Europe Today: Spotkanie NATO, jakość pracy w Europie, Macron w Chinach i Konkurs Piosenki Eurowizji
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00:30It is ready to do what it takes to protect Europe.
00:33This in response to Vladimir Putin's comments that Russia did not want it, but would be ready for war with Europe.
00:40Euro News' correspondent Shona Murray has spent most of the week over at the NATO headquarters outside Brussels and joins me now on set for an update.
00:47Good morning, Shona. Great to have you with us.
00:49Look, what was said over at NATO?
00:51Well, I think that is a very important point that we heard there from Vladimir Putin saying he would have war with Europe.
00:56But Secretary General of NATO, Mark Rutte, said NATO is a defensive alliance.
01:00There's no interest in war with Russia, of course, but it will support Ukraine for all its needs.
01:06It's also really atop the agenda was the last few days was, of course, these talks with the US and Ukraine and Russia.
01:14Not a huge amount of optimism from member states of NATO saying really that they don't believe that Russia is willing to come to the table.
01:20But they are also saying it's crunch time and really the consensus in NATO was the two most important things are territory and security guarantees.
01:27And we're nowhere near that point yet.
01:29So all that hope of the last two weeks is gone.
01:31Well, yeah, I mean, there wasn't a huge amount of hope anyway, but they're saying there's crunch time because there at least there is some movement.
01:36But yeah, there isn't a huge amount of hope yet.
01:37And meanwhile, the European Commission said yesterday they will move ahead with that loan for Ukraine using frozen Russian assets, but they don't have Belgium on board yet.
01:46No, they don't.
01:47They announced yesterday a legal workaround that would help indemnify Belgium against potential risks, major risks that exist for Belgium because 180 billion euro of those Russian frozen assets are here in Belgium.
01:58But the Belgians are saying this isn't good enough and there are still major risks ahead for them.
02:03So I asked Secretary-General of NATO, Mark Rutte, yesterday what he thought should be done with these assets.
02:10We look at Ukraine for next year, if the reparations loan slash defreezing the assets or making the assets mobilized, whatever the exact phrase is we are using.
02:24If that is not happening, then it is absolutely clear that we need to get the money in another way.
02:31And I felt a commitment in the room first to see how far we can get.
02:34But again, that's on the EU side of town, first of all, to get this done.
02:39But there was also a clear understanding that if somehow this is not working out, Ukraine cannot be left alone.
02:45Now, the issue, of course, of frozen assets doesn't normally come up at NATO, but this is very important because the US previously in the 28 point plan for Ukraine has said that it might want to use those assets.
02:54Which is another reason why the EU has come out and said, well, look, we really need to ensure that they stay in Europe.
02:59And that's why they have these legal guarantees. So it's a major, major issue for Europe.
03:03This will be on the table, I imagine, for the next few weeks.
03:05It's going to be huge, particularly at the next European Council meeting in a couple of weeks' time.
03:08There's going to be a showdown, as one source said to me.
03:11A showdown. So stay tuned to your news and to Shona Murray's reporting for that.
03:14Thank you so much for being with us here live on Europe Today, Shona Murray.
03:17But now, coming up, we'll be joined by Roxana Minsatou, the Executive Vice President of the European Commission.
03:26The Romanian socialist politician spent years as Minister for European Funds back home and also had a stint as a member of the European Parliament.
03:34And now her wide portfolio includes social rights, skills, quality jobs and preparedness, where she's trying to keep the social agenda alive.
03:42Commissioner Minsatou, welcome to Europe Today. Great to have you with us.
03:45Pleasure to be here. Good morning.
03:46And you're here, of course, because you have a busy day. You're presenting your plan for quality jobs in Europe.
03:51And unemployment is down here, but of course, quality jobs are scarce. How will you fix this problem?
03:56Yeah, we present Europe's strategy for quality employment. We're looking at three directions.
04:01First, how do we keep jobs in Europe in key industries and how we create new jobs, looking at the green transition and the digital transition.
04:09Second, how we modernise employment, algorithmic management, AI in the workplace.
04:14We really need to do something about that. And third, of course, we need to consider the fairness of jobs, wages, health and safety in the workplace, just to name a few dimensions.
04:25And with factory closures and people having to reskill and upskill, how can you help them with this transition, which is difficult?
04:30We presented even in the spring, our union of skills, our skills, let's say, strategy in Europe, where we propose the skills guarantee for workers.
04:40And now we are starting to pilot it.
04:42It's dedicated to the automotive sector and the supply chain, because we see there a lot of restructuring and a lot of shifts due to several, of course, challenges that the industry is facing.
04:53And we are testing different models. Let's see what the best scenarios will be supporting workers through, of course, skilling, upskilling, reskilling, subsidising the employer in the context in which we might see the worker moving from a certain industry like automotive to another one or from a company to another company or from a branch to another branch.
05:13Mentoring and all these elements together should be a package that would ensure for automotive skilled workers a smooth transition to a better job or to a similar industry.
05:22And what about AI? How will that radically transform the workplace here in the EU?
05:25AI is clearly affecting jobs across the world. Some jobs, for sure, will be transformed or will disappear, and some will be functioning with AI assistance.
05:36Our concern is that where we will have AI as a boss, not only as an assistant, we need to create trustworthy environments and trust for SMEs or for corporations and for workers to use and work with these systems.
05:51And so we are looking to discuss whether we need more regulatory, minimum regulatory frameworks in Europe.
05:58We launched today the first phase consultation for a quality jobs act that will look also at the need.
06:05We will ask social partners, of course, do we need these minimum frameworks to see AI in the workplace as a trustworthy resource in the relation between employer and employee?
06:16But how are you pushing your social agenda and the regulation that you want in a commission, which, of course, is focused on competitiveness?
06:22The EPP, of course, won the elections. They're setting the agenda, not the socialists.
06:25Absolutely, and we work together very closely. I work together with Hena Virkunen, our vice president for technology, very closely.
06:32Because competitiveness is absolutely essential for us to be able to deliver quality jobs.
06:38But we cannot, as Europe, I think, achieve competitiveness if we forego or if we lower the standards on employment.
06:45So we need to do this together, balancing the two.
06:47And with my colleague, of course, on digital and on AI, we're working twofold.
06:53First, to increase the skills of workers across ages, regions, sectors in AI, and this is quite important.
07:01And second, without creating burden, without creating overlaps, because we have the AI Act, we have the GDPR.
07:07We don't want to affect the agility of European industry.
07:10But where we have gaps, we need to see if we need regulations that create minimum protections for workers.
07:17And is Social Europe dead?
07:19No, Social Europe is not dead. Social Europe is the backbone of the European Union.
07:23Without the social fibre, without social cohesion, the EU would have, I think, enormous challenges politically to go ahead.
07:31So it is not only responsible, it is quite existential to continue to invest in how we adapt our social model and how we strengthen it in front of all these changes.
07:42And what about the credibility of the EU institutions?
07:44If you look at this week, a corruption scandal allegedly hitting the EAS, the Foreign Chief Service.
07:50I know you're a former minister in charge of public procurement and funding.
07:54What is your view on all this?
07:55I cannot say that, other than I was shocked because I had met Federica Mogherini a while back.
08:04Of course, I cannot comment on the investigation, but it is important that these investigations will be followed up thoroughly because it's EU money, it's taxpayers' money.
08:14And again, it's the trust in European institutions that needs to be defended.
08:19But absolutely, I was absolutely shocked by the news when it broke out.
08:24OK, Commissioner Minsatou, thank you so much for coming in to us this morning on Europe Today.
08:29You have, of course, a very busy day, so best of luck with that.
08:32And another politician having an intense day is France's President Macron, who's currently on his fourth trip to China.
08:39Amid tensions over Ukraine, the French president is spending three days discussing trade, geopolitics and Ukraine.
08:46For more on his visit, we can now actually cross over to Paris and bring in our correspondent, Sophia Katschenkova.
08:52Good morning, Sophia. Great to have you with us this morning on Europe Today.
08:56Just tell us, why is President Macron in China and what exactly is at stake?
09:00Well, the stakes are high on two fronts, Maeve.
09:07First, Ukraine and second, trade.
09:09On Ukraine, Macron wants China to use its leverage over its closest major partner, Russia,
09:17to try and convince Russian President Vladimir Putin towards a ceasefire in Ukraine.
09:24And this comes just days after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was in Paris.
09:30But the two sides remain far apart on what an end to this conflict should look like,
09:36with, for example, Beijing still supplying major drone components to Russia.
09:42And then when it comes to trade, well, France wants to attract more Chinese investment to Paris, but also to the EU.
09:49And one of the major issues with trade is the trade imbalance.
09:54As a reminder, Europe runs a 300 billion euro trade deficit with China,
09:59driven by ultra-competitive Chinese electric vehicles,
10:03as well as low-cost imports from platforms like Xi'in, Timu and Alibaba.
10:09And at the press conference this Thursday morning,
10:12Macron summed up some of these major trade challenges.
10:15The EU and China have a role to play in laying the foundations for a fair and robust economic governance
10:25based on the rules rather than the law of the strongest.
10:29These imbalances are unsustainable and pose the risk of financial crisis.
10:34They jeopardize our ability to grow together.
10:37We have everything to gain from a better coordination.
10:40So, despite these tensions, Macron and Xi Jinping still signed 12 cooperation agreements
10:52on bilateral investment, nuclear energy, and even panda conservation.
10:57Back to you, Brussels.
10:59So, what does this mean then for France and, of course, the EU,
11:01because he's representing as well, Sophia, the European Union there?
11:04Yes, Maeve, as you said.
11:08So, for France and the EU, this visit is about balancing a relationship
11:12with both a country that they view as a partner, but also a competitor.
11:17It's a more, you know, balanced global economy,
11:20with China consuming more and exporting less,
11:24with the EU still maintaining access to the world's second largest economy.
11:29And from Macron, it's also important to shape a coordinated European approach
11:35ahead of France hosting the G7 summit next year in Evian.
11:40And more broadly, this trip also reflects France's and the EU's attempt to present
11:45a united but not too confrontational front with China.
11:49Back to you, Maeve.
11:50Okay, Sophia Kaskankova, thank you so much for that live update from Paris.
11:55We'll, of course, keep you up to speed on Macron's visit
11:58and any business deals that he clinched.
12:00Keep an eye, of course, on Euronews.com.
12:03But now it is time to talk about the Eurovision Song Contest.
12:06The famous festival is hanging on a thread after the boycott of several countries,
12:11including Spain, one of the five largest contributors to the Eurovision.
12:14They argue that Israel should get the same treatment as Russia,
12:17which was excluded in 2022 after Ukraine's invasion.
12:21Jakob Yanis reports.
12:22Oh, the Eurovision.
12:27One would say it's a celebration of music that unites the whole Europe
12:31and for some reason Australia too.
12:34But your daily reporter has a different take.
12:37To him, it's all about the game of bingo that you play every May with your loved ones.
12:43And us at Euronews, we are one big family.
12:47So why don't we cast some bets?
12:49This year's Eurovision is facing a historic meltdown,
12:58with some countries threatening to boycott the party.
13:01Why, you ask?
13:03You see, there are two reasons.
13:05Allegations of Israel topping last year public vote is one.
13:10And there is also war in Gaza, which Spain argues crosses a red line.
13:16So, here is the grid.
13:18If Israel is not excluded, Spain, Slovenia, Ireland and the Netherlands are out.
13:26But if Israel is excluded, reports say Germany and Austria would be out then.
13:32And as for our friends from Australia, they haven't commented on that yet.
13:37And I mean the country down under, not the host country.
13:40Sounds a bit complex, doesn't it?
13:47The voting happens today and tomorrow in Geneva, where Eurovision bosses will decide the new rules to solve the crisis.
13:55So, go on, take your bingo cards and guess who will be singing this year.
14:00Jakob Janos reporting there for us.
14:07Well, this brings this Thursday's edition of Europe Today to an end.
14:11Thank you so much for tuning in.
14:12For more news in depth, visit euronews.com.
14:15And we'll be back again tomorrow morning,
14:16where we'll be joined by the EU Commissioner responsible for housing and energy, Dan Jorgensen.
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