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00:00Welcome to Sorry I Didn't Low. I'm your host, Chibi Akadulu, and I'll be your florist,
00:19inhaling the sweet scent of our stories and picking the petals of progressive power from
00:24the bouquet of black brilliance. I bring you history with a touch of colour.
00:30To my right, pollinating the panel with punchlines, it's Richard Blackwood.
00:39Who's joining you tonight, Rich? To my left, this comedian often gets mistaken for clear
00:44balding and once had a disastrous run-in with royalty. It's Daniel Fox.
00:52And to my right is a man so dedicated to comedy that after 25 years, he called his new show
00:57Married to the Game. It's comedian on my bedroom, Kojo and Im.
01:05And to my left, likely to give you hay fever, it's Eddie Catton.
01:13Who's joining you, Eddie?
01:14Well, Chibi, to my right is my G, fellow Radio 1 extra DJ and a powerhouse known as your local
01:21energy provider. You'll see why as soon as she gets going. This one here is Remy Burks.
01:26Now, to my left is a man who went from being a banker to a career in comedy, but probably
01:34got heckled doing both. It's Ayshan Akbar.
01:38I like that.
01:40Welcome to you all.
01:41Remy, now as a fellow Nigerian woman, I have a bone to pick with you.
01:45If you could only eat jollof rice, sorry, Nigerian jollof rice, or a full English for the rest of your days,
01:52which would it be?
01:54Okay, so, you said just jollof rice, right?
01:57No, no, Nigerian.
01:59Yeah, okay, Nigerian jollof rice, right?
02:01You have not mentioned plantain, chicken, you have not mentioned any of the other things
02:06that come with it.
02:07So, for that reason, I'm going to say full English.
02:10Because there's a range on the plants.
02:12Come on.
02:12You have protein, fibre, carb, you know what I'm saying?
02:17You can have turkey rashes, beef, you know what I mean?
02:20Egg, you know?
02:21So, if it's jollof plus anything else you wanted, which one would you go for?
02:25You know, if I get everything that normally comes with jollof rice, then we're going with jollof.
02:29Okay.
02:29Is it mad that I prefer Ghanaian jollof rice as always?
02:32Do you know, I'm not helping myself.
02:34Remy, Remy, you must leave.
02:35Leave.
02:36Can I just say, all this jollof chat, biryani for life, baby.
02:43Right, right, go.
02:44Right, go yourself.
02:47Ayshan, you started off in private banking.
02:50I did.
02:50Was it all white, generational, wealth and gold cards?
02:53Yeah, I mean, for the clients it was, not for me.
02:55Like, one year, I had a really good year, because I'm Asian, so I'm good at maths, isn't it?
03:00So, things went really well, and then I said to my boss, listen, can I have a promotion?
03:04He was like, all right, give me five weeks, I'll come back to you with a really good offer.
03:07I was like, this is going to be sick.
03:08I want to buy a Mercedes.
03:09Things are looking up.
03:10Five weeks later, he comes to me and he says, I want to make you the UK private bank diversity champion.
03:15Oh.
03:16I'm like, yo, okay, what does this mean?
03:18He goes, you have to have a meeting with the other non-white people in the building.
03:21The only other non-white person in the building was a Mexican cleaner.
03:25LAUGHTER
03:26By the way, do I get more money?
03:28They were like, nah.
03:29No.
03:30So, yeah, it was a tough time.
03:32Daniel, you've just finished touring a podcast where you're very open about your personal life.
03:36How do people react to that?
03:39Yeah, pretty well.
03:40Recently found out that my grandmother is one of the audience members.
03:43Oh.
03:43She's quite a woke grandma, so it's quite, she's like, very woke about human rights,
03:47quite fascist about how to make a good Victoria sponge cake, but otherwise.
03:51But, um, she went to Pride recently, which was very cute,
03:55but she was talking us through what she thought the acronym LGBTQ meant.
04:00It's L for lesbian, and we were like, yes, it is, very good.
04:03And she was like, and then it's gay, and we were like, yes, and then she was like,
04:05and then it's black, and we were like, no, it's not black.
04:07No!
04:10See what you're going with, actually, like, you know,
04:12because I definitely think what she did is go,
04:14which groups need more support, and then just left everyone in.
04:17I respect that.
04:18Kojo, you are of Ghanaian heritage.
04:21Yeah.
04:22But you did grow up in a Caribbean household.
04:24Yeah.
04:24What was that like?
04:25In an African household, like, when you got in trouble,
04:28the punishments were very physical,
04:29so you had to kind of, like, do squats and stuff like that.
04:31Oh, yeah.
04:32Caribbean household, they just, you know, called the police.
04:35And then one time, I got in trouble in the Caribbean household,
04:37they called the police, and then they gave them the same punishment as me.
04:52It's just one of those things where I have both cultures,
04:56you know what I mean?
04:56So, jollof, rice, rice and peas, I'll have it all.
04:59With it up for our amazing guests, everybody.
05:02APPLAUSE
05:03Time for a round called This Was When.
05:10For this one, we've dug deep into the archives.
05:13I'll show our teams a photo from a moment in time,
05:16and they just need to tell me what's going on.
05:18OK, teams, what's the story here?
05:22It's definitely...
05:24Did I turn off the iron?
05:25LAUGHTER
05:26Why?
05:27LAUGHTER
05:28Eddie?
05:29This isn't a dance hall rave.
05:31You know when you try to catch that wine,
05:32and then she freezes, and she looks at her friends,
05:34is he nice?
05:35LAUGHTER
05:36LAUGHTER
05:37Daniel?
05:38Beyonce realising that wasn't a fart.
05:42LAUGHTER
05:43APPLAUSE
05:44Do you want to know the actual answer?
05:46Eddie?
05:46This is, of course, during the Grammys,
05:49when Beyonce finally wins Album of the Year,
05:51and she acts shocked.
05:53Do you know what the album was?
05:54The album was...
05:55Yes.
05:56..Cowboy Carter.
05:57Come on.
05:57You are correct.
05:59This is the moment that Beyonce shocked not only herself,
06:02but many others by becoming the first black woman in history
06:05to win Best Country Album at the 2025 Grammy Awards.
06:10APPLAUSE
06:10Can you tell me what's going on in this image?
06:15Yeah?
06:16Daniel?
06:17This is the first four-way interracial marriage.
06:20Um...
06:21LAUGHTER
06:22Presenting their beautiful daughter.
06:24LAUGHTER
06:25The black lady's asking,
06:27can we call him Winston?
06:28LAUGHTER
06:29Layers to that, there's layers.
06:31BUZZER
06:32Is this the original Spice Girls with baby there?
06:35LAUGHTER
06:37APPLAUSE
06:38Yeah, that picture.
06:41You know the baddest part, right,
06:43is that this picture was taken so far back,
06:45all those women are in their 20s.
06:47LAUGHTER
06:49You know what?
06:51Why do they always look extra old?
06:53That was the thing back then.
06:54It was a different time.
06:55That is...
06:56That was a young chick.
06:57LAUGHTER
06:58Isha...
06:59Is she the first ever black midwife in the NHS?
07:03That is correct.
07:04APPLAUSE
07:05This was when Nurse Daphne Steele
07:07became the first black matron in the NHS.
07:10Overseeing 450 births,
07:13she didn't just deliver babies, she delivered history.
07:16APPLAUSE
07:17OK, can you tell me what's happening here?
07:22Isha?
07:23Is this the first white man to gentrify Peckham?
07:27LAUGHTER
07:29Daniel?
07:30This is actually a really popular video online,
07:32but it's a different still.
07:33The usual thumbnail is the older white guy sat on a couch
07:36and then the other guys are all gathered around him in the line.
07:39LAUGHTER
07:40Very popular.
07:41So you're the black in the LGBT.
07:44LAUGHTER
07:46Are the black guys saying,
07:49we know you're trying to sneak a bottle into this club?
07:51Why's he got such a big bulge next to him?
07:53LAUGHTER
07:55What is that?
07:56Remy, is the white man asking them
07:59if they've heard of Stevie Wonder?
08:01LAUGHTER
08:03Eddie?
08:04See, many of us have gone through this experience
08:06in a Western club.
08:08The dress code is perfect and the guy will still come and say,
08:11sorry, fellas, wrong hats.
08:12Yeah.
08:13LAUGHTER
08:14Eddie?
08:16It feels like it was before the war or something, huh?
08:19So this is literally these three guys saying,
08:21we don't want to do this, but just tell us what we need to do.
08:23LAUGHTER
08:24I'm going to give you a point.
08:25I'm going to give you a point.
08:26This was when Oliver Stanley,
08:28the Secretary of State for Colonies during the Second World War,
08:32visited the Jamaican Royal Air Force volunteers
08:34who were stationed in Yorkshire.
08:36This, guys, is not AI.
08:38They were black people who actually fought in the war.
08:43Yes!
08:44APPLAUSE
08:46And the winner of that round is...
08:48Eddie's team!
08:49Come on!
08:54Our next game is Blackity Blank.
09:00Now, that sound has been remixed just enough
09:02to avoid the lawyers knocking on my door.
09:04LAUGHTER
09:05In this round, I'm going to read our team's real-life headlines
09:08that are featured on the front pages of some of the newspapers
09:11we know, love and, in some cases, hate.
09:14The headlines are missing several words
09:16and all our teams need to do is fill in the blanks.
09:18Richard, you're up first.
09:20Africans have become the blank to blank.
09:23So...
09:24Africans have become the most beautiful thing
09:26to have come out of the UK since the Caribbeans came.
09:30Oi!
09:31Oi!
09:32Oi!
09:33Africans have become the first human beings
09:35to be turned into a flavour of Lynx deodorant.
09:38Mad!
09:39Mad!
09:40Mad!
09:41Mad!
09:42Facts!
09:43He ate wrong!
09:44Facts!
09:45He ate wrong!
09:46But they've got the sound one!
09:47No, I do like that one!
09:48Thank you, actually.
09:49Africans have become the new Jamaicans...
09:55Oh!
09:56..to white people.
09:59Yeah.
10:00Yeah.
10:01What?
10:02Stop bringing your family members to the show!
10:04Uh, no.
10:06No?
10:07No.
10:08The headline was...
10:09Africans have become the solution
10:11to the UK's elderly care crisis.
10:14Oh, we were so close.
10:15You were.
10:16In 2021, the British government changed visa rules
10:19to tackle staff shortages in the care sector,
10:22similar to the Caribbean nurses
10:24who were crucial in saving the NHS.
10:26African care workers are now playing crucial roles
10:29in social care.
10:31So, any bigots watching might want to remember
10:33where they've stuck with their parents
10:34before running their mouths about immigration.
10:39Eddie, it's over to your team.
10:40Rafa gives out 4,000 blank in Lewisham ahead of blank.
10:45I like this one, I think.
10:47Lewisham, as well, is the key, key word here.
10:49But what do they give out?
10:50Because I'm from West London, so you're from South.
10:52What do they give out to Lewisham?
10:53And I'm from East.
10:54You pass through there.
10:55You don't do too much.
10:56You know what I mean?
10:57You just...
10:58You know what I mean?
10:59You don't hang back.
11:00You know what I mean?
11:01You just go through.
11:02So Rafa gives out 4,000 nods in Lewisham.
11:04Yeah!
11:05Black people are loving it.
11:06Do you know the answer to this one,
11:07but I'm going to let you guys go.
11:08Yeah?
11:09Rafa...
11:10I do, because it's my bedroom that did it.
11:11Oh.
11:12Hold tight, hold tight.
11:13Rafa?
11:14Rafa?
11:15Rafa?
11:16Rafa gives out 4,000 condoms.
11:17Oh!
11:18Oh!
11:19Oh!
11:20Oh!
11:21You know what?
11:22If that's the case, it is his bedroom.
11:25Rafa gives out 4,000 hair follicles in Lewisham.
11:28Very popular idea.
11:29You should have went down there.
11:30He was busy on the wrong day.
11:31I was late, I was late.
11:32Rafa gives out 4,000...
11:34I think it was turkeys in Lewisham ahead of Christmas.
11:35Because I believe it was Feki.
11:36Oh, yes!
11:37Whole point, whole point.
11:38Yeah!
11:39The full headline was Rafa gives out 4,000 turkeys in Lewisham ahead of Christmas.
11:53The headline from 2023 was about grime rapper Feki, who felt it was important to give back to his community having grown up poor.
11:59And the winner of that round is...
12:00Eddie's team!
12:01It's time for the adverts now, but before we leave, here's a question for you.
12:14Which famous footballer does this impressive tribute of black history belong to?
12:19See you in a few.
12:20Welcome back to You Sorry I Didn't Know.
12:35Before the break, I asked you which footballer has this incredible tribute to black history tattooed on his back.
12:41The answer is Andre Gray.
12:44After going on a journey to learn more about black history, Andre was inspired to create this masterpiece.
12:51Apparently there's some revolutionaries on there, but all I can see is muscle.
12:56And now it's time for our next round, where we jump in our metaphorical time machine and visit history that the curriculum forgot.
13:03Let's go black in time!
13:05In this round, with the help of their teammates, Eddie and Richard must pinpoint important historical dates.
13:19Points go to the teams closest to the correct date.
13:22Tonight's theme is education.
13:24First up, your question is, what year did the University of Oxford admit their first black student?
13:32Richard.
13:33Dan, I would confirm, but I don't believe you know.
13:36I think I might know.
13:37Go on, Dan, talk to me.
13:38I think it's like early, I feel like it might be like 1860, like 1850, 1860.
13:43So you reckon we literally came out of slaves straight into university?
13:48I reckon you're right. 18, what did you say, Dan?
13:51I think that 1850.
13:52So around here, I'm going to say 18...
13:5555.
13:5655.
13:57And his team.
13:58Is this officially?
13:59Officially?
14:00Yeah, yeah, yeah.
14:01Yeah, because you know that some people were going to people's uni, sitting in the lecture,
14:04but they don't, they haven't enrolled, but they're still getting the education.
14:07Yeah, yeah.
14:08That's it.
14:09I think it's probably a bit later than that, because I don't know whether Oxford University,
14:13given how close slavery was then, would have been that keen for a black student.
14:18Straight away.
14:19Straight that soon.
14:20That seems...
14:21If Richard Emmerlott said, what, 1855?
14:23Mm.
14:24I reckon it's about 15, 20 years after, personally.
14:27I reckon it might have been just before that.
14:30Oh, you reckon, yeah.
14:31Yeah.
14:321820?
14:33So what...
14:341753.
14:35Absolutely.
14:37I reckon 1840.
14:39Let's do it.
14:40Go ahead, go ahead.
14:41You got to do what you got to do.
14:43OK.
14:44OK, next up.
14:45When was the first novel published by a black woman?
14:48Eddie, you're first.
14:50I'm going to go with 1830.
14:54Ooh.
14:55So you're thinking before they're admitting?
14:57Yeah.
14:58Yeah, yeah.
14:59Because there would have been a wonderful history of oracy in Africa.
15:02Come on.
15:03And they would have, like, said beautiful stories, someone would have captured it.
15:05And it would have been long before they were admitted into Oxford, I reckon.
15:08So, yeah, I'm with you.
15:10So, 1830?
15:11Yeah.
15:12Go on, Eddie.
15:13Richard's team.
15:14I think the first fiction novel by any woman is, like, late 1700s.
15:24So, to then be, like, a fiction novel by a black woman, it's going to probably be a bit later.
15:30I think it was, like, 1780 that the first female fiction writer was.
15:35Do you not hear how eloquent and articulate he is?
15:37He knows.
15:38What?
15:39Yeah, but, yeah, but don't get Jedi mind tricked by that.
15:41Yeah.
15:42Yeah.
15:43You need the right answer, brother.
15:44I don't want it to sound like the right answer.
15:46No, but you know, but you...
15:47This is how they colonised us.
15:49That's what they did.
15:51It sounded clever.
15:53And we were like, yo, oh, my days.
15:56And you stopped because you still sell black people's hair products back to us.
15:59Right?
16:00LAUGHTER
16:01As the former dean of Oxford University.
16:05Yes!
16:06I don't know.
16:07Like, 1860s, maybe?
16:09I think I'm around that area.
16:10I think it's definitely later.
16:12What are you saying, Rich?
16:13I might go from 1860 plus.
16:151865.
16:16No, I'm going to go 1870.
16:181870, yeah?
16:19Yeah, I'm going to say that from there onwards.
16:22It gave them nearly 15 years to go, OK, they're intelligent.
16:26Let's read their books.
16:27LAUGHTER
16:28Next question.
16:30What year was the first university-level institution in Africa established?
16:34Richard.
16:35Rich, have you been to Africa at all?
16:37That's not important.
16:39I'm just asking.
16:40That was just a question, my brother.
16:42So, it's the first university-level...
16:45Yeah.
16:46OK.
16:47Yeah.
16:48So, it's around here?
16:49I think it's later, personally.
16:50And he's looking this way.
16:52He's saying...
16:53LAUGHTER
16:54I believe this is a bit of a red herring trick question.
16:57LAUGHTER
16:58Oh, my God.
16:59No, go with me here, right?
17:01I believe we would actually like to think it was closer to what we class as modern times.
17:06That's true.
17:07But if we're going from the fact that Africa is a place that we all originate from...
17:11Mmm.
17:12It's safe to say that they were ahead.
17:14Remember, they built the pyramids way back.
17:15They were advanced before we even knew anything.
17:19So, what are you saying?
17:211810?
17:22I reckon it's around here.
17:23I think 18, like, 20.
17:24Yeah, I think it's around here.
17:26I think the rest of the world caught on maybe 100 years later.
17:30Yeah.
17:31I'm going to place it round about here.
17:321818.
17:33That's how much I believe in you.
17:34I'm cool with that people.
17:35Eddie!
17:36It doesn't matter whether you believe in us or not.
17:38These things were happening.
17:39Number one.
17:40And by the way, whilst you guys were singing Feed the World, we were actually eating Jell-O-Fries
17:44laughing at you.
17:45Look at these people.
17:46At these people.
17:47Feed the World.
17:48Do they know it's Christmas time?
17:50I think we do.
17:51LAUGHTER
17:52You took the money, though, didn't you?
17:54LAUGHTER
17:55We took the money and we used it to travel back to the UK.
18:02LAUGHTER
18:03So, here's the fact.
18:05Right, first of all, I think Morocco.
18:07Morocco, yeah.
18:08Had the earliest university.
18:09Yeah.
18:10Muslim women.
18:11Mathematics was established in Africa.
18:13Yes.
18:14My brother.
18:15Very well-educated people.
18:16It was early 1800s, but it was...
18:17100%.
18:18Yeah, it was in Morocco, set by a Muslim woman.
18:20Yeah, yeah.
18:21First university ever.
18:22Yes.
18:23And I'm going to go, kind of, 1810s.
18:25Me too.
18:26Yeah.
18:27What do you mean?
18:2818...
18:29Just put it on the 1800s.
18:30Between those two.
18:31Yeah.
18:32Just before 1810.
18:33189.
18:341810.
18:35It's given seven.
18:36Yeah.
18:371807.
18:38Right.
18:39Hey.
18:40Let's see how many you got right.
18:41First up, it was 1873 when Christian Frederick Cole from Sierra Leone was admitted to Oxford.
18:48Oh, Sierra Leone.
18:491873.
18:50How the body.
18:51Is she there?
18:53Yeah.
18:54He became the first black African to receive a degree in 1877.
18:58Oh.
18:59Closest is...
19:00Richard's team.
19:01Oh.
19:02Good job done.
19:03Next.
19:04Next.
19:05The first known novel by a black American woman was between 1853 and 1861.
19:11Hmm.
19:121853...
19:131854.
19:14Come on, don't do us nicely.
19:15Let's put it about.
19:17The novel titled The Bond Woman's Narrative was written by Hannah Crafts as believed to
19:22be one of the first novels written by a fugitive slave.
19:25We're going to give you guys both a point.
19:27Woo!
19:28Thank you very much.
19:29On to the first university level institution in Africa.
19:33This was established in 1827.
19:36Oh.
19:37Yes.
19:38Oh.
19:39You're going to give us both a point even though I'm closer, yeah?
19:42The university called Fura Bay College was based in Sierra Leone.
19:46Oh.
19:47Until the Second World War, Fura Bay was the only alternative for West Africans who wanted a
19:52university degree.
19:53After that round, the winner is...
19:56Richard's team!
20:04We're almost out of time on tonight's show, but not before we dive into our final round,
20:09general chopperness.
20:10In this quickfire round, I'll fling questions that our teams like hotcakes, and they can only
20:16buzz in after I've finished the question.
20:19Let's begin.
20:20Who was the first and youngest African American to be nominated for Best Director at the Oscars?
20:26Eddie.
20:27John Singleton.
20:28Correct.
20:29What is the name given to Nigeria's billion dollar film industry?
20:32Eddie.
20:33Nollywood.
20:34Correct.
20:35Which former Arsenal player is considered the greatest striker and all-time goalscorer?
20:39Remy.
20:40Who was the first black woman to win Book of the Year in 2020 with Queenie?
20:47Ishan.
20:48Chimamanda Ngozi Aditya?
20:50Incorrect.
20:51Remy.
20:52Candy Scotty Williams.
20:53Absolutely right.
20:54True or false?
20:55Nigeria has a popular festival where people throw tomatoes at each other.
21:00Ishan.
21:01False.
21:02Correct.
21:03Which three-pointed symbol regularly featured in Jean-Michel Basquiat's art?
21:08Ishan.
21:09A crown.
21:10Correct.
21:11Which city the 1981 riots against police brutality start in?
21:15Remy.
21:16Richard's hometown Brixton.
21:17Correct.
21:18And at the end of that round, the winner is Eddie's team.
21:26Which means the winner of tonight's show is Eddie's team.
21:31Thank you to tonight's guests, Kojo Annim, Daniel Fox, team leader Richard Blackwood,
21:45Remy Berg, Eshan Akbar, and team leader Eddie Caddy.
21:54Before we go, here's a quote from activist James Baldwin.
21:58Know from whence you came.
22:00If you know whence you came, there are absolutely no limitations to where you can go.
22:05Beautiful.
22:06Goodnight.
22:08Thanks so much.
22:09Today we have a great time and thank you for joining us.
22:10Take care, bye-bye.
22:11Alright.
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