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The story of the 1974 kidnap of teenage heiress Patty Hearst, which set off one of the most bizarre episodes in recent American history.
With GUERRILLA: THE TAKING OF PATTY HEARST, filmmaker Robert Stone brings into sharp focus the mood of the early 1970s, a mood that inspired the formation of the first radical domestic terrorist cell to become a media sensation in the United States, the Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA). The SLA wreaked havoc on the West Coast and our national psyche for over two years, leaving behind a rich trove of paranoid recordings and scores of violent acts, including the kidnapping of heiress Patty Hearst who would subsequently join the SLA under the alias "Tania." As much as thriller as it is a document of the times, GUERRILLA brings a striking, shocking moment in our nation's history back to light.
With GUERRILLA: THE TAKING OF PATTY HEARST, filmmaker Robert Stone brings into sharp focus the mood of the early 1970s, a mood that inspired the formation of the first radical domestic terrorist cell to become a media sensation in the United States, the Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA). The SLA wreaked havoc on the West Coast and our national psyche for over two years, leaving behind a rich trove of paranoid recordings and scores of violent acts, including the kidnapping of heiress Patty Hearst who would subsequently join the SLA under the alias "Tania." As much as thriller as it is a document of the times, GUERRILLA brings a striking, shocking moment in our nation's history back to light.
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00:00:00My name is Sin Q and to my comrades I am known
00:00:30as Sin.
00:00:40I am a black man and a representative of black people.
00:00:45I hold the rank of General Field Marshal in the United Federated Forces of the Symbanese
00:00:51Liberation Army.
00:00:52My name is Faiza and I am a Freedom Fighter in the Information Intelligence Unit of the
00:00:58United Federated Forces of the Symbanese Liberation Army.
00:01:02Greetings to the people.
00:01:03This is Tico speaking.
00:01:05This is Yolanda speaking.
00:01:07Greetings of profound love to our comrades in the concentration camps of fascist America
00:01:12and to all the children.
00:01:14This is Information Intelligence Unit 4.
00:01:17My name is Jelena and I am a General in the Symbanese Liberation Army.
00:01:22We have declared revolutionary war upon you, the enemy of the people.
00:01:27Step to the fascist insect that preys upon the life of the people.
00:01:31Mom, Dad, I'm with a combat unit that's armed with automatic weapons.
00:01:44I grew up in Pensacola, Florida, up on the Gulf of Mexico.
00:01:45It was the typical kid's life at that time.
00:01:46I was born in 1949.
00:01:51I was born in 1949, so I was growing up in the 50s.
00:02:04I grew up watching Zorro and the Swamp Fox.
00:02:09It was the typical kid's life at that time.
00:02:12I was born in 1949, so I was growing up in the 50s.
00:02:17I grew up watching Zorro and the Swamp Fox, you know, which was about the American Revolution.
00:02:24Robin Hood.
00:02:25I mean, all these tales of swashbucklers and people who were fighting against the government.
00:02:35I really thought that I would end up being an astronaut.
00:02:39I went to the University of Florida for engineering.
00:02:42I thought that would be my way to get to be an astronaut.
00:02:51When I got to college, I ran into a whole new world.
00:03:02The thing that you remember growing up was, we saved the world from Hitler.
00:03:07And then you turn around and we're being Hitler.
00:03:13You see this every night, and it's just like, oh my God, you know?
00:03:17It's like, what's going on here?
00:03:19There has been and continues to be opposition to the war in Vietnam, on the campuses, and also in the nation.
00:03:31As far as this kind of activity is concerned, we expect it.
00:03:37However, under no circumstances will I be affected whatever by it.
00:03:43I was pretty militant. I helped shut down the college because I was a student then at UC Berkeley.
00:03:55It was almost like a kid that decided their parents were just disgusting people.
00:04:11I know that's a weird way to sum it up, but we just felt like there was no future.
00:04:20It was way too extreme.
00:04:23The difference between what was really going on and what was bandied about in school.
00:04:29I mean, we were just running rampant throughout the world and just lying like hell about it.
00:04:40And then Kent State happened, and I was shocked just like everybody else.
00:04:48Especially everyone on all the campuses.
00:04:55Fire on us, you fucking kids! Why don't you fire on us?
00:04:58Open fire what you didn't care!
00:05:01Then I felt like, in no uncertain terms, that people like me were being declared the enemy
00:05:08by the government of the United States.
00:05:11I don't think that most of the young people involved who considered themselves part of the counterculture
00:05:17saw themselves so much as revolutionaries or renegades as people think they did,
00:05:24or as the establishment kept accusing them of being.
00:05:27They actually saw themselves, if they did not admit it as such, as patriots.
00:05:33Most everybody that I ever knew that was a radical were go-getters in high school.
00:05:37I was a national science finalist.
00:05:40I had a gigantic IQ and all this, and most everybody did.
00:05:45You know, it was all these high achievers. We were just shocked.
00:05:48It just got to the point where I felt like this thing is totally out of control.
00:06:04The country is totally out of control. It's being run by criminals.
00:06:07It's being run by just total right-wingers who have no respect for the Constitution or anything else.
00:06:14That's the way I felt when I left and went to California.
00:06:19I didn't necessarily think that I would ever live to see a revolution.
00:06:33It seemed like it was more revolutionary, you know, in the late 60s than it was by the time I got to Berkeley.
00:06:41We were pulling out of Vietnam. A lot of people were going, you know, everything's over now.
00:06:52We'll go back to college.
00:06:54I mean, it wasn't over at all.
00:06:56The same stuff was still going on.
00:06:57You know, the same criminals were still murderers and stuff were still running the government.
00:07:04You know.
00:07:14Preserve and protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
00:07:18So help me God. So help me God.
00:07:28I couldn't believe it.
00:07:29That Nixon got re-elected in 72.
00:07:32I couldn't believe that this guy got re-elected.
00:07:36I just felt like, you know, we got to keep something going.
00:07:39One of the things I did that other people got involved in was show these films, political films, about what was going on in the world.
00:07:51The events in this film actually took place in a South American country. State of Siege.
00:08:13One of the groups that I was really, you know, I really liked, and I guess it's back to the old Robin Hood and Zorro thing, was the two Pomoros down in Uruguay.
00:08:23State of Siege, I did see that.
00:08:26If you consider yourself a revolutionary, if you want to change things, and I thought, well, these guys got it figured out.
00:08:32And Che, of course, I thought he was great. He was from Bolivia. He was down in Cuba helping the Cubans.
00:08:38Che! Che!
00:08:40Superhero to some. Villain to others. His battle cry is heard around the world. Che lives.
00:08:47Only Sharif, with his dramatic force and amazing physical likeness to Che, could play the part.
00:08:54It's funny how all these things happen, but that's where Willie and I met Bill and Emily and Joe.
00:09:02Is it one of these films?
00:09:08Willie was kind of like the catalyst. Willie was the one that all these different people met.
00:09:24Willie was like the common denominator.
00:09:29Willie studied anthropology at Berkeley, and it was actually through Berkeley that he got into going to prisons.
00:09:34It was from some class, some anthropology class.
00:09:41I think that my and the people around me that I knew had such a total distrust to this country at that point that, you know, San Quentin, Vietnam was the same thing.
00:09:53I was interested in the prisons, actually. And when I found out that Willie and them were going, then I went.
00:10:05So, Willie came, you know, I think Willie's the one who started, but I mean, there were discussions about, well, you know, what about it?
00:10:11We know there are people in prison that we don't think should be there, you know?
00:10:16You know, what are we willing to do about that, you know?
00:10:19Yeah, we can visit them. We can try to get people to, you know, donate money.
00:10:23We can try to find lawyers to help them and stuff, but what else are we willing to do, you know?
00:10:28And there was talk about, you know, what if somebody escaped, you know, or what if we could help somebody escape, you know?
00:10:33And, you know, so we started talking along those lines.
00:10:40By then, every black prisoner in California prisons was regarded in one way or another as a political prisoner,
00:10:48which had a bit of truth connected to it, but a whole lot of romantic bullshit as well.
00:10:53The idea that made black prisoners at the time so-called political prisoners was that they had been denied sufficient opportunity in society
00:11:06and had reached out to take their share.
00:11:12De Vries wasn't just some criminal. I mean, he wasn't some guy who was just like some pimp or some dope dealer from day one.
00:11:21De Vries had been married, he had kids, he worked full-time.
00:11:25It's just, I think he couldn't live the American dream, the thing you're seeing on TV.
00:11:31He couldn't do it just by working.
00:11:33So he also became a thief.
00:11:38You know, I liked the guy. I liked him.
00:11:42Willie took De Vries over to Ms. Moon, Ms. Moon's house, to hide him out.
00:11:57He got transferred over to Nancy Perry's.
00:12:00So De Vries and Nancy and Ms. Moon, they were living out in Concord.
00:12:10You got your very own escaped convict? I mean, come on.
00:12:12I mean, if there was status in knowing black political prisoners, there was one hell of a lot of status within the so-called revolutionaries
00:12:18and actually be able to hide out an escapee, who would then prove to be, you know, something more than just an escapee.
00:12:27I think that was the beginning of it.
00:12:30Probably him and Ms. Moon were the two first members, I would think.
00:12:34Then Russ Little, you know, knew him.
00:12:37I know people want to make De Vries a leader or some kind of Manson figure or something like that, but that's just not my experience.
00:12:50It became obvious to us that, you know, what we were really doing was that we were like forming our own little group
00:12:59to be able to respond to things and be able to do things that were illegal.
00:13:04Now this forest is wide.
00:13:08Can shelter and clothe and feed a band of good determined men, good swordsmen, good archers, good fighters?
00:13:13Are you with me?
00:13:23We familiarize ourselves with weapons.
00:13:26You know, we bought weapons.
00:13:28They weren't militant in any way or, in fact, most of them had decent personalities
00:13:34and nice people.
00:13:36I mean, we didn't have some great plan.
00:13:38We weren't going to like, well, now we'll take the South in 75 and then we'll move into the Midwest in 76.
00:13:46I mean, we didn't, you know, this wasn't, we didn't think we were Mao out there with the Red Army.
00:13:50We practiced, sure.
00:13:51We practiced at the gun rangers just like everybody else practiced.
00:13:55Our officers arrived immediately and, uh, both Mr. Blackburn and Dr. Forster were transported to Highland Hospital in Oven,
00:13:58uh, where, uh, Dr. Forster, uh, was pronounced deceased.
00:13:59And, uh, both Mr. Blackburn and Dr. Forster were transported to Highland Hospital in Oven,
00:14:03uh, where, uh, Dr. Forster, uh, was pronounced deceased.
00:14:04The murder of Marcus Forster, who was the school superintendent in Oakland,
00:14:06uh, who was the school superintendent in Oakland,
00:14:08uh, where, uh, Dr. Forster, uh, was pronounced deceased.
00:14:10The murder of Marcus Forster, who was the school superintendent in Oakland, was one of these appalling acts that made no sense whatsoever.
00:14:23Here was the first black school superintendent in the house in Oakland,
00:14:27uh, where Dr. Forster, uh, was pronounced deceased.
00:14:29The murder of Marcus Forster, who was the school superintendent in Oakland,
00:14:33was one of these appalling acts that made no sense whatsoever.
00:14:37Here was the first black school superintendent in the history of Oakland, a good man, suddenly gunned down.
00:14:47Who actually pulled the trigger that killed Foster was Ms. Moon.
00:14:57Nancy was supposed to shoot Blackburn.
00:15:02She kind of botched that to freeze and ended up shooting him with a shotgun.
00:15:07If I recall correctly, I was about to leave the office one day when I stopped to check my mailbox.
00:15:16I looked in, and there was this communique sent from the Symbionese Liberation Army saying that they had assassinated Foster.
00:15:26I remember being struck by the fact that they said we used cyanide-tipped bullets.
00:15:31I mean, the whole thing sounded ridiculous.
00:15:33Symbionese Liberation Army killing the black school superintendent.
00:15:37Who were these people?
00:15:38We thought for sure it was just some lunatic right-wing fringe.
00:15:43And we just figured Symbionese was like some, you know, white farmers in Rhodesia or something.
00:15:52My name is Faiza, and I am a freedom fighter in an information intelligence unit of the United Federated Forces of the Symbionese Liberation Army.
00:16:00I try to use my mind and my imagination to uncover facts so that when the SLA attacks it will be in the right place.
00:16:09I remember saying, why? This guy, why would you kill a black guy?
00:16:14Jesus Christ, man. It's like, you know, there's black people being killed all over the place, man.
00:16:19If you're going to kill somebody, why in the world would it be him?
00:16:22And as far as De Vries was concerned, Foster was the front man for some just horrendous police apparatus that was set up.
00:16:32The issue was ID for high school students.
00:16:42And the funny thing is, is everybody today that's been even mildly associated with the SLA, just about everyone has kids and all of us want those IDs.
00:16:52That's the funny thing.
00:17:02Stay away from the defendants. Stay on the way of the deputy. Thank you.
00:17:10Ramiro and Russell Little were taken into custody two nights ago when they exchanged shots with a Concord policeman.
00:17:16Before the day was over, Joseph Ramiro had been accused of the murder of Oakland School's chief, Dr. Marcus Foster.
00:17:22They found us in the van. Joe was in a shootout with the cop and everything.
00:17:26As far as they're concerned, man, we're armed and dangerous revolutionaries.
00:17:30Within less than 48 hours, we were in San Quentin prison.
00:17:34I mean, I'd never even been arrested before.
00:17:37Ramiro, at the time we were investigating, we regarded him as their armorer.
00:17:42That is, someone who took care of the weapons.
00:17:44And Little was more of a logistical support person.
00:17:47He was close to De Vries and would have been, I think, aware of whatever decision was made to kill Foster.
00:18:00We found Mr. Little's identification at the Sutherland address in Concord that we were working on.
00:18:16We've identified him by witnesses at that location.
00:18:19We also found a map of the scene of the murder at the open public schools showing the location where Dr. Foster hadn't been killed.
00:18:28And the map was identified by the word ambush across the top.
00:18:31Has your investigation uncovered any evidence as to the size of this Liberation Army?
00:18:36No.
00:18:37The only thing I can say is that it has grown day by day.
00:18:42Everybody saw us together all the time.
00:18:44I mean, after we got arrested, man, they were totally tied to us, you know.
00:18:53At that point, you only have two choices.
00:18:55Either just drop out of everything and disappear or, you know, go into hiding and try to figure out what to do next.
00:19:03And that's what they did.
00:19:06They had massive files on all the heads of all the big international corporations who were involved in overthrowing Chile and everything else that was going on.
00:19:18They were gathering information on all that.
00:19:21They just had some massive investigative research thing going on.
00:19:26The SLA, in its formative time at that point, was looking for targets.
00:19:33Emily Harris worked in the registrar's office at UC Berkeley.
00:19:39So they had a pretty fair knowledge of who was at Berkeley.
00:19:45And they were looking for the right one.
00:19:48There's been a big kidnapping on the West Coast.
00:20:07The victim is Patricia Hurst, the daughter of newspaper executive Randolph Hurst and a granddaughter of the legendary William Randolph Hurst.
00:20:14Miss Hurst, newspaper heiress and daughter of Randolph Hurst, managing editor of the San Francisco Examiner, is a University of California sophomore.
00:20:24She screamed when the men burst in and started beating her fiancee, 26-year-old Stephen Weed.
00:20:29The young heiress was forced into the trunk of a white car.
00:20:33Her abductors, armed with pistols and a rifle, fired a hail of bullets as they sped away, followed by a second vehicle.
00:20:39Police say the whole thing was carried out with commando-like precision.
00:20:44They said absolutely nothing. They were very militaristic.
00:20:48They had it so well planned that they needed to say almost nothing to each other.
00:20:54The national media immediately focused on it as a kidnapping case and then understood, you know, the revolutionary aspects of it.
00:21:11But in effect what they did was park outside Randolph Hurst's mansion.
00:21:17It was the only place to go.
00:21:20And so they made a story of it to some degree.
00:21:23So I'd get calls in the morning saying, who's there?
00:21:29Well, two's here and so is four and so is five. I'm seven.
00:21:33Well, you better hang around.
00:21:35And so no one left because the other was there.
00:21:38We had the same questions that everybody else had.
00:21:43Where is this thing going to go? Who are these people? What do they want?
00:21:49The United Federated Forces of the Symbionese Liberation Army, armed with cyanide loaded weapons, served an arrest warrant upon Patricia Campbell Hurst.
00:22:00All communications from this court must be published in full in all newspapers and all other forms of the media.
00:22:07Failure to do so will endanger the safety of the prisoner.
00:22:11Should any attempt be made by authorities to rescue the prisoner or to arrest or harm any SLA elements, the prisoner is to be executed.
00:22:19And in capital letters under that is death to the fascist insect that preys upon the life of the people.
00:22:28We heard this stuff. We were locked down in the adjustment center in San Quentin.
00:22:39And all this stuff hit the media and we just couldn't believe it.
00:22:44The heat on us was bad enough. After that happened, man, it was just really a nightmare.
00:22:49We are now the SLA personified, the premier anti-government terrorists.
00:22:59At that point, they stuck us up on death row in the strip cells up there and did all kinds of shit.
00:23:06You know, I mean, put us in the gas chamber, did, you know, everything they could think of.
00:23:16But we weren't going to start changing our tune. We figured we were dead anyway. Why should we snivel our way out of it?
00:23:25Do you have any feelings about your son being moved to death row at San Quentin?
00:23:30Well, I think it was very silly. I mean, under the Constitution, you're innocent and found guilty.
00:23:35You was in the hearing he hadn't even been brought to trial. So what would you say?
00:23:39Wouldn't you say it was a very silly thing to do?
00:23:42We had read about this and watched movies about it. Now we got to be in Attica, you know, as revolutionaries, no less.
00:23:54Now you talk about State of Siege in the movie, for example. I mean, that's the way the SLA kind of envisioned it.
00:24:01The kidnap was meant as a prisoner swap. They meant, frankly, to grab Patricia Hurston, traitor for Russell Little and Joe Romero.
00:24:11What we received in the mail today appears to me to be a seven-page statement from the SLA, plus a tape recording which reports to be somebody from the SLA and also the voice of Patricia Hurst.
00:24:27And according to the demands which we'll outline here, it says that all of these things must be publicized in full, which is what we're doing right now.
00:24:36We knew they weren't about to release us because they had Patty Hurst.
00:24:42They realize they're not going to get a prisoner exchange. The next best thing they can do is to create some kind of enormous act. So that's the food giveaway.
00:24:58We have heard it said that Mr. Hurst wants to save his daughter. We want to save all the children and people. Each Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday for four successive weeks, each person with one of the listed cards can go to publicized stores and pick up their food.
00:25:18The meat, vegetables and dairy products must be of top quality and an ample supply during all-store hours.
00:25:24No, and it's as outrageous as they can think of it. I mean, they want the supermarkets emptied and food thrown into the streets. I mean, that's really what it amounted to.
00:25:34And what we're going to play next as per instructions from the SLA is a tape recording from the SLA, which purports to contain the voice of the kidnap victim, Patricia Hurst.
00:25:50Hi, Mom. Mom, Dad, I'm okay. I'm with a combat unit that's armed with automatic weapons. And these people aren't just a bunch of nuts.
00:26:12They've been really honest with me, but they're perfectly willing to die for what they're doing. And I want to get out of here, but the only way I'm going to is if we do it their way. And I just hope that you'll do what they say, Dad, and just do it quickly.
00:26:37And I mean, I hope that this puts you a little bit at ease and that you know that I really am all right. I just hope I can get back to everybody really soon.
00:26:58You sounded a little tired or like you were sedated, but you sounded all right.
00:27:10And I'm sure that the people that have you are telling the truth when they say they're treating you under the Geneva Convention.
00:27:19I just want you to know that I'm going to know that I'm going to do everything I can to get you out of there.
00:27:26It's a little frightening because the original demand is what I was afraid of from the beginning is that one that's impossible to meet.
00:27:33However, in the next 24 or 48 hours, I'll be trying to do my best to come back with some kind of a counteroffice.
00:27:40It's acceptable.
00:27:41It's acceptable.
00:27:42It's very difficult because, it's very difficult because I have, no need to.
00:27:49possible to meet. However, in the next 24 or 48 hours, I'll be trying to do my best
00:28:00to come back with some kind of a counteroffer that's acceptable. It's very difficult because
00:28:11I have no one to negotiate with, except through a letter that generally comes two or three
00:28:21days later than we expect it. Anyways, you can rest assured that your mother and I and
00:28:31all the family will do everything we can to get you out. Tell them not to worry. Nobody's
00:28:37going to bust in on them or start a shoot up. And you take care of yourself.
00:28:45They waited to see what Hearst would do and did very little work to try to find out what
00:28:51the SLA might do or who the SLA might be. That ominous quiet continues at the Hearst
00:28:57home and that tense, frustrating wait goes on. We never discussed it as to should we be doing
00:29:05this. We're, you know, being a mouthpiece for the family. We're recording what they have
00:29:11to say. We're recording what the bad guys are saying in their tapes. We're just sort of being
00:29:17messengers back and forth. We're not really doing our jobs.
00:29:20Greetings to the people and fellow comrade brothers and sisters. My name is Sin Q and to my comrades
00:29:30I am known as Sin. I hold the rank of General Field Marshal in the United Federated Forces
00:29:37of the Symbionese Liberation Army. The SLA has arrested the subject for the crimes that her
00:29:44mother and father have by their actions committed against we the American people and the oppressed
00:29:50people of the world. Randolph A. Hearst is the corporate chairman of the fascist media empire
00:29:59of the ultra-right Hearst Corporation, which is one of the largest propaganda institutions
00:30:06of this present military dictatorship of the militarily armed corporate state that we now live under
00:30:13in this nation. The primary goal of this empire is to serve and form the necessary propaganda
00:30:22and smokescreen to shield the American people from seeing the realities of the corporate dictatorship,
00:30:29which Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford represent. In closing, I wish to say to Mr. Hearst and Mrs. Hearst,
00:30:39I am quite willing to carry out the execution of your daughter to save the life of starving
00:30:46men, women and children of every race. And if, as you and others so naively believe, that we
00:30:53will lose, let it be known that even in death we will win. For the very ashes of this fascist
00:31:00nation will mark our very graves.
00:31:04There was no doubt they were in control of the situation, no doubt. And no doubt that they had
00:31:13control again because they had the girl. They had a Hearst. This is like uncrowned royalty.
00:31:25They kicked off something they had no idea what the ramifications were going to be when they
00:31:29kidnapped her. They did exactly what I, for one, didn't want to do.
00:31:38We were parked in front. And we start out with cars. Then we got to Winnebago's. Then we got to where some
00:31:46people stayed overnight.
00:31:48More anxious about his daughter's plight.
00:31:50See, this is the first time something like this has ever happened. So there are no ground rules. We got barbecue sets, wine, liquor.
00:32:00Where's your microphone?
00:32:01What we're going to do now. We're busy. We're busy now. This is one of the all time great Nazi spies.
00:32:07Al Muller. Would I say a few words in the camera?
00:32:10Not to this fascist pig press.
00:32:14If the FBI did know, in fact, where Patty Hearst was, what exactly would you do?
00:32:25Well, this would depend on the facts. We don't know where Patty Hearst is. We're making no direct attempt to find out because we don't want to get Patty hurt.
00:32:37At the time when Charlie was special agent in charge in San Francisco, the FBI really didn't know what to do.
00:32:45They didn't have a clue about who these people were. This was brand new and came out of nowhere. And in a lot of ways, they looked in the wrong places.
00:32:54These were people who were dangerous, obviously, because they'd already murdered one person. And they had set fire to a house.
00:33:04How big they were, underground support groups and things like this. No idea whatsoever.
00:33:10And that's one of the reasons that the Bureau sent so many people in, was to try and approach this as a terrorist investigation as well as a kidnap case.
00:33:25The U-2 was flying sorties up over the High Sierra, looking at campsites and things like this during the initial search days.
00:33:34The tapes were sent to the CIA headquarters to be listened to by blind people whose hearing is extremely acute. And they heard things in the background that the ordinary ear would never pick up.
00:33:54Greetings to the people and comrades, sisters and brothers. My name is Jelena, and I am a general in the Symbianese Liberation Army.
00:34:02The Symbianese War Council has determined that communication between POW Patricia Hurst and her family will come only after the immediate creation of the necessary mechanisms,
00:34:12whereby Russell Little and Joseph Romero can communicate via live national TV with the people and the SLA concerning the full scope of their physical health and all the conditions of their confinement.
00:34:26Oh man, the FBI and all of them came and said, oh hell no, we're not about to let these guys go live on national television. We can forget that.
00:34:33Come on, man. We're going to give you time here.
00:34:36I'd do everything I could to get them on the air and will. They're the ones, as far as I'm concerned, whether Romero and Little go on the air if the SLA wants them to go on the air.
00:34:48I'd be delighted to have them go on the air. They may tell me something that I don't know, and it may gradually become a conduit in which we can talk to the SLA.
00:34:57I told him, you know, what you're doing is giving them a satisfaction. You're putting them on a pedestal that they don't belong.
00:35:09I am being held as a prisoner of war and not as anything else. I mean, and I'm being treated in accordance with international codes of war.
00:35:20And so, I mean, Dad, you shouldn't listen or believe what anybody else says about the way I'm being treated. This is the way that I am being treated.
00:35:28And I'm not left alone, and I'm not just shoved off. So, I mean, I am fine.
00:35:33Also, since I am an example, and it's really important that everybody understand that, you know, I am an example and a warning.
00:35:41And because of this, it's very important to the SLA that I return safely. And so people should stop acting like I'm dead, and Mom should get out of her black dress. That doesn't help at all.
00:35:58You know, you can argue that we shouldn't have dealt with the SLA. You can argue you shouldn't deal with radical groups.
00:36:16You can do all those kinds of things intellectually until it becomes your daughter.
00:36:20And after a short period of time, Hurst said, hey, it's my daughter. We'll do whatever they want.
00:36:29Arrangements have been made for $2 million to be delivered to a tax-exempt charitable organization capable of making a distribution for the benefit of the poor and needy.
00:36:40He walked out the front door and said, Ludlow Kramer's going to handle the food distribution. And that was it.
00:36:45Gentlemen, this is Mr. Ludlow Kramer, Secretary of State of the State of Washington. This afternoon, we met with the coalition.
00:36:53Now, we discussed the program. The model of it has been done in the state of Washington.
00:37:00One of the sad parts was the number of people that they grabbed to help them that could do nothing.
00:37:07It is very apparent that SLA has now seen fit to use us as a liaison. We made a plea for that to happen. And now we are the liaison between the Hurst family and SLA.
00:37:24They hired a couple of people to analyze every word she said and what it really meant, not what she said, and paid them a lot of money.
00:37:33I am not being starved or beaten or unnecessarily frightened.
00:37:40The psychics were in the house all the time. They were doing things and getting paid to do it.
00:37:46But again, it was grabbing. It was a family, no matter how powerful or great or good they may be, who knew nothing about what was happening.
00:37:55They had no comprehension of who they were dealing with or how they were dealing with it. And at the beginning, we didn't really know who we were dealing with either.
00:38:05Four days ago, we had nothing. In four days, we've created the largest private volunteer organization in the history of this country.
00:38:18The SLA is correct in the sense that people need funds, that people need the additional money. We are not questioning that at all.
00:38:25And the 4,000 volunteers that are working on this program believe the same thing.
00:38:30But we believe that it must be and can be an ongoing program.
00:38:34I went down there with Randy, and that was amazing. So you had meat here, you had produce here, you had eggs here, you had bananas, whatever, whatever.
00:38:44And there was just assembly lines, and the end came out the box. As if the SLA was giving the gift, right?
00:38:51With their insignia of that seven-headed snake nonsense on either side.
00:38:56I am convinced that Patricia Hearst is going to be released. I believe.
00:39:03I believe. I am also convinced that the peoples of this land who have gone hungry are going to be saved.
00:39:15I also believe that the corporate structures, those who have the corporations of our land, can now see that sometimes it takes the most extreme situations to be heard.
00:39:41Even though I disagree with the tactic of kidnapping and terrorism, people are looking like they've never looked before in America.
00:39:54It was what we always wanted, in a way. It was like a dream that you didn't want to wake up from because it was, first of all, it was instant gratification.
00:40:07They say, food program, there was a food program just like that. There was thousands of poor black people and poor Hispanics in line showing poverty in America, which is what we wanted to show.
00:40:21For years, no one would listen.
00:40:27I hate to take advantage of what can happen to the young lady.
00:40:30Me too.
00:40:31But my children need food just like anybody else can.
00:40:35At all.
00:40:36We were like Robin Hood.
00:40:37We're coming in and we're going to feed people and maybe this can be an ongoing program for 20 years and maybe we can do some good things and all that stuff.
00:40:45And so, sure, we didn't agree with the SLA, but we knew people were hungry.
00:40:50What literally happens, of course, is that because of the lack of coordination, because of just the chaos that surrounded it all, it almost comes off as a racist episode in which people look like damn fools fighting over a turkey.
00:41:19Three of them are going smoothly. One, I'll help up, please.
00:41:48All of a sudden, people start commencing.
00:41:50Do you know that two people have been killed and murdered because you handled this so badly?
00:41:55People have been hurt, Mr. Cramer.
00:41:56One reporter and he's not badly hurt.
00:41:59It happened.
00:42:00So what are you going to do?
00:42:02I'm carrying out the wishes of the family.
00:42:05One moment.
00:42:07In the future, every crime committed in connection with the kidnapping will be prosecuted and I'm including any persons who participate in any sort of a food distribution plan or a television set distribution plan or any other kind of a distribution plan.
00:42:31If it's done in response to extortion or kidnapping, we'll encourage the local district attorneys to prosecute under existing law and if they don't, we'll do it.
00:42:40The size of the latest demand of the SLA is far beyond my financial capability. Therefore, the matter is now out of my hands.
00:42:58You know something, Robin, I was just wondering? Are we good guys or bad guys? You know, I mean, are Robin the rich to feed the poor?
00:43:11That's a naughty word. We never rob.
00:43:14I've been robbed.
00:43:15Of course you've been robbed!
00:43:20Mom, Dad, I've been hearing reports about the food program. So far it sounds like you and your advisors have managed to turn it into a real disaster.
00:43:30You said that it was out of your hands. What you should have said was that you washed your hands of it.
00:43:36It sounds like most of the food is low quality. No one received any beef or lamb. Anyway, it certainly didn't sound like the kind of food our family is used to eating.
00:43:47Oh my God, what's this? The child is talking down to her rich dad. I mean, this is what we all were doing for the last ten years.
00:43:56Like I say, just distilled in a moment. It was like compressing matter, you know, until it's just so, you know.
00:44:05Like I said earlier, I can see that she may actually be having her doubts as to, you know, from her point of view, it may look like we've made a mess of things.
00:44:15What is her political point of view, would you say?
00:44:18I mean, previous to the last two months, I would say that she really didn't have one.
00:44:25I think that by the time this is over, she's going to have some sort of a political view. There's no way of getting around that.
00:44:37Mom, Dad, tell the poor and oppressed people of this nation what the corporate state is about to do.
00:44:49Warn black and poor people that they're about to be murdered down to the last man, woman and child.
00:44:55Tell the people that the energy crisis is nothing more than a means to get public approval for a massive program to build nuclear power plants all over the nation.
00:45:05Tell the people that the entire corporate state is, with the aid of this massive power supply, about to totally automate the entire industrial state to the point that in the next five years, all that will be needed will be a small class of button pushers.
00:45:21Tell the people, Dad, that the removal of expendable excess, the removal of unneeded people has already started.
00:45:30I've been given the choice of one, being released in a safe area, or two, joining the forces of the Symbionese Liberation Army and fighting for my freedom and the freedom of all oppressed people.
00:45:43I have chosen to stay and fight.
00:45:47I have been given the name Tanya after a comrade who fought alongside Che in Bolivia.
00:45:53It is in the spirit of Tanya that I say, Patria o muerte, venceremos.
00:45:59All of a sudden, within days, we love you, Tanya, because that's the name she chose.
00:46:13And it was like, it was just so unreal.
00:46:16It was, and that's all the media talked about.
00:46:19It just, I don't even know what to compare it with.
00:46:23It's just like, it was like, it was like the 49ers in 81 being all of a sudden on their way to the Super Bowl.
00:46:32It was a, it was magical.
00:46:33It was just like the home team, you know, it was like the 69 New York Mets.
00:46:38And it was just like, it was the ultimate David and Goliath.
00:46:42And it was like, they, they tell him we want food.
00:46:45They tell him we want better food, this, that, and they just comply.
00:46:49And they just fold it.
00:46:51And it's just a few people and it, nothing ever like that had ever happened before.
00:46:57Everything else was a failure.
00:46:59Joe and I would read this stuff and just look at each other.
00:47:08It's like, you know, is everybody stoned?
00:47:11What's going on over here, you know?
00:47:13You don't think that she's come around to thinking their way.
00:47:16I know Patty too well to think that she's going to come around like that.
00:47:19I really don't.
00:47:20Why do you think she would say those things?
00:47:22I guess, um, she only hears one side of the story.
00:47:26The whole time she's been there, she's with one side.
00:47:29And she, maybe from where she is, she looks out and says,
00:47:31what's going on, you know?
00:47:32And she only hears one side, like I said.
00:47:34And she, she just doesn't know it's the whole thing.
00:47:37You don't believe it?
00:47:38No, I don't believe it.
00:47:41There's been more or less shock over this thing.
00:47:44And until we know more about it, we haven't anything to say.
00:47:48Uh, I think, and I don't remember all the details,
00:47:53but I think that's the only time he cried.
00:47:56That really broke his heart.
00:48:06You had people who were telling him, she's been brainwashed.
00:48:13So, they had that rock to hold onto.
00:48:18Until she walks in the door and tells them personally that she's a member of the SLA,
00:48:29common sense dictates that you have to accept that she is still being held prisoner by the SLA.
00:48:38If she is not, there's no reason in the world why she cannot come and make this statement in person
00:48:44and walk back out the door as her parents said she could.
00:48:47We spoke to a lot of people who had become familiar with this phenomenon,
00:48:51the so-called Stockholm Syndrome, in which people get kidnapped and identify with their kidnappers.
00:48:57The thesis of the Stockholm Syndrome is that every day your captor lets you live,
00:49:03you more closely identify with that captor, up until even sexual attraction.
00:49:09And to me, she was a classic Stockholm Syndrome case.
00:49:13If I would have been there, if I would have been part of the kidnapping?
00:49:18No, no. God, no. I can't imagine letting her stay.
00:49:24I mean, I know her and Willie, you know, they were in love and all this other stuff,
00:49:29and she was pissed off at her parents.
00:49:31Will you come with me?
00:49:32You sure would?
00:49:33I have nothing to offer you, but a life of hardship and danger.
00:49:37We'd be together.
00:49:38Because I love you, Robin, I'd come.
00:49:40Even a danger would mean nothing if you were with me.
00:49:44As for my ex-fiancee, the fact is, I don't care if I ever see him again.
00:49:50During the last few months, Stephen has shown himself to be a sexist, ageist pig.
00:49:57I, uh, I'm...
00:49:59I'm not in any particular right frame of mind, perhaps, to be talking now.
00:50:07I just finished listening to the tape a few minutes ago.
00:50:10But it seemed important to me to say some things that I'm feeling right now,
00:50:16and not think about them too much and screw it up.
00:50:19Uh, it...
00:50:22The SLA has said that they are the instrument of the people,
00:50:27and yet the will of the people has certainly been, at least lately, that...
00:50:33And the will of the two captured soldiers has been to give Patty her freedom.
00:50:40Uh, I'm reconciled...
00:50:43Reconciled to the idea that Patty must have matured a great deal in the past two months.
00:50:50I just want to tell Patty that I love her as much as ever.
00:50:54And, uh, I think she knows that I can accept whatever she has chosen,
00:51:00and even though it may be hard for me, I can accept it.
00:51:07It was just like total Hollywood, but I guess the whole thing had turned into Hollywood,
00:51:12so why shouldn't it be Hollywood for her too?
00:51:14You know, yeah, I'll go join, uh, Robin Hood.
00:51:17Combat operation. April 15, 1974. The year of the children.
00:51:32Action. Appropriation.
00:51:35138 Smith & Wesson revolver. Conditioned good.
00:51:40Five rounds of 158 grain putting caliber ammo.
00:51:44Number of rounds fired by combat forces.
00:51:47Seven rounds.
00:51:49Number of rounds lost. Five.
00:51:51Casualties. People's forces. None.
00:51:54Enemy forces. None.
00:51:56Civilian. Two. Reasons.
00:51:59Subject one. Male.
00:52:01Subject was ordered to lay on the floor face down.
00:52:04Subject refused order and jumped out the front door of the bank.
00:52:08Therefore, the subject was shot.
00:52:11Subject two. Male.
00:52:13Subject failed or did not hear a warning to clear the street.
00:52:17Subject was running down the street towards the bank,
00:52:20and combat forces accordingly assumed subject was an armed enemy force element.
00:52:24Therefore, the subject was shot.
00:52:27It was Bonnie and Clyde.
00:52:29It was all that kind of thing that's very American, actually, at the Corps.
00:52:33It's just like these guys were just doing it so artistically.
00:52:38so that was ruined, but how they were done.
00:52:45It was awesome.
00:52:48Its practice is mostczÕ¿.
00:52:49You're a human.
00:52:51That's fine.
00:52:52We've got to move people out the history through the street.
00:52:53We've got to move our eyes across prices each day.
00:52:54Now...
00:52:55America could not help us interview more of a bit by a getaway near the peak of disaster.
00:52:56The idea of some sort was spatula.
00:53:27The Hibernia Bank, Sunset Branch, was held up at gunpoint this morning at 9.40.
00:53:53$10,960 was taken in cash.
00:53:59Witnesses state five of the bank robbers entered the bank while four remained outside.
00:54:05All made a getaway in two automobiles after firing several shots from automatic weapons.
00:54:11In addition, Patricia Campbell Hurst has been named in a federal warrant, charging her with being a material witness to the bank robbery.
00:54:18At this point, we are simply saying we want to talk to Patricia Hurst.
00:54:23I took the tape of Patricia Hurst in the bank robbery over to the Berkeley School for the Deaf and they read her lips as to what she was saying in the bank.
00:54:39I'm Tanya, up, up, up against the wall.
00:54:44And everybody giggled because they couldn't say it.
00:54:47And I said, MF?
00:54:48And they said, yeah, that's it.
00:54:49If that was Patty Hurst, she had her hand on that gun.
00:54:53She did have her hands on the trigger and ready to shoot anything that got in her way.
00:54:57Greetings to the people.
00:55:00This is Tanya.
00:55:02Our action of April 15th forced the corporate state to help finance the revolution.
00:55:08As for being brainwashed, the idea is ridiculous to the point of being beyond belief.
00:55:15I'm a soldier in the people's army.
00:55:20The FBI looked like a bunch of idiots.
00:55:27You know, here they couldn't find this little band of kids.
00:55:32They couldn't catch these people.
00:55:34You know, they were putting out these communiques.
00:55:36They were forcing this stuff to be fed live, unedited, to the whole country.
00:55:43Sure, they were pissed, man.
00:55:46They wanted them dead.
00:55:49To B-team commander and all elements of the anti-aircraft forces of the SLA,
00:55:55this is Tico speaking.
00:55:58The Malcolm X combat unit of the Symbionese Liberation Army
00:56:01left the San Francisco Bay Area in a successful effort
00:56:04to break a massive pig encirclement.
00:56:08It had become clear through intelligence reports
00:56:10that the pigs were preparing to trap us on the San Francisco Peninsula.
00:56:15The area is very small, surrounded by water,
00:56:18and with limited choices for breaking a major encirclement.
00:56:21A nighttime raid on this apartment house
00:56:35gave the FBI its first big break
00:56:37in the three-month search for the Symbionese Liberation Army.
00:56:42Inside the apartment, abandoned last week,
00:56:44agents found terrorist slogans signed by Field Marshal Sin Q,
00:56:48and also by Tanya, the name taken by Patty Hearst.
00:56:56They went to Los Angeles.
00:56:59They left a message for the FBI and Charlie, you know,
00:57:02and said, you know, beat you again, see you later, and took off.
00:57:06You assume that happy hunting Charles was directed at you
00:57:10that was written on that wall?
00:57:12I don't know. I haven't seen that.
00:57:13I, uh, there are a lot of people named Charles, Charlie.
00:57:17I haven't, uh, lost any sleep over it.
00:57:20DeVries made some mention of, like,
00:57:23psychological warfare against the police, you know.
00:57:27It was like trying to fake the police out.
00:57:30But, you know, it seemed like you totally lost track of that idea.
00:57:34Well, are you doing this for the police?
00:57:36Does it communicate for the police?
00:57:37Or is it trying to explain to people what you're doing?
00:57:41I mean, who is it for?
00:57:41They seem to have lost, you know, sight of, you know,
00:57:45who are you trying to communicate with?
00:57:48Why would you even worry about the police?
00:57:49Who cares what they think?
00:57:51They hate you. They want to kill you.
00:57:52A lot of this is fantasy in their mind.
00:58:02I mean, they're living out a fantasy that's Peter Pan.
00:58:08It was like watching a movie.
00:58:10And there's the, you know, there's the gang that we want to win.
00:58:15You know, it was, oh, we were pulling for them so much.
00:58:20But it wasn't like, you know,
00:58:23where do we go to join up or anything like that.
00:58:30They could not carry on what they were doing in Los Angeles.
00:58:35It was a different culture.
00:58:37And they soon found that out.
00:58:40DeVries might have tried to convince them he knew about Los Angeles,
00:58:43but he didn't.
00:58:43He was from Cleveland.
00:58:45On the late afternoon of May 16, 1974,
00:58:51at Mel's Sporting Goods Store,
00:58:54in Willwood, California,
00:58:57William Harris attempted
00:58:58to shoplift a pair of socks.
00:59:02As William and Emily Harris
00:59:03departed Mel's Sporting Goods,
00:59:06a scuffle ensued,
00:59:08after which the store employees
00:59:11were the target of fire
00:59:13from a van parked across the street.
00:59:17Patricia Hurst
00:59:18fired the shots
00:59:20at Mel's Sporting Goods.
00:59:27Had not been the lifting
00:59:28of a pair of sweat socks,
00:59:30did you have any indication
00:59:31that they had gone to L.A.?
00:59:32No, we had none.
00:59:34As of that time, no.
00:59:35Mr. Bates,
00:59:36are you saying
00:59:37that you had no idea
00:59:38that they had moved to Los Angeles?
00:59:41That's right.
00:59:41That's pretty incredible, isn't it?
00:59:43Is it incredible?
00:59:44We interviewed the people
00:59:45in the neighborhood
00:59:46where they went to,
00:59:47the people who they'd stayed with.
00:59:48They were still so stoned out on reds,
00:59:50you know,
00:59:51they could barely keep their eyes open.
00:59:53But they turned them in, too, you know.
00:59:57Don't burn my house down
00:59:58because you can't be a revolution.
00:59:59That was the attitude.
01:00:02Yes, you do indeed know me.
01:00:06You have always known me.
01:00:08I'm that nigga
01:00:09you have hunted and feared
01:00:10night and day.
01:00:12I'm that nigga
01:00:13you have killed hundreds of my peoples
01:00:14in a vain hope of finding.
01:00:17I'm that nigga
01:00:18that is no longer
01:00:18just for hunted,
01:00:20robbed, and murdered.
01:00:21I'm the nigga
01:00:22that hunts you now.
01:00:24Yes, you know me.
01:00:26You know us all.
01:00:27You know me.
01:00:28I'm the wetback.
01:00:30You know me.
01:00:30I'm the gook,
01:00:31the broad,
01:00:32the servant,
01:00:32the spig.
01:00:33Yes, indeed,
01:00:34you know us all.
01:00:35And we know you,
01:00:36the oppressor,
01:00:37murderer,
01:00:38and robber.
01:00:39And you have hunted
01:00:40and robbed
01:00:40and exploited us all.
01:00:42Now we are the hunters
01:00:44that will give you no rest
01:00:45and will not compromise
01:00:47the freedom of our children.
01:00:50Death to the fascist insect
01:00:51that preys upon
01:00:52the life of the people.
01:00:54They are getting ready
01:01:03for an assault
01:01:04and there's no doubt
01:01:05about that.
01:01:06Before we stop counting,
01:01:07there's another.
01:01:07About five plainclothes
01:01:09police cars
01:01:09have moved in
01:01:11onto the corner
01:01:11on Compton Avenue here
01:01:13with officers,
01:01:14with weapons,
01:01:15loaded weapons.
01:01:16Ah, now more officers
01:01:17are moving right
01:01:17into the position
01:01:18where we were.
01:01:18so they must be
01:01:19getting ready.
01:01:20There's no doubt
01:01:21about that
01:01:22in my mind.
01:01:26Occupism 1466,
01:01:28come out now.
01:01:30Come out with your hands up.
01:01:33Come out of the house
01:01:34and you will not be harmed.
01:01:35Come on out.
01:01:37Hands up.
01:01:38Maybe the people
01:01:39inside the house
01:01:40are thinking
01:01:40that's like when
01:01:42the San Francisco police
01:01:43say give up.
01:01:43it means you don't
01:01:45have to right away.
01:01:47But in L.A.,
01:01:48it meant you had
01:01:48to right away.
01:01:53A White House
01:01:54with the two windows
01:01:55that we can see there.
01:01:56As far as I can determine
01:01:57and you've got
01:01:57as close as I have.
01:02:00That's that.
01:02:01That's that.
01:02:02Stay over here.
01:02:04Stay on those
01:02:04sides of the street.
01:02:12Hey, get out of there.
01:02:13Hey, get out of there.
01:02:15Get out of there.
01:02:16Shoot in that place.
01:02:17We need additional
01:02:18ambulances to come down
01:02:19because we're going to
01:02:20have them to reach
01:02:21the police up.
01:02:22Come on,
01:02:22he's trying to play,
01:02:23please.
01:02:24We're moving us back.
01:02:25We're moving us back.
01:02:26This was right at the time
01:02:28when the technology
01:02:28changed in television.
01:02:31As far as I know,
01:02:32this is the first time
01:02:33something like that
01:02:35that wasn't a planned
01:02:36event was actually
01:02:37carried live nationwide.
01:02:40I mean, the whole world
01:02:41is watching this shootout.
01:02:4440 data, let's listen up,
01:02:45but we're going to need
01:02:46your assistance now.
01:02:47We need all the ammo
01:02:48to re-line the safe.
01:02:49We're taking automatic
01:02:50files running back
01:02:51from this location.
01:02:52They're much better
01:02:52armed than we are.
01:02:54We have more ammunition
01:02:55than the police did,
01:02:56which is an incredible
01:02:57thing.
01:02:57It's hard to believe.
01:02:58But that was the
01:02:58transmission.
01:02:59So there's no reason
01:03:00to believe we're going
01:03:00to be able to get loose
01:03:01in it for a while.
01:03:02We're going to be stuck.
01:03:02We're going to bring
01:03:03down here for a long time.
01:03:04We are on the scene.
01:03:17We can't get anybody close
01:03:18to the miracle standing
01:03:18right now and not have
01:03:20the brains blown out.
01:03:22Good God.
01:03:24I mean, if you ever had
01:03:25a situation in which
01:03:26you have a condition,
01:03:28like they said before,
01:03:28when the left doesn't
01:03:29know when it's won,
01:03:30if the SLA had thought
01:03:31about it at all,
01:03:32they'd won.
01:03:33They could have given up
01:03:34and made a speech right
01:03:35there.
01:03:35They had the whole world
01:03:36listening to them.
01:03:37And they decided to
01:03:38fight it out.
01:04:39Everybody, hold fire!
01:04:41One person was brought out.
01:04:43We haven't seen anyone
01:04:44else come out of there.
01:04:45Of course, we're not
01:04:46really in the position
01:04:47to have seen them,
01:04:48but I believe they would
01:04:49have brought them
01:04:49around this corner
01:04:50and down if they had.
01:04:51And of course,
01:04:52the obvious conclusion
01:04:54is that the Los Angeles
01:04:55police have indeed
01:04:56found the nesting place
01:04:58of the Symbionese
01:04:59Liberation Army,
01:05:00and there's not much
01:05:01left of it now.
01:05:09They just went in
01:05:14and killed everybody.
01:05:16Joe and I heard
01:05:17the whole thing.
01:05:18We couldn't see anything
01:05:20where we were.
01:05:21We didn't have TVs
01:05:22or anything like that.
01:05:24But we heard the whole shootout,
01:05:27and we kept hoping
01:05:30it wasn't them at first.
01:05:33Once we heard them
01:05:34firing thousands
01:05:35of rounds of ammunition
01:05:36and shooting high-temperature
01:05:38tear gas grenades in there
01:05:40and setting the place
01:05:41on fire,
01:05:41I mean, eventually,
01:05:42we realized
01:05:43it must be them.
01:05:45And we figured,
01:05:48you know,
01:05:48it's like we figured,
01:05:49well, this is it.
01:05:51You know,
01:05:51this is what we were afraid of.
01:05:53And now it's happened.
01:06:08Los Angeles County Coroner
01:06:09Thomas Noguchi
01:06:10faced a jam-packed
01:06:11news conference
01:06:12after autopsies
01:06:13were completed
01:06:14and the bodies
01:06:14found in the
01:06:15wreckage of the SLA hideout.
01:06:17Dr. Thomas Noguchi
01:06:18just called
01:06:19the Hurst residents
01:06:21and talked with Mr. Hurst
01:06:22just a few minutes ago.
01:06:24And he told Mr. Hurst
01:06:25that they have examined
01:06:28all of the five bodies
01:06:30taken from that house
01:06:32in Los Angeles.
01:06:33And the conclusion
01:06:35they have reached
01:06:36exactly is that
01:06:38Patty Hurst was not,
01:06:41I repeat,
01:06:41was not in that house
01:06:43yesterday.
01:06:44they knew
01:06:51that Hurst was not
01:06:52in that house.
01:06:53That was all bullshit.
01:06:54They knew
01:06:55because of the way
01:06:56that Bill and Emily
01:06:58and Hurst had gotten away
01:06:59and the paths
01:07:00they had taken,
01:07:01everything,
01:07:01and when they had
01:07:02surrounded that house
01:07:02and put it under surveillance
01:07:04and all that,
01:07:04they knew she wasn't there.
01:07:06That was all bullshit.
01:07:06It was quite certain
01:07:10that the Harrises and Patty
01:07:12had not gotten back
01:07:13to the residents down there.
01:07:15Why there was no negotiation?
01:07:20It's not by the boat.
01:07:23It's not by the boat.
01:07:24Did they start shooting
01:07:25from the inside out first?
01:07:27I don't know.
01:07:28They don't teach you that
01:07:30in the hostage negotiation courses.
01:07:32That's for damn sure.
01:07:37I think if you take a poll
01:07:40in the Los Angeles area
01:07:41that the citizens would
01:07:43not only be supportive
01:07:45of the way the police handle it.
01:07:48My feeling is
01:07:49that their feeling
01:07:50is one of admiration
01:07:51for the way the police handle it.
01:07:52I know that there were
01:07:53some people who said,
01:07:54well, gee,
01:07:55instead of telling them
01:07:56to come out in five minutes,
01:07:57they should have given them
01:07:57ten minutes.
01:07:59Somebody else suggested
01:08:00they should have
01:08:01starved them out.
01:08:02Well, you know,
01:08:03these may be
01:08:03well-meaning people,
01:08:04but I think they forget
01:08:06the setting in which
01:08:07the police operated.
01:08:15Greetings to the people.
01:08:17This is Tanya.
01:08:19I want to talk about
01:08:21the way I knew
01:08:21our six murdered comrades
01:08:23because the fascist pig media
01:08:25has, of course,
01:08:27been painting
01:08:27a typically distorted picture
01:08:29of these beautiful
01:08:30sisters and brothers.
01:08:33Sinh Kieu was in a race with time,
01:08:35believing that every minute
01:08:36must be another step forward
01:08:38in the fight
01:08:38to save the children.
01:08:41Jelena was beautiful.
01:08:42She taught me
01:08:43how to fight the enemy within
01:08:45through her constant struggle
01:08:46with bourgeois conditioning.
01:08:49Gabi crouched low
01:08:50with her ass to the ground.
01:08:52She practiced until her shotgun
01:08:54was an extension
01:08:55of her right and left arms.
01:08:57Zoya, female gorilla,
01:09:00perfect love and perfect hate
01:09:02reflected in stone-cold eyes.
01:09:04Baiza taught me
01:09:06to shoot first
01:09:07and make sure the pig
01:09:08is dead before splitting.
01:09:10She was wise
01:09:11and bad.
01:09:13Kujo
01:09:13was the gentlest,
01:09:15most beautiful man
01:09:16I've ever known.
01:09:18He taught me the truth
01:09:19as he learned it
01:09:20from the beautiful brothers
01:09:21in California's
01:09:22concentration camps.
01:09:25Neither Kujo
01:09:26or I had ever loved
01:09:27an individual
01:09:27the way we loved each other.
01:09:29our relationship's foundation
01:09:31was our commitment
01:09:32to the struggle
01:09:33and our love
01:09:34for the people.
01:09:36I died in that fire
01:09:38on 54th Street
01:09:39but out of the ashes
01:09:41I was reborn.
01:09:42I know what I have to do.
01:09:44I want to talk about
01:09:52the atrocity
01:09:53that took place
01:09:54in Los Angeles.
01:09:56I'm really angry
01:09:56so people have to
01:09:58bear with me.
01:09:59I'm still angry
01:09:59for what I saw
01:10:00and the things I've heard
01:10:01that went down
01:10:02in Los Angeles
01:10:03on Saturday afternoon.
01:10:04I want to deal
01:10:05with the beginning.
01:10:06It takes the actions
01:10:08of SLA
01:10:08to feed poor people
01:10:10in this state
01:10:11throughout the United States
01:10:13of North America.
01:10:14It's going to take
01:10:15many more SLA's
01:10:17to come along
01:10:17and deal with
01:10:18the fascist elements
01:10:20in this fascist racist country
01:10:21that we are confronted with
01:10:22as so-called
01:10:24American citizens.
01:10:26Here's the most notorious
01:10:28kidnap victim
01:10:29in the world
01:10:29traveling with the two
01:10:31best-known kidnappers
01:10:33in the world
01:10:34and yet they slide
01:10:35into Berkeley unnoticed
01:10:37and are given
01:10:37safe refuge
01:10:39almost immediately.
01:10:40Thank you,
01:10:42willing,
01:10:42Camilla,
01:10:44Miss Moon
01:10:44and Fahisa
01:10:45were viciously
01:10:47attacked and murdered
01:10:48by 500 pigs in L.A.
01:10:50while the whole nation watched
01:10:51and now the media
01:10:52is trying to say
01:10:53they were trying to escape
01:10:55by tunneling
01:10:56under the houses
01:10:56where they had chickened out
01:10:57at the last minute.
01:10:59Well, I believe that
01:10:59Jelena and her karma
01:11:00fought till the last minute
01:11:02and though I would like
01:11:03to have her be here
01:11:04with me right now,
01:11:06I know that she lived
01:11:07and she died happy
01:11:09and S.L.A. soldiers
01:11:10although I know
01:11:11it's not necessary
01:11:12to say
01:11:12keep fighting
01:11:14I'm with you
01:11:15and we are with you.
01:11:18Right on!
01:11:22The door could have
01:11:23knocked with Emily
01:11:24or Bill
01:11:25or Patty Harris
01:11:26saying
01:11:26God, they're trying
01:11:27to kill us
01:11:28we need help
01:11:28they could have
01:11:29knocked on
01:11:29200 doors in Berkeley
01:11:31and 150 of them
01:11:32would have hit them out.
01:11:33We were just the ones
01:11:34that happened
01:11:35to have the door knocked.
01:11:36Bill becomes
01:11:43the new leader
01:11:46of the S.L.A.
01:11:48He's the surviving
01:11:49male guy
01:11:50the authority figure
01:11:51and he wants to be
01:11:52the new
01:11:53general field marshal
01:11:55so General Tico
01:11:58takes over.
01:12:01I'd have to say
01:12:02that
01:12:03once I met
01:12:04all three of them
01:12:05I was
01:12:06kind of disappointed
01:12:09in how flat
01:12:10they were.
01:12:11They didn't seem
01:12:12to be that smart
01:12:13it wasn't a fingernail
01:12:16of charisma
01:12:17among the three of them.
01:12:20That was kind of
01:12:21dawning on me
01:12:22how
01:12:22middle class
01:12:25they all seemed.
01:12:27I renounced
01:12:28my class privilege
01:12:30when Finn and Kujo
01:12:31gave me the name
01:12:32Tanya
01:12:32and I would never
01:12:34choose to live
01:12:35the rest of my life
01:12:36surrounded by pigs
01:12:38like the Hursts.
01:12:40I just hope
01:12:41everybody will remember
01:12:42that physically
01:12:44Patty is still
01:12:45a kidnapped victim
01:12:46she was taken away
01:12:47against her will
01:12:48and psychologically
01:12:51she's a victim
01:12:53of thought control
01:12:54by terrorists
01:12:55and
01:12:56all I can do
01:12:58is hope
01:12:58and pray
01:12:59that God
01:13:00will bring her
01:13:00home again.
01:13:05Death to the
01:13:06fascist insect
01:13:07that preys
01:13:08upon the life
01:13:09of the people.
01:13:10to this day
01:13:25I can't understand
01:13:26why the need
01:13:28was felt
01:13:28to keep on
01:13:30with this kind
01:13:30of militaristic
01:13:32fantasy
01:13:34just end it
01:13:39and be done
01:13:39with it
01:13:40and good luck.
01:14:04these four
01:14:04as soon as
01:14:05they entered
01:14:05the bank
01:14:06announced
01:14:07that it was
01:14:07a holdup
01:14:08everyone
01:14:08to get down
01:14:09on the floor
01:14:09put their faces
01:14:10in the rug
01:14:11and with that
01:14:12the shot rang out
01:14:14hitting Mrs. Upsall
01:14:15the leader
01:14:22of the group
01:14:22told everyone
01:14:23in the bank
01:14:24if they didn't
01:14:24cooperate
01:14:25they would
01:14:26receive the same
01:14:27in return
01:14:28with that
01:14:28two of the individuals
01:14:29vaulted the counter
01:14:30start scooping up
01:14:31the cash
01:14:32they were kicking
01:14:33the people
01:14:34in the head
01:14:34stepping on
01:14:35their faces
01:14:36and just shouting
01:14:38profanity throughout
01:14:40there was nothing
01:14:42left to be gained
01:14:43by the SLA
01:14:44at the point
01:14:45of that Carmichael
01:14:45bank robbery
01:14:46except money
01:14:48I think the killing
01:15:00scared hell out
01:15:01of them
01:15:01not just because
01:15:03it wouldn't mean
01:15:03the police were
01:15:04after them
01:15:05more
01:15:05but because
01:15:06it was an
01:15:06immoral thing
01:15:08to have happened
01:15:09it was not
01:15:10something they
01:15:11meant to do
01:15:11and I think
01:15:13that bothered
01:15:14them more
01:15:16than people
01:15:17realize
01:15:17I have family
01:15:20in the world
01:15:20I have friends
01:15:21in the world
01:15:21I don't want
01:15:22to be thought
01:15:23of as a murderer
01:15:24I don't want
01:15:24to be thought
01:15:25of as some
01:15:26fucking maniac
01:15:27that goes
01:15:28and shoots
01:15:29up a bank
01:15:29acting like
01:15:30a radical
01:15:31leave a woman
01:15:32to die
01:15:32like that
01:15:33now if you're
01:15:41asking me
01:15:42well
01:15:42someone did
01:15:43that
01:15:44obviously
01:15:45I wasn't there
01:15:46I didn't do it
01:15:47if you ask me
01:15:48can I say
01:15:48100%
01:15:49that Jim
01:15:51or Kathy
01:15:51or Patty
01:15:53or the Harris's
01:15:54or Wendy
01:15:55did or did not
01:15:56do it
01:15:56I can't say
01:15:57it looks like
01:15:58there's some
01:15:58involvement there
01:15:59isn't there
01:15:59it looks like
01:16:00somewhere along the line
01:16:02but I don't know
01:16:03they lied about me
01:16:04that bad
01:16:04I don't know
01:16:05you know
01:16:07I don't know
01:16:09I can't
01:16:10I can't honestly
01:16:11say
01:16:12on the stand
01:16:13I mean
01:16:15how am I going
01:16:16to know
01:16:16who is
01:16:17or who is
01:16:17not involved
01:16:18if I'm really
01:16:18not involved
01:16:19you know
01:16:20but
01:16:21and I don't
01:16:23really care
01:16:24I don't care
01:16:26at 2.25 p.m
01:16:35less than 30 minutes ago
01:16:37we arrested
01:16:38Patty Hearst
01:16:39at 625 Morse
01:16:41in the outer
01:16:43mission district
01:16:44we did observe
01:16:49two people
01:16:49who looked like
01:16:51they could be
01:16:52Bill and Emily Harris
01:16:53and as a result
01:16:55the arrest
01:16:55was made
01:16:56but it was
01:17:24Patty Hearst
01:17:24herself
01:17:25who gave a clue
01:17:25that she is
01:17:26a far different
01:17:27person
01:17:27now
01:17:28than the 19-year-old
01:17:29girl
01:17:29who was kidnapped
01:17:3019 months ago
01:17:31when asked
01:17:32for her occupation
01:17:33while being booked
01:17:34she told the officer
01:17:35urban gorilla
01:17:37and all these
01:17:40naive radicals
01:17:42just hearing
01:17:44what they wanted
01:17:45to hear
01:17:45basically
01:17:46you know
01:17:46they wanted
01:17:47a rich person
01:17:48to convert
01:17:49to their cause
01:17:50she was just
01:17:52just had a mutual
01:17:53agenda
01:17:54for a little while
01:17:55that's all it was
01:17:56as it turns out
01:17:57you know
01:17:57we were all fooled
01:17:58I don't believe
01:18:02Patty's legal problems
01:18:04are that serious
01:18:05after all
01:18:06she's primarily
01:18:06a kidnap victim
01:18:07she never went off
01:18:08into anything
01:18:09of her own free will
01:18:10it is probably
01:18:22the mystery story
01:18:23of the 20th century
01:18:24and it finally unfolded
01:18:26today
01:18:26one version of it
01:18:28Patty Hearst's own version
01:18:29of it
01:18:30here at the federal courthouse
01:18:31in San Francisco
01:18:32as the whole world watched
01:18:34it unfolded
01:18:35in this shocking
01:18:36chilling
01:18:37and deeply moving affidavit
01:18:38filed by Patty Hearst herself
01:18:40through her attorneys
01:18:41she was placed in a closet
01:18:44on the floor
01:18:45the closet was approximately
01:18:47five to six feet in length
01:18:49and about two and a half
01:18:51or three feet in width
01:18:52during all this time
01:18:54she was in a constant state
01:18:56of fear and terror
01:18:57and expected at any moment
01:18:59to be murdered by her captors
01:19:01after an interminable length of time
01:19:04which seemed to her to be weeks
01:19:06she was released from the closet
01:19:09and seated with the gang
01:19:11of captors
01:19:12when the blindfold was removed
01:19:14she felt as if she were
01:19:16on an LSD trip
01:19:17everything appeared
01:19:19so distorted and terrible
01:19:20that she believed
01:19:21and feared
01:19:22she was losing her sanity
01:19:23she was put in an automobile
01:19:27and taken to a site
01:19:29which she now understands
01:19:31was a branch
01:19:32of the Hibernia Bank
01:19:33she was given a gun
01:19:35and directed to stand about
01:19:37in the center of the bank counter
01:19:39meanwhile one of her captors
01:19:41armed with a gun
01:19:42which was kept pointed at her
01:19:44kept an eye on her
01:19:45and had told her in advance
01:19:47that if she made one false move
01:19:49or did anything except announce her name
01:19:52she would be killed instantly
01:19:54when she was taken back
01:19:59to her place of captivity
01:20:00she was told by them
01:20:02that she was now guilty
01:20:03of bank robbery and murder
01:20:05and that the FBI
01:20:06would shoot her on sight
01:20:08and her disordered and frightened mind
01:20:10disappeared to her to be probable
01:20:12and it was so insisted upon
01:20:15by members of the gang
01:20:16that she finally came to believe in
01:20:18her recollection of everything
01:20:20that transpired
01:20:21up to the time
01:20:22that she was arrested
01:20:23has been as though
01:20:24she lived in a fall
01:20:25in which she was confused
01:20:27still unable to distinguish
01:20:29between actuality
01:20:31and fantasy
01:20:32and she seemed to be
01:20:33as though she'd spoken
01:20:34through the Prophet
01:20:34and she stood at her
01:20:34was able to lead
01:20:35to kill classified
01:20:47and the military
01:20:48and the paracheras
01:20:49appeared to be
01:20:49for anne
01:20:49and the yan.
01:20:50And the family
01:20:50wasDo тебе
01:20:51and as though she had
01:20:52eaten
01:20:53nothing
01:20:53now
01:20:53You
01:20:55you
01:20:56also
01:20:56I
01:20:57was
01:20:58a
01:20:59Part of the dilemma of understanding Patricia Hurst in this whole thing is that there are
01:21:14so many obvious opportunities she had to simply walk down the street, hail a cab, get in the
01:21:21car, call her father, call me, anybody, you know, and it was over.
01:21:27She never did.
01:21:29Well, this is quite a difference from last time and thank you all.
01:21:48And I'm really happy to be going home and I want to thank my parents and my sisters and
01:21:57George, too, and all of the people on the committee to release me.
01:22:06And this is what we worked so hard to get.
01:22:15There it is.
01:22:24It's a commutation.
01:22:29Thank you all so much.
01:22:31Bye-bye.
01:22:32Yeah.
01:22:33I am.
01:22:34Bye-bye.
01:22:35Oh, I won't tell.
01:22:37As far as changing the whole society goes, it was always a pipe dream, the true communist
01:22:49state where everybody is a brother to everybody else and we all share everything and, you know,
01:22:55everybody lives happily ever after, I mean, I would have been fine with that, but, you know,
01:23:00I'm older now.
01:23:01People, they're working.
01:23:02They're paying their mortgage.
01:23:03They're worrying about their kids, you know.
01:23:05I mean, you know, but when you're, you know, when you're 21, 22, 23 years old, I was 24 years old
01:23:12when I got arrested, you know.
01:23:13You know, people talk about Hearst was only 19, hey, we were all young.
01:23:33Four former Symbionese Liberation Army members accused of murdering a Carmichael woman during
01:23:38a bank robbery in 1975 plead guilty today.
01:23:42In court, four of the SLA members who pulled off the heist apologized, 27 years after Myrna
01:23:48Absahl was killed during a bank robbery in Carmichael.
01:23:54Each of these defendants entered a plea of guilty to murder in the second degree.
01:23:58In addition, Mr. Harris admitted that he was armed during the commission of the crime.
01:24:02This is the time and the place for judgment of the sentence.
01:24:05When we finish today, the defendants will be remanded into custody to serve sentences in state prison.
01:24:11As I stated last time, the fact that Mrs. Absahl was murdered and unintentionally in the bank
01:24:26the bank is of no consequence to the family and the fact that we beat ourselves up more than anyone could
01:24:36and really alienated ourselves from what we believed in and ostracized ourselves.
01:24:42And that's probably the saddest thing about these kind of cases, whether you're well-intentioned
01:24:49or poor-intentioned or not, is that there's not a good result.
01:24:54A woman is dead and many people suffer from those consequences.
01:24:59And, uh, I can offer nothing but my apologies and...
01:25:07I'm sorry.
01:25:10Ms. Montague will be sentenced to eight years in prison.
01:25:26Mr. Harris will be sentenced to seven years in prison.
01:25:29Ms. Olsen will be sentenced to six years in prison.
01:25:32Mr. Borton will be sentenced to six years in prison.
01:25:35Now, my next guest went from kidnap victim to terrorist.
01:25:44She was once the most wanted woman in America.
01:25:47She was once the most wanted woman in America.
01:26:08It is truly remarkable to meet you because you are a part of all our history.
01:26:16It's something that intrigues everybody.
01:26:20Um, just to get an idea of why the kidnap happened,
01:26:23I mean, you were the granddaughter of William Randolph Hearst.
01:26:26Um, your family were supremely rich.
01:26:30Um, what was your childhood like?
01:26:33What was life like living like that?
01:26:35Ms. Well, it was great.
01:26:36It was, um, I, you know, I think it was really pretty perfect.
01:26:40I..
01:26:41But, uh, it was
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