Europe Today: Ukraina, odszkodowania dla pasażerów za opóźnione loty i uzależnienie od mediów społecznościowych
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00:30One week after the high-stake talks in Geneva to end the war in Ukraine,
00:34top American officials met with a Ukrainian delegation yesterday in Mar-a-Lago.
00:38This as a corruption scandal hit Kiev,
00:41leading to the resignation of President Zelensky's right-hand man, Andrew Yermak.
00:45To break it all down, I'm joined here in the studio by Euronews' Ukraine correspondent, Sasha Vakilina.
00:51Good morning, Sasha. Great to have you with us.
00:53Morning.
00:53So we heard there was some progress in Florida, but still more needs to be done.
00:57What are the sticking points?
00:58The main sticking points have not changed.
01:01And first and foremost, this will be regarding the territorial concessions,
01:04because what we're hearing at this stage is that it's only Ukraine that's being asked to cede any territories
01:08or to accept, to admit and agree to a bigger compromise.
01:12We've heard from Donald Trump himself a week ago,
01:14when he said the concession from Russia is that Russia stops fighting,
01:18but nothing about the territories.
01:19Interestingly, we did see Mark Rubio now in Florida taking a bigger role.
01:23And let's listen to what he had to say about it.
01:26It's not just about the terms that ends fighting.
01:28It's about also the terms that set up Ukraine for long-term prosperity.
01:32I thought we started laying the groundwork for that, most certainly in Geneva.
01:36I think we continue that work in our communications throughout the week.
01:39I think we built on that again today, but there's more work to be done.
01:42This is delicate, it's complicated.
01:43There are a lot of moving parts, and obviously there's another party involved here
01:46that will have to be a part of the equation.
01:49And that will continue later this week when Mr. Woodcock travels to Moscow.
01:53We worked, we already had a successful meeting in Geneva,
01:57and today we continue this success.
02:00So at the moment, this meeting was productive and successful.
02:05On the later stages, hopefully we will keep you updated.
02:09Well, the most productive and indeed the most successful part of that meeting, Maeve,
02:13is the fact that it actually took place,
02:15which means that the diplomatic process continues there.
02:18And indeed, we're seeing them there side by side.
02:20And of course, President Macron will be hosting President Zelensky today in Paris.
02:25What are you looking out for in those meetings?
02:27It's interesting.
02:28This is the situation when Ukraine is trying to somehow balance and join the Europeans.
02:34We might see the repetition of what happened after the Alaska summit
02:36between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin when we saw Zelensky coming to Brussels
02:41and then traveling to Washington with the Europeans
02:43so that they could represent this joint position of the interests of Ukraine,
02:47but also Europe.
02:48Because, of course, in the very first version of the so-called 28-point plan
02:53that was leaked and everybody saw,
02:55the European position was not represented.
02:57And later, some of Europe's most important points were actually incorporated by Kyiv,
03:03and they are now represented by Kyiv.
03:04So they are trying to balance this position to represent all of it together.
03:08And meanwhile, Steve Whitcoff, Trump's envoy, will be heading to Moscow tomorrow.
03:13What do you expect from those talks?
03:14And how do Ukrainians feel about this?
03:15There are going to be interesting meetings taking place in Moscow this week.
03:21China's foreign ministry is all there.
03:24We have official meetings today and tomorrow.
03:27Whitcoff is indeed on his way to Moscow.
03:30He will try to negotiate first with Putin's aide.
03:33That would probably be Ushakov and Kirill Dmitriy.
03:35But also, allegedly, tomorrow he's about to meet with Putin.
03:40Now, what Moscow wants out of it is not only their position to be represented.
03:43What Vladimir Putin wants now, first and foremost, is a one-on-one meeting with Donald Trump.
03:49It is unclear when it's going to happen.
03:50You remember the Budapest summit was cancelled because there were no compromise coming from Moscow.
03:56Now, there are two interesting things here.
03:57On one hand, we do have Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the president of Ukraine, expecting to have a meeting with Donald Trump anytime soon, initially planned by the end of November.
04:06Well, that's gone.
04:07And also, at the same time, there is an expected meeting, very much pushed for by Moscow, for Putin to meet with Trump one-on-one without Zelenskyy.
04:16OK, Sasha Vakalina, thank you so much for all those details.
04:19And for more of Sasha's reporting, you can, of course, take a look at yournews.com.
04:23But staying on that story, coming up, we'll be joined by General Ben Hodges, a former commanding general of the US Army, Europe, and an infantry officer who served in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
04:35Since retirement back in 2018, Ben Hodges has now become a leading analyst and author on European defence and security.
04:43Ben, welcome to Europe Today. It's so lovely to have you with us, General.
04:46Maeve, thank you for the privilege.
04:48Look, how realistic, in your view, are the current efforts to bring Russia and Ukraine to the same table?
04:55Well, I think it's sad for me to say this, but I think Europe and Ukraine, including Ukraine, knows that the United States has a primary interest, which is business with Russia, after this is all concluded.
05:10With the revelations of this past week about what Mr. Whitcoff was doing and Jared Kushner with their Russian colleagues, I think that Europe is slowly waking to the realization that they cannot count on the U.S.
05:25It has to be a fair interlocutor here and that the outcome, if it goes the way that Mr. Whitcoff and Jared Kushner wanted to go with the Russians, it's going to be a massive problem for Europe, because it will be such an unsatisfactory outcome for Ukraine that I think we'll see millions more Ukrainian refugees heading into Central and Western Europe.
05:48So you think President Trump has no empathy here for Ukrainians or what's happening on the ground, but it's purely just business interests?
05:53Absolutely. I will give him credit for being sincere when he says he wants the killing to stop.
06:01The problem is, the administration's approach has always been doomed from the start because they didn't care about the origin, they didn't care about the history or the geography involved, and in fact approached it as a massive real estate deal.
06:17So, I mean, Secretary Rubio, who I really expected much more from him, said in the beginning, Ukraine, you're going to have to give up some territory here, before they even started.
06:28And Secretary Rubio, he's meant to be in Brussels this week for important NATO talks, but he's skipping that meeting. Is that unusual?
06:34It is unusual, but that's part of the problem.
06:38The United States has, under this administration, has made a decision, I think, or prioritization of Western Hemisphere, Indo-Pacific region, probably Middle East, and then Europe is number four.
06:54And I think that despite the best efforts of many European countries to fulfill their responsibilities and to take on more of the responsibilities, the United States really sees Europe as inconsequential, except maybe for some business purposes.
07:12So this is important, and it pains me to say that after being a NATO officer and a U.S. Army officer for all these years, but Ukraine and Europe together are going to have to, and by the way, they do have the capability.
07:25If you add together the industry, the wealth, the populations, the technologies, there's no reason that Europe, including Ukraine, cannot stop Russia.
07:36What they lack is the self-confidence and the political will.
07:38And now we are seeing Ukrainians being pressured into conceding territory, which is, of course, a red line for them.
07:45How do you think this war will end?
07:47Well, the Ukrainians are not going to do this.
07:50I mean, there's no way they can do this, because this is not dirt.
07:54These are people.
07:55There are four million Ukrainians that live in these occupied territories, or the parts of Ukraine that the administration is pressing them to give up.
08:04And anybody that knows anything about Russia knows that this is not going to be the end, that Russia's not going to say, OK, we're good.
08:11We don't want anything else.
08:13Nobody seriously believes that.
08:15And so the Ukrainians, I think, and by the way, one of the false premises of this whole thing is that Ukraine is losing the war.
08:23That's just not the case.
08:24And after 11 years, Russia still only occupies 20 percent of Ukraine with all the advantages.
08:30We see reports every day about Russia's wartime economy is struggling.
08:36Their Great Railroad, which is an essential part of Russia's ability to do what it does, is in deep trouble.
08:44And now some of the oblasts are not even able to pay these famous bonuses to Russian soldiers.
08:50So I think Ukrainians can see that better than we can.
08:55And just briefly, the corruption scandal that's hit President Zelensky's cabinet, is this overshadowing a little bit at the peace talks, or could damage his credibility?
09:03What do you think?
09:04Well, it certainly is getting a lot of attention.
09:06But what's not getting attention is that even in a country that is at war, that they still had their anti-corruption efforts underway.
09:17They launched a raid on Yermak's house, and he's gone.
09:19So I think some other countries in this discussion could follow that example.
09:25And just briefly, we saw President Trump this weekend calling to close the skies over Venezuela.
09:29Do you think another war is looming, or is this just political posturing?
09:33Well, I think they would prefer to be able to, that Maduro would step down, and then the U.S. would gain access to Venezuelan oil and other things.
09:43And there's no other leaders in South America, by the way, that are clamouring to protect Maduro or Venezuela.
09:50But the point is, I think, but the administration has not been entirely clear about what the strategic objectives are.
09:56And this is where the Congress really has to step in.
09:59Okay. General Ben Hodges, thank you so much for speaking to us here on Europe Today.
10:03We'll have you on again very soon.
10:05But now, moving on.
10:07Have you heard about the squabbles here in Brussels between the airline industry, EU capitals, and consumer rights groups
10:13over better protection and compensation for us when we're flying with European airlines?
10:18Ida Sanchez has been taking a look.
10:19There's nothing more tedious than waiting at the airport due to a flight delay.
10:32Or perhaps there is.
10:35The negotiations to reform the EU's passenger rights law, which have been stalled for a decade.
10:41The main sticking point, compensation for delayed flights.
10:45The EU is discussing giving passengers more money when their flight is delayed by three hours or more.
10:53But the airlines are refusing and also want the threshold to be increased from three to five hours.
10:59Airlines say the changes being discussed would increase their costs by 40% every year.
11:06That cost would be passed on to passengers, making flights even more expensive.
11:10But consumer associations think that raising the compensation threshold would see 60% of passengers losing out on compensation.
11:20The situation is so tense that airlines have asked to hold the negotiations.
11:25For now, talks between EU institutions continue.
11:28And fingers crossed, a deal is sealed before the Christmas break here in Europe
11:39when millions of us will be travelling through European airports trying to get home to spend time with family.
11:44As one thing is sure, flight delays can lead to excessive doom scrolling on social media sites.
11:51Our reporter Jakob Janis has been taking a look at how social media addiction is keeping European politicians up at night.
11:58It was the topic over the weekend for many families in Europe.
12:05We are in the middle of a cognitive war, said President Macron, and he wasn't far off.
12:12In China, the version of TikTok for kids shows science experiments and shuts off after a strict 40 minutes.
12:20In Europe, the same app serves up virtual dances and content often described as brain rot.
12:28Now Europe is striking back.
12:32Last week, the European Parliament approved by a large majority a proposal calling for a ban on social media for teens under 16.
12:42The reason?
12:43One in four minors now display smartphone use comparable to addiction.
12:48Is it in the content?
12:50Or is it in its manipulative designs like infinite scrolling and autoplay videos?
12:56Ursula von der Leyen is already taking notes.
13:01She confirmed she's watching Australia, which restricts platforms like TikTok for teenagers, for policy actions.
13:08But will the EU be limiting our online freedoms here?
13:14Well, we already regulate cigarettes to protect our lungs, don't we?
13:18Now we might ban scrolls to protect our minds from avoiding, in Macron's words, a digital wild west.
13:26Because if it is a cognitive war, we cannot afford to lose the next generation to an algorithm.
13:35Right, Alexa?
13:35Absolutely, Alexa.
13:43And that is also why the European Parliament wants to hold tech giants like Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg
13:49personally responsible for violating EU rules on protecting minors online.
13:53More on that story on euronews.com or download our app for more.
13:57But that does conclude Monday's edition of Europe Today.
14:00Thank you so much for tuning in.
14:02We look forward to seeing you again tomorrow morning here on Euronews.
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