've been knocked down by a car, you have a period where you have to be observed.
28:24And I thought there was a 72-hour time for observing people.
28:29Because you don't know what's going to evolve from that injury.
28:35So I was quite surprised when she was removed.
28:40When the woman emerged from the hospital, and got in the car, it was clear she'd been discharged from the hospital
29:06with only minor injuries, which was amazing, really, considering that she'd bounced off the windscreen of a Volkswagen Polo.
29:17Sarge, custody?
29:19Hello there, it's PC Elliott from Central Motorway Police.
29:23All right.
29:23We're bringing a lady in from an incident on the motorway earlier this afternoon.
29:29She's a Swedish national, but she speaks very good English.
29:33When you open the newspaper here, you feel just like, you don't know if you should laugh, or cry for them, or pray for them.
29:42When you open the paper, you laugh.
29:44It was strange being in the back of the car.
29:50She wasn't bothered about me filming anymore, whereas she, previously on the motorway, she was saying,
29:56why are you filming, why are you filming?
29:58And so she was different.
30:00Sabrina, no broken bones.
30:04I'm fine.
30:05I think you're going to be...
30:05Yeah, I'm sorry.
30:07You're going to be very bruised and sore.
30:11That's all right, that's all right, you know.
30:13I'm a licensed boxer, actually.
30:15Are you?
30:15Yes, I am.
30:17I'm used with that, even if it's...
30:19I'm out of shape now, really.
30:21So what are you doing over in Ireland, then?
30:25Huh?
30:25What job are you doing over in Ireland?
30:27Oh, I just found a crappy job, you know, in the start-up, you know?
30:33Yeah.
30:33She was quite chatty and friendly.
30:36Her demeanour was totally different than it had been on the motorway.
30:41And it was difficult to believe, really.
30:45Hi, police off the motorway.
30:50I just have to take this off.
30:53Okay, we'll throw that away when we get in there, yeah.
31:00When she was in the station, although she appeared to be normal,
31:04there was something a little bit odd about her.
31:07But it's not something I could put my finger on.
31:10We have to wait.
31:10We don't have something that I can put on.
31:13Not at the moment.
31:15Have a seat, because we can't do anything until we get in there.
31:21Hold you up there.
31:23Guys are difficult.
31:24You're looking at how many wrinkles are you?
31:29Yes, of course.
31:32With her, it would clearly work to be gentle with her, to, if you like, to flirt with her.
31:37How old am I?
31:37Yeah, probably my name's best age.
31:40Yeah, 45.
31:42Oh, yeah.
31:42Yeah, you got it.
31:4445.
31:4445.
31:46Same.
31:48Time for rest, please.
31:49It was 15.30 hours today.
31:52And the reason for the arrest, just the heading?
31:54Uh, assault, please.
31:57Do you suffer any mental health problems or from depression?
32:00No, sir, I don't.
32:02Have you ever tried to harm yourself?
32:04No, sir, I don't.
32:05I don't know.
32:05No, sir, I don't know you.
32:06You have a good idea, was it?
32:08No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
32:09The custody sergeant asks her if she's ever harmed herself, and she says, no, sir.
32:18It's a bit ironic, because you just have tried to harm yourself on the M6.
32:24Why are you saying that?
32:28Can you slip your shoes off for me?
32:30They are so dirty and smelly, and they found only one socks for me.
32:35No, no.
32:36Just slip it off.
32:37Try not to breathe, then.
32:38Can I just tell you to take your ink off the top, please?
32:41And your jewellery, and put it on.
32:43Do I have to take it off?
32:44Yeah, you do.
32:44Can you put it on out of here, please?
32:47Yes.
32:48No, you can't.
32:49You need to take it off and put it on there, Annie.
32:51All right.
32:52OK.
32:53It's the little things that seem to bother her, as opposed to what you would think are the big things.
32:58You're booking her in, saying she's assaulted a police officer, and all she's worried about
33:03is what she's going to wear, and how she looks.
33:07And that's surprised me from start to finish dealing with her.
33:11There's no makeup.
33:13No, no makeup.
33:15It's horrible, really.
33:17I really need my makeup.
33:19You look hard.
33:20Terribly.
33:21Terribly bad.
33:23Right.
33:24I don't think she knew anything that had gone on.
33:29She either didn't care, or couldn't remember.
33:34OK.
33:34OK.
33:35Fine.
33:36I'm all right.
33:37Second door.
33:38One of the roles that the police have to play is the safety of whoever is in custody.
33:46Their first thought is, are there any relatives that we can contact to tell them what's happened?
33:51Are you their eldest sister, or younger sister?
33:56Older sister.
33:57OK.
33:58Mona.
34:00Sabina is fine, but Ursula is quite badly injured in hospital.
34:07It would seem that they ran out into traffic on a busy motorway.
34:15Have you...
34:17Yeah.
34:18When was the last time you spoke to your sisters?
34:21Crikey.
34:23Yeah.
34:25Sabina has children.
34:28I didn't know that.
34:29Are they living in Sweden?
34:33OK.
34:34But will you be able to tell your mum, do you think?
34:38OK.
34:39All right, then.
34:39Well, thank you for your help, Mona.
34:41OK.
34:43Bye-bye.
34:43Well, yeah, it seems...
34:50Well, thankfully, she speaks excellent English.
34:53She's really had no contact other than internet for a few years.
34:58But it seems like the two sisters basically travel the world, and I don't know if there have
35:05been problems with mum, but mum hasn't spoken to them for about 12 years, apparently.
35:10So, very odd.
35:13I've just read the statements of one of the officers, and they talk about the formidable
35:19strength of them as if they are.
35:24There is something within their systems that's not right.
35:26I mean, the girl I spoke to in custody bears no resemblance to the girl described in the
35:33officer's statement.
35:39After the scene was cleared, I was actually on call for Staffordshire Police as a forensic
35:45medical examiner.
35:47OK.
35:49That's all it works, yeah.
35:50Our role is to assess prisoners that come into the custody suite to see if they're fit
35:56to be detained, and also if they're fit for interview as well.
36:01Initially, when I arrived at the custody suite, I didn't know who I was seeing, but when the
36:05individual was brought in, I realised that it was actually the lady that had been knocked
36:10down by the car.
36:12After my assessment of Sabina Erickson, I advised the police that she was fit to be detained.
36:18OK, look at the camera.
36:20But everybody got a laugh and a laugh at you.
36:23Where are you coming from?
36:24Although Sabina and Ursula's behaviour does appear to indicate that they might have been
36:29under the influence of some sort of drugs, Ursula was tested in the hospital and Sabina
36:35at the police station.
36:36There were no drugs found in their system, no drugs or drug paraphernalia found in their
36:41bags.
36:42Sabina was held in custody for two nights and was taken to court and charged with the
36:49police station.
36:49The police station was held in custody for two nights and was taken to court and charged
36:54with trespass on the motorway and assaulting a police officer and assaulting a police officer.
37:03Sabina Erickson was held in custody for two nights and was taken to court and charged
37:07with trespass on the motorway and assaulting a police officer.
37:11Sabina Erickson was convicted and sentenced to one day in custody, which she'd already served.
37:26So she was released from the magistrate's court and sent on her way.
37:35There are so many unanswered questions around this case.
37:40When they stopped at Cale Services, why would they not put their bags back in the hold of
37:47the coach?
37:49Were they being influenced by somebody else?
37:53Was somebody putting pressure on them?
37:57Also, why were they both trying to run in front of traffic on the M6?
38:02What was causing this extreme behaviour?
38:18I could never have imagined the kind of thing that Sabina would do based on her behaviour at
38:24the police station.
38:25I don't think it occurred to me at the time that she should have been detained for a long
38:42period of time.
38:43But the fact that she was capable of decking a police officer indicated that she had some
38:50kind of violence streaked her.
38:55Her actions, her behaviour demonstrated that she wasn't safe.
39:01Police have launched a murder inquiry into a 54-year-old man found stabbed to death behind
39:06his home and sentenced.
39:25The other one, she couldn't run.
39:30Oh, no!
39:31Shit!
39:32Oh, Jesus!
39:36After the incident on the M6 where they were running into oncoming traffic and causing mayhem
39:44on the motorway...
39:45No!
39:46No!
39:47No!
39:48No!
39:49Ursula was taken to hospital with a serious leg injury.
39:52No!
39:53No!
39:54No!
39:55No!
39:56No!
39:57No!
39:58No!
39:59No!
40:00No!
40:01No!
40:02No!
40:03No!
40:04No!
40:05No!
40:06No!
40:07No!
40:08No!
40:09No!
40:10No!
40:11No!
40:12No!
40:13No!
40:14No!
40:15No!
40:16No!
40:17No!
40:18No!
40:19No!
40:20No!
40:21No, actually.
40:22So she left the Magistrate's Court with her things in a clear plastic bag.
40:28She was seen wandering the streets of Fenton.
40:32Sabine is a foreign national in a country she doesn't know and she would have been confused
40:39as to where to go.
40:42It's bleak and dismal around there.
40:45There's nothing to help you.
40:48It would have been scary and frightening to be on her own
40:53without anybody to reach out to or to help her in that situation.
41:00Her sister obviously had been taken to hospital
41:03and she would have had no idea how to even reach out to her sister.
41:12Sabina made her way somehow towards Duke Street,
41:17which is near, not far from the courthouse at all.
41:20She was on that journey when she met my brother.
41:35My brother Glen and his friend Peter often went to the pub
41:40and sat in the beer garden.
41:42He had to sit there because of his dog,
41:46which he took everywhere with him.
41:48He idolised it.
41:51And I'm not sure what time they left.
41:55But on the way home is when Sabina apparently approached
42:01and said, what a lovely dog.
42:03And then spun a story about her sister being in a car crash
42:13and she was looking for somewhere to stay.
42:20So Glen decides that he can help Sabina
42:23because his brother works in an A&E.
42:25So Glen, Peter and Sabina go back to Glen's house on Duke Street.
42:29Her personality sort of opened up.
42:38She was a lot more bubbly and friendly
42:40and she seemed happy to be talking to us
42:43as we carried her stuff down to Ward's Glen's house.
42:46Two mobile phones, a laptop and duty-free cigarettes
42:50and there was this red wall cardigan.
42:55And walking down, I'm thinking,
42:56this is a little...
42:57What's going on here?
42:59Who is she?
43:00Something's not right about this woman.
43:05Glen always sided with the underdog.
43:07Sometimes he might be overzealous
43:11and get involved in situations
43:13that he would have been better to stay away from.
43:17If I'd known the story about the M6,
43:20I could have warded them.
43:24Poe and her sister run up to the road.
43:28The defense diagnosis was folia due,
43:32a French term meaning the madness of two.
43:36How can someone catch a mental illness of somebody?
43:40If I'd been working,
43:42they'd Glen ring me up and tell me
43:44he's got a Swedish woman there.
43:46I could have warned him,
43:47be very careful.
43:49She's very dangerous.
43:52Yeah, I could have warned him.
43:55I did get the chance.
43:56I did get the chance.
43:58Yeah.
43:59They did get the chance.
44:00THE END
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