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Undefeated boxer Terence "Bud" Crawford sat down with Forbes to discuss his journey to and beyond the ring. Fresh off his victory over Canelo, Crawford details his strategy for real estate investment, emphasizing steady returns over big swings, and shares how financial literacy became key to securing his future.
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0:00 Introduction
0:22 Crawford's Bankable Rise
03:51 Tough Childhood Lessons In North Omaha
05:44 Family Influence And The Start Of A Boxing Career
09:29 From $600 To Millions
13:38 Building Wealth Through Financial Literacy And Real Estate
18:43 Commitment To Community In Omaha
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05:44 Family Influence And The Start Of A Boxing Career
09:29 From $600 To Millions
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00:00God not making any more land.
00:03So, the more you own real estate, the more you own the world.
00:18Terrence Bud Crawford, thanks for being here with us today.
00:20Appreciate it.
00:21We're just a few months removed from arguably the biggest fight of your career.
00:25Obviously, beat Canelo in Las Vegas.
00:27I'm curious, how you feeling? What's your mindset like?
00:30I'm feeling great, you know.
00:32That was a great night.
00:33History was definitely made on that night.
00:39And I'm feeling great, you know.
00:41Nothing is really different in my life.
00:45Now that you've beaten Spence and Canelo, you know, those two obviously huge fights,
00:49I'm curious, do you feel like you've reached a new level of your career?
00:52Of course, of course.
00:53I definitely feel like after this Canelo fight, you know,
00:58my stock, my everything we have, it went up.
01:04Getting to 42-0, no easy task.
01:07But it does seem like, you know, the world's taken a little while to catch up on your excellence in the ring.
01:12And I'm curious, why do you think that is?
01:14Why do you think it's taken so long for the world to catch up?
01:16Well, I think the world took a little time to catch up because I wasn't flashy and botious.
01:24You know, I think my quietness and shyness away from the cameras
01:34had led me to not pick up so many fans because they wanted to see entertainment
01:41before the ring and outside the ring.
01:45And I give them the excitement in the ring.
01:49So I do what I'm supposed to do.
01:51And I just think they just kind of wanted a little more
01:54or wanted somebody that was more out there, I suppose.
01:58You keep a low profile, like you say.
02:01Throughout your career, though, you know, there are points where,
02:03whether it was, you know, you didn't get the big fights
02:05or you didn't necessarily, you know, promoters didn't think you were so bankable.
02:09Do you feel like that hindered you in a way?
02:13Do you feel like that prevented you from kind of taking that leap that we're seeing now?
02:17I think people that say, the promoters that say I couldn't sell
02:25or, you know, bring a lot of people to the fights
02:32is just was a tactic that they got from my previous promoter,
02:38which said that because I was leaving this company,
02:44which said that, but from every fight,
02:48from Gamboa to Ndongo to whoever it was in Jeff Horn in Vegas,
02:59New York, Omaha, it was 12,000 plus in all those fights.
03:07So for a person that couldn't sell,
03:10I sure was selling more than anybody else in his stable at that time.
03:15But, I mean, after Canelo, like, you got to be pretty bankable, right?
03:19Do you see yourself as kind of arguably one of the,
03:21if not the most bankable fighter in boxing now?
03:24I would say that, you know, if you look online,
03:26you'll see everybody and their mama calling me out.
03:30Now, now everybody want to fight Terrence Crawford,
03:33but where was all this energy when Terrence Crawford
03:36was wanting to fight everybody and nobody wanted to fight me?
03:41Nobody wanted to give me a shot.
03:42But, you know, where was all that energy?
03:44But now it's, everybody want to fight me now
03:48because the ties have changed.
03:51Let's go back in time a little bit.
03:52You grew up on the north side of Omaha.
03:54Curious, what was your childhood like?
03:56How would you describe that?
03:57It was cool.
03:58My childhood was cool, you know.
04:02Definitely got in a little trouble here and there,
04:05but, you know, we made it, so.
04:10Yeah, yeah.
04:11I mean, the north side of Omaha, you know,
04:13does, you know, have a reputation of being kind of a tougher area.
04:17Did you feel like, you know,
04:17you kind of experienced that during your childhood?
04:19For sure, it was definitely tough.
04:22You know, going to school was tough.
04:24The kids around was tough.
04:26You had to be tough.
04:27You had to have tough skin
04:28to be able to survive through the storm,
04:32you know, especially hanging out with the people
04:35that I was hanging out with.
04:39You know, getting into the things that we was getting into
04:43and one thing led to another.
04:45You got a couple of friends dead.
04:47You got friends in jail.
04:50And that's life.
04:51Did you struggle financially growing up?
04:53Did you feel like, you know,
04:54you had to get through a lot of tough financial times?
04:56Oh, of course.
04:57Of course.
04:58You know, that's North Omaha for you.
05:02This is a community that's basically
05:07bred on poverty, you know,
05:10and Section 8 welfare, things like that.
05:14So you see a lot of kids, you know,
05:17that don't have as much as the next kid,
05:19and that becomes a problem
05:21because now those fortunate kids,
05:25well, more fortunate kids,
05:27is making fun of the less fortunate kids,
05:30and that becomes a problem.
05:33And now you got kids fighting
05:35and kids shooting,
05:37kids doing the things that,
05:38you know, it's crazy to do.
05:44What was your relationship with your parents like,
05:46you know, especially considering, like,
05:47where you've gotten today, I'm sure,
05:49you know, they had to make a lot of sacrifices
05:50along the way.
05:51Well, my mom, my mom was my best friend,
05:53but my mom was, you know, so tough on me.
05:56She was so tough on me.
05:57Like, she built tough skin within me.
06:03And my dad, he was in the military,
06:05and he was gone, you know,
06:07but he was always supportive.
06:10He was always, you know,
06:11telling me I'm going to be world champion,
06:13I'm going to make it.
06:14And my mom would be the one, like,
06:17he ain't going to be shit.
06:19You know what I mean?
06:19But given my mom,
06:23she knew how to get to me.
06:25She knew that I had the heart of a lion,
06:27that anything she told me I couldn't do,
06:30I was going to try to prove her wrong,
06:31because I always wanted that validation from her.
06:34So it was a great tactic.
06:37Guy still close today?
06:39Yeah, I see her every day.
06:40That's great.
06:41Who had the bright idea
06:42to put boxing gloves in your hands?
06:45My mom.
06:48Went home one day and told her that
06:50this guy was trying to talk to me.
06:54He was in a van,
06:55and he was talking about boxing,
06:59and I ran home and telling my mom,
07:02and as I'm telling her the story,
07:03he knocking on my door,
07:05and he comes in,
07:06and my whole family greets him.
07:08I'm like,
07:09this is the dude I'm telling y'all about.
07:11And they're like,
07:12oh, Carl,
07:13your dad, your uncle,
07:15and them used to box for him.
07:17And I was just like,
07:18oh, okay, okay.
07:19You know,
07:19so he was in line
07:20when he was talking about boxing.
07:22And then so,
07:23he asked me,
07:24did I want to box?
07:25And my mom looked at me,
07:27and she said,
07:27do you?
07:28I said,
07:29I'll try it.
07:30That's how I started boxing.
07:32And the rest is history.
07:33Yeah.
07:34When did you know you were better
07:35than everyone else?
07:37You know,
07:37when did you really start to feel like
07:38you were standing out?
07:40When I first got there,
07:41the first day,
07:42I always felt that.
07:43I always felt that I was the best
07:45at anything that I tried to do.
07:48You know,
07:49when I first went to the gym,
07:52I remember,
07:53like it was yesterday,
07:54I'm trying to spar,
07:55I'm trying to get in the ring
07:55and fight.
07:56I want to fight.
07:57How old were you?
07:58I was seven.
07:59I was,
08:00I was too young
08:01to even have a fight.
08:03You know,
08:03I'm like,
08:04I want to fight.
08:05Y'all brought me down here
08:06to fight.
08:06I want to fight.
08:07They like,
08:07hold on,
08:08little guy.
08:09You got to,
08:10you got to be in the gym
08:11and you got to learn
08:12how to box
08:12and you got to wait
08:14till you're eight years old
08:15for you to even fight
08:16and this and that and this.
08:17But,
08:18the more I trained,
08:20the more I was coming
08:21to the gym,
08:21they throw me in there
08:22with some eight,
08:24eight-year-olds,
08:25some nine-year-olds,
08:26and I hold my own.
08:27And they was just like,
08:28man,
08:28this little dude was tough.
08:30You know,
08:30so,
08:31when I got a little older,
08:33it's just me progressing
08:35and getting better and better.
08:38What do you think
08:38your breakthrough moment was?
08:40I think my breakthrough
08:41in amateurs or pro?
08:43Well,
08:44both.
08:44Let's start with amateurs.
08:46I think
08:46my amateur breakthrough
08:48was when I came back
08:49to the gym in 2002.
08:51You know,
08:52because I was,
08:52I was going away
08:53from the gym
08:54for like five years
08:55because I got kicked
08:57out of the gym.
08:57So I went to football,
08:58basketball,
08:59and wrestling
08:59and things like that.
09:01Why'd you get kicked
09:01out of the gym?
09:02Not listening.
09:03Not listening.
09:04I'm just hard-headed.
09:06So when I came back,
09:07I came back older,
09:09more mature,
09:10um,
09:11with my mindset
09:12that
09:13I'm going to do
09:14something different
09:15this time
09:15than I did
09:16the last times
09:17because I got kicked
09:18out twice.
09:19How old were you
09:20at this point?
09:20I was probably
09:21like eight,
09:22nine.
09:24Gotcha.
09:24And then professionally,
09:25you know,
09:26fast forward,
09:27what was the
09:27breakthrough moment there?
09:29My breakthrough moment
09:30was when I left
09:31top rank.
09:33Once I left top rank,
09:35that's when
09:35the rise
09:37of Terrence Crawford
09:38happened.
09:39You know,
09:39you've said publicly
09:40before your first pro fight,
09:41you made $600 for,
09:42which kind of
09:43in the scheme of things
09:44is just tiny compared today.
09:46Seven or eight years later,
09:47you start landing
09:47seven-figure purses.
09:48I believe Hank Lundy
09:49and Victor Postel
09:50were the first
09:51two million-dollar ones.
09:52What did it mean
09:53to you reach that level?
09:55Oh, it meant
09:55everything.
09:57You know,
09:57uh,
09:59it's crazy because
10:00coming up,
10:02I would have always
10:02think
10:03the champion
10:04was making
10:06millions of dollars
10:07not knowing
10:08that they wasn't.
10:11I was always like,
10:13since these guys
10:14on TV,
10:14they making
10:15this crazy amount
10:17of money.
10:17but it's never
10:18like that.
10:19It never was like that.
10:20So,
10:21when I fought
10:23Ricky Burns
10:24in Scotland
10:25and won my first title,
10:27I come back home
10:28and I gotta fight
10:28Gamboa.
10:30And I'm thinking
10:31they gonna pay me
10:31like a million dollars.
10:33Yeah.
10:34Nah.
10:35So I'm like,
10:36what?
10:37You know,
10:37I just fought this dude.
10:38I just went over there.
10:40You remember what
10:40the purse was?
10:41It was like
10:41$500,000.
10:44For your champion?
10:45Yeah.
10:46So I was just like,
10:47okay.
10:48You know,
10:48because that's
10:49the type of person
10:51that I am.
10:51I believe in myself.
10:52Yeah.
10:53So I'm like,
10:54all right,
10:54I'm gonna knock him off
10:55and then my next fight
10:56I'm gonna get more.
10:58Yeah.
10:58So,
10:59you know,
11:00he can't stop me.
11:01Yeah.
11:01So,
11:02that's how I work.
11:04Was anything fun
11:04when you started
11:05getting those
11:06million dollar purses?
11:07Nah.
11:09I didn't.
11:09You know,
11:10my first big check,
11:12I tried to buy
11:13my mama a house.
11:15You know,
11:15she didn't,
11:16nah,
11:16me and my mama
11:17ain't going nowhere.
11:19I said,
11:20I don't know why.
11:21You know,
11:22let me get y'all
11:24up out there.
11:24She went,
11:25nah.
11:26I said,
11:26all right,
11:27man.
11:28Bought me a house.
11:30I fixed they house up.
11:31Like,
11:31hey,
11:31if y'all not gonna move,
11:32I'm gonna gut it,
11:34remodel it.
11:35You know,
11:36so I bought the house
11:37not next door,
11:39but the door,
11:40the house next to the
11:41house next door,
11:42which I own all of them now.
11:45I moved them out that house,
11:47put them in that house,
11:49and just redid the whole house.
11:51Y'all wanna live in here,
11:52then I'm gonna gut it out
11:54and make it more livable,
11:56well,
11:57better livable.
11:58Yeah,
11:58of course.
11:59No,
12:00makes total sense.
12:01Obviously,
12:02the purses have changed
12:03quite a bit
12:04as you've climbed the ranks
12:05and now you're kind of
12:06at the top of the sport.
12:07I do wanna set the record
12:08straight,
12:09though.
12:09So before the Canelo fight,
12:11you had told people
12:12in the press
12:13that you were gonna get
12:13$10 million for that.
12:15And some people in the industry
12:16kind of like,
12:17scoffed at that mark,
12:18like,
12:18no way,
12:19this is such a big fight,
12:19he's getting more and more and more.
12:21So,
12:21you know,
12:22let's set the record
12:23straight here,
12:24okay?
12:25All in,
12:26bonus is everything.
12:26What'd you take home
12:27from Canelo?
12:28$5 million.
12:29All right,
12:33all right.
12:34That's fair.
12:35But Canelo
12:37was your biggest
12:38payday ever,
12:39right?
12:39Is that fair to say?
12:41You can say that.
12:42You can say that,
12:42but I don't know.
12:43Why are people
12:44so obsessed
12:45with pocket watching?
12:48You know,
12:48this is the Forbes mentality.
12:50That's right,
12:51that's right.
12:51I love it,
12:52though.
12:52I love it.
12:53Yeah,
12:53oh,
12:54because they'll never
12:55get their true answer
12:56from me.
12:57Of course,
12:58there's only in here that.
12:59Only a few people
13:00who know,
13:00right?
13:00Right.
13:00Spence,
13:02too,
13:03though,
13:03like,
13:04competing for a purse
13:05of that size,
13:06was that eye-opening?
13:07I mean,
13:07reports,
13:07again,
13:08like,
13:08definitely,
13:08definitely.
13:09I'm sure you won't
13:09tell me reports
13:10had it out there
13:10as $25 million,
13:11but to get to that level,
13:12like,
13:13is that just eye-opening
13:13when you think about
13:14where you were?
13:15For sure,
13:16for sure,
13:17especially,
13:17you know,
13:18giving what I was
13:21making prior to that,
13:24you know,
13:24so it was definitely
13:26an eye-opener.
13:28I'm my own boss.
13:29I don't got to pay nobody.
13:30I'm banking on myself
13:32and doing it my way.
13:34It's just,
13:34it was,
13:34everything about it
13:35was,
13:36you know,
13:37different.
13:38Let's talk about
13:39what you're doing
13:40with all this money.
13:41Obviously,
13:41you've kind of become
13:42pretty active
13:43as an investor.
13:44I'm curious,
13:45where did you pick up
13:45financial literacy?
13:47How did you learn
13:47what to do
13:48with your money?
13:49Well,
13:50just building
13:51those relationships
13:52with people
13:53that have money
13:55and been around money
13:56and know how
13:57to handle money
13:58and getting the knowledge
14:00and wisdom
14:01to know
14:03what to do with it.
14:05That's how
14:05I got into it.
14:07Who are your mentors?
14:08Who are these people
14:09that are kind of
14:10giving you this advice
14:11or kind of teaching you
14:12these things?
14:13Well,
14:13Jamie Nolette,
14:15my fourth grade teacher,
14:16she introduced me
14:17to this guy
14:18named Al.
14:20You know,
14:20he was definitely
14:21mentoring me
14:22for a period of time.
14:27Introduced me
14:28to a couple of people
14:30and a couple of people
14:32introduced me
14:32to some more people.
14:34Yeah.
14:35Now I'm in a room
14:36with individuals
14:39that got way more money
14:41than me.
14:42Some had less money
14:44but they all
14:45was in it
14:47for the same reason.
14:48That's
14:48to gain the knowledge
14:50and the toolages
14:52of
14:52expanding
14:54their wealth.
14:56When it comes
14:57to investing,
14:58are you the kind of guy
14:59who likes to take
15:00big swings
15:00or do you kind of
15:01look towards
15:01more steady things?
15:03How would you describe
15:04your investing profile?
15:04I'm a steady type of guy.
15:06Steady returns?
15:07Steady.
15:07I don't want to
15:08take no chances.
15:09I take too many chances
15:10in the ring.
15:11So,
15:12you know,
15:12if I can
15:13keep it like this,
15:15you know,
15:16then I know
15:16it's guaranteed.
15:18Nothing's guaranteed
15:19but I know
15:20it's,
15:21you know,
15:21there.
15:22There's another guy
15:23who likes
15:23to take steady returns
15:25in Omaha.
15:26I think you know him.
15:26His name's Warren Buffett.
15:27Just having someone
15:30like that,
15:30a figure
15:30in your hometown,
15:32like,
15:32does that inspire you?
15:34Is his presence
15:35like something
15:35that you kind of
15:36look to
15:36for guidance advice?
15:38Well,
15:39you know,
15:39Warren's a
15:41great guy
15:42outside of
15:45him being a billionaire.
15:47Yeah.
15:49The advice
15:50that he gave me
15:51when I talked to him,
15:53it wasn't much
15:55but it was something,
15:56you know,
15:57and being around him
15:59is definitely
16:00motivating,
16:02you know,
16:03because you get to see
16:04how you can have
16:07everything in the world
16:08but you don't got to be,
16:10you know,
16:11out there.
16:11You can just be simple
16:13and live your life
16:15how you want to live it.
16:17So,
16:17he's definitely,
16:18you know,
16:19a person that I look up to
16:20that's
16:21surrounding himself
16:23with a lot of smart people
16:24to gain a lot.
16:27a lot.
16:28Yeah,
16:28yeah,
16:28no,
16:29guys definitely
16:30seem to have
16:31similar mentalities.
16:32One thing
16:33you're very active in
16:34is you're a real estate investor,
16:35have around
16:3680-ish properties.
16:38Why do you like
16:38investing in real estate?
16:39Why has that become
16:40such a popular vehicle
16:41for you?
16:42I think,
16:43you know,
16:43my thing is
16:44God not making
16:45any more land.
16:47So,
16:48the more you own
16:50real estate,
16:51the more you own
16:52the world.
16:54You know,
16:55when you look at
16:56all these billionaires,
16:58Bill Gates,
16:58and all these people,
16:59Bill Gates own
17:00thousands and thousands
17:02of acres in Nebraska.
17:04You know,
17:04they come and buy up
17:06all this,
17:07this land,
17:08and,
17:09you know,
17:10what,
17:11what can anybody else
17:13do with it
17:13if
17:14somebody else
17:15owns it?
17:16Yeah.
17:17Yeah.
17:17You know,
17:17so I just always
17:18believe that
17:20we all need a place
17:21to stay.
17:22That's evident.
17:24So,
17:24why not
17:26have the person
17:27that's given
17:29a place to stay
17:30be me?
17:31Yeah.
17:32No,
17:32I think that makes
17:32perfect sense.
17:33You know,
17:34among your properties,
17:34you have a lot
17:35in North Omaha.
17:37You're in Kansas City,
17:38Colorado,
17:39you've got
17:39residential houses,
17:40apartment complexes,
17:42farmland,
17:42storefront.
17:43What are you looking for
17:45when you're scouting
17:45prospective properties
17:47like,
17:47what kinds,
17:48like,
17:49what,
17:49what pieces
17:50matter to you?
17:51Well,
17:51my thing is,
17:52it depends on
17:53the location
17:54and what the location
17:56is missing
17:56or what they have
17:58that you can
17:59counter off of.
18:01You know,
18:01when I look at
18:02locations,
18:03I say,
18:03okay,
18:05this location
18:05got gas stations,
18:08it got,
18:09you know,
18:11McDonald's,
18:12Burger Kings,
18:13it's got everything
18:15around here,
18:16but it's no
18:17houses.
18:17Yeah.
18:18You know,
18:18it's a lot of
18:19jobs around here,
18:20but it's no houses
18:21and no apartments,
18:23you know,
18:23so you kind of
18:24want to put
18:25something there
18:26to make a little
18:27community
18:28and make things,
18:28you know,
18:29worth going to.
18:31Maybe you put a,
18:32put a grocery store
18:34there,
18:35you know,
18:36maybe you just put
18:37houses there,
18:37but you got to
18:38know the location
18:40that you try to
18:40invest in
18:41and then you go
18:43from there.
18:43You've had all
18:43success in the
18:44world,
18:45could live
18:45anywhere you
18:46want,
18:46you've chosen
18:47to remain in
18:47Omaha.
18:48Why do you
18:49want to remain
18:50so close to
18:50where you're
18:50from?
18:51Because I
18:52think being
18:53here at home
18:55give these kids
18:57and not just the
18:58kids,
18:59the people here
19:00hope that
19:01anything's possible.
19:03You know,
19:03I say that a lot
19:04because I really
19:05mean that.
19:05when you see
19:07all the people
19:07that came out
19:09of Omaha,
19:10Nebraska,
19:11North Omaha,
19:1224th Street,
19:14let alone,
19:16you'll be amazed
19:17how many people
19:18made it
19:19and never
19:20came back,
19:21never looked
19:22back,
19:22never tried to
19:23pull nobody
19:24up out of
19:25Omaha and
19:26try to help
19:27nobody,
19:27no nothing.
19:28It's heartbreaking.
19:30Yeah.
19:31You know,
19:31when you,
19:32when you go to
19:33these other
19:35cities,
19:36people are so
19:37proud to be
19:37where they
19:38from.
19:38Yeah.
19:39They,
19:39they wear
19:40with high
19:42regards.
19:42I'm from
19:43such and
19:43such,
19:43I'm from
19:44such and
19:44such.
19:45But
19:46unfortunately,
19:48when you
19:49come from
19:50a small
19:51town compared
19:52to those
19:53bigger cities
19:54like Omaha,
19:55sometimes people
19:56be ashamed to
19:57say where
19:58they from.
20:00So that's
20:01why I stay
20:02here.
20:02Yeah.
20:03So I can
20:03pull the ones
20:04up behind
20:05me.
20:05So I'm
20:06not the
20:07only one.
20:08Obviously,
20:08you know,
20:08like we're
20:09in your
20:09gym here.
20:10I'm curious,
20:10what kind of
20:10impact on the
20:11community do you
20:12feel you've
20:12made by
20:13remaining here,
20:14by investing
20:14in this
20:14community?
20:15Oh,
20:16tremendous
20:16impact.
20:17You know,
20:18I'm,
20:18I'm creating
20:20jobs for
20:21people around.
20:23I'm creating
20:25safe,
20:27safe
20:28environments for
20:29them to bring
20:29their kids and
20:30for them to
20:31come to as
20:31well.
20:33I'm providing
20:34shelter for
20:36people that
20:36live in my
20:37houses as
20:40well as the
20:40apartments.
20:42So everything
20:44that I'm doing
20:45in the community
20:46is not only for
20:47me, it's for
20:47them as well.
20:49Another question
20:50on Omaha's
20:51other famous
20:51resident,
20:52Warren Buffett,
20:53I should say
20:53famous, not
20:54only famous
20:55resident.
20:56You famously
20:57took a picture
20:57with him where
20:57you put him in
20:58a headlock.
20:58why did
21:00that happen?
21:01He just
21:02told me to
21:03put him in
21:03a headlock
21:04because we
21:04was about to
21:05take a picture
21:05and he was
21:06just like,
21:07all right,
21:07I got an
21:07idea.
21:09I was like,
21:10he was like,
21:11I was like,
21:11what up?
21:11He was like,
21:13let's just do
21:14something crazy,
21:14just put me
21:15in a headlock.
21:17Put you in
21:17a headlock?
21:18He was like,
21:19yeah,
21:19just put me
21:20in a headlock.
21:20So I was like,
21:21all right.
21:22So it was a
21:23good picture.
21:24Yeah, that's
21:25great.
21:25I mean,
21:25another thing
21:26you guys have
21:26in common,
21:27Buffett's known
21:27as a value
21:28investor,
21:29this sense
21:30of pragmatic
21:30frugality.
21:32You spoke
21:32to the Wall
21:33Street Journal
21:33a couple
21:33years ago
21:34and you
21:34just simplified
21:35it to,
21:36we're both
21:36cheap.
21:37Is that
21:37something you
21:38model after
21:38him?
21:38Is that
21:38from your
21:39own experience?
21:40How does
21:40that arise?
21:41I think
21:41that's just
21:42been me
21:42my whole
21:43life.
21:44I always
21:45save money
21:46thinking
21:47one day
21:50I might
21:50not be able
21:52to do
21:52what I was
21:53doing to
21:53make money
21:54or earn
21:54for a rainy
21:57day.
21:57You never
21:58know.
21:59So I
22:00would just
22:00always save
22:01money but
22:01just saving
22:03money ain't
22:04making money.
22:04I was taught
22:06to make
22:06money while
22:08you're sleeping.
22:09Your money
22:09is making
22:10money.
22:11That's how I
22:11got into
22:12financial literacy
22:14and stock
22:15markets and
22:16real estate
22:18and things
22:19like that.
22:20I have a
22:21burning question
22:21for you that
22:22I think
22:22everyone wants
22:23to know.
22:24Is there
22:24going to be
22:24a Canelo
22:25rematch?
22:25Is there
22:26a rematch
22:26clause?
22:26Is there
22:26something you're
22:27thinking about?
22:28I'm not even
22:29thinking about
22:29that right now
22:30and quite
22:31frankly I
22:32don't think
22:32it is a
22:33rematch
22:33clause and
22:34if it is
22:34nothing has
22:35been said
22:36to me about
22:37fighting him
22:38again or
22:38anything.
22:40Do you think
22:40Canelo would
22:41want to get
22:41back in the
22:41ring with you
22:42or do you
22:42think it's
22:43better for
22:43him or more
22:44lucrative to
22:45go fight
22:45elsewhere for
22:46the rest of
22:46his career?
22:46I think it
22:48would be
22:48better for
22:49him to
22:50fight somebody
22:51else because
22:52my style is
22:53just a bad
22:55matchup for
22:56him.
22:57Now financially
22:57wise I
22:59would be like
22:59yeah he
23:00should fight
23:00me but
23:00like on
23:02the outside
23:02looking in
23:03knowing boxing
23:04you can really
23:06get hurt so
23:07I would just
23:08tell him like
23:09if you're
23:10going to
23:10continue to
23:11fight don't
23:12get in the
23:13ring with a
23:14guy like me.
23:15There's a
23:16popular adage
23:17in sports that
23:18kind of gets
23:19reused over
23:19again.
23:20It's kind of
23:20cliche.
23:21Father time is
23:21undefeated.
23:23You're 38
23:23years old.
23:24We see a lot
23:25of athletes now
23:25go into the
23:26late 30s and
23:2740s and
23:27produce at a
23:27high level.
23:29How much
23:29longer do you
23:30want to do
23:30this?
23:32I don't know.
23:33No clue yet?
23:34Did beating
23:34Canelo make you
23:35think about those
23:36next steps in
23:37any way?
23:38Before Canelo
23:39I was thinking
23:40about a lot.
23:41And I'm still
23:42thinking about a
23:43lot.
23:43I just haven't
23:44made my final
23:44decision.
23:45But once I
23:47make it I'm
23:47going to make
23:48it.
23:49And I'm
23:49going to
23:49make it here
23:50soon.
23:51How important
23:51would it be to
23:52you to retire
23:53undefeated?
23:54Like greats like
23:54Blake Mayweather,
23:55Rocky Marciano.
23:56What would that
23:57mean to you?
23:58It means a lot
23:59to be able to
24:00sit there amongst
24:02a few athletes
24:03that came out of
24:05the sport of
24:06boxing and say
24:06I never lost.
24:08It's not an
24:10easy task to
24:12do.
24:12So to be able
24:14to walk next
24:16to those
24:16individuals is
24:19a blessing in
24:20its own right.
24:21Did you ever
24:21dream of fighting
24:22someone like
24:22Mayweather or
24:23Pacquiao greats
24:24who overlapped?
24:25Pacquiao, yeah.
24:26I was supposed to
24:26fight Pacquiao for
24:28years.
24:29I think there was
24:29this dangling that
24:30carrot over my
24:31head but
24:31Mayweather,
24:33no, never.
24:34Disappointed the
24:34Pacquiao thing
24:35never came through?
24:35Definitely was
24:36disappointed.
24:37Definitely was
24:38disappointed given
24:39the fights that
24:41he had over me
24:42and the fighters
24:43that they allow
24:45him to fight
24:45instead of me.
24:46I'm definitely
24:47disappointed.
24:48When you do
24:49eventually reach
24:49that point where
24:50you're hanging up
24:51the boxing gloves,
24:52what kind of goals
24:53do you have for
24:53the rest of your
24:54life?
24:54What business
24:54goals, what do
24:55you want to
24:55accomplish outside
24:56the ring once
24:57you are done
24:57with that moment
24:58in your life?
24:58I think I want
25:00to dive in
25:01real estate heavier.
25:03I think I can
25:06make some big
25:08moves in Omaha
25:09and around the
25:10country in real
25:12estate.
25:13As long as I
25:14do it right,
25:15everything will
25:17be good.
25:18The last thing
25:19I want to ask
25:19you, what do
25:20you want your
25:21legacy to be?
25:22I think when
25:23you talk about
25:25Terrence Crawford,
25:25you're going to
25:26talk about how
25:26great of a
25:27father he is.
25:29You're going to
25:29talk about how
25:30great of a
25:31boxer he was.
25:32You're going to
25:32say how humble
25:33he was.
25:35You're going to
25:35say how caring
25:36he was.
25:37what he did
25:38for the
25:39community, what
25:40he did for
25:40people that
25:41he didn't
25:41know.
25:42There's going
25:42to be a lot
25:43of things that
25:44they're going to
25:45say about
25:45Terrence Crawford
25:46and it's all
25:47going to be
25:48true.
25:48Some might
25:48not, but most
25:49of it is going
25:50to be true if
25:51we've been
25:52honest about
25:52who Terrence
25:53Crawford really
25:54is.
25:56And that's
25:57that.
25:58I'm going to
25:58let my
25:59actions with
26:03my children
26:03speak for me.
26:04Terrence Crawford
26:06thank you so
26:06much for being
26:07here today.
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