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00:38The Ingram Angle is next.
00:47Good evening, everyone.
00:49I'm Laura Ingram.
00:49This is The Ingram Angle from Washington.
00:51Tonight, my angle in moments.
00:52But first, President Trump taking over Washington's most glamorous event,
00:57hosting the 48th annual Kennedy Center Honors last night.
01:00Trump was honoring legends like Sylvester Stallone, Gloria Gaynor,
01:05George Strait, Michael Crawford, members of the band KISS.
01:09And as a member of the Kennedy Center board,
01:11I had the privilege of being there to see it all up close and personal.
01:15This place is hot.
01:20And I just toured some of the construction.
01:22I love doing that.
01:23It's like resting for me.
01:25But, you know, we're doing a lot of construction in the Kennedy Center.
01:28I just toured the lounge, Cyberjet Lounge.
01:31It's gorgeous.
01:32And I'll tell you what, the Trump-Kennedy Center, I mean,
01:37Kennedy Center, I'm sorry.
01:41I'm sorry.
01:45This is terribly embarrassing.
01:47Our friend Raymond Arroyo was also there on the red carpet interviewing folks
01:52and spoke to the president just before he took the stage.
01:55We're going to have much more from Raymond's exclusive interview
01:58from the red carpet later on in the show.
02:01But we begin tonight with the latest from the robed resistance.
02:04You've got to know about this, people.
02:06So it was the Supreme Court oral arguments today.
02:08And the justices heard a case challenging, of course,
02:11President Trump's authority to fire the commissioner of the Federal Trade Commission.
02:16It seems kind of wonky, but it's important.
02:18Remember, the FTC is an independent agency.
02:21And in any sane world, the president, as the nation's chief executive,
02:25the head of the executive branch,
02:26would have the unquestioned authority to fire or hire anyone whose agency or department
02:33is under his umbrella.
02:35But one justice today was so agitated by President Trump's move
02:40and the apparent direction of the court to affirm it,
02:43she sounded more like a panelist on Morning Joe.
02:45Some matters, some areas, should be handled in this way by nonpartisan experts,
02:55that Congress is saying that expertise matters with respect to aspects of the economy
03:01and transportation and the various independent agencies that we have.
03:06So having a president come in and fire all the scientists and the doctors and the economists
03:13and the PhDs and replacing them with loyalists and people who don't know anything
03:19is actually not in the best interest of the citizens of the United States.
03:23Well, guess what, Justice?
03:25That's not your decision to make.
03:27That's a decision for the chief executive of the country.
03:31Oh, my goodness.
03:32How is that judicial analysis?
03:34Now, for years, conservatives have rightly argued that independent agencies are problematic
03:39because they risk undermining presidential powers.
03:42And if unchecked, well, they'll just end up thwarting his agenda altogether.
03:48And now the New York Times failed assist.
03:52That's the focus of tonight's angle.
03:55The hard left turn of the Democrat Party, it's well documented.
03:59In a little over a decade or so, they went from electing not once but twice Barack Obama.
04:04who deported a record three million illegals from the United States.
04:08They went from that to brazenly obstructing ICE agents.
04:12Get out of the way.
04:14You guys need to clear it now.
04:17You guys need to clear it now.
04:21Watch out.
04:23Hey, put it down.
04:27Put it down.
04:29You guys need to calm down and get out.
04:34You need to get out.
04:36You need to get out.
04:37The banner on that should be, yes, that's a congresswoman.
04:41That's a congresswoman posting that.
04:42So somewhere along the line, they decided that resisting Trump meant resisting the rule of law
04:49and flooding America with newcomers, of course.
04:52Undocumented Democrats, I like to call them that.
04:55Like people who would ensure that someone like him would never get elected president again.
05:00Can't risk that.
05:01Now, while liberal academics and the World Economic Forum, people like Klaus Schwab and George Soros,
05:09those types, had long argued that migration is a human right and that migration is indispensable
05:16for sustainable development, like for years, people like Bill Clinton, Chuck Schumer, and many others
05:22resisted that radicalism.
05:24But when the cheap labor lobby and the far left got together to push Biden through in 2020,
05:31well, they had their chance to swamp the U.S. with migrants from across the planet.
05:37People with zero connection or affinity to the United States.
05:39And they took that chance.
05:41So native-born Americans, well, be damned.
05:44Of course, the rest is history.
05:47We had a humanitarian, an economic, and a crime crisis.
05:50It was unleashed on the United States.
05:52The cost to the taxpayers is in the hundreds of billions of dollars and still counting.
05:59And the crimes committed by illegals and the refugees that Biden brought in,
06:03most recently the tragic shooting of our National Guard troops before Thanksgiving.
06:08And then over the weekend, details about another horrific attack in Charlotte on a light rail car.
06:15Now, the more we learn, the worse it all gets.
06:18This individual was deported under Trump in 2018.
06:22He re-entered the U.S. in 2021 under Biden.
06:26He was deported a second time under Biden, then re-entered as Biden got away.
06:32So this is the real legacy of the Democrats.
06:36And the policies and their willful refusal to defend America, it was treasonous.
06:42But now, to avoid any further fallout, the media are helping Democrats try to voice blame on the entire saga on the guy who can barely walk and talk now, Joe Biden.
06:55How convenient.
06:57In a lengthy piece in The New York Times, we're supposed to believe that campaign experts had warned Biden and his top aides of the coming chaos their border policy create.
07:06But they ignored those warnings.
07:09Chaos was the word Biden's advisers had used in a memo during the campaign.
07:13They offered a range of options to avert that crisis by better deterring migrants.
07:17But Biden seemed to grasp the risk.
07:19But he and his top aides failed to act on those recommendations.
07:22Look, this is silly.
07:24We didn't need experts to tell us any of this.
07:28And Biden was merely doing, or his people are pulling the strings, were merely doing what the party had decided on years earlier.
07:36Again, that the only way to beat populism and someone like Trump was to change America.
07:43So where was The New York Times when Biden was laying out this obviously dangerous agenda?
07:48We should not be locking people up.
07:51We should be making sure we change the circumstance, as we did, why they would leave in the first place.
07:57And those who come seeking asylum, we should immediately have the capacity to absorb them, keep them safe until they can be heard.
08:06Now, where was The New York Times when Biden argued that massive foreign aid and amnesty was the only way to stop them from coming?
08:14They're coming because of the circumstances in country.
08:17The way to deal with this problem, and I started to deal with it back when I was a United States senator, I mean, vice president, putting together a bipartisan plan of over $700 million to do with the root causes of why people are leaving.
08:32What did Trump do?
08:34He eliminated that funding.
08:36He didn't use it.
08:36I love, I love that, to do the root causes, 700, to do the root causes.
08:42Look, The Times didn't question any of this.
08:45The truth is today what it was in 2021.
08:48The Democrats and the media who covered for them are a clear and present danger to America because they fundamentally don't believe in the legitimacy of borders at all or the need to deport anyone here illegally.
09:01Full stop.
09:02The Biden White House, the Democrats on the Hill, the media that routinely called conservatives racist, conservatives who are sounding the alarm, they're all responsible.
09:14It's a conspiracy against the American people and our sovereignty.
09:18And now Donald Trump and his team, they're trying to fix it.
09:21It's a Herculean task.
09:23And I know we all want the deportation numbers way up.
09:26I do.
09:27But DHS is still fighting a lot.
09:30They're fighting paid protesters, Marxists, Antifa, and the NGOs who file lawsuits to stop them.
09:37And we're not about right now to let The New York Times and the Democrats, with their unnamed sources and revisionist history, to pass the buck as we head into the crucial midterms.
09:48But nice try.
09:50And that's the angle.
09:51Missouri Senator Josh Hawley had a front row seat to all of this while this was unfolding.
09:57You came on the show, I don't know how many times, Senator, as this open borders catastrophe was being unleashed on the American people.
10:05But do you find this New York Times piece to be a CYA moment for the Democrats, cleverly planted?
10:13Oh, of course it is, Laura, because the truth is, this was a Democrat policy and a Democrat priority for years and years.
10:23And nobody, by the way, was cheering it on more than the Democrats' biggest donors, the multinational corporations.
10:29What did they want out of the deal?
10:30What did they want out of the deal? Cheap labor.
10:31This, all this stuff about, this talk about human right to migration, that just means cheap labor.
10:37That's why all of the big funders wanted this.
10:39That's why they shoveled the money to Biden.
10:41By the way, that same ideology is what led Biden to open the doors to all of those Afghan refugees and parolees to abuse the system.
10:49And it landed us the terrorists who just attacked these National Guardsmen.
10:53It landed us thousands of others Afghan parolees.
10:56We have no idea what their ties are to terrorism, to terrorist groups, because Biden just opened the doors, let them all in the country.
11:03No vetting.
11:04To think that this was just happenstance or accident, it wasn't.
11:07It was part of a plan.
11:08It was all funded by the corporate interests because it's what they wanted.
11:12And now the American people and the Trump administration are left to pick up the pieces.
11:15Yeah, I just howled.
11:17Everyone's like, oh, the New York Times is really, they're really seeing the light here.
11:21Give me a break.
11:23They're not seeing the light on this.
11:25The Democrats see what's coming perhaps in the midterms because Americans are still ticked off about this open border.
11:32And we're seeing crime after crime after crime committed by people who were released by Biden or who came back into the country under Biden.
11:41And this light rail attack by a Biden, you know, got away that just happened again in Charlotte.
11:50We'll get his photo up any second.
11:52But I mean, come on.
11:53They're ridiculous.
11:55Senator House Democrat revealed the Democrats plan if they retake the House next year.
12:00Watch.
12:01There has to be a foundation for what Democrats stand for as we go into the next election.
12:06And that is a pragmatic solution to many of the immigration issues that we face, including at the border.
12:12That includes a strong border.
12:14That includes legal pathways to residency and work status for many folks that are here and that have been here for many years.
12:20And some resolution for dreamers.
12:22It starts with a plan, turns into legislation.
12:24But we have to get the American people on our side.
12:26Senator, so they go from trying to cover their butts on the border and what they did to now saying we're going to double down on failure and we're going to go for a mass amnesty.
12:37That's going to be a magnet at the border.
12:39I've killed about four amnesty bills in my career from radio to television or help kill them.
12:44And this is just be another one.
12:46Any Republican that goes near this.
12:48And I hope everybody's watching.
12:49You're next on the list.
12:50Sorry.
12:53Yeah, it absolutely should be.
12:54But, you know, one of the most important mantras in politics, Lauren, you know this, is follow the money.
12:58So I would just say as to that last comment from that Democrat, just follow the money and you'll understand all of this.
13:04It's the big donors once again, the multinational corporations once again saying we want to get back to open border policies.
13:11Why?
13:11We don't like the fact that American wages are going up, the corporations say.
13:15They hate the fact that Trump is delivering for blue-collar workers.
13:18They don't want that.
13:19They want floods of cheap labor coming in this country.
13:22They want their profits up.
13:23American wages down.
13:25Trump is reversing the Biden years, the trend of blue-collar wages going down.
13:29He's getting them up.
13:30We need to continue that trend.
13:32We need to continue to keep the border locked down, make immigration work for Americans.
13:37That's a winning formula.
13:38That's what Trump is delivering.
13:39Yeah.
13:40Ramp up deportations.
13:42No amnesty.
13:43Go home.
13:44And maybe you can apply to come back here later.
13:46But that's it.
13:47No deal with these.
13:48They've proven themselves to be treasonous on the border.
13:51They cannot be trusted.
13:52Senator, you've been a leading voice on this for so many years.
13:56Thank you so much for coming.
13:58All right.
13:59So staying on this topic for a moment, you think of New Orleans, right?
14:03And if all you know about New Orleans is gumbo and Mardi Gras, then you're missing out.
14:08You're missing out on the underbelly of criminality, courtesy of the Democrats' love of open borders.
14:13Again, as I noted in the angle, it's all predictable.
14:16But thanks to Operation Catahoula, DHS is rounding them up.
14:20And some of Biden's gifts are people like this.
14:24Meet Bin Van from Vietnam, who was convicted for robbery, kidnapping, homicide, and aggravated assault.
14:31Another honor roll student.
14:32They also nabbed Carlos Roberto Guardado Ramirez, pick one name, from Honduras.
14:38And DHS says he's been arrested for simple battery, domestic abuse, and child endangerment.
14:44Naturally, the anti-ice radicals in New Orleans responded with rage.
14:50We want justice.
14:51We want peace.
14:52No racist truth in our streets.
14:55No racist truth in our streets.
14:58All printed signs, all paid for.
15:01And when journalist Nick Sorter tried to talk to these folks, well, something went down.
15:05To the National Guard are racists, that's a hell of an accusation.
15:09Or are you just saying it because, you know, it's politically convenient for you?
15:15I'm curious.
15:16I mean, I feel like that's a pretty fair question.
15:18Why are you doing that, sir?
15:19You should probably, you should probably...
15:21Why are you doing that, sir?
15:22What the hell is wrong with you?
15:25Stop!
15:26Dude, stop!
15:29Independent journalist Nick Sorter joins us now.
15:32Nick, it was good to see you at the Kennedy Center last night.
15:34Yeah, you cleaned up pretty good, Nick.
15:37That's what that looked like.
15:39Now, what was that thug who went after you trying to achieve?
15:43I couldn't really follow that.
15:44It looked like they're trying to knock your camera down.
15:46I mean, same old, same old there.
15:49Yeah, it's the same thing always, Laura.
15:51Because, I mean, you go there and you ask them a simple question, and it's embarrassing for them
15:55because they can't answer it, right?
15:56So what they got to do next is try to, you know, break the phone so that I can't access
16:02that footage anymore for these questions that I was just asking.
16:05You saw this reaction because, you know, I went up to one of the organizers after she
16:10got this entire crowd to come out and say that the National Guard is racist.
16:13And she knows that she's doing this in front of volatile, potentially violent people.
16:19And we just saw what happened in Washington, D.C.
16:22And now she's going to come out here and say that they're racist.
16:25What do you expect is going to happen after that?
16:28You're going to see more of these attacks, which, in my opinion, Laura, is exactly what
16:32they want.
16:32Now, Nick, I want to play what a New Orleans police officer said to you after this assault.
16:39Watch.
16:40I don't want you here antagonizing them, creating a problem.
16:43I don't have a problem with you being here.
16:45There's no reason to even ask them questions.
16:47Let them just exercise their right.
16:49And if you want to film them, stand by your vehicle and film them because you got to say
16:52something.
16:53By you asking them questions and starting a dialogue with them, you're creating a problem
16:57with them.
16:58See what I'm saying?
16:59Well, Nick, did that approach surprise you?
17:05I mean, you have that female police chief, right, New Orleans, who I didn't seem to think
17:09she was thrilled about, you know, the push for ice down in New Orleans at all.
17:14So this doesn't really surprise me.
17:17Yeah, I mean, you're still hearing it to your face, right, telling me that I'm creating the
17:20problem by having dialogue.
17:23That was literally the quote.
17:24How dare you?
17:26It's still the amount of times I can hear that over and over again.
17:28And I'm still going to be shocked by it.
17:30But at the end of the day, Laura, I mean, look at what happened in Portland as well.
17:33Out there when I was arrested because I was a conservative out there trying to cover the
17:38ice riots that the legacy media didn't want to.
17:42I mean, these liberal, these big leftist police departments routinely side with the woke,
17:47radical, violent left.
17:48And, you know, we were able to find out over those past weeks, since I was arrested in Portland,
17:53just today, actually, we served them with a $10 million federal civil rights lawsuit,
17:58because this is a pattern and practice of these far left cities ordering their police department
18:06to go after people like me.
18:07And in Portland's case, leave the leftist protesters alone.
18:11Give them more runway and latitude.
18:13There was literally, we found a case, Laura, where they decided that they weren't going
18:18to answer calls for help from these Trump supporters that were in downtown Portland.
18:22And that guy ended up being assassinated by an Antifa thug, all because the Portland police
18:28wouldn't respond to them.
18:30Well, I think it's crazy.
18:31I think you're lucky, first of all, you're lucky you're not in Europe, because the EU
18:36would have already, you would have already, you would have been in jail and never come
18:39out.
18:39As far as I can tell, we're going to get to that story tomorrow.
18:41But, Nick, what I see here, what I see routinely, is that as we move toward the midterms, there's
18:47going to be an attempt to revise history.
18:50And this is going to be written off as, oh, you guys are provoking them.
18:54It was just the Biden people that got this wrong.
18:57Now we need to move on to amnesty.
18:59That's what I laid out in the angle.
19:00I think you're beginning to see that with that New York Times piece over the weekend.
19:04It was Biden's team.
19:05They tried to tell him, but he wouldn't listen.
19:09And so now it's, you know, then it's the journalist's fault.
19:13So this is the narrative they think is going to work.
19:15I don't think it's going to work.
19:16No, no, the American people, like, they don't buy it.
19:18All they have to do is watch the video.
19:20I put the raw clips out there, right?
19:21And there is another video.
19:22You can see this mob that knew I had no backup.
19:25They still come in and they swarm me and they hit me in the face, right?
19:28I steal my phone and such.
19:30But they're trying to intimidate us to stay out and not show these sorts of things, right?
19:36But we're not going to do that.
19:37We cannot back down to this stuff.
19:39People ask, like, oh, well, you know that you being there is going to piss these people off.
19:43So maybe you shouldn't go.
19:44That's exactly what they want.
19:46We can't do that.
19:47Yeah.
19:47Nick, you might need a little backup next time we go in that crowd.
19:50I mean, you're not exactly six foot five there.
19:53No, no.
19:54You're not in special operations.
19:55But, Nick, I'm glad you're out there.
19:57Thank you so much.
19:58It was great seeing you last night as well.
20:00And coming up, the New York Times finally catches up to another thing the Angle has been warning about for years.
20:05This must be catch-up week at the New York Times or maybe CYA week, as I said, because they're finally devoting real resources to reporting on something the Angle's been hitting for 15 years, back to radio days, the China threat.
20:23Specifically, China's fast-growing military capabilities.
20:27A world in which a totalitarian China achieves military superiority in Asia and Russia feels free to menace Europe would make Americans poorer and threaten democracies everywhere.
20:39It's a prospect we should act resolutely to prevent.
20:43No kidding.
20:44And we told you so.
20:45Ditto for the Times' sudden turnaround on Zelensky.
20:48For years, they've heralded him as close to kind of a modern-day Churchill.
20:53And now, suddenly, when the Times did actual reporting, it published a scathing takedown.
20:58Over the past four years, a New York Times investigation found the Ukrainian government systematically sabotaged oversight, allowing graft to flourish.
21:08Zelensky's administration has stacked boards with loyalists, left seats empty or stalled them from being set up at all.
21:15Leaders in Kyiv even rewrote company charters to limit oversight, keeping the government in control and allowing hundreds of millions of dollars to be spent without outsiders poking around.
21:28I'm going to translate this for you.
21:31We have no idea where our money went in Ukraine and who got rich off the generosity of you, the U.S. taxpayers.
21:38But, of course, when the money and the weapons end up stopping, the demands for accounting will begin.
21:46But Zelensky seems to want to delay the inevitable as long as possible.
21:51So we've been speaking to President Putin and we've been speaking to Ukrainian leaders, including Zelensky, President Zelensky.
21:59And I have to say that I'm a little bit disappointed that President Zelensky hasn't yet read the proposal.
22:06That was as of a few hours ago.
22:09His people love it, but he has it.
22:12Russia's fine with it.
22:14Huh.
22:15Wonder why we're dragging our feet on this.
22:18Montana Senator Tim Sheehy is here with analysis.
22:22Senator, wonderful to see you tonight.
22:23Will the Senate demand what the American people, I think, want, which is a clear accounting of the upwards of $200 billion in money and weapons we've sent over there?
22:37Well, the Republican side of the Senate certainly will.
22:39And I think you're going to see actually a growing bipartisan desire for that, Laura.
22:43I think, as you said, that the facts can't be ignored.
22:45I was shocked today when I saw the New York Times, both the articles you mentioned, my staff forwarded to me.
22:49And believe it or not, I don't read the New York Times most days.
22:52But I was shocked to read what I saw because they're absolutely right on both accounts.
22:56Now, Democrats don't want the war to end either, Senator.
23:00Watch.
23:01Right now, the most serious corruption of American foreign policy ever is being talked about inside the Trump administration.
23:09It's being described as a peace plan to end the Russian war in Ukraine.
23:13But if you look at the details, it has nothing to do with peace.
23:17It is a business deal to make the people around Donald Trump rich.
23:21It's just corruption through and through.
23:25Senator Chris Murphy is one of the less pleasant individuals, to put it kindly, out there.
23:31But why is the left trying to prevent peace here?
23:34What's what's going on here?
23:36This obviously isn't going to end in anything but a stalemate.
23:39Well, you know, their views on foreign policy, of course, were allowed this invasion to happen in the first place.
23:46They unleashed Gaza into Israel.
23:47They unleashed and empowered Iran for decades, handing them billions of dollars.
23:51And, of course, as we're seeing right now, you know, they opened and opened the doors and laid out the right carpet for Russia to continue on their expansion and efforts.
23:58And now, of course, they want to keep that going.
24:00They don't want to have a common-sense approach that most Americans have said very clearly.
24:04They want these wars to be over.
24:06They want us to stop sending hundreds of billions of dollars to other countries when we have our own issues here.
24:10And this is a great distraction for them.
24:12The reality is Americans spoke loud and clear.
24:14They want Donald Trump to continue to ending all the wars he's already ended.
24:17They want him to get this conflict wrapped up as quickly as possible.
24:21We don't want Russia to win, of course.
24:22But at the end of the day, we have the Corruption Museum in Ukraine, where I think we're on the fourth chief of staff now for Zelensky.
24:29He's fired multiple generals in the past few years.
24:31We've proven billions of dollars headed to locations that we don't even know what they've been spent on.
24:36We want Ukraine to prevail.
24:37But at the end of the day, we can't expect the American people to keep footing the bill for this.
24:42And why the Democrats want it to keep going is beyond me.
24:44Well, I think we also have something that, to me, is the most important issue that the Senate can deal with right now and the House of Representatives, which is this existential threat.
24:58That's an overused phrase, I understand, to the United States and our independence.
25:02Now that the border is sealed, we have to focus on this China threat, Senator Sheehy.
25:07And this assessment by the Times and security assessments that have been compiled over recent years indicate that China is set to surpass our U.S. military capabilities in the not-too-distant future.
25:22They are planning to take Taiwan in 2027.
25:25That's their plan right now, a soft takeover, whatever you want to call it.
25:29And it doesn't look like there's much at all we're going to do about it, or even that we can do about it.
25:35Well, I've got a wake-up call for you, Laura, and none of this is classified.
25:38It's just a fact if you read the actual open-source information that's available.
25:42They've already exceeded our military capabilities, Laura.
25:44They have more planes, more ships, more submarines, more missiles, more bombs, more soldiers.
25:48They have the ability to build ships 230 times faster than we do.
25:51They have more vessels to be able to send across the Taiwan Strait than we have torpedoes to sink them.
25:56They have an air force that outnumbers ours.
25:58They have previously was a technological gap that we were able to depend on.
26:02That technology gap has evaporated.
26:05Their assets in space are threatening the security of our orbital infrastructure,
26:08which threatens our very economy and our ability to do anything with the military.
26:11We have fantastic men and women in uniform.
26:13We do have great platforms, but we do not have enough of them.
26:16And the way our programs are structured is they're sclerotic, they're bureaucratic,
26:20and process takes precedence over outcome.
26:22And I've been working since day one when I got here to rip that up and fix this process
26:26because they refuse to let lance corporals and sergeants and young captains and lieutenants
26:30die on a beach somewhere in Asia because we did not do our job here in this building.
26:34We have failed our men and women in uniform.
26:36We're failing them now.
26:37It's not about top-line spending.
26:39It's about efficiency.
26:40It's about effects on target and getting the end customer,
26:42which is the warfighter, what they need.
26:44We're not doing it.
26:45Time for the wake-up calls now, Laura.
26:46We've got to get to work.
26:47Well, Senator, this seems to be, again, if this is all true and it seems to be true,
26:53this is the most important issue facing the United States.
26:57We need an industrial policy and an industrial plan, similar to what we had in the lead-up
27:03to World War II, to fix this.
27:05Because if we don't fix it, I mean, all these other conversations about the border,
27:09I mean, that's all irrelevant.
27:11No question.
27:12It's a Manhattan Project-style moment, and we have to mobilize the entire government towards
27:16it doesn't mean we have to shut everything else down, but we have to cut the red tape.
27:19The processes that we've instituted in the last 35 years are perverse incentives.
27:24It encourages process over outcome and encourages sclerotic, bureaucratic processes that go through
27:31program offices, to program specification offices, to engineering offices, to review processes,
27:36to where we can spend years, decades in some cases, developing a single weapon system
27:41that could have been done in years or months and years prior.
27:44And how about not building up China's military with a massive trade deficit?
27:48President Trump's trying to stop that, not giving them all the technology that they need
27:51to advance in their military capabilities.
27:53That would be nice, too.
27:54Senator, always great to have you on.
27:58And coming up, Raymond hits the red carpet at the Kennedy Center Honors.
28:01Seen and Unseen, it's next.
28:06It's time for Seen and Unseen, where we reveal the stories behind the headlines.
28:09For that, we turn to Fox News contributor, Raymond Arroyo.
28:12All right, Raymond, we were both at the Kennedy Center Honors last night, getting a lot of
28:16great video for the show and online, social media, and you hit the red carpet.
28:22Laura, it was an historic night.
28:24George Strait, Kiss, you mentioned earlier, Gloria Gaynor and Michael Crawford, and our
28:28pal Sly Stallone were honored.
28:30And Trump became the first president to host a Kennedy Center Honors.
28:34We spoke to some of the honorees and the man himself.
28:43Tell me how you became such an icon in the middle of American culture with Rocky, with
28:50Rambo.
28:50Do you even realize how influential all of that is?
28:53Well, it's funny you say that, Raymond.
28:55I'm not goal-oriented, so I didn't have a target I was aiming or trying to climb that mountain,
29:03that peak.
29:04I was just trying to write about the way I perceive life.
29:09And luckily, a lot of other people feel as though they're underdogs, and there's a lot
29:14more to achieve, and even when you turn my age, I feel as though, God, there's still something
29:19left in the bucket there.
29:22I haven't hit rock bottom yet, which is frustrating, but it also is quite motivating, see what I
29:27mean?
29:28You're still in it.
29:29I know.
29:29People go, you got nothing left to prove.
29:32We all do.
29:34What does this moment represent for you?
29:36It's the ultimate.
29:37This is completely unexpected.
29:39I've been rewarded so much in my life.
29:42Look at my trophy here, and my daughter's.
29:45I'm serious.
29:46I'm not joking.
29:47I go, if there's one thing, the film business, they get a lot of awards.
29:53And I look at people that just live in the shadows, firemen, doctors.
29:57I go, wow, that's amazing.
30:00You save lives.
30:01We pretend to save lives.
30:03How have the injuries, you watching him go through so many injuries on all of these action
30:12flicks?
30:13This is, we just finished our eighth back surgery.
30:16That's why he has a cane.
30:17He has, he has had three neck surgeries, knees, elbows, shoulders.
30:22He's, he's been through it, and we, we need one more surgery on the back.
30:26So after we finished, Tulsa came, we're going to head back to the operating room.
30:30But he's still punching.
30:31He's still punching.
30:34You've said KISS embodies the American dream.
30:38How so?
30:39Well, interestingly, I'm really the product of the American dream.
30:43My, my mother came here and fled Germany.
30:47During the night, her family was told that they would be arrested in the morning and taken
30:52to a concentration camp.
30:53They came with nothing but the shirt on their backs, worked hard, and, you know, the, the
31:00rewards were what they worked for.
31:03There was no, there was no handout.
31:07Dean, your mom, Flora, was a Holocaust survivor, and I know she had a huge influence on your life
31:12and the way you led it.
31:14What would she think of this moment, this honor?
31:16All, all of us, all we want to do is to make our moms proud.
31:20I know for a fact I've never gotten high or drunk or smoked cigarettes for one reason,
31:25and I know people think this is all for a fact I really could give a ****.
31:29I don't care what anybody thinks.
31:30I just couldn't do that and break my mother's heart after she survived Nazi concentration camps in Germany.
31:39What does this moment represent to you and this honor after your long career?
31:44Well, it's, it's just the most amazing surprise because you think everything is over and you're
31:50going into a quiet life and suddenly you get a phone call saying what they did.
31:54I owe America so much from my early youth watching silent films, which I picked up on honesty and Buster Keaton and Harold Lloyd
32:06and the honesty of the comedy they played.
32:09It was dramatic.
32:10It was drama.
32:12And then I, and then you work with Gene Kelly and Hello, Dolly.
32:16I mean, these are amazing experiences.
32:18By the way, can you make a Christmas dream come through for me?
32:22Will you sing It Only Takes a Moment for a second with me?
32:26It only takes a moment.
32:33Tell me what you expect the hosting job to look like, okay?
32:38Is this going to be more Johnny Carson or Don Rickle?
32:42I think it's Johnny Carson.
32:44What do you think?
32:45Johnny Carson for sure.
32:46I'm going with Rickles all the way.
32:49I'll go with Johnny Carson.
32:50You know why it's going to be the highest rated show ever?
32:52Because he's going to be doing Don Rickles.
32:54Watch.
32:55Don Rickles.
32:56Oh, Johnny Carson.
32:57I hope it's Don Rickles.
33:00How have you prepared to host tonight?
33:03Well, maybe I haven't prepared.
33:05Maybe you want to be a little bit loose.
33:07If you look at the great hosts, Johnny Carson, Bob Hope, those are the greats.
33:13If you look at the not-so-greats, like Jimmy Kimmel, he was just terrible.
33:18I've been asking your cabinet tonight, is this going to be more Johnny Carson or Don Rickles?
33:23Well, I knew them both, and they were both great guys and friends of mine.
33:27Both difficult.
33:28Very difficult.
33:30But great.
33:30I mean, I was really very close to both of them.
33:34You can't compare them.
33:35They were very different.
33:36Why did you want to-
33:37But Johnny Carson for hosting was top of the line.
33:42Are those actually Paul Stanley shoes?
33:45These are actually Paul Stanley shoes.
33:48Let me see.
33:49The actual.
33:50From his last show at Madison Square Garden.
33:54They fit perfectly.
33:56My mom is a huge, huge fan of yours, and I'm a huge fan of Laura's.
34:02Okay.
34:03I'll tell her.
34:04Laura, I'll see you on the show.
34:04Just invite me.
34:05I'll come to New York to do it.
34:06Mom, I'll see you soon.
34:08Raymond, thank you very much.
34:09Good job you're doing.
34:10Say hello.
34:13That was Chris Angel at the end there, Laura.
34:16But look, Rick Grinnell and his team, Roma, in the press office, and Amanda Fisher, they
34:21did such an incredible job.
34:23What a beautiful night.
34:24But I want to prove our thesis.
34:25We said it would be more Rickles.
34:27I give you President Trump hosting.
34:30Watch.
34:32It's an honor to see so many of my friends, so many people I know in this audience.
34:36Some good, some bad.
34:39Some I really love and respect.
34:41Some I truly hate.
34:44But they're having a good time.
34:46Yeah, there was a few.
34:48He later said there's some horrible people in this crowd.
34:52It was totally Rickles with elements of Carson around the edges.
34:57But it's a really incredible thing to see a president host a Kennedy Center honors like this.
35:02I have to say there were so many moments that I loved, but I loved the gospel music because Gloria
35:08Gaynor's gospel album is if people watching, if you've never gotten it, download it.
35:14It is phenomenal.
35:15And the performances and gospel, I got teared up.
35:20It was absolutely beautiful.
35:22But, Raymond, I felt like I was the only one dancing in my seat.
35:24There were people dancing, but I think I was dancing too much in my seat.
35:28I was one of those annoying seat dancers.
35:30On the red carpet, you were practically dancing.
35:34Do we have that footage, guys?
35:35Show Laura's appearance on the red carpet, please.
35:37You better not.
35:39What?
35:39What was I doing?
35:40Look.
35:41Well, they're not playing the audio, but I said, I said, what is it?
35:45Is this a disco ball?
35:46And you said, yes.
35:46I'm going to be dancing around in circles just to light up the set.
35:50I don't know why we're not playing it, but there you go.
35:51You get the gist.
35:52But it was an incredible night.
35:54And there was a singer, Carrie Manilakis, who sang It Only Takes a Moment.
35:59Boy, she blew the roof off the place.
36:01Incredible evening.
36:02It was just elegant.
36:04And you know what?
36:05As Kelsey Grammer told us, it was free of politics, Laura.
36:08It was really free of politics.
36:10It was a celebration of the arts.
36:11And I like the fact that Garth Brooks, Miranda Lambert, Vince Gill, I don't think they're
36:17not fans of probably this show or Trump, but they came to support the Kennedy Center
36:23and George Strait.
36:25It was fabulous.
36:26And I'm glad I got the chance to say hi to Miranda Lambert.
36:29So I'm a huge fan.
36:30Raymond, thank you very much.
36:32Fantastic reporting.
36:34I loved it.
36:34All right.
36:35Coming up, who, Ilan Omar says, are the victims in Minnesota's fraud scheme?
36:41This also has an impact on Somalis because we are also taxpayers in Minnesota.
36:53We also could have benefited from the program and the money that was stolen.
37:00And so it's been really frustrating for people to not acknowledge the fact that we're, you
37:08know, we're also, as Minnesotans, as taxpayers, really upset.
37:14What's a percentage of this community on federal assistance?
37:19I think the country wants to know the actual numbers.
37:22Well, Democrats have been coming up with every excuse to shield the Somali community in
37:26Minnesota.
37:27Many accountability over the billion dollar fraud scheme.
37:31Here to weigh in is Minnesota State Senator Michael Holmstrom.
37:34Senator Holmstrom, the real victims here, who are they?
37:41You know, I tell you, Laura, it is so disingenuous to see somebody of the likes of Ilhan Omar,
37:46whose friends personally benefited from these fraud schemes.
37:50The fallout from these fraud has already started to hit state agencies.
37:54I met with a vocational rehab provider in my district this morning who is, you know, their
38:00clients, the vulnerable adults that these programs are meant to serve, are now paying
38:04the price.
38:05Newly restricted programs are now affecting the care that these folks are trying to receive.
38:11And now our friends and neighbors from across the state have to, you know, worry, could
38:16their care be affected?
38:18But Ilhan Omar is the victim.
38:20It's beyond comprehension.
38:21Well, the Somali community are right now experiencing higher rates of poverty than other immigrants.
38:32Apparently, 58 percent are living in poverty now, a disturbing percentage on public assistance,
38:44federal assistance, state assistance.
38:46This is costing the taxpayers tens of millions of dollars over the years, probably a lot more.
38:53And certainly nationally, a lot of these refugee groups from the Afghans to the Somalis to the
38:59Venezuelans, the list goes on and on.
39:02And at some point, this is not about keeping people out.
39:06It's about keeping us actually, you know, from going bankrupt in some of these communities.
39:11Yeah, Minnesota has one of the largest social safety nets in the country, something that
39:17most Minnesotans have been OK with.
39:20And unfortunately, it's really been put to test these last few years.
39:24I keep hearing renewed calls to reel it back and to disincentivize these program users.
39:29And it's really it's disappointing that this has happened in the way it has.
39:34And obviously, folks on the ground are really starting to see some pain.
39:39Is there any sense that the voters in Minnesota have begun to have enough of this?
39:46I mean, I can't tell you how many times I've spent walking the streets, Lake Street, down
39:51in Minneapolis, up in Duluth, way up.
39:55And like, are we going to have a change, political change?
40:00I think the winds are coming.
40:01People are are done with this.
40:04People are upset of every background.
40:06We're going to see a serious revitalization of conservatism.
40:10I certainly hope so, Michael.
40:11Always good to see you.
40:12And ahead.
40:14So Crockett.
40:16Yeah, she's giving Republicans an early Christmas gift.
40:19Hello, everyone.
40:20It's President.
40:21Good night, everyone.
40:32Good night, everyone.
40:46I don't know.
41:16I don't know.
41:46I don't know.
42:16I don't know.
42:46I don't know.
43:16I don't know.
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